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961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? on: September 25, 2017, 03:38:49 AM
Luckily I have never lost any important times just for gambling. Gambling should be played on spare time only with a good time management, only those who are in a deep addiction will not able to manage their time for gambling. Beside we have to limit our money, we also should limit our time for this activity. Otherwise we may face a big problem because of worst time management.
time management sounds like not really a correct term i think , bankroll management has included how to manage your time in gambling. so i would call it as bankroll management , when you stick on it you would know when the right time for you to stop and continue it later. losing important time for the sake of gambling are really not necessary , it's just what an addicts did.
962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 24, 2017, 02:37:19 PM
I don't think gambling is wrong for as long as you don't get addicted to it. Or if you know how to control yourself. Tendency is or most of the time when you gamble and you lose your winning you always crave for more or you want to play more to be able to get back all your losses.

Thats right gambling should be treated in that way that it should be focus for intertainment and just for fun only. We should live a life of moderation avoid gluttony and other vices like gambling in which may forget our friends, work and family.
everyone would say the same way but it's not in line with what they are doing as an action to gamble properly. they are ended up badly and make gambling itself a wrong action. it's an exlcusive entertainment that you would never find it anywhere else. the thrill you'll get are so priceless , but the risk to get addicted also always be the biggest problem.
963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What the games you play as you earn? on: September 24, 2017, 02:21:19 PM
My major focus is on sports betting and in specific tennis is given preference, because here we can make closer predictions about the end result. Other than which I used to play dice spending very small amounts, because it provides with the lowest winning chances.
I was a sports betting fan until the last week where I lost almost 1 bitcoin gambling because of some match fixing allegations I believe were there. I used to love sports but it looks like there is a lot of match fixing going on and it's risky making bets on sports, much better is dice and other forms of gambling where we can actually verify the bet and know we just lost cause of running out of luck not because players literally cheated.
if you do sportsbetting on a very small league or a non-popular league/sports i think yeah it has a very high potential to have a fixing match. but you can always avoid that by take a look to bigger match where almost impossible to get fixed nowadays . it's watched by million sports fans and even a big sports mafia wouldn't dare to take it to be fixed , i've been talked to someone who have involved on something like that in singapore here, they wouldn't targetting popular sports/match at least for now after a lot of things changed lately , that's what i know.
964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: September 24, 2017, 02:09:04 PM
worst mistake in gambling when i put all my remaining balance in a dice game and use the auto roll and boom i lose all my money.
That's worst because you are gambling without proper thinking, if you really want to win you have to give time to analyze your bet or if you want to have fun then always remember to bet only what you can afford to lose. Gambling will surely give you a big problem if you are not careful with your decision making, some people ruin their life and they get it because of their negligence.
useless still ... sometimes when there's no luck on you, even you have done everything like takes time to analyzing etc you would lost for no matter what reason. gambling are completely random made. go yolo indeed feels so good when you win it , just take a look to the worse scenario you gould get on that yolo? really a bad call when you have to do it everytime.
965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin will survive after 100 year ? on: September 24, 2017, 01:58:59 PM

I never thought for 100 years to come. I'm not sure I was there at the time. maybe for the upcoming 5-10 bitcoin will remain popular
yes it is difficult to think about such a long time but still we can expect that it will even cross 100 years of age once it will become a common currency. i think it will just become a common currency for all the people of the world and will be use as for a long long time, because the new generation is also now giving more preference to online shopping and business. therefore we can expect that bitcoin will be a good medium for them.
a lot of things could happened and changes bitcoin future , not even for 100 years . in the next few months bitcoin could go up so high or just die. that's what satoshi himself said. it's depends on how people support bitcoin , once they have no interest to develop bitcoin anymore , i think the end of bitcoin itself really near. wish that wouldn never happen and bitcoin stay longer than what we expected..
966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: September 24, 2017, 01:27:24 PM
In gambling? Oh well jf no more money to bet, you better stop..gambling can be addictive so you have to set a limit for how much money you are willing to gamble or lose. You have to have self discipline otherwise you will lose everything.

But I hope it don't go to that extent since gambling is really a reason to make your money go zero. Better put up a plan or a limitation so you can maintain a good balance and keep your money safe. I think it is better to use faucets so maybe you can avoid using your own money to gamble. It may be a small amount but I think it will be good and safe than using your balance.
if you could do like when win big , cash them out and stay away from gambling after that , then better to do it. as no matter how skillful you are in managing bankroll , in the long run it could be a mission impossible. your money would get disappeared slowly, believe me i have tried it a lot of times and it's just give you a frustation. stop it as soon as you think you have got a lot from what you have it get started.
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: September 24, 2017, 01:04:27 PM
If you want to play smart of course, play with profits, and you can save your bankroll to play the other day, therefore you will be disciplined and not throw your money in a short time.
 
This is the best thing to do and i like that way because i get get out in gambling nowadays once i enter and play when i won i play it again its kinda i felt crazy and greedy to earn much more than what i have and including my bankroll to roll it up.
for me there's no way you can gamble smartly. all you can do are to avoid gambling as soon as possible as the smartest action. especially when you looking for profit and keep gamble the amount that you have won? that would never be a good ending for sure. you would receive more and more problem , get addicted and there no easy way to get out of it.
968  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTS BOOK RANKINGS ~ COMPLETELY USER GENERATED on: September 22, 2017, 01:22:34 AM
Thank you SamsungBitcoin and follow_clear for your votes and explanations behind each vote. It definitely took me a while to make all the updates, but that's exactly what we need to help new users choosing their bookies.

@follow_clear I couldn't find x-bet.com, so I used x-bet.c that is a bookie and accepts bitcoins. Also I wasn't sure if you were refering to Beteast.eu or beteast.co.uk, but since only beteast.eu uses bitcoin I used that one. If I made any mistakes here, please let me know, so I can correct the leaderboard.

All rankings have been updated until this post.
Than you.

I have revisited sites and yeah I made a mistake in my post so it should have been beteast.eu and x-bet.co

Thank you for creating this thread!
would you try sportsbet.io next time? it's interesting to see someone make a vouch / review on a lot of sportsbooks at once. and it's sounds legit to me , yeah your short review could be helpful for other people who looking for reference around here. and oh there's a sportsbook called onehash too which claimed as a mutual betting, you might would give it a shot? . goodluck to you by the way.

I've just used their mobile bet bonus for 20 mbtc, the website is nice
Withdrawal is automatic
Though, the problem is they can't be trusted with big deposits

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1863248.msg18527694#msg18527694

I'd give them a 4, but because of the unresolved scam accusations I'll go with 2.5
it's a nice website and improved slightly not like when the interface web design lagged previously. but still the odds really poor, they also have got several accusations . some got resolved and the rest just stalled. i don't really want give them a rating more than 2 out of 5. so yeah i personally give them 2.0 . deposit and withdrawal are a sensitive things.
969  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is A Big Threat According To China on: September 22, 2017, 01:14:08 AM
Bitcoin is meant to disrupt the many traditional institutions works as it can be carrying innovations leading to changes in the way we usually do things. This can be the big factor why central banks and many government authorities are all wary of how to treat Bitcoin. In the case of China, they the easiest way out which is the banning of Bitcoin exchanges and ICOs to curtail participation from their "protected" citizens. Soon they may come up with regulation making ownership of Bitcoin illegal...that is if they are not just buying time before allowing Bitcoin operation under a very strict atmosphere.

China's central bank admits Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies can be carrying threats to central banks and existing banking systems. And this is actually just stating the obvious as the Chinese government is afraid of anything they can not control. This is a society where controls in almost all facets of their lives remain to be strong...though we are hoping that next generation of Chinese leaders would be gradually changing this kind of situation.

Nevertheless, this may not be the right time for China to have a good love affair with Bitcoin but I know that sometime China will be back loving Bitcoin too.



Sounds more like China plans to launch their own digital cryptocurrency that they can control.
I don't see their government (or any really) loving Bitcoin whatsoever.
lol yeah since first time they are planning to launch their own version of cryptocurrency and with ban bitcoin they hope could force chinese bitcoin user (citizen) to switch it to their own crypto and maybe to attract other people outside china too. idk what exactly would happened , but for me it's a crystal clear that they have something surprising to launched sooner or later.
970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is cloudbet legit? on: September 22, 2017, 01:04:12 AM
Cloudbet is legit enough imo, i've withdrawn a total of ~.2 btc from the site all transactions were instant. People are mostly complaining on the ann thread because there are times that the live support of cloudbet is offline.
which it's show how poor their customer service , they are indeed paying us but with such that service it's really not worth for the high roller playing there. i have been playing there too , they are almost processed our withdrawal instantly within a minutes at least for a small amount like 3 to 5 btc (i have tried it). just take the risk that they have been accused scamming due lack of customer service. i just can't imagine when your huge funds held on random online casino for weeks.
971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Cash is better than Bitcoin. on: September 21, 2017, 05:03:21 PM
like Venezuela!

Show me, how BTC is used there for food shopping, seems it exist not.
Well actually there are some places/countries that do accept Bitcoin as payments to thier everyday lives. There are places in Philippines that do accept Bitcoin payments on clothings and food etc.
All tho Cash is realy better than Bitcoin, but they do have some pros and cons when it comes to day for day lives.
it's still in limited places , there's a lot of merchants accept bitcoin in netherelands by the way and that's paradise for those people who looking for spend it in daily basis. i would go there someday i wish. or even simply if in my place there a lot of store available to accept bitcoin i would so grateful and feel more than happy to use it. cash should be considered as an outdated currency  Tongue .
972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 21, 2017, 04:52:31 PM
Gambling seems far from helpful to me. Because when i gamble more appear to be a greedy who then just throw away money i've earned from working hard. Maybe only occasionally gambling help me in an emergency, the rest even destroyed by greedy self-error.
if you think you have a problem with gambling then you should looking for an exit way asap , as the more often you see people around gamble you would attracted to join again . you could have a lot more problem if you force yourself to gamble without any prevention step. i personally can't really consider gambling could help anyone's life, it has too much bad effect .
i do no think that it is so easy to quit gambling specially if you have become addicted to it, as i a personally have seen so many people who are addicted to gambling and they are tried their best for so many time to stop gambling, but they could not succeeded and they only quit gambling for few months and start playing gambling again.
indeed it's the biggest challenge for you to being responsible. get into gambling has a big risk to become an addict and you should know how to deal with it. and there's nothing you can rely on since gambling mostly considered as a destructive hobby rather than a helpful one. that's the fact based on a lot of people vouch. i would say the same way.
973  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are bitcoins only for the educated and knowledgeable people only? on: September 21, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
Bitcoins are for everyone, that was the vision of Satoshi. However it is kind of complicated to use for the average John and Jane Doe. No doubt about that.
Bitcoin is for every one whether he is educated or not the only thing matter is that how you can manage if you have no qualification but have skill to read market and then have investment amount, it’s just game of time and game of patience one who is more closer to market will earn more and trade more and one can enjoy the shower of profit over him.
if we are talking about bitcoin as an investment then that's true it's for anyone who just want it. but when it comes to develop bitcoin it's requires tech and economics knowledge which means it's for the tech savvy. but in general i would say that yeah gambling are made for anyone without any exception. at the beginning a newcomer would wondering how they could get started but as time goes by they would understand about the concept of cryptocurrency itself.
974  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble,boredom,loneliness, grief or lose on: September 21, 2017, 04:22:57 PM
No i never did that in past if i am sad it would mean i will always think about that incident even while gambling and won't be able to control myself and finally will become more sad because i lost the money we should always gamble with a clear mind and should have all the time otherwise we will lose
yeah basically when you are in the bad situation and decide to release all of the bad things through gambling i think it would only make things getting worse. not a good idea at all , it might help you but only temporary . it's just fulfil your lust for a moment. escape yourself from any problem to a better way , gambling aren't really an answer for sure.
you are going to create another problem if you will make this activity as an escape way to your issue, as we know that gambling is really addicting,
people who's involved to much with gambling already suffering with their addiction so better to divert your worries and other problem with some
healthy ways like sports activities or mental challenges.
that's what i mean lol, just look at another hobby. it might help you to distract from your bad gambling habit. no matter for whatever reason you are gambling in the end it's just give you a crazy day , if you get bored just call your friends , hangout somewhere far away from gambling stuff and enjoy your beautiful life. don't waste it only on gambling.
975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: September 20, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
I set a limit for myself which I can afford to lose painlessly for one game. This allows me not to lose thoughtless money and enjoy the game. I'm not nervous because of the limit.
Good thing you know how to limit yourself, there are some people that are not thinking with their bank roll, they just want to win but the truth is, they cannot make it, they need more luck to win in the game, some people are too boastful when they said that they can get back their loses which is not. We need to set up limits to ourselves to less out loses.

Boastful people and gamble never get success in gambling. They always show off their winning and in the end when they never get winning then try to win hardly and in this way, they waste their money and nothing in their hand, i can all them addicted boastful gambler. But limitation is necessary in gambling, if we have decided limited money for gambling, then we never become addicted even we have lost in gambling.

Yes indeed mate. If you're a show off and too aggressive person well you'll probably ended up bankrupt in gambling. Setting your mood and discipline yourself on spending your money will at least help you out to avoid losing all your money. Once you already have these behavior definitely your good to play in gambling.
setting up limit means you need to have have a bankroll management , and it wasn't something that you could be done perfectly in short time. you might would break it for once , twice or even several times! no problem that's normal , you just need to learn more . and do it more often . as time goes by you might get used to it and gambling wouldn't be a big deal anymore for you.
976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do some government ban bitcoin? on: September 20, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
Governments see danger to their system in bitcoin. We can call bitcoin as wild currency and decentralized, so, money simply passing through the government services without staying in that. They say us that they ban bitcoin for our safety, but in fact they ban it more for they own, cause of bitcoin has finely gave us  that financial freedom and self business that we couldn't get from the government.
it could be one of many reasons, but i can see that only china recently so anxiety, they afraid their investor go out from local business looking for bitcoin benefit. and it's make them really worry, the simple step are by ban them with various false reasons behind. other than that some countries just not yet ready adopting an advanced technology like bitcoin i think.
977  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 20, 2017, 09:54:13 PM
It's totally wrong if you mess it up, losing losing and losing, borrow there, borrow here and keep deep down in the big "debt" you left behind. So my advise for you is the more soon you awake the more small " mess" you make. Stay away from it. Only "gambling blood" people lost many in gambling, cause the rest already stayed away from it from the moment they lost. So bet is fun but losing a bet isn't.
actually when you didn't have any intention to make money in any kind -EV games , but only want to having fun there i don't think it's wrong at all. those poeple who become broke with a lot of debts are the one who can't be responsible . they might promised to themselves won't get addicted but they did it anyway. when you think you can't deal with loss , better leave it.
978  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: September 20, 2017, 09:42:56 PM
Bitcoin price trends will continue to rise at least for the next few years, I plan on continuing to buy bitcoins and store them in vault so it's safer. I'm sure next year bitcoin prices will reach $ 10,000.
future investment , bitcoin really promising you a very good way to grow your money instead keep it as savings and reduced value by inflation. i do the same as you since long time ago to lock my bitcoin somewhere. if i could i would pretend to forget it and found it later after 10 or 20 years where the value would make you astonished.
979  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTS BOOK RANKINGS ~ COMPLETELY USER GENERATED on: September 20, 2017, 09:17:26 PM
Thank you SamsungBitcoin and follow_clear for your votes and explanations behind each vote. It definitely took me a while to make all the updates, but that's exactly what we need to help new users choosing their bookies.

@follow_clear I couldn't find x-bet.com, so I used x-bet.c that is a bookie and accepts bitcoins. Also I wasn't sure if you were refering to Beteast.eu or beteast.co.uk, but since only beteast.eu uses bitcoin I used that one. If I made any mistakes here, please let me know, so I can correct the leaderboard.

All rankings have been updated until this post.
Than you.

I have revisited sites and yeah I made a mistake in my post so it should have been beteast.eu and x-bet.co

Thank you for creating this thread!
would you try sportsbet.io next time? it's interesting to see someone make a vouch / review on a lot of sportsbooks at once. and it's sounds legit to me , yeah your short review could be helpful for other people who looking for reference around here. and oh there's a sportsbook called onehash too which claimed as a mutual betting, you might would give it a shot? . goodluck to you by the way.
980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 20, 2017, 09:07:34 PM
Gambling seems far from helpful to me. Because when i gamble more appear to be a greedy who then just throw away money i've earned from working hard. Maybe only occasionally gambling help me in an emergency, the rest even destroyed by greedy self-error.
if you think you have a problem with gambling then you should looking for an exit way asap , as the more often you see people around gamble you would attracted to join again . you could have a lot more problem if you force yourself to gamble without any prevention step. i personally can't really consider gambling could help anyone's life, it has too much bad effect .
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