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981  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has entered Wall street officially? on: July 13, 2015, 08:07:28 PM
Well some wallstreet and early speculators are investing right now.

Maybe not the whales, but there are always ants in the trading floor that like to try out all new stuff.

Now they are probably not trading it on the stock exchange, but they opened already an account at bitfinex or coinbase

So many "ex" wallstreet traders came to trade bitcoin instead, is the right way to put it

982  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: July 13, 2015, 08:04:05 PM
Now i became a full-time trader at yobit, hard way, but i done it.  These altcoins man are very nice Smiley
983  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as a Retirement Account on: July 13, 2015, 08:03:11 PM
hmm nice idea , i will do that soon.
spare some income every month to bitcoin and keep that for couple years.
maybe it will worth alot in the future , or that will great legacy to my sons  Grin
but that can happen if bitcoin still worth in the future.

I have a gut feeling that bitcoin will be worth 10x, 30x more than what it is today, and that day isn't that far. Just a couple years down the line, let's say 10 years and bitcoin's price will be 10x considering things are developing and rising exactly how they are in today's pace.

Comparing bitcoin to the current gdp, assuming things go our way and people put their savings money down and invest unto thr bitcoin venture, the value of a single bitcoin can rise upto 1 million dollars. Considering people put down money more than just their savings,nthe value can shoot even much more. However, thats just an assumption/theory and a dream.

yes, but this is a dream which might actually come true. Recent adoption and support bitcoin has supported is gradually going higher than vice versa, it is receiving fair attention from people. The Greek economic collapse made people realize how dangerous centralized currency can be, and how banks can screw its customers at their worst times. Bitcoin is a suitable alternative, if not a replacement.

Its still ongoing, and this was just the beginning, it will be far worse from 6 months now.

Nothing has been resolved, and the problems, as usual, are only postponed until they become twice bigger.

This banking system will collapse, and it will take the pension with it, bitcoin pension would be a smart idea to do now, until you got any savings left.
984  Economy / Economics / Re: "Deflation" in Europe is actually Inflation in disguise on: July 13, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
Well the ECB doesn't have to print a single more eurocent for us to see Hyperinflation.

The inflation is already here, it's just that it's contained in these enourmous derivative bubbles:  1.6 quadrillion $ , that will see it's fair share in the European Union aswell.

When the hot potato gets bassed back and forth between the banks, and the bubble starts to pop, i bet everyone will start buying hard assets, so the big bubble will split into smaller bubbles.

Just imagine some whale buying up all farmlands, it will definitely rise food prices, as he expects to recover his investment by increasing food price, and since he has alot of farmland, his food price increase will increase it all over the region.

But inflation will trickle down in many other ways aswell: Stock market cashout, broker account cashout, and aquiring various other hard assets.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DUB] DUB [FULL REBRAND][BITTREX][YOBIT][MUSIC STREAMING] on: July 13, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Alright folks, this time we go to 1000 satoshi, nobody sells until 1000!

This coin is awesome, i`d like it to see it be in the top 50 altcoins Smiley

Time to buy some!
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DUB] ****DUBSTEP**** [FULL POS][BITTREX][YOBIT][MULTY TRADE WALLET] on: July 13, 2015, 06:40:14 PM

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT


We are near the end of the first phase, related to cryptoworld. The team discussed about the future of the coin, after few meetings we decided to completely change the appearance of DUBSTEP, without changing its purpose. From today, we announce DUBSTEP REBRAND.

PLEASE WELCOME DUB COIN

DUB coin is totally new, and it's not only Dubstep. It will embrace any kind of music. DUB encourages independent artists to create, record and share their music. DUB will let you manage your own events, live concerts and streams, thanks to our next generation wallet.
To demonstrate the potential of DUB, we will release the first audio streaming wallet ever next week, with all-new renovated look.
To complete the cryptoworld phase, we are releasing a new wallet with built-in Twitter tomorrow. It has the old graphics because it was compiled before the announcement.
Thanks everyone to support us. Stay tuned, more big news are coming.

Alright, i love to see an active Dev with strong development. After some analysis and thinking I decided that I`m going to buy a lot of DUB right now, I`m planning to buy up 5% of the market cap in the upcoming days, so stay tuned for a big pump soon.

If you will see the market go up then no doubt that that will be my work Smiley

I hope to see this coin with a market cap of at least 100.000$ soon thus it would be a great investment.
987  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you guess about he future of bitcoin? on: July 08, 2015, 10:32:21 AM

professional traders can actually raise the price without buying anything, just by creating fake wall, it is much more than feasible

i see it plenty of times in the altcoin section, especially in the doge era

Haha but that is for some crappy coin with dust price, its easy to manipulate that market.

But for bitcoin to create a fake wall you need tens of thousands of dollars.

I`m sure no trader would risk that much for some small income
988  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: July 08, 2015, 10:30:07 AM
think this is all just wasting time by clicking captcha. The payment is better signature campaign rather than faucet.
I know this, but i had some free time on a work place.

Altough you got some free times it will be always wasting time because the time you spend and the payout you earn is not good enough. The payout from faucet is too low and the time you spend is too much. With that much of time you can earn more by doing signature campaign or trading

for people who have a job and have a monthly salary, I think they do not need to play a faucet. because I think faucet only to persons unemployed and has no income certainly does not have the expertise or anything. Because of their passion for making money is very high, even if the results are not great, they will do it

But if he got nothing to do in his office I think its ok to play faucet but since the payout is low I dont suggest to do it. Unemployed person that has no real income sure wont get through this faucet too. I think unemployed person sometimes smarter than employee because they can see everything clearly but employee only know how to earn money by work and work, they are too passive in their way to earning money

Well maybe in africa or south asia, but faucets pay too little.

I think the sig campaign is the best bet where people can earn a decent income to atleast buy food.

Other than that they need other incomes aswell.
989  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has entered Wall street officially? on: July 08, 2015, 10:27:48 AM
It was a hype, its not coming to wall street officially. They have their own market called medici!

We shall see that, banks are greedy, so greedy that they can change their principles anytime.

If bitcoin becomes too appealing that banksters cant resist, then they will come in our boat aswell.

They just cant resist the urge for money Cheesy
990  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Debit Cards: A Real Alternative? on: July 08, 2015, 10:24:29 AM

I have 1 question about these bitcoin debit cards? Do they work with all ATM's or the banks have to uppgrade the ATM's software in order to read BTC. I`m sure ATM's, whatever software they use, dont even have the 'BTC' character implemented in their software.
So i`m sure the banks have to do work too to implement this feature.


It's pretty simple. Your BTC debit card provider (ie XAPO, Bit-x, Bitstamp etc) keeps your BTC funds and converts to fiat whenever you want to use the card, therefore you're paying with fiat (but it comes from your BTC deposit). So yes, it works like a regular card and you can pay pretty much everywhere.

Yep well in that case it is an alternative.

They already start to ban cash in europe, and impose legislation to force cards to be used in shopping.

If we are clever, then instead of using globalist controlled cards, lets just use XAPO or other bitcoin based cards, that would make the globalists very angry Smiley
991  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as a Retirement Account on: July 08, 2015, 10:22:41 AM
hmm nice idea , i will do that soon.
spare some income every month to bitcoin and keep that for couple years.
maybe it will worth alot in the future , or that will great legacy to my sons  Grin
but that can happen if bitcoin still worth in the future.

I have a gut feeling that bitcoin will be worth 10x, 30x more than what it is today, and that day isn't that far. Just a couple years down the line, let's say 10 years and bitcoin's price will be 10x considering things are developing and rising exactly how they are in today's pace.

Comparing bitcoin to the current gdp, assuming things go our way and people put their savings money down and invest unto thr bitcoin venture, the value of a single bitcoin can rise upto 1 million dollars. Considering people put down money more than just their savings,nthe value can shoot even much more. However, thats just an assumption/theory and a dream.

Yea but also consider that about 60-70% of the world GDP is fake counterfeited money.

The assets are there no doubt, but their denominator is a fake toilet paper fiat which can be printed anytime.

So if the GDP shrinks to half, that would reflect reality better
992  Economy / Speculation / Re: What does it take for Bitcoin to go 100X? on: July 08, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
It mainly takes time & patience.

It will happen eventually, just do what you always have been doing (if you are very creative then find new ways of improving bitcoin), and then just sit back and wait until the price reached 1 million $.

Mostly takes patience rather then time. I dont know if will see this in our life time


A doubling each year for about 7 years, or a doubling each half year for 3 1/2 years.




I`m not sure if we will see doubling each year. But we can see quadruple this year because of the problems in europe.

After that who knows, the world economy is not very shiny. People want a safe currency like BITCOIN
993  Other / Archival / Re: Best bitcoin faucets? on: July 08, 2015, 10:19:25 AM
Hi Everyone!

I would like to tell you a site where are gathered a lot of faucets that pay well enough.
It's a bit rough but the idea is to collect the best faucets, so you have consistent earnings without losing too much time. There are about 50 faucets now.

Currently the average prize for each faucet is about 900 Satoshi. Shocked

You can visit it and tell me what you think, I will thank you very much.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Looks good , i like the design, i will visit it often.

I like the digital font style it looks modern.
994  Economy / Economics / Re: "Deflation" in Europe is actually Inflation in disguise on: July 08, 2015, 10:16:39 AM


italy is not in a good situation, but their unemployment rate fell in comparison with 2014(only 0.6% but it's still something), i'm not so sure that it will end like greece, time will tell

Trust me it will, Italy is the next in the line of falling dominoes.

Italy has not good unemployment, all italian companies go offshore and send companies to south asia or east europe.

The only people left there are the legacy workers and the big boys.

If they start freezing assets there too, then the big boys with their stash of money will lose it all like in greece.
995  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 08, 2015, 10:14:13 AM
With bitcoin you know for a fact, that there will be only 20999999.9769 bitcoins out there (maximum global supply ever), not a single bit more Smiley

I guess it would take only a few minutes to change that condition (at least, there is a possibility of doing just that). You can't do that with gold by any means, no matter what you try, that is, increase the amount of gold by some arbitrary decision...

Even if you get consensus over that

Agree with the above, all it takes is for the devs to change their mind and a few key strokes later its BTC to infinity.  Gold was made in the center of a supernova, wont be any time soon that happens again here on earth in a cost effective way.

@ Realbitcoin, what if one or a few of these big BTC holders suddenly decide to cash out their stash, still the top 1% hold the majority of the wealth just like the dreaded fiat, they could easily manipulate the market at will -

BITCOIN TOP-500: 1-50 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0)

1.  BTC 980,000*. Satoshi Nakamoto
2.  BTC 400,000*. HD Moore (AHA)
3.  BTC 400,000*. Dustin D. Trammell (AHA)
4.  BTC 400,000*. Tod Beardsley (AHA)
5.  BTC 350,000*. "Dread Pirate Roberts" a.k.a. "DPR"
6.  BTC 300,000.  Roger Ver
7.  BTC 300,000*. "knightmb"
8.  BTC 200,000. Mark Karpeles
8.5  BTC 182,592. "Loaded"
9.  BTC 174,000*. FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation, USA)
10.  BTC 119,000. AsicMiner Management Team of 3 (names?)
11.  BTC 110,000. Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss
12.  BTC 100,000. "klaus"
13.  BTC 100,000. "mezzomix"
14.  BTC 75,000. "artforz"
15.  BTC 70,000. Erik Voorhees
17.  BTC 30,000. "nakowa"
18.  BTC 30,000. Mircea Popescu
19.  BTC 30,000. "Goat"
20.  BTC 25,000. Chamath Palihapitiya
21.  BTC 25,000. Gavin Andresen
22.  BTC 20,000. Max Keiser
23.  BTC 20,000. "Theymos"



I think satoshi burned his coins already. And i also think the FBI already auctioned those coins isnt it?

So we are only left with a few whales, who would not cashout. Why? Why would they? Everyone expects bitcoin to go to the moon.
996  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's talk about how hot Asian girls are. [NSFW] on: July 08, 2015, 10:11:19 AM


Am I dead? 'Cause it looks like heaven!  Cheesy

Pussy paradise, i want to go there guys Cheesy
997  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: July 08, 2015, 10:09:33 AM
Well yes, the sig campaign is the easiest but its not the most profitable.

There are guys here that do p2p trading items, buy low sell high, they definitely make good bucks. Also p2p lending is very profitable.

There are many ways....
I think the signature campaign is very beneficial, because you do not need to spend capital and only put out of mind, and a little time. but back to your selection

Yes signature comapign is very beneficial and trading is also very beneficial if you have a reliable trader..Smiley

I`m making 0.01 bitcoin /day, so yes its beneficial but i dont write alot of posts.

Best campaigns pay 0.15/week.
998  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 08, 2015, 10:07:13 AM
Actually i meant stocks of bitcoin companies, not brokers who accept bitcoin deposits.

Stocks like Coinbase, Xapo, and stuffs like that.

Many bitcoin or blockchain based companies popped out of nowhere. Some stocks are worth like 15 cents now, if you buy and hold you might get rich quick from it since these are the future technology
999  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: July 08, 2015, 10:02:25 AM
Alright but 4000 bitcoin is at the current price.

If it goes just to 10.000$ which is higly probable then you will only need 100 pieces.

Simple as that.
1000  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: July 08, 2015, 10:01:13 AM
Bitcoin is moving sideways till 2016, then price will go up again!  Smiley

What do you mean it already gained 30€ in price due to greece. And it hasnt even started yet.

Just wait to see next month, i think bitcoin by august will reach 300 possibly 350 €
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