Bit Fury's actually offering test chips for dev's and those with test facilities, as for reasons I forget now, he is unable to test certain aspects himself.
It's to satisfy the terms of a bet that requires independent corroboration. |
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Sorry, I'm confused now. Who needs to send the extra BTC?
Anyone with shares of the 3rd unit, which includes you. By the time pidobir had got all the btc (mainly due to one user sending without a transaction fee) the price had gone up due to them being priced in $ and the BTC value falling, he kindly paid the difference so we could get the order in. |
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The easy solution to make somebody else overtake board design and convert most of the pre-orders to chip sales seems probably very appealing to BFL right now.
Funnily enough in the very first post in this forum saying they were selling chips, I said something like "Maybe it's a cunning ploy to get BKK to design a board that actually works" They could come up with a motivation instrument for pre-order costumers. For example chip discount. That could make the magic happen, giving the fact those costumers are still interested in mining by not getting refunded already
Please note, that most of this is only my wild speculation.
Possibly, my own speculation given their history is that they saw the huge amount of avalon chip orders and thought it was an easy to way to raise large amounts of needed cash. Unforunately for them I don't think either of these options is going to happen, they've been telling too many lies for too long for large numbers of people to spend anything with them. BFL's window is closing. Anyway, good luck with the group buy |
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They can't handle the board manufacturing and that's where community can take over and profit. That is a business opportunity to me.
I thought it was more board design problems than getting them made, but dont want to troll so... Almost all of the talk in burnin and bkk's threads is over my head but they seem like very smart people, who I would have confidence in to get them working and in production fairly quickly. That presents the problem, avalon can sell chips because they aren't making any more hardware. If BFL release all the details needed and the guys above get a board working it would surely decimate BFL's order queue. So what is their reasoning ? It seems the 65 nm chips are generating a lot more heat, than BFL expected. Where being unable to put 8pcs of 4 GH/s chips on few square inch board may discard some cute-black-box designs, for most of BTC miners the size of the board is not as crucial. (Remember GPU rigs?) They are not to keep on the desk anyways.
I concur, they seem to be spending more time and money trying to get them into cases because they already bought them instead of just saying. Look we messed up, power and heat is more than we expected so now the board is 2/3/4 times as big and it needs a new case, or comes with 2 pieces of plywood to mount it on. Whilst looking nice is good I suspect most people would sacrifice that to get it quicker |
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Come on, don't support these assholes  Chips Ordered: 0 Nobody is  |
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There is more to it than that. Everything about my order says that it is one of the 1-500 Jupiter units, but the pre-order number does not reflect my order within the first 500.
So you pre-ordered and got an email that said Order ID: 17xx The desired goods: KNC Bitcoin miner numbers 1-500 Quantity: 1 Name of the customer: wowc8 ... ? If so, I agree how can there be 17xx pre-orders for the first 500 Probably best to email knc to ask them, I think we are all just making it more confusing (I have an sub #500 number so not affected, but curious) |
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It certainly is messy and I think having pre-orders like #17xx is confusing people, and I can't see how a 1-500 could have one that high.
From what I've read, they said they would match up pre-orders with email addresses so you retain your place in the queue
The pre-order number is the highest you will be, any numbers below you that don't pay within 7 days move you up
So
If you have pre-order #100 and 50 people above you don't pay you move to #50
If you have pre-order #1700 and 500 people above you don't pay you move to #1200
If you haven't pre-ordered, then you go to the end of the queue, so if there are 1000 paid pre-orders paid you are #1001
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Yeah I'm sub 200 pre-order and +1000 order (paid). I guess we'll see in the next few days once pre-order's expire.
I sent an email to Sam at KnCMiner a day ago and still haven't heard back. It would be really nice to find this information out. If my pre-order number is my place in line, then I am very confused because I ordered a 1-500 Jupiter. How can I be the 17## place in line for 500 units, unless they are over-selling like crazy! Seems that it goes both ways since your pre-order number is sub 200, but your order number is +1000. Makes me very nervous to make a $7000+ payment when the order number and the pre-order numbers don't make sense! The order numbers being generated now are new. Once the 7 day window has expired for people to purchase the 1-500 pre-orders then the queue will be sorted so you retain your original position So if your pre-order is #200 that's the highest it will be, if people with lower numbers don't order you will move up the list |
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An alternative could be to enter BTC address(es), and then just add to them the 'unpaid' balances from pools
... Try this... use one of the pool slots and enter this: Pool API URL: http://blockchain.info/address/1KeBs4HBQzkdHC2ou3gpyGHqcL7aKzwTve?format=jsonUnpaid amount JSON key: json.final_balance/100000000 (Obviously, use your own address in URL.) This should pick a balance for BTC address from blockhain and add it to balances from other pools, but if people need to monitor more addresses I should consider adding more pool slots. Works perfectly, thank you Donation sent ! |
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I've given up worrying about the website it's always buggy, my daily payouts are at the expected amount for my hashrate and have been this way for months, which is the only thing that matters.
How do you withdraw the payment without the site working properly.? (unless you have set regular payout which is still not accurate) I set up 24 regular payouts so 00:00 01:00 02:00 etc equal to the amount I should get each day, normally arrives around 8am, if it doesn't I know there is a problem |
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I've given up worrying about the website it's always buggy, my daily payouts are at the expected amount for my hashrate and have been this way for months, which is the only thing that matters. |
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I find that I frequently have to change the 'correction' box as I receive BTC from sources other than the usual pools (alt coins), exchanges plus I might be buying and selling things
An alternative could be to enter BTC address(es), and then just add to them the 'unpaid' balances from pools
IE.
Wallet Contains 10
BTCGuilld Unpaid 0.5
Widget shows 10.5
If I then buy something for 5 out of the wallet it changes to 5.5
This way it always shows your net assets.
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Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...
You can see that on their site and the block chain. It didn't go to Like Jrs charity, they paid Lukey for modifynig his software so that their miners will work. Out of charity money?! I've seen people do that before, he may well be owed money, but he shouldn't be treated as a charity, nor should he let himself be taken advantage of like that, and that is definitely 100% NOT a charity payment!!!More charity donations imminent to chip manufacturers, board makers and costa rican travel agents. |
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It's shocking that a few still haven't received their batch #1, and there is also a user who's machine arrived broken who despite initial promises from avalon still hasn't heard anything about a replacement
I get these are technical guys who don't want to deal with all the customer service but why the hell don't they just hire someone to process emails and support tickets, they'd be happy and customers would be happy, it's not like they can't afford it.
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Un-believeable!
Really ? I'm not in the least bit surprised |
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maybe theres not as much demand in the UK as i thought....
It's not your price/profit, or the p&p that's the problem The demand for these is now very low, people with lots of BTC or who wanted the latest gadget have already bought. The rest (and they are the majority) only buy if it makes economic sense to do so, and these are the worst ROI of anything else on the market. |
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Presuming things go as they planned, there won't be a huge time difference between the 1-500 orders and the rest.
It won't be the Avalon model with a large time gap between batches, and it won't be the bfl model of a few at a time, it should be a constant stream of large deliveries.
You could even say that the more pre-orders they get the better they can adapt their processes to deliver more and faster.
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Well it's been over 48 hours, several people have tried starting group buys but as far as I can see not a SINGLE person has commited to SINGLE chip. A few who did show interest would only do so if payment was on delivery and nothing up front. Sanity prevails on bitcointalk |
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To clarify, I'm going to sell COMPLETED units to people when I get them made. I have ordered 592 chips in a group buy and am using them to buy and sell completed, ready to use, boards.
If they are anywhere around the $50 / 0.5BTC mark, I predict your entire batch of 592 chips will be gone in seconds. |
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Is this a cunning plan to get BKK to design a board that works |
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