That's a very shitty thing to do (and particularly stupid given ck is a moderator AND the author of the software you are stealing), delete this thread and ban his ass from the forums.

2 more sold, 7 remaining.

What was it Zvi, has bitcoinhookers.com gone live ?

The website still says 10 as mimimum order.

If you received a PM telling you that it's possible to order 1, be very sure that it actually came from X-Hash. Scammers will often choose a very similar forum name in an attempt to trick you.

Well before you get back the BTC1.6 without a doubt.

Selling cloud mining is a way to raise money for the next generation equipment. This wouldn't be so bad if you stood a chance of making a profit as well out of the deal but the chances are slim, and that new equipment will be deployed by them before you have access to it, raising the difficulty and further eroding your returns from the current offering.

ALL manufacturers are ripping off buyers, the only way the equation will start to balance so that BOTH parties make something is when people stop paying these inflated prices.

Thanks, I had actually seen your post when it first went up and thought about it

I guessed you were in Europe and figured the postage cost would be too high to be worth sending an antminer, but if any are left I'll contact you and see what we can work out, it's a great idea and I wish you luck too.

5 more sold, 9 remaining.

Is there a problem with the original PSU that means an upgrade is advisable

Can you clarify which PSU you get with the hosted option (It's the same price as upgraded one, but lists the same 1100w one in the description)

On the same day bitmain announce 1TH cloud mining for $772 + $3.24 per day maintenance ($1,345 for 6 months, no expiry but probably won't be viable much longer anyway, and this is probably a -ROI deal)

Good timing KNC

That price is getting tempting, but for me with high power rates they aren't really economical to run and if diff increases 45% from where we are now they cost more to run than they make and it isn't going to be long until the diff is that high so almost certainly a losing proposition.

Are there any plans to offer tubes/chips/new machines undervolted in the same way as Bitmain did with the S2 as this would give a much longer lifespan or is this the best w/GH that the chips can do ?

Maybe UK people are getting smarter

Not a dig at the OP btw, his offer was very good, the current batch now come pre-assembled, so only needs a standard group buy now.

Already done that I have quite a few machines hosted in the USA for me, here in the UK it's even worse than the $0.20c I used and we get stung with 20% import tax on top

So that is a cheaper option as I save that 20% but there's not a lot of difference really. Even though the host companies there have cheap electric by the time they add on their profits with the additional costs of running a data centre and cooling etc it's back up around that level.

Anyway good luck with the sales, I'm sure the free shipping will tempt a lot of people

Sorry didn't notice you were selling them

I only picked $0.20 as that seems a reasonable average, people can put their own figures in, was just trying to provide a simple basepoint. I agree the exponential calculators aren't very good

I've been tempted by several of the asicminer chip machines and tubes, the prices are attractive compared to dragons etc but in the end I don't think the power consumption figures are good enough, that may not matter to some who have free or cheap electric, sadly I don't

Pre-orders wouldn't be so bad if the equation wasn't so skewed...

If I take a risk by 'investing' in a pre-order, then I expect a decent reward. Sadly this never happens, all the rewards go to the vendor and we inevitably get nothing, hardware late or under spec.

That said I like the price point on these machines, so if you start selling from stock will likely get some.

I find it simpler to work things out without considering difficulty, if the result is greater than 60 days it'll likely never pay off.

$430 + $75 shipping = $505 (1 BTC)
At current difficulty
BTC0.01299 - BTC0.00589 electric = BTC0.0071 per day

So 140 days to break even with NO difficulty change ever.

Also if difficulty rises 45% from it's current number then it only mines what it costs to run.

edgar,

Just got off the phone with FedEx and it's just an error with the online tracking, parcel will be delivered today, maybe yours is the same ?

The same chips it just uses more of them and they are underclocked

More importantly that would be acknowledging there is a problem, so it will never happen.

Mine says the same which is unusual, last ones I sent arrived the next day, and looking at the tracking its arrived at the local depot at 5.30am so not sure why it won't be delivered today and a public holiday on monday

As I understand it the way Nicehash/Westhash works is based purely on submitted shares so the quality of the various connections doesn't matter that much. You aren't paying for a speed per-se you are paying for the equivalent number of shares for the requested speed.