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501  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 10:24:29 PM
Pablo,

I'm currently using the recommended default settings you posted that we should use for BTC-e. Those settings didn't include any mention of a sensible TSL value to protect us from a flash crash. What would be a sensible setting there to protect against a crash like in April, or would one not cause losses anyway?

Of course, I don't want to lose a bunch of money if we have a crash, & would prefer to be protected.

Hi NginUS,
    There is no suggested TSL setting because TSL has to be closely watched because if it is not it can cause serious losses. We largely discourage its use, it was a feature included because a small group of expert traders wanted to test some strategy, that's it.

If you do use it, I would suggest a very high number, but keep in mind that when TSL is triggered it shuts off the bot so you could miss a flash rally. I would personally just trust EMA to protect me.

I hope that helps, please let me know if you need anything at all :=).

Pablo.
502  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 10:19:35 PM
I began trading crypto earlier this year and found it difficult to track the movements and trends (especially overnight), so I've downloaded the Butter Bot demo and am intrigued by the moving averages, tweaking settings, etc.

I'm currently running the 30 minute trade frequency setting, but I'm wondering what would happen if there is to be another crash in the BTC market similar to April (which I suspect is coming soon). I was sitting in front of my computer when it happened in April, and as I recall, the market went from 260 USD down to 50 USD or so in the matter of 15-30 minutes. If my trade frequency is set to 30 minutes, isn't it possible that the bot could entirely miss the start and finish of the crash and I'd end up selling at 50, if this were to happen again?
YES.

Imho this is a weakness in the bot. Every selfrespecting bot should have a stop-loss percentage set based on the high it achieved while being bought. The bot should pull the latest ticker information every minute in between it's regular intervals to act upon the stop-loss.

Hi Saan1ty Smiley,
   Interesting question. The bots Trailing Stop Loss (TSL) feature, does exactly that, it takes the highest value since you turned on the bot and sells all your BTC for fiat if price falls by the percentage specified.

I say this every couple of pages:  It is an easy feature to understand in principle, but it is very hard to use in combination with EMA and can result in losses if improperly set. The argument on this can go either way, if it were me, I would have my bot on a 30 or 15 minute interval and not use TSL; I would just rely on the bot to act correctly.

Now a lot can go wrong in a flash crash/rocket recuperation, there is no magic setting that will protect you against all cases. A shorter time frame will make the bot more reactive, but it could follow false signals and incur some losses. In the end, you can't look at this in single trades, even if we are discussing large market movements, you have to look at it in aggregate over time or you are really just looking at noise.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
503  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
When the client is running locally you seem to be contacting your own server a lot (over SSL).
I think people have a right to know what exactly you are sending back to your own server.

Care to explain? Even when saving API keys, butter-bot.com is contacted...

Hi Smiley,
  Sure, happy to explain:

Your client just talks to the server to get the current data points, API keys
are not transmitted to our server.

That might change in the future, when we release hosting or remote
controls, but it will be optional and explicitly stated.

Please keep in mind that even if we had bad faith there is very little we could do as your keys should only have "Get Info" and "Trade" permissions.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
504  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 05:09:45 PM
I have the same issue too... I setup everything and started it up... and waiting for some "ACTION"... but nothing happens... Sad

I was hoping the bot to trade 10+ times daily.... to see some action... I currently have the DEMO...

and it is not a demo if it is not TRADING right? Tongue

anyway... it seems like the default/given setup for EMA/threshold is for the SAFEST way possible...



Hey PapaMiner Smiley,
  Yep, because EMA is a trend algorithm, the bot will only trade when the market reverses itself. Right now it is holding BTC and BTC is going up, so we are on the right track Smiley.

If you feel you need more time to evaluate the bot and see more trades, feel free to download another demos at the end of your week, you are no limited to one Smiley.

We have thought about putting a High Frequency Trading (HFT) bot out there, it's a lot more "showy" and customers tend to like it, but they don't back test very well. We will keep looking into it if we find a profitable algorithm however.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
505  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
Hi Guys,

my bots last trade is 5 day ago, does anyone have the same problems?
I get mails everyday  that orders are imminent but the bot wonīt trigger...?

WantaDuff

Like the other fellow said, we're on a rise right now and it likely won't sell, though it is getting close a few times. It depends on your settings. Your First Threshold is the 'imminent' email notice threshold, the Second Threshold is where it will actually sell.

There was a peculiar jump in price yesterday, I wonder what caused it?

I'm going to be sitting on a nice little profit when it sells!

Possibly the fact that Paypal said they may accept bitcoin in future? - http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f374ed54-4328-11e3-8350-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2jgIHkk1z

ok thanks for the explanation  Smiley iīm also very new to this and donīt understand every setting in the bot. I also played with the Settings like different treshholds and ema like other People, but well i have the bot since 1 month and didnīt recognized much or any Profit.. Either iīm doing something wrong or i donīt know. I have just around 25-30$ to trade with. The bot trades but everytime i got the 30$ in BTC when he buyīs, and got like 30$ when he sells.  Huh

Hey WantaDuff Smiley,
   It looks to me like you're on the right track there. The issue is that with so few funds your profit will fly under the radar as it will be in cents. For example, if you made 5% in a month that would be only 1.50 USD which you could think was part of the normal trading range.

Once you are more comfortable with the bot, I would suggest adding some trading funds, 150-250 USD is the recommended starting base.

Please let me know if you need anything Smiley.

Pablo.
506  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 03:00:28 PM
Ok fellas, so I got the bot installed into Chrome ok and it looks like it has accepted my BitStamp API key(s), I've back-tested a strategy. I log into Bitstamp, discover I only have ~0.07btc in my account, then discover when I try to add BTC that you have to be a verified user now :/

This sucks, well, hopefully I'll get some idea as to how the bot performs with that small amount of BTC until they can verify my creds.

*BTW, Pablo, is there anyway that you could give Grinny that month of credit since I wasn't able to use his link and I did end up taking the plunge? (believe in credit where credit due and he was the first to offer up his referral link)

Hi Nwfella Smiley,
   If you look a couple of posts back I said I would make sure both you guys got your free month. Please PM me the email you used to purchase from and I will take care of it. I already PM'd Grinny, I'm waiting for his response Smiley.

Pablo.
507  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 02:58:22 PM
Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.

Well I'm trading Bitcoin/EUR anyway, so there's no reason for me to switch back to USD.
As long as everything stays stable on these settings, I'm more than happy! Smiley

I'm very curious about the hosting you're going to offer in the future too.
Do you already have an estimated release date on that feature? Or an estimated cost? Will it be extra on top of the monthly fee?

Hi MicroFi Smiley,
  Yes, it will be a separate service, but we do not have an estimated release date or an estimated cost yet; we are working very hard on getting it out the door ASAP. We will make it as cheap as possible though Smiley.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
508  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 04, 2013, 01:15:05 AM
feel free to use my referral link + coupon code (see signature) to get 10% off on butterbot Wink
no disadvantage for you, and i will then get 1 free month from pablo Cheesy

Grinny,

I tried to use the link in your signature so you could also get a free month but it didn't work :/

*Just thought I should let you know

Hmm, looks like it's an expired link. Grinny, is that the link you get below the graph on your settings page?

Nwfella: please PM me the email you used to purchase, I will make sure you and Grinny both get an extra month Smiley.

Grinny: Please email me and we will figure out the issue with your link Smiley.

Pablo.
509  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 03, 2013, 05:19:23 PM
1. I just checked the status of the bot and this is the second time I get the following error message:
"The MtGox API is currently having issues but we will keep trying. Butter Bot will recover automatically once the API is back up."

I've tried anything to resolve this error message (disable / enable the bot - renew the ButterBot extension in Chrome - etc ...) but nothing seems to work.
What could it be that causes these outages? I wouldn't want to miss a buy/sell trigger, because the API is disconnected at the moment.

I just managed to solve the issue by changing my currency from USD to EUR in the settings.
Might be helpful for other users experiencing a similar problem.

Hi MicroFi Smiley,
     That message appears when the Mt. Gox API is lagging, usually due to a high trading volume. I understand you changed your currency to EUR and that worked out, which is great, but if you get the message again, please drop me an email at Pablo@Butter-Bot.com and I will be happy to help you figure out what's going on.

About EUR back testing, that's a possibility, not something we could do in the near future because we have a lot in the pipeline right now, but definitely something we can look into in the future.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
510  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 02, 2013, 10:15:59 PM
oh cool, even better! didn't know that (signature changed^^)!

Pablo, new users must click my ref link AND use my code in order to activate the bonus?
Or is it sufficient to use either the link OR the code?

Hey Smiley,
  Ref link gets you each a free month, the code is needed for 10% OFF Smiley.

Pablo.

I wish I had known that when I signed up. I would've given/gotten a free month. +10% off. Will that 10% off code work for my renewal next year?

Sure will Smiley. If it doesn't, it means that the subscriber has left the program, but in that case just email me, I'll be happy to ship whatever promo code we have on hand for any of you guys Smiley.

We're talking about the discount code here, your referral link never expires and you can use it to refer customers to Butter and you each get a free month.

Pablo.
511  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 02, 2013, 09:59:27 PM
oh cool, even better! didn't know that (signature changed^^)!

Pablo, new users must click my ref link AND use my code in order to activate the bonus?
Or is it sufficient to use either the link OR the code?

Hey Smiley,
  Ref link gets you each a free month, the code is needed for 10% OFF Smiley.

Pablo.
512  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 02, 2013, 09:43:45 PM
feel free to use my referral link + coupon code (see signature) to get 10% off on butterbot Wink
no disadvantage for you, and i will then get 1 free month from pablo Cheesy

And Nwfella also gets one month free Smiley.

Pablo.
513  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 02, 2013, 03:27:42 PM
Hi Pablo,

Did my email come through about the tick offset / time trades show up int he table come through?  (I've been having a few issues with my mail recently)

Thanks.
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Hi BigLad Smiley,
    Just catching up with today's email load, got a couple dozen to go. If you don't get an answer from me in a couple of hours, feel free to send me another email or PM me here. Chances are it's all in order though.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
514  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 02, 2013, 03:25:26 PM
Ok, I have decided to take the plunge with butterbot. Have a couple of coin I would like to throw at it as a benchmark vs. another bot I'm testing. So can we go about this old school or is purchasing the bot through your web-site going to be headache free?

*It was the part regarding announcement of alt-coin support in v3 that got me Smiley

Hi Nwfella Smiley,
   Glad to hear you're on board! Purchasing through the website is head ache free, feel free to give that a go. If you have any issues, just drop me an email at Pablo@Butter-Bot.com and I will take care of you post haste Smiley.

Pablo.
515  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 02, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
Hi,

thanks for the fast response...

and I am sorry... if i did not read through...

I was hoping for a TL;DR part..

anyway... I have another question... will the price be the same with current version to the latest version?

I believe latest version will have more features...

I mean... I am currently on demo right now... and if the price per version changes (per upgrade)... it would be good to know so I will have to wait for the new version...


Thanks!

Hi PapaMiner Smiley,
      Your subscription entitles you to free upgrades. As long as you maintain a subscription with us for a given product, you will get all new releases for free, that includes major releases such as Altcoins with V3.

Please let me know if you have any questions Smiley.

Pablo.
516  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 01, 2013, 11:43:01 PM
Can it support CEX.IO ?

Smiley

Hi Smiley,
  No unfortunately not yet. As Grinny said, we will first push out hosting, then V3 with Alt-Currencies, and then hopefully we can devote some time to adding exchanges Smiley.

Please let me know if you need anything at all.

Smiley

Pablo.
517  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 01, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
Grinny, Pablo, Thanks for the quick responses. Sounds very promising. I'll use your referral when I buy it Grinny, probably monday or tuesday.

Pablo, here's the screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/fNwRpC7.png

I'll drop you an e-mail for the manual. I'm currently waiting for the good ol' banks to process my transfer to Bitstamp, but they are closed (*sigh*) Wink It'd be great to have a read over it in advance.



Kami,
    Thanks for the pic, I think I fixed it; that's a remnant from an old mis-label that Theymos fixed for us a long, long time ago.

Please let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
518  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: November 01, 2013, 02:59:37 PM
Hi there,

I just saw this bot and read the last few pages. I do have a couple of questions:

1. The first post has your website and e-mail in an EDIT, but it's listed at "@(malware)". Is this the forum doing it? Is the site still safe?
2. I would like to test the bot out with a start of about $500 and see how it goes from there. I get the impression that it's simply "set up" with the settings (be it my own or the suggested values) and it's basically "set & forget" after that? It automatically buys/sells? Or is it a notification, e.g. it mails you when the best times are to sell/buy but I have to press the button/verify it myself?
3. I'm gonna start with Bitstamp, how did this bot do in previous spikes and (small) "crashes"? E.g. Last April when it hit >200 and then crashed, or the few hours just after silk road was shut down? What about last month, with the 100 -> 200 rise?
4. When I buy the bot, is there extra documentation available? About how the options work and what they do? I can't find that on the site currently. I'm a bit confused about what the "tick offset" option does. I saw some screenshots where it's simply at "0", so I'm not sure if that's an option that should be tweaked or not. It's not mentioned with the suggested values.

Thanks all,

Hi Kami Smiley,
   Let me take your questions one at at time:

"1. The first post has your website and e-mail in an EDIT, but it's listed at "@(malware)". Is this the forum doing it? Is the site still safe?"

I'm not seeing this, could you post a screenshot so I can track it down please? www.Butter-Bot.com is safe.

"2. I would like to test the bot out with a start of about $500 and see how it goes from there. I get the impression that it's simply "set up" with the settings (be it my own or the suggested values) and it's basically "set & forget" after that? It automatically buys/sells? Or is it a notification, e.g. it mails you when the best times are to sell/buy but I have to press the button/verify it myself?"

The bot will trade by itself and it's best if left alone over the long term. You will get notification emails when a trade is executed or when a trade is imminent; you turn these off in the control panel.

"3. I'm gonna start with Bitstamp, how did this bot do in previous spikes and (small) "crashes"? E.g. Last April when it hit >200 and then crashed, or the few hours just after silk road was shut down? What about last month, with the 100 -> 200 rise?"

You can see this on the back testing engine with different settings, it's very easy to test and view, just download the demo, and if you have any issues with it drop me an email (Pablo@Butter-Bot.com) Smiley.

4. When I buy the bot, is there extra documentation available? About how the options work and what they do? I can't find that on the site currently. I'm a bit confused about what the "tick offset" option does. I saw some screenshots where it's simply at "0", so I'm not sure if that's an option that should be tweaked or not. It's not mentioned with the suggested values.

The demo and the purchased bot come with the same user manual, if you want to take a look at it before using the demo, drop me an email and I will send it to you.

Please do not hesitate to let me know if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
519  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: October 30, 2013, 12:08:23 AM
What makes a "Golden Cross"?

Under what conditions does the bot go from red to green?

I'm too new to be familiar with these things yet, so I'd have to constantly be watching the little icon, which isn't practical. I watch a chart periodically on bitcoinwisdom.com instead. So could you share with me what kind of pattern I can be on the lookout for there so I'll know to have an educated guess as to when I should check the bot to see if it's in this condition you speak of when it's going from red to green?

I get emails when the bot buys. Should I just wait until the bot says its a good time to buy? I use btcQuick rather than the exchange to buy, but still it can be an indicator.

Easy answer:  Yes, when Butter sends you an email that it is buying is a good time to buy more coin if your have cash.

The Golden Cross is where the EMA lines cross at the bottom of the curve.  This corresponds to where Butter buys.  The Dead Cross is the top, this is where Butter sells.

So no, you don't really have to "watch" anything if you don't want to... just wait for Butter to Email you.

Smiley

This is actually pretty great advice on the best times to fund your bot. I'm adding this point to our customer support wiki, if that's okay with you Smiley.

Before anyone asks, yes, we really want to release a forum/wiki for FAQ's etc. Will do as soon as we get some free development time Smiley.

Pablo.
520  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: October 28, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
Friends,
   We have just released a patched version of Butter-Bot to deal with an issue that could affect Reserve Trading on Mt. Gox. Only one instance of this issue has been reported because it only happens under very specific circumstances, nonetheless, this release fully solves the problem.

If you do not already have it in your inbox, please drop me an email.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you need anything at all Smiley.

Pablo.
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