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2461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2019, 07:15:06 PM
ladder style

I won't be able to mention ladders (in the JJG/Jbreher sense) without secretly or openly laughing at the memory of Globb0's words - brainwashed ladder drone. Which reminds me, I really owe an sMerit there, and now I have one, so I'll comply.

I don't recall the significance of such a comment.  Maybe I missed it?

Here it is. Oops, I'm laughing again.

By the way, I checked in with my mom in regards to some of her BTC details a few days ago, and I was surprised in a few regards.

She is actually one of the few peeps who actually did something that is in the neighborhood of what I suggested, and that was to at least put some money into BTC and to dollar cost average and to only sell small amounts on the way up in order to be prepared for further possible UP.

So, she largely has been following my suggestions, but her revelations to me a few days ago, showed me that peeps are going to do what they are going to do, and peeps got their own minds and they are going to experiment to some degree.  

-snip-


You brainwashed your mum!

Fuck. She will be rich but she can never enjoy it now she is a ladder drone.   Cheesy
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I never really sold any btc, except for the occasional, insignificant, small expense. I've always replaced the spent corn asap, and often at a lower price too  Cool Which means I'm basically still in DCA accumulation phase, albeit with irregular frequency, when there is excess fiat that begs promotion to 'real money' status (btc).

Your ladder concept, however, works very well for me in trading atm. I just extended the concept so I have 2 parallel ladders, one going up (long) and one going down (short). I do tweak a lot, especially to get out of trouble during stormy weather, so I often cut both ladders when I'm in the green and I feel the exposition is making me sweat too much.

Now is such a time. I would be happy to be left flat or with only the long open, but I would like a much lower entry point, so I'm still dancing on two ladders until the corn either makes my long side shine (I'll happily close both ladders, possibly after enlarging the short to match the long) or takes a small nosedive (I'll cash out the short and increase the long a bit, averaging down).
2462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2019, 06:49:09 PM
I’m 33, been with my girl for 11 years. We’re not married but I can’t see myself with anybody else. If for some awful reason something happened I’d probably go for a little older.

I like somebody who can look after me, obviously they’d have to be hot though. I like fake tits, botox, lip fillers & stuff like that.

LOL. Me too dude, me too. I just don't really care for the emotional baggage that often comes with that sort of thing. Usually there's a backstory... Well, lets face it, all women of a certain age have backstories, but only some can afford fake tits and botox.

But with regards to your first part, good on you dude. Stick with it. I've only been with my g.f. for a year and a few months but she's already pissed we're not married yet (its a Philippines thing). Taking my sweet time for the moment.

Maybe when 1 signature campaign payment = 1 engagement ring, things will change in her favor.

Finally on topic! All this bitcoin chatter is distracting.

With a few exceptions, I've always dated younger girls. I've had my modest share of milfs, but I'm under par in that department - at least if I compare myself to my friends. I too like youth (within decency, as nutildah rightly put it). I can be flexible about physical age, and I have been, but my issue with older women is emotional, not only physical.

Most mature women (and I mean around 35 and up, but sometimes even before!) really have no clue about relationships. Rather than living it up while the gas lasts, they keep throwing their emotional baggage, scars, and past experiences in the face of their new acquaintances, as if the new guys had to atone for the alleged jerks they met. Jerks they were happy to marry and have children with in most cases, by the way. I don't doubt those guys were "bad" each in his own way - I am no saint myself. But puh-leeze...

All these women seem to want to do is wilt and dry up alone. Or are they waiting for, say, George Clooney to take them to his castle in the clouds? The rich and famous have access to an army of fresh pussy these candidate cat ladies can't even start to imagine. George Clooney would probably have a taste of your DAUGHTER, ma'am. Provided she's hot enough, I mean.
2463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2019, 03:34:57 PM
having 4 or 5 obedient 17 year old males around would be pretty dammed handy.

Ha! Haha! HahahhhaaaahhahahahahHahahaHaaaa!

Hoo, boy. That's rich.
Having 4 or 5 obedient 18+ year old females around would be pretty damned better.
Filthy rich, so to say.  Cool

I prefer my women a bit older.
25+ please.

18 year old girls (although legal) look like children to me.
I agree. But 18+ still covers that  Cool
2464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2019, 03:23:00 PM
having 4 or 5 obedient 17 year old males around would be pretty dammed handy.

Ha! Haha! HahahhhaaaahhahahahahHahahaHaaaa!

Hoo, boy. That's rich.
Having 4 or 5 obedient 18+ year old females around would be pretty damned better.
Filthy rich, so to say.  Cool
2465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 07:44:40 PM
You feeling a little safer Elwar?

Getting better. Nadia and I got married and we're moving on with our lives.

Ouch! There goes the free man we knew.

Joking  Tongue --- congrats to the newlywed!!
2466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 03:59:50 PM
Nutty seems to be the right word here.


There. You ruined my sMerit piggybank again. Aren't you ashamed?

(The quoted pic from TheBawb would have been totally worthy - at least as one of mic's peecs - but legendaries are best left alone by people dealing with sMerits on a hand-to-mouth basis.)
2467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 03:33:53 PM
If you're 99% certain that the price will go significantly down from now, in the next few months, why not sell some of your stash, and keep that fiat to buy more later ? The risk is minimal when the price is high like right now.

Who wants to be roached? Not me. I do place little opposing bets trying to balance them out until the sum pays off, but touching my main stash? No way.

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I know many here talk about buying BTC regularly, but personally I don't earn enough fiat to invest significantly in BTC. I must already invest more than 20% of my salary in my "401K" (because my employer doubles it, and it's a sound investment), so after that, not much is left.
There. We all have different conditions and motives. Fiat, like corn, is hard to come by. At least, there are no fiat trees round here unfortunately  Grin
2468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 03:23:13 PM
This year is perhaps the best example why hodling is way more profitable than trading. We had 4.5x raise of the price with 2 very short lived dips 20%+. If you are telling me that you predicted both dips and didn't sleep to catch the bottoms, then you are the best trader in the world. But the truth is that 99.99% of the traders didn't sold just at the moments before the price dropped. In all cases hodlers had the biggest profit. However, I must warn you that I sense some complacency and over confidence, that may play a bad game in your future trades. Based on the probability theory and the testimony of many traders, 10 successfull trades may and will be completely annihilated by the 11th, even if your are genious. And then you will be vulnerable to the negative emotions and make other bad choices which may bring a substantial loss. Your philosophy is proven to be wrong by the founders of the HODL movement. Bitcoin is not a shitcoin to be traded for 10% profit and then dumped. If you think so, better go to Poloniex or Binance and trade shitcoins.
I respectfully disagree. I am significantly better off for trading with a part of my stash - what I call the play money. At heart I'm a hodler, but I can't always (ever?) buy as much as I'd like, so a bit of trading on the side helps a lot. As to the 11th losing trade annihilating the previous 10 winning ones, I think it boils down to being careful and sticking to a reasonable quantitative plan. You win, you take it off the table. You lose, you lose and eat it and go on.

Of course, looking for exact tops and bottoms is a recipe for disaster. My point is, you don't need to catch the extremes to be profitable.

Disclosure: I've got a green long position which I'm getting a bit impatient to close, and a smaller short position, in the red, which I'm hoping to make a bit larger averaging up, ladder style. When the two positions are equal, my net position stays put, more or less, since one makes up for the other. Then it's a game of consuming the winning side and then the other one, aiming to reach the null point (0 long, 0 short).

Many shorters burned this year, and you know it. For 6 months they kept losing money. Finally, there were some profit at the last drop, but who cares. If you are "hodler" and try to make some profit with 10% of your stash, this is just a child game. Ok, lets think about my points. Let's say that at 4500 you had 10% profit. You took it, right? Then patiently you waited for a dip to 3K-ish but it didn't happen and never will be. Then at 13K you enter again and made another 10% profit. You took it, alright? At the same time the hodlers made 4.5x profit without doing anything! Ok, now, let's see the other situation. You want to increase your bitcoin stash and sold multiple times in 2018 with some 10-20% or more increase of the stash. Let's say you doubled your bitcoins in 2018 with 10 trades. And in 2019 you sold at 5K. At the same time the price wen't 4.5K from the bottom, so again you have 2.5x less coins now, if you were just hodling. So what is that you 'respecfully disagree"?
I see your point, ivomm, but do you see mine? By trading, even at "child game" level, I can increase my stash - which I couldn't if I had to buy with fiat that simply isn't always available.

By the way, I'm not an eager shorter. The rule "don't short the corn" is deeply ingrained, more so in a bull market, but in general she's shown us time and again how brutal her reversals can be. The matter is I often need to short so I can hedge and make some progress even while the long is suffering.

Your example isn't convincing to me. I am not patiently waiting for a dip to 3k-ish. I wrote that off before 6k. It's all SOMA, so I might be wrong, as almost always happens with SOMA analysis, but still. Similarly, I don't need to wait for 13k to enter. In fact, I'm in play mode already. But I can wait for my short to get in the green, which I am confident will happen soon, or at least less red, which would allow me to eat a small loss for piece of mind - after cashing out the long, I would be in profit anyway.

Of course, what I'm saying is personal opinion/experience and doesn't necessarily apply to other people.

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But if you think you are smarter than the holders, go ahead, nobody is stopping you. I am just warning the n00bs that think too high of themselves because of 2-3 successfull trades. Bitcoin is not for wanna-be-quick-millionaires n00bs. Bitcoins is for those who value it more than the fiat, tether and the other shitcoins.
No quick millionaire wannabe here, and I don't think I'm smarter. I just happened to find a system that works for me. It grows my stash slowly but with low risk. Risk more, earn more. It's a matter of personal choice. Noobs will be noobs, and they generally need a few lessons before finding what works for them. I've already had a fair share of "classes", so it's only fair I capitalize on them a bit now.
2469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 03:06:42 PM
ladder style

I won't be able to mention ladders (in the JJG/Jbreher sense) without secretly or openly laughing at the memory of Globb0's words - brainwashed ladder drone. Which reminds me, I really owe an sMerit there, and now I have one, so I'll comply.
2470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 02:59:39 PM
Genders?

Of course there are more than 2 genders. Gender is a grammatical term... masculine, feminine, neuter, common, etc.

I think so too, and I'm quite outspoken about it; but the world keeps on disagreeing, especially the USA. I remember arguing with a guy about his use of 'gender' instead of 'sex' in a web form. It was like 15 years ago, and it's been downhill since then.
2471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 02:56:14 PM
This year is perhaps the best example why hodling is way more profitable than trading. We had 4.5x raise of the price with 2 very short lived dips 20%+. If you are telling me that you predicted both dips and didn't sleep to catch the bottoms, then you are the best trader in the world. But the truth is that 99.99% of the traders didn't sold just at the moments before the price dropped. In all cases hodlers had the biggest profit. However, I must warn you that I sense some complacency and over confidence, that may play a bad game in your future trades. Based on the probability theory and the testimony of many traders, 10 successfull trades may and will be completely annihilated by the 11th, even if your are genious. And then you will be vulnerable to the negative emotions and make other bad choices which may bring a substantial loss. Your philosophy is proven to be wrong by the founders of the HODL movement. Bitcoin is not a shitcoin to be traded for 10% profit and then dumped. If you think so, better go to Poloniex or Binance and trade shitcoins.
I respectfully disagree. I am significantly better off for trading with a part of my stash - what I call the play money. At heart I'm a hodler, but I can't always (ever?) buy as much as I'd like, so a bit of trading on the side helps a lot. As to the 11th losing trade annihilating the previous 10 winning ones, I think it boils down to being careful and sticking to a reasonable quantitative plan. You win, you take it off the table. You lose, you lose and eat it and go on.

Of course, looking for exact tops and bottoms is a recipe for disaster. My point is, you don't need to catch the extremes to be profitable.

Disclosure: I've got a green long position which I'm getting a bit impatient to close, and a smaller short position, in the red, which I'm hoping to make a bit larger averaging up, ladder style. When the two positions are equal, my net position stays put, more or less, since one makes up for the other. Then it's a game of consuming the winning side and then the other one, aiming to reach the null point (0 long, 0 short).
2472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2019, 12:56:21 AM
2473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 11:48:56 PM
Trolled by a 13 year old girl?  Nice

Or is it you being trolled?

Arrietroller??  Tongue
2474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 11:48:14 PM
Mysterious warnings
Block version unexpected
Satoshi 18

#haiku

So interesting
Saying "one eight" or "eighteen"
it's still a haiku

So interesting
Saying "one eight" or "eighteen"
it's still a haiku

Elwar's back with us!
Missing a few syllables
for a true #haiku
2475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 10:07:53 PM
Mysterious warnings
Block version unexpected
Satoshi 18

#haiku
2476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 09:39:12 PM
Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.
TL; DR:Nothing to worry about

Executive summary:
This message pops out because of a depleted BIP9 options.
The real problem is that if you get this error message you are not running latest bitcoin core version.
From version 0.18 this error message (basically a warning message coming out every block cannot be considered a warning anymore, so basically better to shut it off.
So: please LFC: upgrade to latest version as there are many other improvements.

FULL Story:

-snip- technical material (several relevant links)

I don't think it's an old version of the client.

Code:
% bitcoin-cli getnetworkinfo
{
  "version": 180000,
  "subversion": "/Satoshi:0.18.0/",
  "protocolversion": 70015,
...
2477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
^ try page number 24366

Thanks JSRAW. You're the WOT archivist to me, more or less  Grin

I thought there had been a post I missed with a few 15k hats to choose from, but it's not like that. So I had to borrow one of the two available hats, and I picked micg's. I hope The Goose won't mind.
I politely asked for a personalised version of the hat, and I got what I wanted.
I suggest you to try the same, you might be surprised by XHomerX10 generosity.


Thanks fillippone, I already know how liberal xhomerx10 is with his skills, since I've seen him conjure hats in a split second for several WO members, including myself. This time, however, i don't feel like wasting his time and energy, since we're bound to 30k soonish anyway Cool
2478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
^ try page number 24366

Thanks JSRAW. You're the WOT archivist to me, more or less  Grin

I thought there had been a post I missed with a few 15k hats to choose from, but it's not like that. So I had to borrow one of the two available hats, and I picked micg's. I hope The Goose won't mind.
2479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 07:54:39 PM
@d_eddie

Date yourself up dude

We looking for 15K now Cheesy
Yeah right Mic, I should have updated my hat some time ago already. But where are the 15k hats? I must have missed the post...

(And while we're on xhomerx10's art, I was awed by the Death Angel job!)
2480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 04, 2019, 05:00:48 PM
Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.

I do have a few, yes. Last is 32 out of 100, just for the sake of comparison.
I wouldn't even have noticed without your heads up.
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