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1481  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypt is now legal in Ukraine on: December 10, 2019, 04:53:33 AM
many things that I think about hopefully there will be an economic crisis in 2020 for some countries again bankrupt and switch to sit with us on the same train, this is what I think, oh yes hopefully this news does not disappoint bitcoin need a big adoption in all countries to be able faster developing, hopefully Ukraine can become a more developed country

They still need to develop and improve more aspects in propagating their cryptocurrency. Bitcoin took a lot of processes in order to achieve their goals and standards. Ukraine needs to reach those standards for their crypto to become a reliable cryptocurrency.

They need to promote and let their country and people to adopt their new currency. It will surely help their economy to rise and let them enhance their technology.
1482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Truly Random is Random on: December 09, 2019, 12:27:28 PM
Being random is how a person understand and translate something. Example of which is our thoughts, if we think of something some people will think of it randomly but for us it's planned.

What are you trying to say? Being random is not like that, random is unpredictable and it is the outcome without pattern. It's just simply as that, don't make yourself overthink about being random.

In relation to gambling, random is very random because im gambling there are many outcomes and if you try to bet at random, your chances to win is very small. There are a lot of combinations in the gambling, and random is just 0.00000001% depends on the number of choices.
1483  Economy / Economics / Re: How does the US and China trade war affect bitcon? How do people think ? on: December 09, 2019, 08:14:27 AM
Because part of that trade war is the Crypto mining, now the USA wants to directly compete against china in bitcoin mining, and we know china will not stay there with cross arms, so, things will get hot in that aspect. 

The materials to build the miners are part of that war, so, ofcourse it affects bitcoin. But at the end Bitcoin price isn't just based on those factors, so, that will not affect the bitcoin price at all.

China has the highest population in this world, so do you think USA can easily dominate China in terms of bitcoin mining? I don't think so.

Although USA is more advance than China in terms of technology, the percentage of labor is much more higher than USA. China is very competitive in terms of money and economy. They will do anything just to dig more for them to become more powerful above all country.

And I think that the trading war will affect the bitcoin price in such aspects.
1484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: France to launch their own cryptocurrency on: December 09, 2019, 07:15:16 AM
well, it seems like France will also launch their own cryptocurrency next year. it's funny that just year ago they despise cryptocurrency(article about it) and now they are launching their own cryptocurrency
and even teaching high school students about cryptocurrency(article about it) and preparing them for it. how things have changed in just a year Cheesy Cheesy



It's not just France. There are a lot of countries who are planning the same! China, India and other BRICS  countries are also planning for it. But this doesn't change the economy for better because these are just a digital representation of the government controlled fiat currency. Earlier you used to have cash in your wallet and now you are going to carry it on your mobile wallet! That's it! Nothing drastically different!

China already have started making their own crypto currency as they shutdown bitcoin in their country. So everything is possible nowadays because of the technology that can help cryptocurrency to develop itself.

Chinese Government can now control people for them to mine their own digital currency. As they control people, they can now totally control their economy.
1485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread on: December 08, 2019, 02:50:15 PM
Good play on Detroit pistons, they are getting better now and winning on big numbers in their past games and good thing is they are playing at home.
Not sure if Morris will play but overall the team still in great shape with Griffin back healthy, good luck on your bet man, that's a great odds as well.

I don't think so. Just look at their position in Eastern Conference.

I think they can't reach the top 8 until the rest of the season. Their ball movement is so bad that they can't get a good place in the NBA top rankings.

But credits to D Rose for working so hard every game, they have a chance if he continue to play at that level. While, Blake Griffin is not that powerful enough in the post. He now shoots a three, that's an improvement but his post moves disappeared.
1486  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Have you not relented in viewing your account wallet? on: December 08, 2019, 01:49:24 PM
I am not too often to check my wallet. If I want to check something, that will be the bitcoin price. I let my wallet like what it is, and I only check when I want to withdraw. You don't need to do that because that will makes you too busy to check your wallet, and you can forget what you need to do. Just try to stay calm and leave your wallet in that place, try it for one day, then try with another day, and so on.

Being anxious about you account wallet can bring stress to your life. It can also affect your health, lifestyle and way of living. Try to record all your transactions for you to be able to monitor your activities to your account. If you're being anxious, try to stay calm and be comfortable on the security of your account.

Practice entertaining yourself and avoid always checking your account. I know that it is normal to check your account but if there's nothing wrong, don't panic stay calm. Make sure that you talk to your friends who experience the same problem as you and seek help to your friends.

1487  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat Vs Cryptocurrency, which would you choose? on: December 08, 2019, 08:32:39 AM
I have recently been quite curious about the many debates about which currency is better.
  Many people say that they will choose Crypto because it is convenient and creates a common currency, bringing equality to all countries.
And some people choose Fiat money because they've been used to using it for decades and now they have credit cards and wallet payment apps online, so why do you need crypto?
Which side do you think is right? I want to hear from you sincerely.

These need a wide broad of discussion as everyone will surely have a different view. Both have advantages and disadvantages, both are different, there lots of things that need to look into for this comparison - so for me, the comparison is not making sense or necessary to discuss.

Since you already hear some of the sides, what do you need to learn more? Try to recap those conversations and debates you encounter before then from there, decide and make your own view.



It’s kind of like comparing email to snail mail.

What do you mean here? Payment process? The speed? The convenience?

As I read those other opinion, they choose fiat over crypto. I'm not satisfied on their statement because I don't understand why they chose fiat. Maybe they aren't knowledgeable enough to handle bitcoin or maybe they don't experience how to use and manage bitcoin.

For me, bitcoin has a lot of advantage that fiat even if it is being used decades ago. Bitcoin is more secured, has fast transactions, and has a lot of promotion so many also uses in their transactions. It can also help you to your investments.
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for increasing and decreasing money on: December 07, 2019, 02:08:48 PM
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1. If you have a lot of money, go gambling to reduce them.
2. And if you have too little money, go gambling to increase them.
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Dont quite understand what you say. I dont think that people who have the desire to bet aim to spend money, but most of them aim to increase the money and the rest because they want to have fun.

The fact is people are betting because they want to improve finances, but the process makes the offender feel happy and other feelings.

Not all people who has a lot of money play gambling because he want to lose or reduce them, others play gambling to increase and become richer. That's because of greed, they want to gain more and more money.

And not all people who don't play gambling, want to increase them. Others are scared to lose all they have because of urge to have a lot of money.

People are different and you don't need to judge them based on what they do in gambling. When it comes to money, it can really control people and change the way they live their lives.
1489  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Using a trader from my portfolio on: December 07, 2019, 08:03:15 AM

SCAM SCAM SCAM

There is no such thing as someone who will make an effort guiding you from scratch without an attempt of taking advantage of you.

Too good to be true always lead into bad and negative results.

In addition, do not entertain them because they can cause destruction to your portfolio. Focus on yourself, gain knowledge and observe on your surroundings. Don't trust easily, use your critical thinking skills in terms of cryptocurrency.

Make yourself better and professional little by little. Improve yourself and don't depend on others. You yourself is the key for your investment to grow.
1490  Economy / Economics / Re: Hi Excuse me Are currencies a "store of value on: December 07, 2019, 06:50:46 AM
The only thing that really keeps it's value is property. Even gold has been known to lose it's vale (see early 1990's).
Well yes. But property isn't generally used to help the economy restore itself, but rather gold. Gold has been known to be one of the steadiest properties that have not seen any huge changes in its price in the recent years. With Fiat currently collapsing literally on us, gold would still be the best choice instead of properties. Sad to say about how America has been printing money though. They know what is the issue but they refuse to address it and is instead preparing for another economic crash like the last time.

Everything loses its values but the real question is "how long will it store its value?". Gold really has a very stable value and the changes in its price is slower than the currencies. Fiat is very unstable that year by year or months by months, it changes its value depending on the economy of one's country.

Gold is the best choice but soon, it will also have the down price, not now but sooner.
1491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My dream for bitcoin on: December 07, 2019, 03:54:59 AM
Your dream might just be a pipe dream and nothing more. Most people think Bitcoin can become the "One World Currency" and that is simply too

ambitious. Governments will never allow that and to make things worst, when Bitcoin shows potential to "disrupt" local reserve currencies, governments

will simply ban or outlaw it. They will criminalize the use and ownership of Bitcoin and they will enforce that with their power and their guns. Most of the

governments are tolerating Bitcoin now, because they cannot stop it, but they will slowly but surely close down all the on ramp and off ramp options

for the conversion of Fiat to BTC and visa versa.  Angry

As for example, the Chinese government, they want to shutdown bitcoin over and over again. They don't want this crypto currency regulates to their own country. They want to create their own, so they will make a way for the bitcoin to be dominated.

Once they've done it, they will not allow any blockchain technology enters their economy. They want to full control their economy and the money of their people. It's just easy as that.

So in order for you to achieve our dreams for bitcoin. Let us help each other promote and continue the use of bitcoin in more transactions.
1492  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Traders who never bother to learn how to trade on: December 06, 2019, 12:06:22 PM
When people here that crypto trading can be helpful to make lot of money in very wuick time then they will jump into it without knowing enough knowledge.
They even don't know about wallets and exchange and at the end they will lose all their money and blame cryptos.
The most important part of the knowledge is to learn about safety(security), most investors do not even know what a hardware wallet is, how to use it or even how to purchase it, this should be the first things to learn as a cryptocurrency investor, how to protect your coins and keep them yours, if you have sufficiently acquired that knowledge, you can then step up to learn how to trade(probably paper trading )before investing

As for safety, that is very basic and you can sure your secuity in 10 minutes. You can teach beginners safety and they can easy learn it. That's not the big problem in trading, people.

The big problem is that they keep on searching knowledge and information but they don't know how to apply it in the actual trading. That's the use of this threads, to know the basics of trading and later you will apply it. As you apply it, you'll get experiences.

Experiences is the key to become a professional trader. You'll learn the ups and downs of trading. That's the purpose of applying those knowledge, EXPERIENCE.
1493  Economy / Economics / Re: Don't spend bitcoin. Not now. on: December 06, 2019, 09:36:18 AM
That's a little ridiculous thinking. So you suggest to not spend Bitcoin until it becomes trusted enough.

If no one uses Bitcoin, how do you want the ecosystem to develop? If there is no ecosystem people won't get interested in and Bitcoin may become a currency like the currency for Second Life (the video game (?) with its currency, not sure if I'm right)

The dollar is based on trust, the day people no longer trust, USD will become the new Zimbabwe dollar, yes it's a fact but if Bitcoin needs to earn people's trust, it can't just happen without doing anything.

Maybe that will happen, but those who did it literally are dumb people. It doesn't mean that don't spend now, you will not spend it in any necessary thing. That will really make you poor and ridiculous.

Too much spending is the wrong doing which is this thread is all about. So that's not my point, using bitcoin WISELY while waiting for it to rise again is a good strategy. Minimize your spending for your own necessities and not on your wants.

However, it will still help for the promotion of bitcoin and earning the trust of the people based on how you use it.
1494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin back to $10k soon according to Bloomberg? on: December 06, 2019, 08:06:12 AM
Everyone can predict or claim that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies can go or high or low to $X,XXX or so.
Almost everyone in the world says the same thing, users of Bitcoin.
In 2019, it is not bad to predict the price of bitcoin if it is valued at a mid-year price of $ 4,000, it has now risen to the present level of $ 7,500, I think it's a very positive thing to invest in 2019 if you do in the middle of 2019.

For 2020 there are at least hundreds of predictions that appear in the media. Many say that bitcoin can penetrate beyond the level of $ 10,000, that's very certain and will happen, given that and seeing that bitcoin demand and fans are increasing year by year, I really believe this will happen, like people say it's just a matter of time, just wait.

Bitcoin still needs a lot of time to recover or go beyond its peak. Year 2018 really won the highest range of $10,000 and holders are looking forward for it yo happen again. As what you've said it increases year by year but, also consider that not every year is a positive year for btc.

In reality, there is a downward movement in the chart. Market is very volatile and unstable. But as a bitcoin fan, we also look forward for the bitcoin to become high again, 8 to 10 years from now. Always observe the chart for the predictions because nothing is sure in cryptocurrency but you need to be patient and discipline for you to be ready when the bitcoin becomes the star again.
1495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II on: December 05, 2019, 01:41:57 PM
I will make my prediction once the fight will be near, it gives some insights that both fighters will be preparing for it and have enough time to make it perfectly shaped.
It for sure Joshua will push himself to the limit and reclaims his championship but how about Ruiz? There is something to prove also and it gonna be a big big fight for them. I've never thought that it never reaches into 12 rounds.

If the first fight ended in a decision then we can expect anyone of the fighter can dominate the other one, but Joshua give up on this fight, he is totally outclassed, out punch and it's almost like a no match, he has no answer to Ruiz punch we still don't know how his team is going to counter Ruiz, but one thing is for sure, he can't take Ruiz punch while Ruiz can take his punch.
Anthony Joshua's over-confidence may have cost him that fight. Who would have think that a fighter with beer belly would knock out him. We can't predict on who will win this fight but i think the challenger here had a big chance since he have to prove to everybody that the loss that he have is just a fluke and not because he is being outclassed.

Being humble is very important, it will help you dominate your opponent. Keep your mouth shut until you perform your deadly skills, let them talk and destroy him after. Control you emotions and focus on the fight. If AJ does that then he can execute his punches quickly.

Fighters are trained to become well-disciplined, focus and determined. Well in fact, he is not focused about the fight, he didn't take Ruiz seriously. That's the problem.

So in this rematch, it is very hard to predict who will win this time. Ruiz got the momentum, but Anthony Joshua got his revenge and is determined to get the belt.
1496  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading without losses? on: December 05, 2019, 05:32:31 AM
Some traders get some profits without lossing amount but it may be his first transactions..but maximum trading or investment facing some or little bit losses. I face a huge amount of losses due to price reduction.
Not only you suffering with these kinds of thing, almost all of us experiences these stuff so nothing to be surprised.

Trading without losses? - Fantastic  Tongue
7 Years of trading experience
Losses is normal thing
Losses will be everytime
Never trade without losses
Yep, its okay for being optimistic but don't be that dumb because there is nothing perfect in this world so you may suffer with losses.

Although there's nothing perfect but you should still practice successful transactions. We all know that nothing's perfect in this world but we can minimize those losses and prevent it. Practice trading and gain more experience until you can minimize your losses in trades.

That's the reality, it is also good to become optimistic but we need to think of the possibilities. We need to become prepared in times of losses and control our emotion to avoid worst things.

Focus on your goal, keep your eye on the thing that you want to achieve. All of us became beginners at first but, it depends on us if we will make ourselves the best.
1497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: crypto earnings on: December 05, 2019, 12:02:47 AM
guys how to get around local tax laws and convert crypto earnings into legal fiat?

If the government in your country regulates cryptocurrency then you will have no problem in changing your stock to fiat currency. all the while, if cryptocurrency is prohibited in your country, then that's the time you have to go through blockchain to change crypto to fiat for as long as you have the credit cards which accept crypto. You will have to go through some process in exchange to do that though like in coinbase.

In short, you should go to a country that is no hassle in giving you a service you want about crypto currency. You've stated a very obvious matter, of course you should only regulate your crypto in a country that allows it.

Also you should know first the security of the country for you to avoid being hacked or scammed. Security is very important when it comes to crypto currency. Most especially if it has a potential or if you're going to convert it into fiat. Fiat is more vulnerable to negative things.
1498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2019-2020 betting on: December 04, 2019, 07:10:49 AM
Philadelphia vs Utah tonight is going to be an interesting game.
Utah is stronger and I think that they are going to win. 1.90 is a good odd to bet on them - Phila is not going to be closer that 6 points in the game.
Good luck to all.

Could we please stop with that nonsense! Utah and 76ers played YESTERDAY, almost 24 hours ago!!!!

Take your shitposting talents somewhere else and never come back. Thank you!

I apologize if my post sounds too harsh but that stupidity and plain spam has to end.

You're not harsh, Imho! Folks would rather just type any garbage in as much as it get counted towards their post requirements. Most of them are not even intrested in these sports. It is rather more annoying in the football threads. Almost none of them even place bets on the matches, but are always the ones giving betting tips.

Indeed, they just want to post and post until they meet the no. of post required in a day. They just post nonsense information and redundant things related to the topic.

And EXACTLY, they post tips that has been said by other people. They just repeat the tips and construct another sentence with as same thoughts as the original post.

If you're not interested about sports, stop sharing tips just to achieve your requirements. Seek first information about sports and analyze the happenings in sports betting.
1499  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Technical Analysis Bullshit or Not? on: December 04, 2019, 06:06:57 AM
You will never know if technical analysis is bullshiy or not unless you used it and gained profits from it. To those who dont believe in it, they may have another way to analyse whats happening to the coin.
Or they just really don’t know what’s Technical Analysis all about. Its easy to say shit to those things that we don’t understand but the moment when you start learning, they make you realize that you’re wrong. TA is great to all traders, its the best tool for them but of course its not perfect which is normal on a volatile market.

Technical analysis is always the advantage for you in the market. It is never a disadvantage whenever you apply it in your bitcoin price observation. Technical Analysis helps each and every trader around the globe and some of them is successful now because of it.

Know first before making a negative statement about something. Don't just make a conclusion about the things that you don't understand.
1500  Economy / Economics / Re: stupidity is so close to poverty on: December 04, 2019, 05:24:48 AM
stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion.  Grin Grin

Stupidity can be one factor for people to be poor, because he can not use the opportunity to make a profit.

Stupidity is very far from poverty, there are people who is stupid but they are wiser than those who are intelligent. Stupidity has a lot of opportunity to learn and become knowledgeable. They have room for improvement and to be educated.

Those LAZY people are the one who's so close to poverty. The opportunity is there but they don't have the feeling to grab it. They just lay down and wait for the luck and fortune to come.
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