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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to change timeoffset in our wallet server? on: September 08, 2014, 12:56:47 AM
Maybe you could stop the server, and start it again ./Namecoind -reindex

I don't know if it will work.
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server on: September 08, 2014, 12:32:09 AM

The war on drugs has ruined more lives than the drugs themselves.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Here's just one example of the lives that have been needlessly lost due to the war on drugs:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/13001-calderon-reign-ends-with-six-year-mexican-death-toll-near-120000

The war on drugs, the prison sentences, the families split up, the children taken into care, the gossip, the loss of income, job and future.

Just a few more to add on.

darkota is a Troll, and serious attempts to engage him intellectually will end in tears (yours).

He is famous for his self-moderated "litecoin is officially dead" thread, where he deleted every post that disagreed with him.

He's also famous for asking users here for bitcoin to start his own exchange. He failed to get it off the ground.



183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / XMR: let's have no difference of opinion. on: September 08, 2014, 12:21:21 AM
Open source and secrecy, it kind of clashes, so best to delete posts from your XMR self-moderated threads.



184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server on: September 08, 2014, 12:10:31 AM
If it was not for drug dealers then drug users would never be able to get ahold of drugs, nor would they have ever gotten into using illegal drugs. Also drug dealers will often take advantage of a person's addiction and do things like extend credit and give a discount to a person who is unable to pay to prevent them from potentially breaking their habit.

As if people that support the war on drugs really give a shit about drug addicts.

Drug addiction isn't the problem, it's just a symptom.  That's why trying to take away the supply won't eliminate the demand.  Only counseling and treatment can do that.

Furthermore, not all drug users are drug addicts.  Many are recreational users with no danger of becoming addicted.
If drugs are not available in the first place then people would never get addicted.

You are correct to say that not all users are addicts, but the majority of the drugs consumed are done so by addicts. This and many "hard" drugs more or less guarantee that people will get addicted and many people get addicted after using it just one time.

This is true. You can get addicted to cocaine after using it just one time. Same with many other drugs. They ruin people's lives.

Cocaine isn't physically addictive. So I guess you think people become psychologically dependent after wanting to ride on one night?
Being physically or psychologically addicted is the same thing from a public policy standpoint (they are different from a medial standpoint). Both kinds of addictions cause horrible problems with society, increase crime rates cost the government money, and ruin lives.

They are not the same thing from a public policy standpoint, unless public policy is poorly conceived.

They require different treatment programmes, and most that have psychological addictions continue to function in some form or other within society.

185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server on: September 08, 2014, 12:07:30 AM
If drugs are not available in the first place then people would never get addicted.

Drug availability isn't the cause of drug addiction.  Drug addiction is just a symptom of other psychological issues.  Regardless of how good one's intentions may be, drug availability can't be eliminated by politicians declaring war on drugs.  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You are correct to say that not all users are addicts, but the majority of the drugs consumed are done so by addicts. This and many "hard" drugs more or less guarantee that people will get addicted and many people get addicted after using it just one time.

You've been exposed to far too much propaganda.

It's a valid point, but availability causes those with a propensity to become addicted to drug X, to become addicted to it.

But you're right to dismiss the other post. If you don't crave altered states, not even heroin will light your fire.

Drug addiction is complicated, and very rarely, if ever, a problem merely due to physical dependency (hardly any drugs are physically addictive).

Cigarettes, alcohol, benzos are the hardest to kick. Heroin is hardish. But they are the ones that give withdrawal.

The rest are only hard insofar as they are pleasurable for some people and they can't imagine life without them.



You're terribly misinformed. Using drugs(especially Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, etc etc) over a long period of time creates a dependency on them. Some countries even give long-term drug addicts free drugs, because the Physical withdrawal they'd receive if they stopped taking the drugs would kill them.

There are some drugs that require a slow taper, like any type of benzos (xanax) Alcohol. But drugs like Heroine, Meth, cocaine, can be stopped, you wont die, but you will want to die if the reports are correct they are hell and you feel like dying.. but there are some drugs that you cannot stop cold turkey..some will doctors will want you to stay on some drugs while your pregnant as if you stop the baby will go into distress, so there are truths to both sides.. but in general, not too many drugs cant be stopped cold turkey..youll just feel like shit...

Heroin gives youa serious shit feeling, but 3 days later and you're through it.

Xanax is the worst, goes on for weeks, even on a taper. The worst benzo out there. But the doctor's drug of choice in the US. They should switch to Valium. Much smoother to taper.
186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server on: September 08, 2014, 12:01:56 AM
If drugs are not available in the first place then people would never get addicted.

Drug availability isn't the cause of drug addiction.  Drug addiction is just a symptom of other psychological issues.  Regardless of how good one's intentions may be, drug availability can't be eliminated by politicians declaring war on drugs.  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You are correct to say that not all users are addicts, but the majority of the drugs consumed are done so by addicts. This and many "hard" drugs more or less guarantee that people will get addicted and many people get addicted after using it just one time.

You've been exposed to far too much propaganda.

It's a valid point, but availability causes those with a propensity to become addicted to drug X, to become addicted to it.

But you're right to dismiss the other post. If you don't crave altered states, not even heroin will light your fire.

Drug addiction is complicated, and very rarely, if ever, a problem merely due to physical dependency (hardly any drugs are physically addictive).

Cigarettes, alcohol, benzos are the hardest to kick. Heroin is hardish. But they are the ones that give withdrawal.

The rest are only hard insofar as they are pleasurable for some people and they can't imagine life without them.



You're terribly misinformed. Using drugs(especially Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, etc etc) over a long period of time creates a dependency on them. Some countries even give long-term drug addicts free drugs, because the Physical withdrawal they'd receive if they stopped taking the drugs would kill them.

Some symptoms of withdrawal after short-term use include, anxiety or jumpiness; shakiness or trembling; sweating, nausea and vomiting; insomnia; depression; irritability; fatigue or loss of appetite and headaches.

Effects of withdrawal from Long-term use of heavy drugs can cause death.

What a stupid post. You've lumped "drugs" into a single category. Most mind-altering substances are not physically addictive. they can cause pain and anguish, the user can become irritable and anxious if access to them dries up. But as far as drugs causing physical addiction and leading to withdrawal, there are not many. Tobacco, alcohol, benzodiazapines and opiates are the ones that spring to mind.

All the above are available legally or by prescription.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server on: September 07, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
If it was not for drug dealers then drug users would never be able to get ahold of drugs, nor would they have ever gotten into using illegal drugs. Also drug dealers will often take advantage of a person's addiction and do things like extend credit and give a discount to a person who is unable to pay to prevent them from potentially breaking their habit.

As if people that support the war on drugs really give a shit about drug addicts.

Drug addiction isn't the problem, it's just a symptom.  That's why trying to take away the supply won't eliminate the demand.  Only counseling and treatment can do that.

Furthermore, not all drug users are drug addicts.  Many are recreational users with no danger of becoming addicted.
If drugs are not available in the first place then people would never get addicted.

You are correct to say that not all users are addicts, but the majority of the drugs consumed are done so by addicts. This and many "hard" drugs more or less guarantee that people will get addicted and many people get addicted after using it just one time.

This is true. You can get addicted to cocaine after using it just one time. Same with many other drugs. They ruin people's lives.

Cocaine isn't physically addictive. So I guess you think people become psychologically dependent after wanting to ride on one night?
188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server on: September 07, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
If drugs are not available in the first place then people would never get addicted.

Drug availability isn't the cause of drug addiction.  Drug addiction is just a symptom of other psychological issues.  Regardless of how good one's intentions may be, drug availability can't be eliminated by politicians declaring war on drugs.  The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You are correct to say that not all users are addicts, but the majority of the drugs consumed are done so by addicts. This and many "hard" drugs more or less guarantee that people will get addicted and many people get addicted after using it just one time.

You've been exposed to far too much propaganda.

It's a valid point, but availability causes those with a propensity to become addicted to drug X, to become addicted to it.

But you're right to dismiss the other post. If you don't crave altered states, not even heroin will light your fire.

Drug addiction is complicated, and very rarely, if ever, a problem merely due to physical dependency (hardly any drugs are physically addictive).

Cigarettes, alcohol, benzos are the hardest to kick. Heroin is hardish. But they are the ones that give withdrawal.

The rest are only hard insofar as they are pleasurable for some people and they can't imagine life without them.

189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to destroy Monero (XMR)? on: September 07, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
Why are people pushing the coin this hard when it has this many problems?

My previous long post answers this:

Fair launch. It is just so precious. And never before happened as well. So that the largest holders are not there by accident (or more likely planning by the dev), but because they wanted to buy a crappy coin at a high price. Monero's history is special.

Just tell me one example of a coin where the dev is not the largest owner.

I believe it is very good that the coins are not dev pet projects.

Quote
"Why is this coin not taking off when so many big names are supporting it"

I can only say that if something should happen, but has not yet happened, there is a good chance that it will happen.

Fallacy again using the modal verb "should". This is a tactic of the XMR people.

"if something should happen, but has not yet happened, there is a good chance that it will happen."

There is no "should" about it, no reason to believe it will do anything at all. You are bestowing it with an "end", like it can be measured. But this is impossible in crypto.

Actually, scrub the last comment. Of 1000 coins, only a handful have made a wave, and only bitcoin and perhaps litecoin have had a meaningful impact in market terms and popularity.

So if we throw "should" about, we have a duty (should) to use it properly. XMR should crash and burn, or just muddle along or disappear.
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to destroy Monero (XMR)? on: September 07, 2014, 01:13:07 AM
The volume was about 2-300 BTC a day on Poloniex for a few weeks, as was well documented on this forum.

To say nobody has made money on it, and quoting an average price is absurd, especially from someone regularly using market terms and speaking about XMR as if it was an exciting investment opportunity.



As you can see from the chart, there has been quite a large gulf between high and low. The volume today is being quoted as $120k  (which I believe is about average for the last month). The market cap is quoted as $6,3m, which is quite a bit higher than the $2m it it was valued at in May.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/

So either people have made a bundle, or the trading has been fake.


I agree. OP is plain wrong on that point.

Market cap though is determined by coin quantity too which has increased massively since May. Even if price did remain the same, the market cap still would have increased significantly.

On the first exchange you could buy/sell XMR on the price was hovering around 10. But the trade volume was low. It's around 40 now. That 4 times increase is a nice gain but pales in comparison to what I have made off other coins that I bought early that went on to be winners.

The point OP is trying to make is the coin is fairer than most coins.



Okay, Mr Random, you're right about the coin market cap.

In saying that, I'm not sure how much XMR is being introduced daily by miners. the last time I bought some it was quite a bit cheaper, and i sold it at about 10% profit.

I find the figures quite staggering at Poloniex, but it seems to be dropping off a bit. So we either watch it decline or burst back. XMR does not strike me as a coin to just muddle along at average price.

191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to destroy Monero (XMR)? on: September 07, 2014, 12:44:54 AM
The volume was about 2-300 BTC a day on Poloniex for a few weeks, as was well documented on this forum.

To say nobody has made money on it, and quoting an average price is absurd, especially from someone regularly using market terms and speaking about XMR as if it was an exciting investment opportunity.



As you can see from the chart, there has been quite a large gulf between high and low. The volume today is being quoted as $120k  (which I believe is about average for the last month). The market cap is quoted as $6,3m, which is quite a bit higher than the $2m it it was valued at in May.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/

So either people have made a bundle, or the trading has been fake.
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Yet another self-moderated XMR thread on: September 06, 2014, 11:14:12 PM
if the last one is anything to go by, don't even bother responding, you'll be deleted anyway.

This one might be good to talk about "holdings" and "leverage"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=771925.0
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm working on a new coin. How do I release it properly? on: September 06, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
25% premine for yourself is a must! but only state it's a 5% premine. Do not have all the features in at once. Pretend to "develop" them over time to pump the price and dump your premine.

talk about it like it is about to be floated on the stock exchange, and grab a shill with a made-up past and the ability to read and recite from an A-Z of Economics to help pull in the punters.
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam on: September 06, 2014, 10:58:55 PM
This is just what he admits too.  I would consider it to be much more.
11 mins ago   rpietila   Somebody wanted to know this so here you go - my xmr trading since it first hit 470 (about 1.5days ago)
10 mins ago   rpietila   has made 1.6 btc profit before fees

Remember having said that. Right after the others were asking if I really don't have better things to do than spending 1.5 days glued to the keyboard to earn about €500. I needed to defend myself saying that if I did not, the Monero liquidity would be much less than it is now, and proceeded by saying that 35% of the bids above the recent bottom were actually mine, because nobody else had had time to fill his.

I have also had 25% of the bids in BTC China, and there we were talking about 50x bigger money.

Monero to me is currently nothing that I plan to support me financially. I support Monero, with providing support to the devs, liquidity to the markets, marketing, even technology.

But the enemies are trembling - Monero is like a battle line where the largest battleships of Bitcoin are taking their place, loaded and constantly loading with more coins, ready to unleash the financial privacy upon everyone who might be interested.



You're full of it, and as convincing as a Bridge Salesman in London.

But people fall for it ... so very sad
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How should I release 100% premine coin? on: September 06, 2014, 10:48:20 PM
make a website, you can't hold a giveaway here, and hand it out.

Nobody has done a giveaway before that has been worth anything.

Try and monitor IP addresses, but otherwise be generous. Try and get rid of 90% within a couple of weeks.

It will pay off.

*Edit: less than 200 people holding will get you to an exchange in no time.

**Edit: but of course your goal is not explicit. If you want to make money, follow the above. If you want to make a coin work, spread it around to more people but just as quickly. Don't let people get bored waiting for a few coin-crumbs.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Monero reach .1 btc in 2015? on: September 06, 2014, 10:44:28 PM
no, it won't hit 0.1 btc, it has peaked already. Maybe it will get a Cryptsy pump, but after that it's finished.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 06, 2014, 12:44:18 AM
The art of assertion, is the weapon of the shills and simpletons supporting XMR.

Broken code, suspicious volume on tiny exchange, price dropping, constant comparison with BTC rather than the other 1000 alts, and a sudo-economist stirring it up.

Oh My God.

*Edit ... and the appearance of hero members, all of a sudden, many of which have quite different posting styles in their history.

198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 06, 2014, 12:41:26 AM
Would love to see some more statistics from rpietila. This man is incredible regarding statistics and other measures to value a coin.

Isn't he just, he could be the leading sudo-economist on Bitcointalk.

199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 04, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
Looks like some folks just got a lot of cheap Monero!

It was dropping yesterday before this incident, so they've not really got a lot of cheap Monero.

More like panic bought a lot of Monero.

Was dumped to +- 0.00375 and went straight up again, I think he meant that Smiley

Yep. Panic dumping out of fear is ALWAYS a bad idea. I watched it happen with BTC on the March 2013 hard fork, the SR crash, and all of the mini panics when Gox was freezing up all the time. This is reminiscent of those times.

Yeah, those that panic sold BTC at $500-1300 must be kicking themselves.

There is a clear difference between this (where the issue was solved) and when the BTC Bubble popped (actually bad news).

Actually I think this attack did more good to monero than bad, some external consultants were hired to resolve the issue and look at the code. Probably more bad or sloppy code was found which can be fixed now.

A difference which you have not explained.

Rikke, why do you have so much hate for XMR?

Fair question, so I'll answer it honestly.

I think it's a scamcoin being pushed by a handful of people. I think there is a strategy and goal, and so far it is going well.
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: September 04, 2014, 10:58:11 PM
Looks like some folks just got a lot of cheap Monero!

It was dropping yesterday before this incident, so they've not really got a lot of cheap Monero.

More like panic bought a lot of Monero.

Was dumped to +- 0.00375 and went straight up again, I think he meant that Smiley

Yep. Panic dumping out of fear is ALWAYS a bad idea. I watched it happen with BTC on the March 2013 hard fork, the SR crash, and all of the mini panics when Gox was freezing up all the time. This is reminiscent of those times.

Yeah, those that panic sold BTC at $500-1300 must be kicking themselves.

March 2013 hard fork caused most people to panic sell in the $30s. Yes they are kicking themselves.
SR crash caused most people to panic sell in the $80 - 120 range. Yes they are kicking themselves.
All of the times GOX froze were before they upgraded their trading engine which was before the October rally began. Those little panic sales were also a bad idea.

I just mean when a minor issue occurs, newbs think that price is going to drop like a rock and not recover for a while. They think they'll have a chance to pick up coins later for cheaper. It almost never happens that way, because those that understand that the fundamentals have not been irrecoverably damaged buy all of their discounted coins. This just happened with XMR, although the panic was not as bad as I had expected.

You're picking out moments in time, and you have no clear evidence that XMR is not priced high already. It is still just another alt, not even traded on Cryptsy. The panic sellers are probably right. Sometimes panic is good. There is no reason for panic sellers to take a risk and hold given XMR is young, not widely adopted, has broken code, and is one among 1000 altcoins.
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