What is going on in the world? Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights. http://rt.com/usa/chase-ceo-bitcoin-terrible-downfall-100/hmmmm...chase ceo (bank firm) says bitcoin is a scam.....hmmmm....why in the world would any one be surprised by that viewpoint from them? decentralized power is always a problem to those who have centralized power (just ask AT&T) Huh.. yeah exactly. I was reading this and my irlfriend came in and said 'Uh-oh.. what he's saying is bad for bitcoin'.. before i politely pointed out that he is from a bank (JP Morgan?) and if he's saying bitcoin = bad.. then this means the oppositte. This is exacly what i'd expect him to say.. and that whatever he says about bitcoin, then she can believe the opposite.
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I think this could take ~ 2 weeks to play out. 2 weeks from today is 7th Feb. I'm finding it hard to be patient and wait til then to see what happens, but i must. Damn nearly bought at 800 last night. I expect to see it botto out somewhere in the range $500 - $600 but only temporarily. It should recover quickly, so one would have to be fast to catch the bottom - or pick you price and place you orders, and hope for the best.
I've been hearing that for days from several different people. Where do you get this? I'll be buying the whole way down if you're right, but they seem pretty damn cheap right now. Hpmmm.. just my own observations. Inciddenty, i have been expecting this since the beginning of the year. I think there is money sitting on the sidelines, and people seem to be waiting to see what happens in China on the 31st. Market seemed to be kept artificially high by trading bots.. keeping it high in order to dump?? These are just some of the indicators i'm going by. These and a healthy dose of wishful thinknig. Anway.. looks to be rebounding now. Support at ~$776 A crash that big would be bad for Bitcoin and scare away new investors and more importantly merchants. I believe in this thing and I want it to succeed in the long run, not just make short term money. Of course making money is good too, but it's not my top priority. But maybe a slower adoption rate is better. Most people couldn't handle these swings. That's why there's more slot machines than chairs at the no limit table. Texas Hodl 'em! In a way i agree with you. It may not even drop that low and if it does it won't stay there for very long. Might not even see $600. And anything below this is a bit of wishful thinking on my part. I'm not looking for short term profit either. I have money waiting on stamp, and i'm trying to get as many coins as possible for this money. More coins the better in the long term. So this is why i'm willing it to go down a bit more. Greed on my part, i'll admit, but not short term greed. I Just want more coins, cheaper prices means more coins.
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I think this could take ~ 2 weeks to play out. 2 weeks from today is 7th Feb. I'm finding it hard to be patient and wait til then to see what happens, but i must. Damn nearly bought at 800 last night. I expect to see it botto out somewhere in the range $500 - $600 but only temporarily. It should recover quickly, so one would have to be fast to catch the bottom - or pick you price and place you orders, and hope for the best.
I've been hearing that for days from several different people. Where do you get this? I'll be buying the whole way down if you're right, but they seem pretty damn cheap right now. Hpmmm.. just my own observations. Inciddenty, i have been expecting this since the beginning of the year. I think there is money sitting on the sidelines, and people seem to be waiting to see what happens in China on the 31st. Market seemed to be kept artificially high by trading bots.. keeping it high in order to dump?? These are just some of the indicators i'm going by. These and a healthy dose of wishful thinknig. Anway.. looks to be rebounding now. Support at ~$776
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price will fall further we didn't touch bottom yet but is good for us, chances to buy cheap coins and later take profit when market recovers. I predict that we will be near ATH sooner than anyone here expect (mid , late Feb )
+1 $495 - $550 on Stamp i reckon is the bottom. Then quickly recover and climb to previous ATH within 2 weeks.. and keep going! ~$2000 by start of March!
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I think this could take ~ 2 weeks to play out. 2 weeks from today is 7th Feb. I'm finding it hard to be patient and wait til then to see what happens, but i must. Damn nearly bought at 800 last night. I expect to see it botto out somewhere in the range $500 - $600 but only temporarily. It should recover quickly, so one would have to be fast to catch the bottom - or pick you price and place you orders, and hope for the best.
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Anyone clued up on bitcoin, or that has been following it for at least a while, knows that the China question is like the elephant in the room. I think a lot of people, me included are hodling off to see how that plays out.
I agree that it is ridiculous that so much importance is given to China and what will/will not happen there. For me, China is just one aspect of it. I wasn't convinced that the bubble pop had fully played out, and still expected up to re-visit ~$500 on stamp before rebounding and moving back up. So, i'm taking a patient wait and see approach. It will be interesting to observe the market around 31st.. and the first week or so of Feb. I've got my fiat waiting on stamp to take advantage.
this. everyone is doing this. and selling doggy coins, if they have any. But... but... if everyone sold waiting for the price to drop so they can buy back in, won't the market move in the opposite direction? not necessarily. is everyone going to buy back higher or just cash out the profits... this could be one of those times where going down is beneficial on the long term. we will sucker in more people into buying if it gose down. if it only ever gose up, you can bet your ass that the coins are simply being bought up by a handful of billionaires idk maybe.... please go down PLEASE! i'm begging at this point.... I think it's a waiting game, but at least we know it's only another week (or two) to wait. Not an indefinite wait. The market will give up clues as to what it'S decided and people will act. I personally would LOVE to see a dip to anywhere between $450 - $650.. i have been waiting.. but i like everone else will decide in early Feb, when the market does!
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In what ways do you intend to make an impact on the world?
What in the world needs impacting? Buy North Korea. Don't have to manage it. Put it under South Korean management. Samsung maybe. You may laugh, but if it can be sold, it can be bought. And control is sufficiently central that it would not take many parties to agree to a sale. A stick as well as a carrot would help, but I'm not in that business. North Korea needs help. Much of the world needs help. As individuals we can only make small differences it seems. I personally am in the process of planning for a trip to India this coming Fall. I, along with a group of women, will be going and working with a Christian organization called Harvest India doing some humanitarian work (paying for water wells, feeding the hungry, spending time with the orphans, bringing funds for the continued help and rehabilitation of those sold into prostitution). That said, any donations are welcome! I am planning on selling some of my coins to pay my share but there is so much work to do there that I would love to have even more. I was thinking it would be cool to pay for a water well (or two or three!) with Bitcointalk donations and then take pictures during the dedication ceremony and posting it on here. They make a plaque that says who paid for it and I could put "Bitcoin Forum Community" or something like that. Just thinking. That's quite inspirational BitChick - and a reall good thing you're doing there. I've often thought about doing some development work myself. I will make a msall BTC donation closer to the time and when you have it all organised and it's a 100% 'a-go' I think you would get plenty of small donations from here. Great idea, and great to see someone giving something back. As nice as it is to talk in these terms though, i feel we're derailing the thread. I wondered if anyone has some TA insight into where we are now? Most theories I've seen bandied around are predicting sideway trading. I myself was thinking along the lines of Rpietila's thoughts (that' why i liked this thread, his predictions were close to mine). But my faith in this has been shaken a little, as the market looks like it doesn't know what it wants, and also, i thought we'd be moving downwards a little quicker than this. Also you've got low volume, yet we're not dropping, and seem to have support around 800-810 stamp. To cloud the view even further, someone speculated that we could be in a 'ending diagonal' phase. My own personal take on it all, is patience / wait and see. I think a lot of people are similar too. I'm waiting to see what effect China post Jan 31st will have. My predictions might still come true after all, but maybe a lot slower than i thought. And with so much rumoured bullish news in the pipeline, we probably won't see the drop to ~$495 like i was initially expecting. So, between $500-600 (Stamp) is my buy-zone.
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BitPay are about to announce another major retailer accepting Bitcoin. That's why I am full BTC right now.
Sadly enough it most likely will do nothing to the price at this. People are extremely afraid. They don't even seem to care about good news anymore. It's like they're waiting for the tiniest bad so they can panic dump. Newegg accepting Bitcoin - everybody is like ok, whatever Someone in China puts out a tweet just saying the word bank account and everybody shits his pants and panic sells. I'm not sure what these people are waiting for exactly. They just want the price to magically go up without any risk of losing a penny i think. Not sure. I think it's what you would call market sentiment. Anyone clued up on bitcoin, or that has been following it for at least a while, knows that the China question is like the elephant in the room. I think a lot of people, me included are hodling off to see how that plays out. I agree that it is ridiculous that so much importance is given to China and what will/will not happen there. For me, China is just one aspect of it. I wasn't convinced that the bubble pop had fully played out, and still expected up to re-visit ~$500 on stamp before rebounding and moving back up. So, i'm taking a patient wait and see approach. It will be interesting to observe the market around 31st.. and the first week or so of Feb. I've got my fiat waiting on stamp to take advantage.
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Then move ten miles out of town and live a better life.
1 million dollars is an exceptionally sweet cushion in the firstest of first world countries. You'd be leagues ahead of 95% of the population. Most people I know in the UK would be on the street within 1-4 weeks of their wage or benefits being cut off.
Elsewhere in the world that's the type of figure that could set up generations for comfortable lives. It's an amount of money that deserves a little more respect even when it's being inflated into oblivion.
I would agree with this. If managed properly, and not just seen as 10 years of $100,000 p.a. - then it could set you up for life and you'd end up with more than the million you started with. What about starting a small (but ambitious) buisness. What about investing some of that into property, to give guarenteed lasting returns? There are many approaches you could take. But to think that people would just deposit $1M in the bank account, and then draw it down until it was all gone without using it to better themselves in some way is misplaced i think.
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BitPay are about to announce another major retailer accepting Bitcoin. That's why I am full BTC right now.
Source? I speculate that it might be (just might be) newegg... time will tell.
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... It's tough at the top? ... ..And it's twice as tough at the bottom!
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"... a european bitcoin foundation is in the making.."
This taken from the french thing going on now? I'm at work, so can't exactly watch it. Glued to this thread for my updates.
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@ this rate we may be testing 600 lolz
Not quite yet hopefully! Waiting for my transfer through to Bearstamp.. hopefully there in the morning.
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Lovin your work Arepo.. great thread. Posting here so it's bookmarked and i can keep an eye on it.
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Is this the bottom or we just stopping to let some ppl off before we continue down? The charts indicate still going down, am I reading that right?
I think it depends on the upcoming news, so far it has more of a "silkroad closed" vibe than a "china bans bitcoin" vibe I'm famaliar with what happened after the China news (that helped me to increase my coin) but not with what happened after the silkroad situation. Can I ask what happened? People panic sold after they heard Silkroad closed down. It resulted in a flashcrash, which showed heavy support. In my opinion one of the triggers for the november rally. +1 - this was one catalyst for it.
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Cool thread, I'm posting here for bookmarking purposes.
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Can anyone post a link to rpietila's trendlines that are often referenced here? I can't seem to find them. Might be handy to have them in the OP.
+1 - I'd like to see them as well.
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Nice thread, enjoyed reading so far. Glad I read it now, as it has re-enforced some of my own predictions/feelings on this past 'rally' - during which i did panic buy at ~$830 Sold now, as things are looking to be turning bearish IMO - and hope we see below 800 or 750. Posting this so it is bookmarked for me.
Hopefully you didn't sell all your holdings, always keep the bulk in cold storage. Of course! Perhaps i should have added I only trade with around 15% - the rest is of course in cold storage, and I'm not even going to touch it (for a long time yet), no matter how tempting it may be to increase profits by upping the multiplyer. I'll hopefully make some smart trades and this will follow in course.
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Nice thread, enjoyed reading so far. Glad I read it now, as it has re-enforced some of my own predictions/feelings on this past 'rally' - during which i did panic buy at ~$830 Sold now, as things are looking to be turning bearish IMO - and hope we see below 800 or 750. Posting this so it is bookmarked for me.
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