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1801  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC on the rise again ! on: July 13, 2015, 09:43:15 AM
Let's wait the august mount
At the end of august btc will have at last 500 usd or more
Just wait and you will see.

On What metric / hallucinogenic are you on/using, there buddy to back up your claim of  500 a bitcoin in August 2015? Or will it be a low volume pump upward to 500? how do you mark that trend? Please explain rationally / logically.

You put glue and diesel in a bong and pump butaine in it and.....
1802  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the Greece verdict? on: July 13, 2015, 01:42:39 AM
If the US has money they just print more (Quantative easing).
Since the whole world has dollars and oil is priced in dollars, printing money screws over everyone in the world.
1803  Economy / Speculation / Re: WE JUST HIT $300 BULLMARKET CONFIRMED! (Now for real..) on: July 13, 2015, 01:31:58 AM

If he instamined 100000 coins he did a better job than most here Wink
1804  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the Greece verdict? on: July 13, 2015, 01:29:01 AM
I do agree that the Greek people are getting screwed over but it's not by the EU but through their own government.

They got screwed by rich bankers who convinced the Greek government to take their huge loans and taught them how to hide their debt. It would have worked out well if we didn't have the other big screw up by the banks in 2008 which lead to a world wide financial crisis and that's why Greece suddenly found themselves in a big mess. The problem here is not the Greek government but the corrupt banking system itself who took on too much risk and then let others take the blame and loss for it if things go wrong. We have let the banks turn into monsters, and as long as we keep on bailing them out and piling debt on more debt this monster will keep on growing and destroy everything we hold dear. Greece is just an unfortunate scapegoat caught in the middle of all this.

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How would you help a country if not through the banking system? Banks are required to have businesses start or being run. Banks are required for people to buy houses, etc. Banks == Economy.

Time to start thinking outside of the box and realize we've been doing things all wrong the whole time. The banking system needs to be reformed and fractional reserve banking should be abolished. Nobody should be able to lend money to others they don't actually have, as this lies at the very heart of all these problems. Banks should not be the primary economic driver on which everything depends, we need a real economy based on real goods and services not an economy based on credit and making money from money. It's crazy. The financial industry has become way too big for our own good, and sticking our heads in the sand and continue on our old ways will only make matters worse later on. Greece has to draw a line in the sand now and I hope they pull through.


You are right that the banking system is corrupt. I believe that Greece is the first to fall and many might follow.
Bankers should be personally held responsible if they f**k it up.

Since money is an IOY I do believe that making them have an extremely high percentage of liquidity would be a good thing.
However I don't believe 100% backing of money is a good way to goin our current economy. Making liquidity 20 to 50% and assigning an external supervisor would be a good start towards the 100% backing goal.

If 100% liquidity would be required then the US would be instantly bankrupt Cheesy
China and EU aswell ofcourse Wink

Is bitcoin the solution? MAYBE but it will take a few decades to introduce it.
1805  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the Greece verdict? on: July 12, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
Poor Greeks: After the EU raped them for years (they only helped the banks, not the folks, but the poor people had to suffer), now the poor people invest in Bitcoin and will get eaten and raped by some greedy assholes as soon as the price hits some high values. This world is so sad and fucked up.

I find your post misleading and more negative towards the EU than necessary.

The Greek joined the EU and in 2009/2010 they came forth with the fact that their financial problems were bigger then they had previously mentioned. They had withheld information so they could join the EU.
The EU told them to get their shit together and healthy and gave them a loan of €52,900,000,000,000.

The only thing the EU asked was
 - Increase VAT;
 - Cut down on government salary and pensions;
 - Collect taxes (Yes they weren't bothered to do that ... );
 - Restructure the job market;
 - Increase pension age;

Greek raped themselves by giving people high-pay government jobs and absurd pension plans.
In greece pension age is 57 whereas countries like the Netherlands it is 67.

Since the Greek refuse to clean house why would the EU throw money into that pit?!?
And why is it that the EU screwing over Greece? If they would have been upfront with their financial problems they wouldn't be allowed to join the EU.
They can leave if they want to but they will be filing bankruptcy pretty soon...


I do agree that the Greek people are getting screwed over but it's not by the EU but through their own government.

How would you help a country if not through the banking system? Banks are required to have businesses start or being run. Banks are required for people to buy houses, etc. Banks == Economy.
1806  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 bitcoins. Will I be a millionaire by 2020? on: July 12, 2015, 11:45:51 AM
If you did cash out a million dollars to your bank account, aren't there some legal/technical issues to consider, right?

No taxation in Germany, if you hold your bitcoins longer than 12 months.

How about Holland?

It's value in money is taxable like money on hand, gold or other valuables.
If you have more than €21330 (or when married €42660) you have to declare it and pay 1.2% tax.

Since you declare tax once in 12 months you might hit a break if value of bitcoin drops at that time Smiley.

P.S. I'm no tax expert.
1807  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price Surge! $260 to $293 on: July 11, 2015, 11:07:04 AM
Can anyone tell me what the sudden $30 surge in the price of bitcoin was caused by??

I put in a market order  Cool


Probably the greek government officials got some bitcoin to guarantee their yearly bonus Cheesy
1808  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will we hit $300 on: July 10, 2015, 11:12:07 PM
Looking at the current 3d log chart I would estimate it hitting a stable $300 in 9 to 12 days.
1809  Economy / Speculation / Re: WTF is happening??? on: July 10, 2015, 11:10:18 PM
Price is not stable as much, but i am a bit surprised about this pump. a huge step for me at least Tongue
Current price: 286.36$

Just a shame that I set my sell orders for ltc at 0.042, which I anticipated would be possible Sad ltc will probably rebound again though, if the Chinese are not done with their ponzi yet..

Me to bro. I had a nice set of sell orders from 0.032 to 0.045. Too bad they didn't trigger. Let's hope for the rebound  Cool
1810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Soooo.. when is gimini launching? on: July 10, 2015, 11:06:01 PM
Those twins told us a month ago that it will launch within 2 weeks.
 Huh

Gox is also still promising to pay back everyone Wink


The first rule of bitcoin is not to trust anyone in bitcoin!!!
1811  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will we hit $300 on: July 10, 2015, 11:03:06 PM
Just before we hit $301  Wink
1812  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you were Greek, would you buy BTC when the banks open next week? on: July 10, 2015, 11:02:28 PM
Why is it that every good or bad thing is being correlated to the bitcoin price....  Huh
1813  Economy / Speculation / Re: NEXT 48H ARE CRITICAL!!!!!!!! on: July 10, 2015, 07:11:03 PM
THIS IS BITCOIN!!!!!!
1814  Economy / Speculation / Re: WTF is happening??? on: July 10, 2015, 12:12:54 PM
We hit the bollinger band on the 1w logarithmic chart.
This has not happened since Bitcoin wen't to the M00N!!!

If this sustains we will all be rich  Cool
1815  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why are the breaks on ? on: July 09, 2015, 06:31:13 PM
Because throwing in a few $100 doesn't move the market...
Because bitcoin is not in the news at the moment...

Once the big guns (like chinese kamikaze traders) come in to play then we will see a frenzy.
1816  Economy / Speculation / Re: 4000$ bitcoins in 4 months on: July 09, 2015, 06:22:34 PM
If the upper bollingerband on the weekly logarithmic chart hits (and sustains) we will be in for a M00N phase.
$4000 is high but I would not be surprised to see it peak as high as that.

Le't look back in 4 months Smiley
1817  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 bitcoins. Will I be a millionaire by 2020? on: July 06, 2015, 09:38:10 PM
The more I think about it  kinda don't see how BTC won't at least bubble over 10K at least in the next 5 years.

same, but what i believe is that 10k is tiny and it could be reached in the next year, with all the premises that we have right now

10k isn't tiny and it's not going to go there anytime soon especially not this year. What makes you think it will go to 10k? There would need to be huge adoption for that to happen and aside from this little price hike that we've had recently bitcoin has been doing pretty poorly price wise over the past year or so.

10k might be possible if the stock market drives it there. Currently it's too volatile and not enough adoption.

I don't see it otherwise happening unless the dollar hyper-inflates.
1818  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to cash out 500k euro? on: July 06, 2015, 09:31:55 PM
TS why not just ask how to launder 500k of bitcoin...  Wink

As said on this forum, there are of course methods to do this but if you get caught you will end up in jail or lose most if not all of it (best case).

The best way is to declare them as taxable income (if they go above the required threshold applicable to your country).
Since the bitcoin is now at a low price it is a good thing to do so.
If the price goes way up then you might have to pay quite some tax but you will be 100% legal in claiming the profits through any channel you like.
1819  Economy / Speculation / Re: Weekly Parabolic SAR just turned bullish on: July 05, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
I think Greece is overrated.

But as long as people are betting on it to have an influence, it might influence the price, even if no greek people buy bitcoin.
1820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Weekly Parabolic SAR just turned bullish on: July 05, 2015, 01:45:50 PM
And that will be just the first wave.  Wink

I did a few edits to my post for correctness.

If you mean wave as in going from $120 to $1100 then there are two ways of looking at it.

1. More people know about bitcoin and will invest and thus it will go >$3000.
2. Not enough money and crazy people so second wave will be lower.

Any way I'm in here for the long run Smiley
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