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3001  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: March 14, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
Many investment site now are scam so i think much better you can stored it to your wallet and wait the bitcoin price going up than to invest it. In investing you can lose it and its hard to take risk so keep it and be patience to wait the bitcoin goes to rocket.
Bitcoin is the best investment for the investor itself. I will agree with all of your said because most of the investment places are very risky with various chance to get lost all of your money. and i think the bitcoin will become the number one of the investment place.
That's true when you figure it out by your self you can be an investors when you are earning and investing tone of money in digital currency I had client who are doing business with bitcoin and they had company where they also mining coins. Investment can be risky when you don't analyzing things then you will lose that money but we can't earn when don't risk when we lose then make this as lesson be wiser next time.

Yes that's true experience and proper market research is everything it's the matter of in-depth knowledge you have about the bitcoin and the understanding of the market which plays a vital role it could either make you or break you depending on your knowledge. Investment is always a risk factor but once you have better understanding of the market trend then trust me it will be very fruitful.
Yeah, investing without any knowledge is like signing your death wish, I see a lot of people doing this mistake and complaining about investing is not a good idea and they are scams, that is only because they don’t even bother any research they just put money and expect to get profit immediately.
3002  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN IS BETTER THAN WESTERN UNION ? on: March 14, 2017, 05:23:19 PM
Bitcoin is much better than Western Union but it still needs lot more time to gain the trust of common man. The current number of Bitcoin users is climbing up steadily. There are large number of people who can't handle Bitcoin properly and have fear. I think old payment processors have no big immediate threat from Bitcoin though it is more cost effective and faster than those.

I agree with you, many people just do not know the bitcoins. And many still do not trust crypto currency. But the situation is changing day by day. I'm sure that soon many will start using bitcoin in their lives
i think there is a big difference between the two. bitcoin is a currency and Western union is not a currency but only the way of transferring money from one place to another.  currently bitcoin is using as investment and giving chances to people to make money from investing in bitcoin. while in some place bitcoin is also using as currency even in local shops for shopping.
I think you are wrong, although they might not share the same idea but they are similar in theory, people use bitcoin as a way of sending and receiving money because its value increases every day which makes it an investment, and they also use western union to send and receive money, the chose bitcoin over western union because it is safer and takes less fee and less time.
3003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: March 14, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
I don't think trading is better than gambling. That is just an illusion which is created. People who do trading think they know the financial news and what impact will they have on the market and think this is easy so let's try. When they start trading though, soon they realize this is just as gambling and the major part is out of their hands or their skills. Traders confuses luck with skill far more often than gamblers do, at least gamblers are aware not everything is in their power, traders are more lunatic if you ask me. In both areas, trading and gambling chances are high someone loses in the long run.

Trading is not really gambling. Depends on what you trade, if you trade mostly on altcoin then it is not really a gamble because most are being manipulated so it is not really pure luck anymore. It might be different with some other type of trading pair. Gambling depends on pure luck so it totally different
Trading requires a lot of work, a lot of research and a lot of experience and knowledge of the market, unlike gambling that requires nothing and has nothing to do with skill it is all about luck and luck only even if you gamble for 5 years or it is your first time gambling there is no deference, but there is a difference between and experienced trader and a new trader.
3004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: March 14, 2017, 10:42:43 AM
For me, gambling is one type activity which we can refresh our mind and lose all the tension while playing, though losing I won't bother much about it.
When you are not worrying about your gambling losses, you can certainly get your preferred results from gambling for sure.

I find your definition of gambling is not contradicting your way of gambling. I mean some gamblers accept gambling for fun but they are not ready to lose anything. We must gamble for some purposes and we need to make our mind set suitable for that purpose then we can surely enjoy the gambling.
3005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you like 0% house edge casino games? on: March 14, 2017, 10:24:24 AM
Do you like 0% house edge games? I think yes, it is most possible to profit money and pure luck and strategy game, no more pressure from houses any more.
Yes like any gambler, it is a dream to have zero house edge but I just wonder, from where the house will find its survival income generations ? Probably this zero edge is possible just because of their own cryptocurrency tokens ?

I visualize this concept like we need to deposit our money into a gambling house then they will issue some credits. Using those credits I can gamble against them with zero edge, am I right ?
3006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Whether anyone believe???? on: March 14, 2017, 07:37:37 AM
the chance will be so small if you buying the same number continuously but probably someday that number will be your lucky number but the questions is how long it takes untill reach those number because on lottery nothing to sure and indeed i have been read the story such as this that there was a person did as you says but it took decades until he won the lottery
Took decades ? It must be so earlier than what I calculated. The probability theory will not assure that we could win for sure if we buy same number in a lottery. So, only by assumptions we may use this strategy.

I do think instead of following this strategy just going by random would be more better option as it may work at any time and with the any number.
3007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In what situation would Bitcoin die? on: March 13, 2017, 06:36:26 PM
But what is the defenition of Bitcoin being dead? Just no miners and no buy or sell power? Who desides what the defenition are as it will always be available it's just up to us, the people.

It will never die in my defenition atleast.
Well technically the death of bitcoins means " there's no worth of bitcoins in the market" because then only the miners would stop, the gambling sites would stop and everything would come to a halt. The question here though is that since no one controls all the bitcoins then how can the value decrease to a zero value ? Impossible !
3008  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is no longer a currency on: March 13, 2017, 11:25:25 AM
I doubt that bitcoin is not a currency because if bitcoin is not currency then why we are able to spend our bitcoins in doing transactions or using it as an exchange for a particular item. Bitcoin is a currency and also investment/asset at the same time and there is no doubt that we considered it as a currency because it has a value and we can use it to do a lot of things including buying items online and even offline.
Bitcoins is virtually a currency but all the guys that introduced me to bitcoins always call it asset. They always say that bitcoins is virtual gold that's price changes often when the market demand more.
But there are 25+ sites that I myself know who accept bitcoins as payment and there are big ones too like skrill and neteller !
3009  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best way to cashout your bitcoin now? on: March 13, 2017, 08:10:12 AM
Localbitcoins is the best option all over the world.If you know a person dealing in bitcoins,you could directly sell to him.
Yeah I agree so. However, if your local area supports Bitcoin, I bet that they have created many different platforms in order to help people transfer, sell and buy Bitcoin online with local people. Moreover, with these platforms, it will be much easier for people to communicate in the same language and problems will be solved quickly
There are no real problems when selling bitcoins because it's pretty straightforward that we give them bitcoins and they pay us money. The only problem is the trust factor that can be avoided using a escrow, for example escrow holds the coins and once the sellers confirms he got payment to his bank the escrow then releases bitcoins.
3010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: March 09, 2017, 03:51:42 PM
The answer to this thread is that it is hard to tell especially if the casino has been there for quite some time already.
But when people start facing problems with those long running gambling site, they will start scam accusation against them everywhere. When we are referring this forum on choosing a gambling site definitely we could come across those reviews and we could easily avoid them.

Just referring people would be the easiest way to find and avoid scam gambling sites.
3011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: March 09, 2017, 03:28:34 PM
I don't think so that gambling helped me a lot in my life. Well because of gambling, I owned now my dream phone, I know I can convert this to cash but I don't want that option. Gambling only helps me with my wants and not yet my needs. It can help me if I won a really big amount.
Well, you can push your luck harder if you want to consider gambling as you needs provider. That is possible mate, and the fact that you have succeeded making money most of the time, your chances is standing great to be profitable in gambling.
Lucky for you since you got your phone from gambling, me I sold my phone because of gambling and that is not a fun experience.
Seems he must be an exceptional gambler to have some profits from gambling. I'm not seeing any of my friends are making profit from gambling rather than I do hear only lossing stories every day.

Yes, it is really very rare finding people got help from gambling. Moreover I'm not ready to believe those people because they have won on their extreme lucky day and they would have never tried gambling after that.

People will keep on playing gambling would never find any help from gambling for sure.
3012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: March 09, 2017, 03:10:06 PM
I consider bingo as a gambling because it also involves money, you may either win or lose. Yeah I know it is unsual to everybody here but if you ask me what is my favorite game? I would always choose bingo game. Its a lot of fun indeed. Playing it is stress free and no pressure.
Where you are playing that bingo game ? I really love to experience when people are coming with new innovative gambling types. Is it possible to gamble there with the bitcoin or you are just gambling in your local currency ?

If you share the website information where you are gambling with bingo, I guess it will be more useful for many gamblers here. I just google but I am getting some card game related sites only.
3013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are dice sites reliable? on: March 08, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
Most of the dice sites in bitcoin are quite good to play, and I think the good place for us to do play a dice games was is in the fortune jack gambling site.
I think that some internet casinos use some kind of system that makes you lose at some point when rolling dice because some people use a certain method to always win, so I don’t trust any casino at least in this type of games, but if you really are into this you can go to direct bet it is a really good and trustful site.
3014  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I educate myself on bitcoin for investing? on: March 08, 2017, 10:13:46 PM
learning from books is just for fundamental purpose only. After that we need to practice intensively in live market with small capital to gain rest of knowledge.
Instead of practising in live market with small investment, we can choose trail accounts for learning purposes.

There would be no argument about practising in market to gain experience because just learning from books will not help any trader to groom as a professional trader. We must need live experience so that we can make right decisions when market shows unexpected movements.
3015  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: March 08, 2017, 09:37:35 PM
Main target is to end every trading session with profit, and that's it. More can you not expect from something so unpredictable.
I agree, in trading finishing up a trade with profits itself must be a very big achievement and hence we cannot expect to perform this for each and every trade so that we could have fixed income from trading. Even professional traders are facing losses and hence we cannot expect a regular income stream out of trading all the times.
3016  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: March 08, 2017, 08:44:43 PM
actually i do not believe on it and the other thing is that i do not feel satisfaction while using bot, i think like to use the manual way in gambling.
For both trading and gambling, there are bots which can be used up to some levels like we need not relaying them completely. They will simplify your routine tasks but your decision is needed to finalize a trade or bet. When you are completely believing into one bot, there will be zero chances to get full satisfaction. It is obvious that you cannot expect a bot to work perfect as per your expectations.
3017  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know about next pump? on: March 08, 2017, 03:56:20 PM
When one coin is being controlled by some group of people, I believe staying away from it would be the right choice instead of risking against those group. We cannot be sure when they start booking profit after their pumps.

It would be highly recommended not to touch those coins and choosing high volume and high market cap coins would be the precautions here we must take instead of looking for how to know pumps and dumps.
I agree most of the altcoins are being manipulated. Due to this kind of manipulation the technical analysis on altcoin is not working significantly compared to bitcoin's technical analysis. If some inside people keep on manipulating alt coin and finally they will dump them into one or two satoshi levels. We have seen many altcoins got devalued due to this reason.
3018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: March 08, 2017, 06:43:20 AM
most people will have no chance to withdraw the profit as everytime you play , there is something annoying come to you that makes you play it till lost in the end.
Dice gambling will stimulate your adrenaline and this  adrenaline simulation will enforce you to keep on gambling until you find yourself unfit to continue dice gambling. Regardless of your profits or losses, you will simply continue your adventures. Only a zero balance will stop you.

This is may be because of dice gambling is indirectly controlling our emotions. We are becoming emotionally failed person to listen to game's commands.
I believe this is not just the scenario of how dice gambling is working. Almost every gambling types will be having similar problems and when you are being an emotionally failed gambler then you will never able to find profits.

Hence, there will be no meaning in blaming only dice gambling like we are not making profits with it alone.
3019  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: March 08, 2017, 03:45:44 AM
Sure you can, remember bitcoin found for freedom, all we can do. We can manipulate the bitcoin if we have sufficient stock, everyone will agree and do not complain if you can control it.
Manipulating the price of bitcoins is the basic element that controls the price of bitcoins. Somewhere I read earlier that china's some rich guys or company took huge amount of bitcoins and hence made the price fly and this helped them since the rise in price meant that more guys would buy bitcoins and hence once they see a good price they just dump their coins.
3020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: March 07, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
It's pure luck, but when I reach the limit of my balance that is when I already stop gambling. ALL IN!!! HAHAH   Roll Eyes
Newbie will always say it's pure luck, I don't think we last to gamble longer if majority just believe on pure luck. For me, I believe that requires effort and intelligence as well, you cannot be successful in the long run with pure luck alone, what you need is to be consistent and always improve your method to say profitable. Even if it is on luck based games, you still need strategy to win.
It's still pure luck friend no mater if you ask a newbie or ask a philosopher because its crystal clear and obvious. You can apply as many strategies you want and whenever you find a strategy that worked you please let me know.
Yeah skill is required but only in skill games that you play against players like say poker and others.
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