Right here, on this forum maybe?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355470.0


Why not? If the USB miner is using bitmain S9 or s19 chips, what's stopping you from mining?
You need to differentiate between a CPU or GPU which are standalone units and USB which is a standard for connectivity.

And you're going to work every day of the week, 30 days out of 30? 
The table takes into account the maximum working hours also, it's derived from the minimum wage a worker can get with the minimum required of work a week. So it's (1635564/610)*7/5 so 3,753, pretty close to the table at 3,862.

Yeah, I should have added it includes resting days but the title won't let me so I'll add in the OP!


I intentionally left out a few countries from the minimum wage table where there were * about the rates and the numbers really didn't seem right, but in most cases when I saw them around countries in the same region and roughly the same GDP per capita I let them slide.
I have serious doubts about Argentina now that I'm double-checking the ranking!


The sad part is that Bitcoin won't change a thing cause, as you can see it's not the poorest of the poor in poor countries that can afford to invest enough to change their life ina meaningful way!

I think your Uber Eats driver got your wrong order of mushrooms!
That or your cat cracked your windows password again!

I've grown a bit tired of all GDP PPP numbers, all the Gini index, and since we are on Btcointalk we should probably focus on Bitcoin prices and how to get your coins (other than gambling our life savings) here is a table on how many days of minimum wage work you have to ...let's say survive to get a coin. This of course is assuming you don't spend a penny, and you survive on god knows what!

There are a few countries missing as their minimum wage is either not set or it's irrelevant since it's so old everybody already earns 10 times more. Also, as a note, when you go over the 10 000 number, that's 27 years!

LE:
Second note, since the data comes from monthly wages in some countries those days include the resting days, so let's say it's the number of days you;re going to spend employed over the minimum wage!

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Luxembourg Australia New Zealand Germany United Kingdom Ireland Netherlands France Canada Monaco Belgium San Marino South Korea Israel Austria Slovenia Spain Japan United States of America Andorra Taiwan Malta Lithuania The Bahamas Poland Greece Oman Hong Kong Macau Portugal Saudi Arabia Argentina Barbados Slovakia Czech Republic Romania Estonia Latvia Croatia Palestine Saint Kitts and Nevis Montenegro Hungary Antigua and Barbuda Palau Costa Rica Turkey Bulgaria Belize Ecuador Jordan Lebanon Uruguay Chile Trinidad and Tobago Marshall Islands Bolivia Paraguay Morocco Bosnia and Herzegovina Guatemala Colombia Panama Albania South Africa El Salvador Serbia Turkmenistan Seychelles Gabon Vanuatu Fiji Thailand Mexico Dominica Brazil Peru Ukraine Philippines Equatorial Guinea Malaysia Russia People's Republic of China Dominican Republic Mauritius Indonesia Azerbaijan Honduras Republic of Macedonia Kosovo Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Jamaica Kuwait Cambodia Papua New Guinea Iraq Guyana Tunisia Republic of the Congo Botswana Moldova Armenia Algeria Mongolia Laos Vietnam Comoros Nepal Nicaragua East Timor Chad Pakistan Iran Libya Uzbekistan Haiti Mauritania Lesotho Solomon Islands Nigeria Benin Afghanistan Central African Republic Kazakhstan Ivory Coast Cameroon Togo Burkina Faso Kenya Eswatini Myanmar Senegal India Angola Niger Mali Bhutan Sri Lanka Zambia Sierra Leone Mozambique Ghana Uganda Guinea-Bissau Madagascar Malawi Tajikistan The Gambia Democratic Republic of the Congo Bangladesh Tanzania Kyrgyzstan Syria Cuba Sudan Venezuela

341 345 350 371 405 435 439 451 454 455 456 514 522 556 630 641 661 677 726 735 915 974 996 1,003 1,009 1,018 1,067 1,091 1,098 1,102 1,141 1,223 1,239 1,257 1,261 1,265 1,387 1,543 1,548 1,568 1,579 1,714 1,718 1,733 1,755 1,782 1,823 1,840 1,872 1,982 2,025 2,038 2,052 2,055 2,373 2,632 2,690 2,700 2,740 2,773 2,791 2,823 2,867 2,952 2,983 3,000 3,033 3,193 3,336 3,373 3,380 3,388 3,401 3,528 3,554 3,746 3,807 3,831 3,862 3,922 4,109 4,138 4,145 4,191 4,314 4,471 4,497 4,525 4,529 4,538 4,549 4,559 4,563 4,704 5,249 5,292 5,434 5,475 5,621 5,665 5,815 6,128 6,162 6,190 6,322 6,882 6,900 7,185 7,271 7,935 8,436 8,495 8,774 9,367 10,519 10,799 11,151 11,454 11,736 12,153 12,659 12,762 13,337 13,739 13,826 13,949 14,465 14,600 15,598 15,778 15,847 15,962 16,246 16,516 16,846 17,776 17,980 18,159 18,372 19,043 19,909 25,289 25,704 26,578 29,122 41,165 41,321 43,281 49,773 51,651 52,392 67,593 114,063 248,864 842,308 1,095,000

Seeing those numbers, do you feel like flipping burgers for a minimum wage?
Cause here is some trivia, at the average 300 burgers you might prepare at a Mcdonald's in a shift, in countries like Lesotho you will have to serve each citizen in the country one hamburger more than once till you get your BTC. In Gambia it will be 10 hams to each citizen!

!!!!!
Update as the 10th of February at price of $47500

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Luxembourg Australia New Zealand Germany United Kingdom Ireland Netherlands France Canada Monaco Belgium San Marino South Korea Israel Austria Slovenia Spain Japan United States of America Andorra Taiwan Malta Lithuania The Bahamas Poland Greece Oman Hong Kong Macau Portugal Saudi Arabia Argentina Barbados Slovakia Czech Republic Romania Estonia Latvia Croatia Palestine Saint Kitts and Nevis Montenegro Hungary Antigua and Barbuda Palau Costa Rica Turkey Bulgaria Belize Ecuador Jordan Lebanon Uruguay Chile Trinidad and Tobago Marshall Islands Bolivia Paraguay Morocco Bosnia and Herzegovina Guatemala Colombia Panama Albania South Africa El Salvador Serbia Turkmenistan Seychelles Gabon Vanuatu Fiji Thailand Mexico Dominica Brazil Peru Ukraine Philippines Equatorial Guinea Malaysia Russia People's Republic of China Dominican Republic Mauritius Indonesia Azerbaijan Honduras Republic of Macedonia Kosovo Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Jamaica Kuwait Cambodia Papua New Guinea Iraq Guyana Tunisia Republic of the Congo Botswana Moldova Armenia Algeria Mongolia Laos Vietnam Comoros Nepal Nicaragua East Timor Chad Pakistan Iran Libya Uzbekistan Haiti Mauritania Lesotho Solomon Islands Nigeria Benin Afghanistan Central African Republic Kazakhstan Ivory Coast Cameroon Togo Burkina Faso Kenya Eswatini Myanmar Senegal India Angola Niger Mali Bhutan Sri Lanka Zambia Sierra Leone Mozambique Ghana Uganda Guinea-Bissau Madagascar Malawi Tajikistan The Gambia Democratic Republic of the Congo Bangladesh Tanzania Kyrgyzstan Syria Cuba Sudan Venezuela

540 546 554 587 641 688 696 715 719 720 722 814 826 881 997 1,015 1,047 1,072 1,150 1,163 1,278 1,448 1,542 1,577 1,588 1,598 1,612 1,689 1,727 1,739 1,745 1,806 1,936 1,961 1,991 1,997 2,003 2,195 2,443 2,451 2,482 2,501 2,714 2,720 2,745 2,778 2,821 2,914 2,964 3,138 3,206 3,227 3,249 3,254 3,757 4,168 4,259 4,276 4,338 4,390 4,418 4,470 4,540 4,674 4,723 4,750 4,803 5,056 5,283 5,341 5,351 5,364 5,384 5,586 5,627 5,931 6,028 6,066 6,116 6,210 6,506 6,552 6,562 6,635 6,831 7,079 7,120 7,164 7,170 7,185 7,203 7,218 7,224 7,447 8,311 8,380 8,604 8,669 8,900 8,969 9,207 9,702 9,757 9,801 10,010 10,897 10,925 11,376 11,512 12,563 13,357 13,450 13,892 14,831 16,655 17,098 17,655 18,135 18,583 19,243 20,043 20,207 21,118 21,753 21,891 22,086 22,903 23,117 24,697 24,982 25,090 25,273 25,723 26,150 26,673 28,145 28,469 28,752 29,090 30,152 31,523 40,040 40,698 42,081 46,110 65,179 65,425 68,528 78,807 81,781 82,955 107,022 180,599 186,425 394,034 1,333,654 1,733,750

He has a spam problem.
His other message is the same, with a hidden link in the text that has nothing to do with the subject, unfortunately common practice around spammers lately just as editing posts later on and adding links when their post is not on the last page anymore and nobody is seeing it to report.

Don't bother with them more than that, report and done!

Bumping this with another I told ya:

China’s risk of deflation is ‘serious’ — one economist says it’s ‘time to act’
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/18/china-deflation-fears-add-to-growth-concerns-wall-street-downgrades.html

Now, there is some info here that might surprise, some, for example, the GDP growth was 6.3% from a year ago and missing  the expected 7.3%
, it might sound a lot but it comes over the results from 2022, when the growth was 0.4%, so it's more like a rebound from a period of nothing than actual growth. Much like every country exiting covid restriction went and had a +5+10 % growth.

And this is where it gets troubling:


And here it gets dangerous:
The bank keeps injecting money and there is no sign of inflation but serious dangerous of deflation and no wonder other authors have had the same thought as me and instantly thought: Japan!
China’s corporate woes are narrower than ‘Japanification’ fears

Inflation keeps going down in the EU and US, the UK has shown some really sharp drop, pretty soon they will be in the 2%-3% area and right now there is nothing stopping them either, China is already at the brink with 0.2%, there is nothing right now that can stimulate consumption, there is nothing to stimulate spending, and money printing won't solve the things either, besides nobody really wants to cut those rates anyhow.

This is going to be pretty interesting, it's going to be the first time in ages major economy would enter deflation since Japan did so everything is on the table.

They've copied the website not the business!
https://www.airwallex.com/eu/who-we-are

And airwallex doesn't offer vitural cards like that because every single operator who will just handle virtual card numbers right or left witouht KYC will get its license suspended, we had a ton of those happening especially with shady lithuanian and maltese providers.


Legit, safe, and with no KYC? Not really!

AI has been around since the 60's and saw billions in investments in the 80s, it's the complete opposite, cryptos are the newborn in this instance!

Also, AI has been around us for decades and you use it even without knowing, Google searches and recommendations are AI, games are driven by it, and drones and toys have it, virtual assistants have been around longer than crypto, and so do programs in every field from finance to agriculture some people misunderstand and mislabel things, they think of AI as something that only answers questions or does stuff for you when you order a human-like robot to do so when the field is actually enormous. And let's not even mention the fact that the article said AI and robotics!, and that's something that basically exists in every single line of production right now!

Wow, is Russia going out of Ukraine and Georgia and Moldova and returning Konisgberg?
Great news, thanks for letting me know that the invading orcs are going back home!


That's why Huawei can't make a 5g phone without US chips?  



And when you wake up you see that you just had a wet dream again like you had for 3 decades, it might be the case that you need to let go of the anti-US propaganda and deal with facts, just as you like to deal with good old and valuable us dollars instead of shitty rials and yuans.

Does an AI company need to launch a token in order to have an AI product? NO!
Do these hype token issuers first launch the token and then think of the actual product? YES!

So, what's the point of investing in those tokens that just go up and down by the market hype and do not relate to the actual product or company one bit? I see those tokens as nothing more than the usual wave of shitty ICOs when every single thing that made the news suddenly had a token for it, car sharing, home rentals, mining, agriculture, pharmaceutics, every single time we had some tokens for it, and they all went to dust! This will happen to those also!

Do we actually have one, just one real success story?

It's pretty normal for people would invest in robotics and AI, there is an endless market building for those products, and the usage of tokens and altcoins is, let's just say limited if not worse. The crypto market is getting oversaturated, and previous experiences are not really helping at all.

You've just described what every single real seller does, do you imagine they are carrying around PoS with the hardware wallets on it and the private keys there? They just have a listening function that detects the payment from x has been made to the y address displayed and the value matched.

Besides most sellers are interested in swapping directly the coins for $ to not get screwed by the fluctuations in the markets, so they don't touch the coins at all.

You do know the UAE dirham is pegged to the value of the USD, right?
So basically you're just dealing with USD value, it's like saying using tether will lead to the collapse of the USD! 


And yet, despite all this, every single one of those commenting here about the death of the dollar is in a signature campaign that pays in $ equivalent, not in yuans not in rubles not in rupees! Why is that?

He has posted 3 times before that
https://ninjastic.space/user/id/317240

And this probably shows how hard it is in reality to get read of all your traces on the web and why OP should relly just let it go.
Now with this topic, he has just brought more attention to it! Also, the irony:
https://ninjastic.space/post/39794190

From praising KYC to having privacy concerns!

LE
This is what I get from saving drafts and then posting the wrong one

That's not a fact that's a post by somebody saying something without providing facts!

A fact is this thing:

https://whois.domaintools.com/iceriver.cn.com/
https://whois.domaintools.com/iceriver.io

How can it be that the official website is 80 days younger than the "scammer"?

LE>>

Ok, rogue employee but the website is still up, the bank accounts are the same, all social media is still up, and the so-called original company is just setting up a website and that's all?

Let's be real here, if you were in their situation what would you have done?
I would have set up a youtube account filmed my warehouse, my company, and the mines with their serial numbers, and shown complete proof I'm the real owner, not just posting on some Reddit sub, right?
And being a subreddit mod that says they've received info but they won't publish a thing, what credibility do they have? A mod in reddit comes like a dozen a dime, 5k sub, lol, there's no way I would trust that guy over some other random dude on the net!

As far as I can tell they could be both scammers, but somebody keeps getting those kaspa miners, so one of them is legit but at the same time it makes really no effort to prove it.

Why are so surprised?
Did you file a complaint against the website operators for fraud with your local police or cybercrime?
Did you contact their hosting provider or domain name registrar and tell them how you've got scammed by that website?

Until a few do so nobody will take action since the one who can do something can't act on their own or don't know about it at all!

Yeah, bs!
Normal newbies are not opening topics left and right telling others about crypto trading, crypto security, advantages of blockchain and stuff like that.
Normal newbies don't open topics with the opening post in almost perfect English and then suddenly revert to posting unreadable gibberish that makes no sense in other topics.
Normal newbies do reply to the comments on the topics they've opened, they don't just throw the bait and wait for a merit fish!

The whole thing is getting ridiculous, the forum is bombarded with topics opened by accounts that have spent barely anytime here teaching others everything, from personal motivation to how to succeed in agriculture, how to live a fulfilling life, how to secure your wealth, how to deal with family issues, the only thing I haven't yet seen is drug addiction advices.


That's the real problem, right?

Also, newbie...right! Newbie!

It doesn't matter how many times you proofread them, if the idea is faulty it is what it is.
The ATH was already broken, even if you mentioned it so why would the previous ATH still matter in this whole thing, if you take it as an example of how the price reacts after it then simply go one further ATH back and see that is doesn't resemble this cycle at all, so what's the point fixating on it when it's no longer the ATH, there is no resemblance to the previous situation where we had two consecutive ATH broken, sooo ...they are just random lines that currently don't mean a thing as you can see from the price!

Your words:


Since the lines were broken once, why didn't this "trend" manifest already? Besides, the whole thign is silly, if it goes below or above a few liens it will either go up or down from there, I swear even Nostradamus was more precise with his predictions.


So if it goes up or down from those lines the price might go up or down and in case it doesn't cross the lines the price will keep between those levels, right, unless it will go above or below one! Now you see the problem with your "prediction?
 

Even your graph clearly shows that's not the annual ATH, the current one happened on the 15th at 31665 (average) and 31656 right there on the image you used! So the trend is already broken!


Those two things contradict themselves, you can't have both of them increasing their presence compared to the other one.


You don't have to go that far, the same thing happened at the end of last year, we were stuck in the same pattern only for something completely unpredictable to happen, nothing to do with price levels or barrier or ATH, one solid pump in 3 continuous days and we were  up 25%, the only thing I learned about Bitcoin price prediction is that the more lines and arrows you try to put on a chart more effort the ghost of Satoshi will put into making sure the price avoids all your lines and fancy drawings.

Yeah, nicely said, although one should add that bounty hunting is not a job!


People who don't have the capital to start over again if they fail 10 trades in a row or are unfamiliar with trading at all should simply stay away from it! The whole investing and trading scheme is pretty simple, it's money moving around, when yours go away they are in somebody else's pocket, when you score it's the opposite. And most of this money flow comes from newbies and guys who think that just because they got lucky 5 times in a row with a shitcoin they can do so forever when it's just luck mistaken as knowledge!

Just like not everybody can fix a broken fridge not everybody can trade successfully!

Because it's a scam advertised by a group of scammers that constantly spam social media with their "solution".

The solution involves paying upfront 10 BTC for a plan in which you can send up to 100 BTC and get it back (lol) in 6 months.
Needless to say that it doesn't work and for sure you won't be able to get a refund from one of the lazyest scammers ever!


Apart from the technical things everyone already mentioned, don't you find it interesting that we have no record of such a thing happening at all, and we should at least have one instance of it from the developers of this solution at least, when they've tested their method.