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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DERP] Derp ( | First Self-clowning Self-Scamming Ponzi HYIP on: May 26, 2019, 03:37:58 PM
highly respected community members like Tao  Cool

Tao isn't highly respected  Roll Eyes

Tao really is that respected  Angry

We need to end Pay and Pray. We should be building a community of developer/entrepreneurs, not a mob of promise-breaking hucksters and dreamers wishing to get Dash to finance their unsustainable, money-sucking adventures.

This sir I can agree with.  I'm not a big fan of the Pay and Pray as well.  We have literally had millions of treasury dollars wasted by scammers and low value projects.  I'd be willing to discuss and alternate system in the near future.  It would be worth while creating a constructive dialogue on this count me in on helping out.  

Did you actually follow up with billyjoe and starting busting the many unsustainable, money-sucking adventures like Alt36, Dash Force, and DACH Embassy wasting resources for zero ROI and non-existent KPI?

Or was your post just at best an emission of meaningless social strokes and at worst more of you pumping and shilling to help dump your very heavy bags, before the media finds out Darkcoin was never really dark (because PrivateSend was never really private)?   Wink

Where was all the "constructive dialogue" and "help" you promised when Dash was wasting millions on Fake News about KFC and 100s of other paid actors performing in Venezuela's adoption theater?

IIRC you didn't lift a finger to help Drako cure the Dash cult's hopium addiction, and instead viciously attacked him for even mentioning the problem!

Keep paying that creepy bald guy and 500lb tub of lard for broadcasting their 3-hour long hopium abuse and circle jerking marathons; I'm sure that's a much better use of funds than getting Amanda back making videos or paying for an audit of PrivateSend.  Grin
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network on: May 23, 2019, 12:40:14 AM
poloniex was good a long time ago. Now it's just a crap exchange.
Use binance and bittrex.
Okex and several others are adding decred in the US market, what is the reason poloniex draw decred?
Just a ridiculous attempt at market manipulation or even ignorance.
They rated decred as a security token.
decred isn't a token, it is a coin. And we also didn't have ICO.

The sour grapes over Polo is a very bad look and I don't want it rubbing off onto Decred.

For what it is (fiat on/off ramp and altcoin exchange) Polo is excellent.  Their plans for Circle and Circle Dollar are solid and being built out much more rapidly than anything associated with Decred.

I'm an early supporter but it's asinine to pretend the market doesn't consider Decred a borderline shitcoin and somehow it's myriad shortcomings are all OR EVEN PARTIALLY Polo's fault.

Stop looking backwards and whining about how unfair it obviously is to remove Decred but not Dash.

Start looking forwards to Decred's DEX and explaining how it's going to disrupt legacy exchanges obviously, infamously, and predictably hidebound by ancient regimes.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DERP] Derp ( | First Self-clowning Self-Scamming Ponzi HYIP on: May 23, 2019, 12:28:10 AM
Dash is an intentionally instamined scam marketed to noob investors using fake privacy, fake adoption, and fake news.

Dash is digital trash.

Hey thanks Icey, I like to put on a brave face and pretend I'm glad you're back posting here.

Hows it going with your ETC investments? I remember they had a "Code Is Law. No Bailouts." and pro-PoW/anti-PoS ideology you particularly liked. But didn't they suffer a social attack wherein the exchanges stole the ETH ticker to reward Vitalik for bailing out their interlocking VC investor support netowrks ?

I got my ETC so cheap I'll always be on the moon no matter what, but let's stick to discussing Dash in the Dash thread.  I'm sure you can understand why it's considered bad behavior to go off-topic on a forum, if you think about it for a while.

PrivateSend  Sad

Firstly, this is not intended to be an act of trolling. I was quite heavily invested in Dash, and believed in it's cause.

However, I would like you to carefully consider your position.

The privatesend option of anonymity could be smashed by the NSA quite easily.

The anonymity market share you own - on the assumption that privatesend works flawlessly - is about to be overtaken by Monyro

Their anonymity solution is superior to yours, developed by hackers. A purely trustless solution.

PrivateSend relies on a collateral system - 1000drks per masternode, randomly selected masternodes, and these nodes sign off on the pooled transactions.

Sounds much money do you think the NSA has? How easy to simply stockpile virtually all the Dash out there, and have the majority of masternodes running...

Sorry Evan but they are laughing at this solution...they will simply allow your network to grow, allow users to feel safe and protected, yet know the vast majority of transactions.

The only real solution to anonymity is encrypted packets of information, that are visible on the network by can only be decrypted by the intended recipient using their private key.

You are a smart, well intended dev. You have a loyal team, you have done well. But your solution is flawed.

This was solved by using multiple iterations through many masternodes. Users can pick how secure and private they want their transactions to be. To actually know who spent what, you would have to control every masternode from start to end.

I'm implementing I2P into the masternodes. We're going to have our own private network just for PrivateSend.

the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.

my understanding is that some IP Obfuscation will come through the use of the  Decentralized API, meaning using the masternode network to execute commands so that the actual message comes out of a masternode quorum and not directly from your client thus granting you some privacy.  

We are still at early stages so take it with a grain of salt, that is why all available information and ideas will be open for discussion next Sunday so feedback can start and we go to the Miami presentation late January with a model that has been validated with the community and revised where necessary.

What happened over the last 4-5 years that made Duffield abandon these announced I2P and Masternode Blinding Features?  Does it have something to do with the SEC, FBI, or other ThreeLetterAgencies?

Can Deterministic Masternode Lists (LLMQs) use i2p/onion addresses instead of public IPs?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How Does Dash's DAO Work? | DASH: Detailed on: May 23, 2019, 12:06:32 AM
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Video Link:
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🚨 NEWS ALERT 🚨 #Dash Core Group have launched V.14 network release to mainnet officially implementing Long Living Masternode Quorums (LLMQ) significantly improving network security, user experience & expanding Dash use-cases!
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Dash Core Group CEO Ryan Taylor and CTO Bob Carroll presentation at Consensus 2019
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Isn't spamming the main Dash [ANN] thread good enough for you?  Isn't it obvious that nobody here in this Discussion sub wants to discuss your instamined Dark-coin bags?

Please combine consecutive posts into one; we do not need a new Bitcointalk post every time some paid Dash shill sock account posts on twitter.

This kind of spamming and shilling is exactly why Dash's fake news sites got nuked from r/cryptocurrency and the mods here banhammered tungfa.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] [DERP] Derp ( | First Self-clowning Self-Scamming Ponzi HYIP on: May 22, 2019, 01:46:25 PM
(an imperial shitload of gish-gallop, techno-babble, & speculation-as-fact)

That's a lot of fancy talk to distract people from the basic, essential truth that Dash v.14 no longer follows the longest chain and is no longer protected by the proven security model of Nakamoto Consensus.

BitcoinXT had a lot of fancy talk to rationalize its checkpoints, too.  How did that work out for them?

Bcash-BAB is also using checkpoints because the real world of thermodynamics and proof-of-work is too mean/hard/scary for them.

How is Dash's version of checkpoints any better than XT or Bcash's?

Masternodes don't make Chainlocks better, they just massively expand the chainlocked network's attack surface by opening up new vectors (hello partitioning attacks Wink) for malicious and/or incompetent Masternode operators to abuse their trusted third party privileges.

Angry Angry Angry
tx for banning me after 5 years for NO REASON !

 Cry Cry Cry

Tungfa   Sad
Shill  Sad
Spam  Sad
6  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: labcoin lawsuit on: May 22, 2019, 01:20:58 PM
report to the police, this is an international network of fraud case.

Thank goodness!

The BITCOIN POLICE are on the case!

Well that turned out exactly as expected.   Tongue

Almost 6 years have passed and still there is no indication that the victims will be getting any sort of compensation. Fortunately, I didn't lost any of my coins to this scam. But the guy who introduced me to the world of crypto-currency lost some of his precious coins. It is sad... this incident also follows a very familiar pattern... with the scammers remaining free and the victims losing their hope of getting a refund.

It's sad after 6 years people still think getting lawyers involved will do anything other than make sure 90% of the the money gets burned by legal fees.

You don't have to be PCR to realized The rule of law has given way to law as a weapon in the hands of government...

If you are still stuck on the Lawyer=Justice=$$$$$ fantasy pushed by Hollywood movies and TV, you may just be the slowest potato in the french fry factory.

Clue: this is Clown World and the lawyers and NOT your friends.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash ( | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: May 22, 2019, 12:47:46 PM
Hearn's Worst Case Scenario: Checkpoints in XT to "ignore the longest chain"

Dash Announcing DIP 8 - ChainLocks
Duffield's Worst Case Scenario: ChainLocks in Dash to "ignore the longest chain"

Old news.  More of the same.  Too little and too late.

The CEO of Dash Core Incorporated(tm) can just checkpoint whenever there is an imminent threat like a another Binance theft or 51% NiceHash attack.  Security via central authority, try to beat that!  Grin

Ignoring the longest chain worked out very well for for BitcoinXT and can only help Dash in the same way.

Nakamoto Consensus is ancient and broken.  Dash knows better than to use 10 year old technology when they can just roll their own critical consensus protocols and ship them to mainnet after only a day or two of testing the 6th(!) release candidate.  Cool
8  Economy / Collectibles / Re: collectible coin? on: May 20, 2019, 07:43:25 AM
- Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

This is a great idea.  Interesting features should include holograms and molds/dies commissioned from the community's favorite artists.

The best way to make a coin like this would be allocation of access to different versions based on rank.

Of course the coins must have "I AM HODLING" repeated around their edges and their owners' forum rank inscribed somewhere.  Cheesy

All versions would have the same front text, which would state the obvious

Celebrating 10 Year of Bitcoin Talk, 2009-2019

and feature our motto:

Everyone knows that Bitcoin runs on drama -theymos, Sept 8, 2014

and, in a smaller inscription

Bcash.  LOL

The 3 versions should ideally be as follows


(imagine using a gray metal for the black parts and gold for the white bits)  Shocked
Back design+sticker by Cryptopods + OGNasty.
Value of 2,100 Satoshis on 1oz copper (black ruthenium-plated with gold accents that will look sleek af)


Back should a Crypto Imperator hologram on a Kialara die. 
Value of 21,000 Satoshis on 2oz high relief silver w/ gold-plate accents


Back: collaboration between Mike from Casascius and smoothie from Lealana; one designs the hologram and the other sculpts the die.
Value of 21,000,000 Satoshis on 5 oz of silver w/ gold-plate accents

All the drama around this project just makes it too perfect for Bitcoin Talk.  Would we want it any other way?

This reminds me of something I wrote long ago and can't find now, perhaps it should also be on the coins?  Roll Eyes
Quote from: icebreaker
Satoshi created BitcoinTalk to train the faithful
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: May 20, 2019, 03:11:06 AM
RandomX is a new CPU-centric Proof of Work algorithm we've been designing since last year; the original design rationale is here
That writeup talks about using JavaScript - you can ignore that detail. The base motivation is still the same.

Very excited to see this happening. Another holy grail for Mnoero!  Cool

Given the roughly strong consensus that if MNO is an economic success then ASICs are inevitable, do you think it's possible to turn that PoW 'bug' into a killer feature by effectively subsidizing development of an open-source hardware instruction set architecture?

Since RandomX performance is ~impossible to equalize among implementations (ye olde AMD/GCN vs NVDA/CUDA dilemma), why not help catalyze RISC-V instead of unduly rewarding private corps for making proprietary hardware?

If it's possible to redirect 'inevitable' excess hardware mining profit to a hardware ecosystem sharing with Monero's wild & free ethos (rather than continue supporting Silicon Tyranny), let's consider the benefits users and devs of Monero would gain in a world blessed with cheap and plentiful RISC-V things/phones/laptops/servers/miners all happily securing our blockchain according to their individual economic conditions/situations.

Instruction Sets Should Be Free: The Case For RISC-V
Krste Asanović, David A. Patterson


The case is even clearer for an open ISA than for an open OS, as ISAs change very slowly, whereas algorithmic innovations and new application demands force continual OS evolution. It is also an interface standard like TCP/IP, thus simpler to maintain and evolve than an OS. Open ISAs have been tried before, but they never became popular due to the lack of demand. The low cost and power of IoTs, the desire for a WSC alternative tothe 80x86, and the fact that cores are a small but ubiquitous fraction of all SoCs combine to supply that missing demand. RISC-V is aimed at SoCs, with a base that should never change given the longevity of the basic RISC ideas; a standard set of optional extensions that will evolve slowly; and unique instructions per SoC that never need to be reused. While the first RISC-V beachhead may be IoTs or perhaps WSCs, our goal is grander: just as Linux has become the standard OS for most computing devices, we envision RISC-V becoming the standard ISA for all computing devices.

I'd like to weigh the open-source hardware development ASIC implications of sha3 vs my crazy(?) idea for a RISC-V optimized/native/friendly variant of RandomX.
But there is a lot of nuance in this thicket of law and culture and game theory and compsci and economics.  Any insight is appreciated in advance.  Smiley
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BCash - Failed on-chain bloating - BU, SV, BAB, & MORE TO COME!!! on: May 18, 2019, 12:27:51 PM

How sad that Bcash wasted years on pointless vanity forks that still crash and produce nothing other than comedy for entertaining Small Block Militia partisans.


Fighting over whether Roger's failed ragefork or Craig's failed ragefork is the one and only truly real Fake Bitcoin is beyond a joke, it's scam-ception.

11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: May 18, 2019, 11:57:11 AM
I just hope we are not all sitting in a train made of bamboo and palm leaves.  Where is iCEBREAKER... that was always his favorite taunt to the dash people...  CARGO CULT!

You don't have to just sit and hope because XMR's progress is happening in open source repos and public testnets.

Peter Todd created the 'Dash = cargo cult' meme.  It's a perfect metaphor for their primitive scammunity's 'BuiLd baMboo runwaYs and teh cRypto godS sHall retURn witH LamBos11!1' ideology.

Where have I been?  I've been helping ensure humanity doesn't get stuck with bad digital cash in a Chaumsian failure mode (aka Black Mirror) timeline.

Who do you think is buying /u/Flenst a monstrous Death Star workstation capable of unraveling and destroying Dash's fake, broken privacy once and for all?  Wink

Hint: it's not the cheap/broke Dash-holes paying for all that sweet RAM.  Those greedy ratfuckers wouldn't even pony up a decent bug bounty for PrivateSend zero-days.

Despite plastering this challenge all over, the Masternode whales voted down the proposal to fund a real PrivateSend pen-test regime.  It's almost as if the Dark-coin bagholders didn't want to find out whether or not PrivateSend is really private.

Dash De-anonymization Contest

Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at

I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.

Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.


So now Dash bagholders and shills are being taught a lesson by being trolled at the protocol level, watching helplessly as their once-vaunted shitty version of CoinJoin is triturated into its blockchain's constituent individual transactions.  Cool

Around 13% of DASH's privateSends are traceable to their origin

This post contains two different approaches on tracing privateSend to its originating address. The one that got this post started can be found later in the post as "Mixing cluster + metadata". The more serious one will directly follow. Despite getting some flak I followed it further and am 100% certain there is a high percentage certainty for the results of my parse, in the 90+% range. If there is a bounty for tracing privateSends I also formally apply for it with this post.

I strongly recommend to stop using privateSend if all mixed funds have one originating address in your wallet!

This approach WILL find your address, if all your mixed funds originated from one address and your privateSend has more than one input. No matter how often you mixed.

Data from parsing around 15 days of privateSends yield a success rate of ~13%. One day of privateSend takes a bit more than one hour to parse before the update that enabled 16 rounds of mixing on a single machine. The results itself look without a doubt legit in the most cases. Or to explain it different: if your privateSend is traceable the way I describe and you did something shady this should be enough to knock on your door.

Tick, tock...

12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash ( | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: May 18, 2019, 10:58:25 AM
I know Dash is *claiming* to have expanded its community but I don't believe that claim is true.  For one thing, the number of tx (excluding PrivateSend bloat) is waaay down.
Even Bitcoin network's transactions have been down.
Therefore, I saw the case of DASH is a normal one, and don't panic with your information.
Total marketcap down, transaction down, price down, they are all the same in crypto during 2018, and last till early of 2019.
No reason to panic and feel negatively about DASH, so far.

Have you failed to notice that despite the Long Winter coins like BTC, LTC, ADA, XMR, and DCR are still having conferences and their organic communities are still organizing+attending meet-ups, but Dash is not?

Bitcoin isn't relevant to whether or not Dash's community is really expanding.  I don't think Bitcoin's community somehow magically "expanded" despite its objectively observable lower number of transactions.  Of course Bitcoin's lower tx number also comes thanks to Bitcoin's successful Lightning scaling (which Dash can't have without segwit).

There are three ways to expand Dash's (or Bitcoin's, or any coin's) community.

1. TX

Merely talking about Dash and putting little Dash stickers on filthy restaurant doors isn't expanding Dash's community.
And please don't try to tell me anyone in VZ is hodling or buidling Dash; that's not what people in unstable situations do because they don't have reliable power+internet+free time.  Anyone with coding skills and/or hodling crypto bags left years ago.

Just look at this Dash [ANN] thread.  It's nothing but page after page of Dash Shill Force spam, heavy with mobile-unfriendly low-content graphics.  There is no longer an organic Darkcoin community remaining, it's all just fake Dash Corp garbage containing very little information and advertising fake news about KFC using their shitcoin.

Even the self-deceiving pumpers have gone broke and given up on their dangerously misleading permabull TA.  

All of the hype about Dash adoption in shithole places turned out to be a scam.  The girl Dash hoped would be their new Amanda turned out to be a Scamanda who lied about the funds she and her team were embezzling. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Source: "Scam and embezzlement from DASH DAO - Venezuela team fabricated the salary payouts, faked audit, and possibly lied about number of merchants using DASH in Venezuela"

No wonder Bletchley Index dropped Dash from 10 to 20 and replaced it with *TRON*. Grin Grin Grin

Dash Sad
13  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] Satori Chips and Lealana Monero Coins at WACKADOODLE PRICES on: February 28, 2019, 03:21:22 PM
I'd like the last two MATCHED SETS of FOUR, 141 and 144, please.  Cool
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: February 25, 2019, 09:49:50 AM

Even funnier: what's the latest tech addition to Bitcoin Cash in their May fork?


And whose (unfinished) work did they copy & paste to make Lightning possible on Bitcoin Cash? Bitcoin Core's Schnorr sigs spec.  

How is this possible?  No Lightning without a malleability fix.  Will Bcash-BAB bend the knee to segwit? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash ( | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2019, 08:46:59 AM

Old news.  More of the same.  Too little and too late.

Hearn's Worst Case Scenario: Checkpoints in XT to "ignore the longest chain"
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Great Schism - A Compendium on: February 25, 2019, 07:53:05 AM
Bitmain No Longer Under Influence of Jihan Wu, Says Lawyer

cypherdoc: "i think BU is dead. i don't say that with glee as i helped conceptualize and financially supported it. i just think they're exhausted."

Mining Giant Bitmain Posts $500 Million Loss in IPO Financial Filing
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: February 25, 2019, 06:16:12 AM
@Carlton Banks
I don't think that bitcoin is for the rich now... but some are pushing on this way buy doing wrong short term choices, to please their investors.

Other clients (unlimited, xt and classic) are working on solutions to scale "on-chain", they are doing it because it is possible and they haven't any conflict of interest on giving these kind of solutions.

HostFat managed to be so wrong about so much, in this hilariously not-aging-well assertion of his favorite controversial hard forks' superiority.

Unlimited, XT, and Classic are abandonware now, while BAB and BSV are notorious for their conflicts of interest created by the very rich people known as Roger Veer, Jihan Woo, and Calvin Airhead.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cardano (ADA): A New Cryptocurrency and More on: February 25, 2019, 03:47:24 AM
This is bug report for Emurgo. displays the staff pics with distorted dimensions when using Brave.

It's kind of funny but doesn't look professional  Grin.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash ( | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 12, 2019, 05:16:48 AM
Dash Releases Evolution's Foundation in Largest Upgrade Ever (Amanda B)

Is this the video where Amanda talks about how she gave Evolution one last chance to meet its self-imposed "end of 2018" deadline but that didn't happen?

Or is this the one where Amanda explains why she's still shilling Dash despite previously claiming to only be interested in the Top 12 coins?
20  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Happy Holidays on: February 12, 2019, 05:14:15 AM
You OGs need to chill out and let some of us rookies get on the board! I dont even have a Lealana or cas.

I'm trying to chill but all the hype about the mystery and suspense is causing me to FOMO and be less chilled out.

It's probably just smoothie's marketing strategy.  He's playing Cartmanland because he knows his audience! Cheesy

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