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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 04, 2015, 04:04:52 AM
He'll make blocks stop to generate coins; I hope miners stay mining.
I agree with you.
You'll need to find a solution to prevent someone will be able to get so much power over the (PoW) mining process.


sry for the confusion, there was a lot of discussion going on about the hashrate so it seems that i missed the info.
btw, i still find the calculation for coinamount in relation to hashrate one of the best things in whole crypto world.
but tittiecoiner is also right, it is not the way to go if somebody can concentrate hashrate and "kill" the coin.

... but i have no better solution at this time

I agree with you guys too. If we think of the situation further, it is complicated and the problem could be contradicted one to another. In a simple word, it is because magi intends to stay at low hashrate that makes chances for single person to plugin such a miner. According to prior discussions, I am not yet to see a chance to make simple algo switch to disable a super hashrate miner; for example, what if he owns a CPU mining farm, then there is no way to get rid of it with whatever algos. We could go for huge amount hashrate allowed by the network, like the bitcoin and then the hash of the current one is trivial; but I don't think this would be good to go.

Of course he could mine with GPU or FPGA too as people talked earlier. Certainly I'd like to work on this situation in whatever approaches we can take to deal with it, allow me some time to take serious look at it, but I've learned that this isn't that easy to make changes that disable them at all. But wait if one takes miners leaving as a killing (surely it sounds like very disappointing situation), that might be too earlier to say about that. Cheesy Well this needs a must work.
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 02, 2015, 11:05:55 PM
There came up a warning again about checkpoints "WARNING: Checkpoint is too old. Wait for block chain to download, or notify developers." This warning won't affect anything so just warning.  I'll take care of it at some time.
483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 02, 2015, 11:04:01 PM
testcc90cc   38,801   106.919
Confirmed   954.467146
Unconfirmed   9.501803

I don't know why big share mining but only a little...

Are you asking why such a large hashrate is producing so few coins?

The block reward adjusts according to the network hashrate, rising to a certain point, then quickly dropping if the hashrate gets too high. You can check out a plot of the block reward function on this site. Just keep in mind that the reward calculation is based on the hashrate over time, not the instantaneous hashrate.
Think hè gain better results mining another coin!


That's for sure but I guess it depends on what his goal is, he knows what the results are with his high hash rate, so I conclude he is doing this on purpose.

I totally agree with you. My guess it he isn't in for profit (he should have understood that he won't make profit this way). His real intention? There are several reasons to choose from.

He'll make blocks stop to generate coins; I hope miners stay mining.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: November 02, 2015, 11:00:24 PM
http://magipi.tk/

MagiPi  | The first COIN MAGI Pool on a RaspberryPi 

Nice Welcome in our awesome Magi community!!

Thanks for the pool; this is very nice and the logo is awesome. I noticed the download for linux minerd isn't linked properly which is now with the name m-minerd-32-linux.tar.gz on the page:

http://www.coinmagi.org/files/m-cpuminer/
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 28, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
goldlabel, Many thanks for the party and having some activities for magi, Smiley this is very nice.
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 27, 2015, 06:45:11 PM
If anyone is wanting to buy some XMG, it is going for 5500 satoshi on Cryptopia, 4790 satoshi on Cryptsy, and 4803 satoshi on Poloniex. Also, don't forget that it's up for voting on Bter. Any and all help is appreciated! If anyone knows of any other exchanges that have it up for voting, let me know! I'm wanting to throw as much help at this as possible. Thank you all!

Thanks. Also I'd like to see the idea of magi being forwarded to all people, and about any deficiency in the methodology.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 27, 2015, 06:42:58 PM
I am curious about the discussion of  FPGA; it's pretty impossible for me to make FPGA working on magi's algo. It needs to implement seven hash functions along with floating computation. Other than FPGA, there are many possibilities to have a huge amount of hashing, and you might not realize what's out there. I recalled NOBL got hard forked because people throw a GPU farm hash into a pool (you might know how high hash over the rest of network is needed to get hard fork) (and then they decided to go with pure PoS, so no one can ever mine it), and there are CPU farm too (it was the case when magi is launched, people try to manage a number of CPU cores in mining, like a farm), or a botnet which is not unlikely as well. I am guessing too, only cc90cc knows what testcc90cc meant and the intention.

Just pointed out on IRC:

Quote
14:04:34 <+Wolf`> joelao95: You don't implement an FPGA miner for an algo with ONE
                  chip
14:04:43 <+Wolf`> that's either ASIC prototyping, or retarded
14:13:26 <+Wolf`> joelao95: For a CHEAP, extremely effective FPGA miner for M7M (or
                  X11)
14:13:37 <+Wolf`> do several cheap FPGA chips on a custom board


there is new chip out, find the specs of it.. it will change all we know about mining.

if it is only one chip.. what a fuck!
the board has 10-20 chips.
luck, most people cant buy those, 16nm tech. (or was it even 14nm)

AntMiner S7 has no such chips, but it is coming soon..
we have soon lots of trash asics..

I guess I've to buy a FPGA at some point to get a feeling about it.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 27, 2015, 01:42:55 PM
I am curious about the discussion of  FPGA; it's pretty impossible for me to make FPGA working on magi's algo. It needs to implement seven hash functions along with floating computation. Other than FPGA, there are many possibilities to have a huge amount of hashing, and you might not realize what's out there. I recalled NOBL got hard forked because people throw a GPU farm hash into a pool (you might know how high hash over the rest of network is needed to get hard fork) (and then they decided to go with pure PoS, so no one can ever mine it), and there are CPU farm too (it was the case when magi is launched, people try to manage a number of CPU cores in mining, like a farm), or a botnet which is not unlikely as well. I am guessing too, only cc90cc knows what testcc90cc meant and the intention.
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 26, 2015, 04:49:14 PM
In my view, the block system worked. Ideally the reward should get back to the higher value right now to benefit the normal miners. This needs to be improved; the much varied difficulty basically makes the adjustment out of expectation in some conditions. What I can see is that, coins mined with big hasher are 10 times less than that without big hasher (it's like the network stops to generate coins); in other words, the majority of coins are shared among the normal miners. I think this is a good merit to the system overall, and helps stabilizing the price too.
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 26, 2015, 04:19:32 PM
We just passed 230 Mh/s, this is definitely not good.

Obviously dropped down back to normal values.. This was a nice test...
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 26, 2015, 02:18:12 AM
is it possible to make it POS only? we should for now..
its almost already it.. less than 0.65XMG/block

In my opinion, this isn't a good direction to go (I remembered pure PoS posts before back a few pages). PoW & PoS is most energetic imo.
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 26, 2015, 02:08:34 AM
You guys tell me you will work on it since days... what about doing it and not just talking about it?

Mining is just a hobby - but no one will burn money for nearly no reward!

2 options in my eyes:
...

Your suggestions are appreciated. Unfortunately I burned my time a little bit, I'll try to work on it as soon as I can.

1: Set a maximum of 60 MH/s Net-Hashpower - new miners have to wait until old ones stop mining

We do have a maximum right now; or you're speaking of other approaches for the limiation I'm not aware of?


2: Change the way how the reward is calclulated. It doesn't make any sense to lower the reward if the hashpower increses. All the other coins don't have such problems with the net-hashpower... so do what they do.

I'm afraid there is a concern by switching to this; we'll end up at huge network hash by the time, and people would not be able to use handy devices to mine. Bitcoin is an example.  


At least and as the easiest solution... just set a maximum of 300 KH/s for each mining worker. No single CPU has got more than 300 KH/s. Everything above must be GPU or something else.

I have no clue of setting maximum for individual, it is only the network hash that is seen.
493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 25, 2015, 09:34:17 PM
The reward is currently at 0 XMG/block according to SweetSpot. Does it mean that no XMG is mined every block, or that no block is mined ? This is quite strange that there is 106 MH/s when it is at 0 XMG/block and only 15 MH/s when the block reward is at 18XMG/block Huh. People is so illogical !
0 is wrong, it should be below 1; check here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xmg. The reason is that block adjusted based on difficulty which is very much varying from time to time. The block is designed to be sensitive to difficulty in a situation like for now, so that once the big miner quit, we'll hit somewhat big block. The essential reason is the very much varied difficulty.
494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 25, 2015, 09:16:51 PM
I believe you / miners should not place blunt trust in magi that we name a best. Though we like you be here, you're FREE to go. I can't tell you, ok here is the issue, and we have the solutions to conquer it. We're yet so intelligent to come up with PERFECT solutions to get around all of the issues; no. If you're disappointed by the situations so much, and then I'm sorry for this, some thing else will be a good fit to your needs of mining.

May there be serious situations coming up in the future frightens all of us and beat this coin down ever?

If you'd ask me how bad it is now, I'd say, not really. I really said here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.msg12724060#msg12724060

Of course we need improve the block, but I do have very serious situations to cope with before I can invest as much time as before into the coin works.

If you want to resist GPU only and likes this (at least it sounds it is) and really like to have ROI (daily / weekly base), go to else like yescript as few people talked that; to my knowledge it is now CPU mining, and there is GPU mining with not much advantages; but you never know real facts until they are disclosed (I believed many of us have seen things like that many times), but well you're aware of the botnet issue too.

I mentioned why we should stay low hashrate, and we should not go with memory enhanced algo either. Basically I don't like to say it until I can really bring up something. The advantage is to have low end machines coming along mining; a side effect is the low power consumption. You know what options are then? We can implement mining devices without much energy consumed and hence energy consumed not from your home electricity, but from some where, that means ZERO cost. Would this be a solution? Getting this ideally brings us many miners without worrying much the cost so much so that the miner base can "resist" professional miners.
495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 25, 2015, 06:08:55 PM

Might be the whole plan from cc90cc. Joining mining Magi when blockreward is good and leaving again when blockreward is low. Testing the power of the Magi community. Could somebody give me the info what the average coins a day is what he is mining?

The website show my mining 11xpcs/day.

Well I guess this is probably a must situation we'll come across, if not now, it will be likely in the future. Let's see how the things are going..
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 25, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
Unfortunately "The Big Brother" (google) decided to put end on Sweet Spot Magi Controller. Using their domination they included xmg.makejar.com website in "safe browsing filter". I tried to whitelist but I mentioned that they are using their domination position to silence me. Few hours later I was contacted by my host saying that he is going to close my website.
Unfortunately to preserve the website I'm removing the direct download links. If you want to use Sweet Spot you will have to either compile your own or download it via torrent.


More details at:
[...]

NeedIfFindIt, would you like to have VPS to host your stuffs? I'm not sure how I'll go with my VPS, but if you like this option, I'll try to make it happen.

Edit, the official site also have space to host if this an option too.
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 25, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
My 1.5 Mhash are now producing less than 5 XMG a day. Useless mining now, thanks to cc90cc. I will switch to yescrypt probably :/

@LordCoder and all others:

I'd like to bring up this post -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.msg12724060#msg12724060

If one cares about mining from day to day, it does make sense to have a mining calculator around; something like http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency would be a good one. Committing in magi won't get you something in a straight way than mining and selling immediately to maximize yield imo, as I did quite long time ago by switching mining coins from one to another.

There are no EFFECTIVE way to overcome the situation without compromising some important features of this coin as discussed in the above post.

If you're casual miners or don't care much about the short-term returns by investing mining few / tens of dollars per month (if you're committing hundreds then I guess not), I recommend staying mining as usual. This is an "EFFECTIVE" methodology I'd think right now regarding the situation.

I'm open to any ideas / questions / suggestions.
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 24, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.6360

Keep up the voting guys!
Magi passed peercoin in only two days!
Lets continue!!!!

If you are a newbie just make a post there telling your vote is for Magi.
Thanks in advance  Smiley
I've added my vote. Looks like we need a lot more help to get up there.

Keep it up.  Cheesy
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 24, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
I've added a new pull request on github for: code integrated from the hyperstake qt wallet by presstab with the addition of making the date input fields invisible unless a date range is being used.  Orphan stake values are added into the total.  If the “repairwallet” command removes orphans this issue of incorrect total would be fixed.

Translation: I added a “total” to the transaction view so that we can see the total from filtering by date, type or address in the transaction view of the qt wallet.  This should be usable in a future update once the code changes are approved.  Happy totaling. A big thanks to presstab for the original code. Smiley

Thanks, nice work, I'll check it out.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XMG] Coin Magi | CPU mining | PoS-II | PoM | Unique BLK reward | [MagiPay] on: October 23, 2015, 01:02:25 PM
Hey guys, I'm aware this is a bit off topic...but since we are discussing about mining and so on - I'm looking for a motherboard for AMD CPU, AM3+ socket.

I'm using a AMD FX8320 and have real trouble with oc (now I have really shitty mobo).

Max 100 €.

Been googleing and so on, but I'd like to hear also from you guys, since I'm pretty sure many of you use AMD CPUs.

You can also send me PM if you don't think its appropriate discussing it here.

Thanks,
brgds

This is the one I've come across: ASRock 990FX Extreme9 AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157358). It'll be advantageous along with GPU mining, typically 4 GPU I did. With AMD 8350 on this board, about 80 kh/s, no specific optimization. However, recently I found that AMD is kinda sh*t. After moving 8350 to another 'cheap' board, hash was down to about 50 kh/s. What's made me this feeling is that recently I used my laptop (with AMD) to compile few stuffs, which came out some sh*t, unportable to other machines/VB box (Illegal instructions), just waisted a lot time; while I set up a VB in my intel machine, everything just runs happily in all my home pcs. I'm not a tech in this side, can't figure why.

For CPU mining, I came across MSI H81M-P33 V2 LGA 1150 Intel H81 + i5 which produces about 70kh/s, very impressive, importantly producing much less heats. The board is really cheap compared to AMD. Simply load a Linux os in a flash driver, no need of any expensive components except $200 bucks i5; ofc you can run few GPU too.

@goldlabel, the game looks impressive, can't wait, I'll play it when I find time. Smiley

Ty for your answer.
I'm looking for mobo max 100 EUR, so that ASRock 990FX Extreme9 is a no-no Smiley

I think GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3P is kind the best under 100 EUR, will probably go with that.

This is nice too. I've been after hash monster with some investment on that which turned out nowhere smart.
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