I read your thread on the scam accusation forum (only OP, not all of it) and did not see any evidence of scam.
You can not say that they scam people, if you do not show that the website is rigged, or not paying winning players.
I am not saying that it is rigged, and get this through your thick skull. They claim to be provably fair, but they are not. They don't need to not pay winners to be a scam. They can make results more in the house's favor, and selectively target players. What's with this crusade you lost a lot of money there? If you did.. Just get drunk or get in a fight helps clear the system  Do you think I would go on this big of a rant and then go gamble there? No thanks, i'd rather throw money at newbie beggars, at least it'd be going to people that want it. |
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I lost my virginity, can I have yours?
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Is this kind of shit throwing thread actually allowed? Several people reported OP, but no action has been taken.
Hm, not that I care that much about it, but would be nice to make a point.
Is this kind of stupidity allowed? Several people have told you how stupid you are, but you haven't taken action. Not that I care much, but giving you negative trust would make a point. |
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thank you ill play and give a fair review, thanks. your a good Op for taking advice
People need to understand playing live games is much more fair then RNG, roll is effected by Potential and kinetic energy, force and etc is effecting the roll. Not the BS RNG system.
It can also be affected by magnets. OP is offering to come see, but it's in Ireland, and first we have to find somebody in Ireland we can trust who is willing it give up a few hours to go check this in which they can turn the device off. Provably fair dice sites are affected by client input and cryptographic functions, not the default RNG included in systems. Hi, what what you say is possible however it is a 24/7 operated casino and would not be in anyones interest (especially the casinos!) to have anything but a completely random result! -- also this feed has been used in real money online betting (see www.dublinbet.com operated by vuetec ltd ( www.vuetec.com) and actual gaming ltd ( www.actualgaming.com)) for 10 years! -- so it would stand to reason that many upon many have already checked. There is a significant and growing bitcoin community based in Dublin (we were actually at the party in the Baggot Inn down the road, where the first Bitcoin Beer was sold recently! first bar in Ireland to take bitcoins for beer and food) and im sure they would be happy to check it out for all concerned! That said however, please dont hesitate to check it all out for yourself  its an open door! Well it seems it would be in the casinos interest, as they would make money from people betting there. Or you could pay them to rig it when nobody is playing besides from online. But I ask that you not use the term provably fair, as you can't prove anything, and that term is generally associated with cryptography. |
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thank you ill play and give a fair review, thanks. your a good Op for taking advice
People need to understand playing live games is much more fair then RNG, roll is effected by Potential and kinetic energy, force and etc is effecting the roll. Not the BS RNG system.
It can also be affected by magnets. OP is offering to come see, but it's in Ireland, and first we have to find somebody in Ireland we can trust who is willing it give up a few hours to go check this in which they can turn the device off. Provably fair dice sites are affected by client input and cryptographic functions, not the default RNG included in systems. |
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Thanks mem, for adding us. If you need any help to verify us - please pm, most info located in our FAQ, also we plan to public JavaScript verifier on the jsfiddle Any time, I can also take requests for sites that are provably fair to have an independent result verifier for them. All such sites are on http://rgbkey.github.io/verifyWe would love to get into your listing, can you tell your requirements for adding us? There aren't any requirements other than being fully provably fair. I'll add you when I have time to make a page, just send me a PM. |
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http://www.bitdice.me added to pending (testing yay). realized I need a new category: Odds - added. added new status category: offline (sad to hear some of the good sites have gone). I'll keep smashing away but its nearly time for me to call it a night, shall resume tomorrow. I think my list is out of date enough that I really do need to keep adding sites and games manually (via webforms) until Im all caught up. Thanks for the helpful feedback. mem. Any time, I can also take requests for sites that are provably fair to have an independent result verifier for them. All such sites are on http://rgbkey.github.io/verify |
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Also I'm pretty sure dabs doesn't do his lotto anymore, and bitvegas is no more.
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Also, you still have Coin Chat listed. Lol.
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I'm sorry I started this o.o
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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!
@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat.
And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.
The whole "They can't afford to cheat" mindset is what gets people to lose money. Let me be clear, i am not accusing PD of anything, but people like you that think PD is too big to cheat is part of the problem. |
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No I cant tell the future but the outcome would have been different had it not happened (because the seed would not have changed) and that's all that matters.
I had small plans when I deposited and things were going well until the error threw me off and resulted in a quick and nasty bust. Not a fair way for me to have lost my btc.
Whether or not the former seed you used would have won or not is irrelevant. You knowingly took the risk to gamble with your money - and you lost. All that matters is that Stunna did not intentionally cheat you of a win (ie faking results/using known server and client combinations). Unless your claiming that he is not probably fair (ie that the rolls are correct given a specific client and server seed) then you don't have legs to stand on in this argument. But I would not have bet if I knew the seed had been changed so the bets were not fair. There was no mention after the error that it had been changed. Like it says on primedice, the client seed is very important in your roll results. I still have no explanation why this error happened. How do I know it was harmless? It happened at the worst possible time considering my past betting patterns (after 3x loss on 80%) Normally I would go all in at this time but the error just froze my betting. Patterns doesn't exist , 3x loss on 80% DOESN'T improve ur chance of wining 4th bet. That is only gamblers fallacy. And it doesn't warn u about seed change, coz it doesn't matter at all. Yes it will change outcome of that bet, but it will not change ur chance of wining that bet. U had same chance of wining it , without seed change or with it. And it had effect only on ur first bet after refresh, was that won or lost ? On bets after that MANY things had effect, but smallest effect had that seed change. Make peace with it already, it was not pd fault u lost that 12th bet. And that is 100% true. U can do provably fair, to prove that and that is it! And i can guarantee u 100% that u will not get ur money back. So just be done with it. I say again i am sorry for ur loss but what u asking here is just ridiculous , and we spammed this thread way to much talking nonsense. What is ur name, or id on pd ? Gamblers fallacy is irrelevant, if the error affected my betting it affected it. If it changes the outcome, the chance is changed... micro your opinion is just wrong. The client seed completely changed the outcome of all my rolls afterwards. I do not know what would have happened if it didn't occur. I likely would have gone all in at 80% at that time. Micro is right. It changed the outcome, but the chance was still the same. However, this is not the case if primedice is doing this maliciously, which is entirely possible. |
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Hmm your verifier doesn't work   Anything for bug hunting?  It works.. You attempted to verify the server hash which is a SHA 512 hash of the actual server seed. The secret seed and client seed need to be used. To get the server seed, expand your bet row after it was placed by clicking on it. The client seed, the secret seed, and SHA 512 hash will added to it. Copy and paste the secret and client seed into RGBkey's verifier. I will contact RGBKey to see if he can add the hash to it so you can check the hash against ours. On it. |
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Isn't it a crime to make fake legal threats? If they don't actually attempt to bring charges against you in a reasonable time frame, don't you have a case against them for pain/suffering as well as legal fees for the lawyer that you should reasonably be putting on retainer now?
He doesn't know who I am so it doesn't matter. I think the amount of negative attention that Ritz got from go form numerous people didn't give him or her much of an option but to respond. I haven't followed this matter that much and I don't plan to defend how this issue was handled I just wanted to state my basic feelings and opinions of this. He has responded many times, and extremely childishly. He is getting negative attention because of how he handles things, and because his casino is not actually provably fair, which I've explained multiple times in this thread. But if you know his casino is not legit, why don't you just stop using it? You can make a thread and all, but people that find it good will still use it, and people that don't won't. You think you're some kind of hero but really you're making no difference. Don't get me wrong, I haven't used the casino so I can't tell, just making a point. I'm not sure he does use it, but the point is it's not good according to RGBKey and in his opinion people are potentially being scammed by using it, therefore he's calling out a scam/scammer. He's just trying to warm people to that. Well so far I've seen no proof from his side, so it's word against word. Other users of RGC seem satisfied with the service. I'm not the one that needs to give proof, it's RGC. The way he says his casino is prvably fair does not document anything, other than basically telling you they aren't cheating you. They have some BS in there about how "they get the numbers from random.org so there is a 0% chance we are scamming you". They cannot prove the numbers are random and not stacjed. They do not say how they come up with the results from the number. Any "client seed" you enter might as well just be a number you put in there to make you feel better. Not to mention the horrible security oractices, including limiting the keyspace for user passwords, emailing passwords in plaintext. Why would you gamble here when there are other casinos that are actually provably fair and have owners that don't act like children? |
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