I have stated my thoughts on the subject in your scam accusations thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582687.0
The current provably fair system is a joke. Your thread is also a joke.
You calling me an idiot is another joke.
Leaving me this "Shill for casinos that are not provably fair" as negative feedback is another joke.

I never said LN is provably fair. I don't run the site. My discussion is about the system itself, as it's not foolproof.
You are not interested in honest discussion and I called you out on this, with all fairness.

Your comeback is mediocre, dishonest and rather silly.
Yet you just proved your lack of arguments. I'm done with you.

I am being accused by RGBKey for being a shill for LN while trying to discuss the current provably fair system.

I never claimed that Lucky Number is provably fair.
My point is that the provably fair systems implemented in all dice websites don't protect the user 100% when it comes to fairness.

We need a new system.

I stick to my opinion and if you don't agree I would prefer you leaving me alone instead of calling me an idiot and leaving me negative trust.

Would you stop your trolling?

I have tried to discuss this with you in another thread to which you gave no response. All you know how to say is "it's not provably fair".
Do you even understand how all the current provably fair systems are all crap?
Even under the ones you claim to be fair there is room for manipulation.
Your affiliation with other dice games and your lack of intelligent arguments under this topic is making you into a fool.
A broader vision into the terms, and I can claim that the dices you protect are not provably fair because they cannot prove 100% of the bets are not manipulated. Isn't that what provably fair is all about?

Don't be so limited. If you really wanted a discussion about the system you would make an honest thread about it.
All you can do is to post scam accusations without proof.

You can say that again.

I know there were a few critical voices in the start but LuckyNumber is developing quickly and efficiently.
Problems/bugs are dealt with in no time, support is great, new developments and improvements come in weekly.

I see players in the chat very enthusiastic. The number of bets is also outstanding for such a short-life.
Rains happen everyday - yes, EVERY DAY - either by admin or by other users. It has been like this since day 1.

Little details keep on being added when no one is expecting, so we can really see care for the business.

And still, site is in negative. Who would say that?

So, when can I start selling my terabytes of space? I'm about to go and buy 49 hard drives which will connect to my 49 port USB hub.

Do I get paid in bitcoin? Can I be anonymous?

I have a stupid question: How do you pronounce "Storj"?

well when I take a look at their high bets it doesn't look like they are scammers and manipulating



That guy made over 5BTC in 8min

Sure thing. But I'd risk to say that 99.9% of the players on PD, for example, do not change client seed every bet.
Is it not - statistically - the same room for manipulation on both sites? Considering that both can, at their will, manipulate the rolls. The thing is that they don't. The problem is on the system itself, they have different provably fairs, and hopefully they can both change them one day, when a new system arrives that is more foolproof than now.

It's almost a linguistics question. People are saying that LN can't affirm it's provably fair because they cannot prove it's fair. But PD can't prove its fair system either, if client seed is not changed. Yet they are provably fair? 
I think there are accusations being made that are pointless, yet very serious because they are alarming users that don't understand how this fair system works.

Truth is we need a new system, to end up all this misunderstandings.
I'm pretty much sure that PD and LN are not manipulating anything, though.

Saying that something can be rigged doesn't prove it is rigged . Yes it has flaws , but every system has flaws , every system can be rigged.
But that doesnt mean or prove it is rigged.

RGB, I made a new thread about it but was curious if you knew anything about the Itech Labs RNG that casinos using Soft swiss software are using. These websites only have a certificate from this company claiming fairness. Is this in anyway trustworthy? any info would be much appreciated.

I'll answer to the best of my knowledge.
There is a clock issue that will most probably fixed soon. It might be caused by lack of processing power since the site is pretty heavy. Causes it to stutter or to run late or early if you run it side by side in different browsers/computers.
Using server time in provability fair system seems fine with me. Showing it the ms in the website rolls, or removing ms from its betID checker will shut up those hating voices.

Tech stuff apart, that thread is confusing and not helpful at all. I am looking to understand this issue properly and I believe RGBKey is providing room for accusations instead of really helping out users. I just wonder sometimes why he mostly attacks PD competitors. But that's another issue.

Cheers

And now you are stalking them. You could ask them to provide the info to a third party, or a respected member of the forum.
Have you explicitly done so? I mean, you might be saying that you can do it for them, but why should they trust you, its normal not to, since you started a crusade against them.

You took it upon yourself to fuck up their trust, although there has been no issue with either users in their site, or with users in here.
Just you, saying that they are not provably fair. I understand your point, but you cant be a judge and a juror at the same time.

Please RGB, dont misunderstand me, but you look like you are abusing trust now.
You have yet to provide a single shred pointing out to flaws, until then you are probably after their sig campaign.
If there is no proof of wrongdoing, you are merely stalking someone on your "gut" feelings.

Seriously uncool, take care.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Whenever you see a site that says they are provably fair, please ask them to prove it. By definition, they should be able to. If they cannot or otherwise avoid the question, assume they are not provably fair and look to steal your money. A great example of this behavior is RitzGrandCasino, who is fond of making new accounts to dodge negative trust, and making all of their topics self moderated.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.