I think that can be said with most of the altcoins on coinchoose. People arnt supporting coins they like because they see profits from the others. But those profits are usually artificially calculated. All you have to do is correlate the network hashes per sec for any coin that is number 1 on the list at coinchoose.   I completely agree with you though about it being sad people will dump their coin at a loss because they didnt take the time to factor in energy cost all because a website says its 200% more profitable then bitcoin. But what do I know?

IMHO block rates are not the most important factor to be worrying about in calculating true profitability.  Not saying it is irrelevant, but for me it is not the biggest issue.  Right now for me coinwarz is the best site, but ALL the mining info sites are still lacking one thing I would like to see...

As a miner I find that profit factor "right now" in such a volatile market is pretty much useless.  What's the point of mining whatevercoin at 150% profitability if that 150% is going to drop to 40% in less than 12 hours?  Not to mention the price went down 80% from where it was 12 hours ago and now I'm lucky to even sell the coins at all.  This makes the "150% profit factor" a complete sham.  The reason Coinwarz is superior is the fact that it provides an indication of how much the difficulty and price fluctuate.  This at least helps a miner make a more intelligent decision about what to mine...because if I see a coin at the top of the list with 150% profit factor but a wildly fluctuating difficulty and price, I stay away.  This is why I mainly stick to mining Novacoin...even before I discovered Coinwarz (just a few days ago)...because the difficulty and price seem to stay more stable.  Without any real numbers on LONG TERM AVERAGE profitability, I am just guessing...so NVC is the safest bet, other than BTC or LTC of course.

What would make coinchoose #1 imho?  Having an AVERAGE PROFITABILITY stat...say for the last 14 days or 30 days or whatever.  Coinwarz shows averages for difficulty and price, but it still involves a fair bit of guesswork to find the most stable profit...or at least which of the newer coins has a better average than the others.  I know, I know, the chart on coinchoose shows historical data...but first, it is not an average (though it could be used in a similar fashion to the coinwarz averages, if you could read it)...second, you can't read it.  There are so many lines on the chart it is illegible.  Third, it is only 24 hours...which is useless.  Even if you took the existing chart format and used a longer time period and maybe split all the coins into individual charts or 4 or 5 coins per chart (so you could read the damn thing), would be very useful.  But I think even better would be to have some way of ranking by average profit factor over a longer time period.  Then the user can choose whether to mine for "Ms Right" or "Ms Right Now"...or "Ms Right Now Adjusted".  

Have you tried 1034core/1500memclock for scrypt? That's what got me to 730-740 per 7970...

Sal. Can't keep chart sorted by "Adjusted Profitability". When I sort by highest AP, it reverts back to high to low via normal profitability... Any insight?

Can you add coin calculator to coinchoose? Right now i have to check coinchoose then go to coinwarz to see how many coins I can mine a day. Maybe you could do a collaboration with coinwarz where they give u a widget to be placed on ur site.

How are you determining current block rates?  I assumed you were just taking the coins target block rate, the reality is usually quite different and quite dynamic, you'd need to average the last 20-30 blocks to get a good estimate.

Calculate adjusted profitability by looking at the present hash rate and adjust for orphan blocks based on the block internal per the curve described earlier 5/block_interval_in_seconds.  All coins should have this adjustment including BTC which has been over target block times for some time now.

Coins running at very slow block rates would actually see their adjusted profitability increased (by a tiny amount) by this calculation and it would dynamically adjust as block rates change.

I agree it seems a little quick to just make the change. When we calculated the 60%, it was multiple miners and pool operators that had agreed on the number. Again, this was in the very low difficulty days, and im pretty sure that number has changed to 90% since then. Running more tests to confirm, will take a couple days.

The luckycoin block reward minimum is 88 coins.  You should factor in formula for the probability of hitting a higher reward into the profitability against BTC.   

http://worldcoinforum.org/topic/41-everyone-recieves-60-of-estimated-rewards/ - Has this been implemented?

Can u fix the difficulty of the alt coins?  They are blowing up the difficulty when profitabilityvis 1/2 stated on the site.

Can you add global hashrate to the coins.  that would be a good feature to have.

Your site is great but this is not good for the coin or the community.

Sal, you've fixed TRC floating difficulty, thanks for that, but today I noticed another problem - DGC difficulty doesn't update correctly, at this moment it is 4.672, but your site still displays old diff 3.06, and so on profitability displayed is incorrect too...
And this is happening for hours already, it's secondary diff retarget already...

notice the # of giveaways here, esp mika above, compared to my 100 give away. See? I gave more than required.  Giveaway is now closed.

Yes its out of my own pocket. If anyone has a buncha and want to donate, the donation and bounty addr is EPQGSoqhszJM8xHzAXZ7HBYH7x9sRYm6Qp.

Sounds fair in some ways I spose...

it's a tricky thing to value - you say it values on a significant BTC equiv order, what if the market is too small to meet the minimum total BTC value on the buy side, how is that handled?

but if the buy price was HIGHER, the trade would execute and _DROP_ the valuation of the coin to the next (possibly much lower) bidder, even though it just performed much higher. so i think it's unfair to ignore previous trades and asking prices.