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561  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Trading Bot: >> iTrader - Mt.Gox+BTC-e supported / Available with source + more! on: June 19, 2013, 09:10:46 PM
Insisting that a software vendor use escrow is laughable.

My insistence is not due to the fact that this is a software vendor.  It is due to the fact that at least the last three in a row software vendors that offered similar software for similar prices and had similar new members aaying how good it looked took the money and never gave a product (or even proved one existed besides screenshots).  Given that back-drop, I highly disagree that it is laughable.  And I know John K (who is well respected in this forum) would do so.  Plus MANY software development sites enforce a type of escrow prior to releasing payment.

So, I repeat my offer, full price, escrow thru John K and I will report back to all whether it works or there is malware involved.  Can't see the downside here to the developer - he gets paid in full and a respected forum member here handles the escrow, more sales will come if I report it is legit.  Really only reason to worry is that the legit part is absent - hopefully not.

That being said, firefops proposal would also work.

562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans on: June 19, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
EDITTED - I guess unless the ARG group tells me to keep it up with a 3, probably just easier to remove it.  ARG fits more into the YAC realm as not a coin that makes sense on CC.  Maybe Coinwarz will put it up.
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans on: June 19, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
A bit different as difficulty targets are also updated on the site and those sites showing nextdifficulty have a different purpose (and more than just based on chance as to what that difficulty will be).

I guess what I can do is see if the code in ARG provides any guidance as to the actual distribution of the random block reward and figure that in.  Or, better yet, have a ARG-AVG coin on my chart that is the predicted profitability of ARG assuming the average block award.

The larger issue is if I provide an inflated profitability, people get mad when they mine and don't get that.  If I deflate it - less mad.  Right now, those who know ARG can look at my chart and say - "So CC is saying 45% profitability but they base that off a reward of 1, so if I multiple that to be the reward I assume it to be 3, than it is 45% * 3".
Again, who the fuck is solo mining this coin? No one. Pooled average will be 3 coins per block. And if someone decides to solo mine this coin, they will surely have enough hashing power that it will average out to 3.

Point taken.  I may as well just take it down again since really no way to tell the profitability of this coin.
You act like people mine 1 block and then stop? If they are pool mining (which is 99.9% of the people that use your site), mining for even just 30 minutes will equate to an average of 3 coins per block.

This is not difficult.

No - it is difficult.  There was a thread about creating a CC-proof coin that would make the profitability number inaccurate.  One of the suggestions was do to EXACTLY what this coin is doing as far as random block reward.  

I really don't see the issue with having a 1 block reward - you believe the average is 3, so why can't you just multiple the number times 3?  Maybe someone else has done an analysis and found the true distribution of block rewards favors 2.6 or 3.5 on average.  I believe it is best to state the low end which is basically the guaranteed block reward.  If ARG guaranteed at least three coins per block or if any pool said (no matter what - you get 3 blocks per block), I would move it to 3.  This coin isn't designed that way, so I have to go on the low end.

I had this same argument with LuckyCoin which also has random block rewards and still believe I'd rather undervalue than overvalue. 

I need more than just that the average MIGHT be 3.  I need that it is. 

564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans on: June 19, 2013, 07:03:42 PM
A bit different as difficulty targets are also updated on the site and those sites showing nextdifficulty have a different purpose (and more than just based on chance as to what that difficulty will be).

I guess what I can do is see if the code in ARG provides any guidance as to the actual distribution of the random block reward and figure that in.  Or, better yet, have a ARG-AVG coin on my chart that is the predicted profitability of ARG assuming the average block award.

The larger issue is if I provide an inflated profitability, people get mad when they mine and don't get that.  If I deflate it - less mad.  Right now, those who know ARG can look at my chart and say - "So CC is saying 45% profitability but they base that off a reward of 1, so if I multiple that to be the reward I assume it to be 3, than it is 45% * 3".
Again, who the fuck is solo mining this coin? No one. Pooled average will be 3 coins per block. And if someone decides to solo mine this coin, they will surely have enough hashing power that it will average out to 3.

Point taken.  I may as well just take it down again since really no way to tell the profitability of this coin.
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans on: June 19, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
A bit different as difficulty targets are also updated on the site and those sites showing nextdifficulty have a different purpose (and more than just based on chance as to what that difficulty will be).

I guess what I can do is see if the code in ARG provides any guidance as to the actual distribution of the random block reward and figure that in.  Or, better yet, have a ARG-AVG coin on my chart that is the predicted profitability of ARG assuming the average block award.

The larger issue is if I provide an inflated profitability, people get mad when they mine and don't get that.  If I deflate it - less mad.  Right now, those who know ARG can look at my chart and say - "So CC is saying 45% profitability but they base that off a reward of 1, so if I multiple that to be the reward I assume it to be 3, than it is 45% * 3".

566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans on: June 19, 2013, 06:16:43 PM
Because there is a chance the next block is 1.  To assume three will definitely inflate the numbers, which I would rather err on the side of deflating.
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans on: June 19, 2013, 04:54:25 PM
Sorry - already there (but its value is only evident to those who understand the random block reward as I have the reward defaulting to 1).
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins on: June 19, 2013, 11:56:26 AM

can't understand a chinese api  Grin

Can't find an API at all there Smiley  I don't think it has one.
569  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Trading Bot: >> iTrader - Mt.Gox+BTC-e supported / Available with source + more! on: June 19, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?

It is not just the malicious code bit - most (all) of them took money and never produced anything.
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins on: June 19, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
Please Add RealCoin to coinchoose.com, realcoin is now on the exchange platform: https://btcltc.com

That exchange doesn't meet my requirement of having an API. 
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins on: June 19, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
Where is megacoin ??

It is there.Right now at 128%
572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins on: June 19, 2013, 01:51:50 AM
Your Hypercoin data appears to be based on an outdated pre-fork client. Good data is at http://explorer.hycco.in/chain/Hypercoin but the coin appears to be dead. About 2 days with no blocks.

Fixed.
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CoinChoose - alternative site to show respective profitability of the alt coins on: June 19, 2013, 01:33:47 AM
argentum will have an average of  a 3 coin reward per block based on the random reward system of 1 - 5.

it shouldn't be 1 coin per block like it is indicated on your site.

(1+5)/2 = 3.



Just have to agree to disagree.  If there is any probability that the next block mined would be 1, then that is what I should have on the site.  I need to be conservative.
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Nibble (NBL) Trade On Cryptsy.com **Update Your Conf File*** on: June 19, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
Does Nibble have this issue - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124303.msg2515204#msg2515204 ?
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] New Crypto Currency FRANKO on: June 19, 2013, 12:52:29 AM
Potential code issue listed here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124303.msg2515204#msg2515204
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DGC] DigitalCoin.Co | Instant | Stable | Reliable | Usable for Purchases on: June 19, 2013, 12:52:01 AM
Might want to verify DGC doesn't have this code issue - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124303.msg2515204#msg2515204
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Doubloons: Cryptocurrency for Pirates [6/10 - Cryptsy DBL vs LTC!] on: June 19, 2013, 12:51:25 AM
FYI - see here about a potential code issue - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124303.msg2515204#msg2515204
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MEMEcoin- Exchange, Updated Info and Store Items on: June 19, 2013, 12:50:59 AM
FYI - see here about a code issue in MEMECoin  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124303.msg2515204#msg2515204
579  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there a pure crypto currency exchange? on: June 18, 2013, 10:56:25 PM
Cryptsy.com
BTER.com
MCXNow.com

(among the one already listed above).  There are numerous exchanges.
580  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Trading Bot: >> iTrader - Mt.Gox+BTC-e supported / Available with source + more! on: June 18, 2013, 10:30:54 PM
As this is in the Newbie forum - I just advise everyone to use escrow, if possible.  I know this seller says no way on it, so you just have to assume the risk that you will get nothing (like the three other currency trading bots that have been posted over the past two or three months) Smiley.  However, this seller has been active - so who knows?

I urge the OP to reconsider their refusal at going thru escrow - it just protects us all (and I know would lead to a sale or two almost instantly as I see there have been no sales so far).
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