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1261  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Water Cooling: (Virtually) Unlimited Cooling Capacity on: August 02, 2011, 05:23:46 AM
I'd love to see pictures of your setup, but the link is just to 'here' ;-)
Ooops.  Fixed the link, and here it is again: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3707.msg53879#msg53879
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In my personal case, I have excess heat I'd love to re-use to heat up water, but I don't like the idea of running a liquid into my servers, especially long term, a leak would cause damage (one side: the flooding, next: all systems overheating). And right now I can just move them around, no hoses attached. Two of them are in the
bathroom and dry laundry ;-)
It's not much water in a normal water cooling system.  My system, as pictured there, has only 3l in total.  Floor included.  More now, but the computer is placed above the water line.  No water will leak out inside the computer.  In case of a leak, only air will leak in.
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Wouldn't it be far cheaper to keep the machines as they are: pumping out hot air and getting a heat pump water boiler that takes this hot air and that way recover the energy?
No.  Water has 1400 times the heat capacity than air, and is a much better heat conductor.  You need to pump a lot of air through your system and the heat pump, and this costs energy.  And the heat pump uses energy as well, of course.
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Perhaps the energy balance is better with water as a direct energy exchanger than with air? With water cooling, you have a pump running all the time. With a heat pump, you need to pump in 1 kW of electricity to get 3 kW of hot water. Pro's and cons all around...
The water pump use less energy than the fans which used to cool my system, and the system itself uses less energy because it runs cooler.  A heat pump is much less efficient, as you have discovered.  It will take 2 kW from the air and 1 kW of power to supply 3 kW to the water, and when the water is hot enough, your air temperature will rise quickly unless you have a temporary heat storage to put it in.
1262  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Water Cooling: (Virtually) Unlimited Cooling Capacity on: August 01, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
You're right!
But i'm still gonna come up with some idea to use this heat!
Here is one.

I have connected my boiler as well.  An old boiler is used for temporary heat storage, and water is circulated through a heat exchanger mounted on the input to the boiler in my house.  When there is a temperature difference between cooling water going in to the heat exchanger and coming out of it, indicating that heat is consumed (hot water used), a pump switches on to force more water through the heat exchanger.  The water is pre heated by my miner before it enters the boiler.  I'm installing floor heating in my living room as well now.  The old floor is almost out, and I expect to build the new floor next week.
1263  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mt Gox having issues again on: August 01, 2011, 06:19:40 PM
The price dropped about $0.10/BTC over 3 days. For about 12 hours, Mt. Gox seems to have had problems.

It's not clear if the above chart reflects any "rollbacks" performed by Mt. Gox.
The dip happened during normal trading.  No problems at mtgox there.  There was a problem for a few minutes yesterday, but it was resolved very quickly.  MtGox explains it here.

Before everyone jump to other exchanges, keep the fates of bitomat and mybitcoin in mind.  I think MtGox has proven to keep both bitcoins and money safe in spite of troubles.  This time a small bug was immediately visible to all and solved within minutes.
1264  Economy / Economics / Re: 10k BTC bid wall...Is this activity normal? on: July 10, 2011, 08:48:13 PM
Bid wall is back!

15:04:39 > Add Bid 6000 @ 15

What are they playing at?!?!
Buying coins?  About 4000 sold to the bid by now.  Less than 2000 left.  The wall is picked down brick by brick.
1265  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Heard about Bitcoin on Aljazeera on: July 10, 2011, 02:17:21 PM
I have mixed feelings about this.  Any news about bitcoins spreading around is good but Al Jazeera has a very bad anti-American reputatation.
They do?  It does not reflect in their journalism.
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They went out of their way to tell the terrorist side of the story in Iraq
You need to give references on that.  I've never seen any signs of support for terrorism on Al Jazeera.  In fact Al Jazeera were the only news channel giving an independent view of the invasion of Iraq.  The rest were either following US troops or controlled by Iraq.  I'm sure this annoyed The USA, which answered by bombing their office in Baghdad, killing a journalist.  In the spirit of "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.", I guess. :-(
1266  Economy / Economics / Re: 10 EU vs 10 USD on: July 09, 2011, 08:03:13 PM
Bitcoin has dropped occasionally down to 10 USD, but is remaining stable around 10 EU. Is 10 a psychosocial number for BTC? If this is a trend, then why is it significant? What other numbers will be significant?
Yah whaa?  Been well above 13USD all today while I've checked it.
For your information 10 EUR is 14.27 USD, which is where the Bitcoin price has been all day by a margin of only 3%.  It may be a psychological level.  Miners may not want to sell below 10 EUR, and buyers don't want to buy above.
1267  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lawyer Trying To Trademark Bitcoin Explains His Legal Theory on: July 09, 2011, 06:53:26 PM
I would certianly like to see Michael Pascazi sanctioned.
I opened up a website called Michael S. Pascazi is a scammer!
Isn' that the URL for Pascazi Law Offices?

Shouldn't hurt to register Michael S. Pascazi as a trademark for swindle everywhere either.  Or human feces and other things which one naturally associate the name with.  Perhaps only Pascazi, in case it can be disputed if we use the full name.  "Pascazi the retarded lawyer" action figures could be a hit.
1268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Al jazeera English showing Bitcoin piece in regular news rotation on: July 08, 2011, 12:58:14 AM
What you as Americans should be up in arms about is the fact that you can't access it... In the land of the free :-)
You must be kidding?  Why can't Americans access the only viewable English language 24 hour news channel?  I find it hard to believe that Al Jazeera leaves America out?

CNN and the like is just commercials interrupted by weather reports and short, shallow and totally uninteresting news headlines.  Al Jazeera has real content most of the time, gets the news out faster and goes more in depth.  Al Jazeera has an amazing ability to be where the news happens when it happens (I often wonder if they are psychic), and the story is over before the other channels gets there and pretend it's news.  During the Israeli attack on Gaza, Al Jazeera were the only media in the war zone, etc.  And they are less biased than most other media.  Not speculating or having biased people analyse things to much, and instead telling and showing what is really happening.  Al Jazeera is the best 24 hour news channel ever.  Far better than all competition.  Americans should demand that Al Jazeera start transmitting to North America.
1269  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The fake bid wall at $12 vanished...now watch the one at $11 vanish. on: July 05, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
So..  How about the one at $14, which is holding the price back now?
1270  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shout Out To AnonX For The 37.5 BTC Fo' FREE on: July 04, 2011, 08:13:53 PM
You rock cuddle muffin.  Don't play with your daddy again.
I feel very sorry for you and your family, Foodst4mp.  I really do. :-(  Just return the stolen coins.
1271  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: python OpenCL bitcoin miner on: July 03, 2011, 09:33:17 PM
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and I get ERRORS!!!!
what a fuck should I do?
You could start by revealing the error message.  On Linux error messages are actually useful, and often it says exactly what the error is.  At least to a trained eye.
1272  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: further improved phatk OpenCL kernel (> 2% increase) for Phoenix - 2011-07-01 on: July 03, 2011, 06:22:12 PM
Hello,

you might want to change this

Code:
#define sharound(n) { t1 = t1(n); Vals[(131 - n) % 8] += t1(n); Vals[(135 - n) % 8] = t1(n) + t2(n); }

to

Code:
#define sharound(n) { t1 = t1(n); Vals[(131 - n) % 8] += t1; Vals[(135 - n) % 8] = t1 + t2(n); }

This got me a 25% performance increase!
Seems good, but it brings no gain for me ... weird. Will look into this and perhaps re-use your idea, if I may Smiley.
Can only think of a good compiler optimization...
It is not obvious that this will gain anything.  On the contrary, unless the compiler optimize it away, it makes the second and third instruction dependant on the first.  This is bad on a GPU which issues 4 or 5 instructions in parallel every clock cycle.
1273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Attention! This address is stealing BTC now! on: June 29, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
A possible leak is that I used same account name and password at MtGox and Dropbox, from the first, the password is compromised, and from the last, the wallet backup is stolen, even though I zipped the wallet file with a long password...
You knew about this, and didn't move your coins to a new wallet!?  If your zip file was password protected using the old standard zip password protection, it is vulnerable to a known plaintext attack.  Your wallet.dat contains many known strings of sufficient length.  Cracking it takes a few minutes at most on a normal desktop computer, no matter how long your password is.
1274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Attention! This address is stealing BTC now! on: June 29, 2011, 09:23:35 PM
my client sent 0.46 btc to this address today.. by itself.
Sure it was sent by your client, or did you store your wallet.dat somewhere else as well?  Look up the transaction ID in blockexplorer, and search for the first 20 bytes of it in debug.log.  (It is in ~/.bitcoin/ under Linux.  Have no idea where Wintendo stores it.)  If you see an "askfor tx transactionid" somewhere, the transaction was initiated by someone with a copy of your wallet.dat.  It looks like your own, because you have the same wallet.
1275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cracked Passwords List Leaked, were you cracked? on: June 29, 2011, 12:45:40 AM
With unsalted passwords you can run through the wordlist once, and get all matching passwords with a single MD5 run for each word in your wordlist.  It doesn't matter for one single password, but for 60000 salting means 60000 times more work.
Since it is extremely unlikely that all 60000 passwords were the same, you still have to brute force the rest.
Huh?
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If you assume a more reasonable 3000 passwords that are either identical or the same as the mail address for example, the difference between everything salted or not is only 60/57=5% more work.

Salting only (significantly) helps against rainbow tables.
I don't think you got it.

Hashing a billion password candidates once with MD5 is no problem for today's computers.  To brute force 60000 unsalted passwords, you would just need one run through the candidates, making one hash for each candidate.  After one billion runs, you have cracked all passwords in your list of candidates.

To brute force 60000 salted passwords with unique salts, you need to run a more complex MD5 algorithm on all the salt + candidate combinations.  Even if you assume the same time for each test, it will take 60000 times longer to check all candidates against all hashes.  If the password is found for a candidate hash, you don't have to try the rest of the candidates for it, but you will probably not find as many passwords as you think.

Yes, a few people use their username or mail address as password.  Those would be cracked in seconds on anything with the computing power of a digital watch, no matter how they were hashed.  Don't worry about those.  Most of the passwords will likely not be among your candidates at all.
1276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cracked Passwords List Leaked, were you cracked? on: June 29, 2011, 12:03:23 AM
And the uncracked password list that was released had the salts along with each password, so being 'salted' or 'unsalted' shouldn't matter...
Yes, it matters.  A lot.  Salted means you have to crack each password individually.  You have to run through the entire list of candidates (until a match) for each and every salted password (given unique salts).  With unsalted passwords you can run through the wordlist once, and get all matching passwords with a single MD5 run for each word in your wordlist.  It doesn't matter for one single password, but for 60000 salting means 60000 times more work.  And salting renders rainbow tables useless, because you'd have to build one rainbow table for each possible salt.
They solved one simple md5 pass, and then used the given salts to get any password instantly.  Or am I not understanding how this works....
You do not understand it at all.  Read kjj's post for a more detailed explanation of how the salting works.
1277  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reporting Mt. Gox to the Japan Financial Services Agency on: June 28, 2011, 06:13:06 PM
sturle, I may be wrong on this one, but I guess that when you're incorporated in a jurisdiction you have to follow the legislation of that jurisdiction, regardless of where your servers and bank accounts are located.
It is far more complicated than that.  A company incorporated in  The Netherlands can't come to my country, open a brothel and sell cannabis, because it is illegal here.  But a company incorporated in my country can open a coffee shop and sell cannabis and prostitutes in Amsterdam, because it is legal there.  It is not only about where the company is incorporated.  Where the business is being done is more important.  For tax reasons as well.  It is not obvious to me that MtGox should register with the Japan Financial Services Agency as long as they don't offer any financial services in Japan, but I assume a foreign bank which offer such services in Japan would have to register.

I don't know the history behind E-gold.  According to Wikipedia they operated and offered their services from Florida, USA.
1278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cracked Passwords List Leaked, were you cracked? on: June 28, 2011, 05:39:32 PM
And the uncracked password list that was released had the salts along with each password, so being 'salted' or 'unsalted' shouldn't matter...
Yes, it matters.  A lot.  Salted means you have to crack each password individually.  You have to run through the entire list of candidates (until a match) for each and every salted password (given unique salts).  With unsalted passwords you can run through the wordlist once, and get all matching passwords with a single MD5 run for each word in your wordlist.  It doesn't matter for one single password, but for 60000 salting means 60000 times more work.  And salting renders rainbow tables useless, because you'd have to build one rainbow table for each possible salt.
1279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cracked Passwords List Leaked, were you cracked? on: June 28, 2011, 04:51:34 PM
The fact that a password is in this list doesn't imply that it was cracked. As finack said, the complex passwords were probably stolen by some other means - e.g. phishing - and happened to be reused.
Yep.  This is definetly a wordlist crack from both mangled words and leaked or phished passwords from other sites.  I can say that with 100% certainty because my own password isn't on the list.  My old Mt.Gox password was set for testing the new exchange at a time when a bitcoin was worth a few cents.  I used it on BBSes in the eighties, and it is very far from secure to modern standards.  Not even the nineties standard, I'd say.
1280  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Ok. Now it is official - Mtgox STEALING bitcoins on: June 28, 2011, 01:48:44 PM
use tradehill.com!

MTGOX STEALING MONEY!
Promotion of one specific exchange (among many possible), and claims of official money theft at the largest competitor in the same post.  Looks very suspect to me.  Are you Baron in disguise, now affiliated with TradeHill?

BTW, this is the first time I see mtgox split an amount after only four confirmations, but I don't have that many examples.
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