Community manager Reuben will make a public statement about the founders' wallet. I'm doing my research so I know which wallet is from Gary. And he admits that too. Is it true that each balance holders amount in sent and received transactions and current balance is publicly viewable? How is this different from Bitcoin? It's a very good question indeed. Actually they could erase the trace of these wallets but if they do so, there will be a FUD fest. Anonymity is important feature of Zcoin, but not with sensitive info like founders' wallets IMHO. |
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@zcoinofficial, who are you? it seems you are not the dev,only someone's from internet having access to this thread. Am i wrong? Why dev leave also this thread to a third community parties?
Yesterday 1 block before fork either poramin or gary were missing in slack. Is this a "serious" way to act and atract investors?
And why everytime someone's ask something you always answers "it's fud". shame.
When devs funds started to drain with dump from gary, you were posted "it's alla okay, it's only anon bounties, noone dev is dumping, stop fud".
Then...
You have to protect investors.
oh Jeremy the old troll. You're still here? I saw u're trolling everywhere. Funny. Okay in this coin there is no place for Gary anymore. I don't know where he is, if you're missing him just feel free to ping him. I'm sure u're joining the wrong slack, get to the new slack here: http://invite.zcoin.finance:3000/Poramin and people in the team are watching the fork and fixing it right when they saw the problem, but due to the problem of slowly initial opening of the daemon, it took longer than expected. Network is healthy now. Btw i admit that's not a good time to hardfork since many people are in holidays. There is no real investors.
These devs.. they manage all 6 "founder accounts"
Fork was only to clear their names after a coin dump.
Next dump and blame the other guy.
Make a new fork to change address and tell everything is fine, again.
It happened once, and it will happen again.
Nothing has changed, 5 accounts to dump from.
Call it a fud, i call it a warning.
Give me the proof for your statement. You're clearly trolling or super ignorant. (Either ways but i'm pretty sure u're trolling, even with intention, probably paid trolling) The explorer shows clearly that only Gary' founder wallet are drained with huge amount and sent directly to Bittrex (this one https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xzc/address.dws?aLrg41sXbXZc5MyEj7dts8upZKSAtJmRDR.htm) Another wallet is the bounty wallet which is basically the funding for community effort and was paid to people like Reuben, glitch, ... etc (and they are still very underpaid IMHO). The wallet still has a lot of XZC, check here ( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xzc/address.dws?a1HwTdCmQV3NspP2QqCGpehoFpi8NY4Zg3.htm) Other investors are well-known people, some of them have given publicly their support/letter. All the facts are listed in the website zcoin.finance. I will ping Reuben to update the ANN with more details. |
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So, who is Tim Lee?
Does he have any programming or cryptography knowledge?
Does he have much money?
How much did he invest?
Is it important ? Btw who are you ? If you don't know him then it's your problem, not his. Whether he has money or not and how many did he invest isn't your problem to be frank. I don't really care whose version, it's better you guys get united. If you can not handle a team, how the heck you can handle the development of the coin in the future. It's good to have some investors, but who know who are these investors, anyone can be "investors". As a long term miner, I just hope the coin be stable and back on the track defined initially.
That's correct. Now the coin is much better than before, no more assholes who are just in for quick profit and no more lucky lazy bastard who doesn't work but still got coins for free and dumped whenever he wants. It's holidays so expect announcement will be delayed a little bit. But I'm sure they will announce it soon. |
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Gary Fork
Why everybody says he doesn't anything for the project. Marketing is as hard as development as i know and sometimes it's hardest.
So i vote for Gary
Marketing ? Show me what he did to promote the coin except a self-insulting interview where he showed his lack of knowledge ? |
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Looks like Gary voted with both of his BCT accounts.  It isn't a hard question to answer which version to follow except u're Gary and his sock puppets (He's famous with his sock puppets trick, google it), or u're super ignorant or getting paid to troll by him. TL;DR: Gary has no intention to spend his own money to back the project, no talent to code, no manpower (virtually no one supports him) to work on the project. |
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They scammed very bad. They could really get the chance to became rich one and for all, but they acted very bad, starting selling funds right aftert bittrex list writing they were sent to anon bounties. Very bad act. Now they need to start again with a new project, but theyr name are well written in my scam walls "poramin and gary". doesn't matter who more and who less. After vertcoin,moneta,now zcoin. Take care of your money next time. Dev with a face doesnt' mean "security". One of the most biggest scam of 2016. Scam? Who scammed who ? Gary dumped his stack yes but to call it scamming I have seen worse. Vertcoin is legit coin and Poramin achieved a lot of outstanding things with the coin. Why are these newbies always screaming when they saw a coin dropping in value ? If ur definition of scam is like that, Bitcoin is one hell of scam too. |
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Hi szenekonzept,
Any chance to exchange Europecoin v2 to v3? I still have a lot of v2 stucking in a wallet and trying since months to sync but no node is available.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
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Ok this is bad news. But the project continues its march forward! And I still think that the project is of high quality. It was better that it happened now. The project starts quickly on a good basis!
It's actually good news. We got rid of the biggest dumper who does nothing beside dumping. |
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Please guys, stop fighting about the 'right' and 'wrong' dev and fork, just create a new fork, for example xzc classic and remove Gary's founder address from this one while removing poramins founder address from the other fork and upload this into new github repositorys.
Currently you're self destructing the coin by the low info that's flowing to the miners... No one knows what's happening to bittrex etc.. Miners / Pools and the community need final info and plans
Why xzc classic ? XZC continues to be the original one. Gary didn't do anything and he forked the original git to his new repo. He even stated that he continues to steal Poramin' work by pulling the code from the original git. Gary' version should be the classic one. |
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aCAgTPgtYcA4EysU4UKC86EQd5cTtHtCcr - Received 19,994.0 XZC - Sent 0.0 XZC
aLrg41sXbXZc5MyEj7dts8upZKSAtJmRDR - Received 21,253.99 XZC - Sent 16,103.99 XZC
aQ18FBVFtnueucZKeVg4srhmzbpAeb1KoN - Received 19,994.0 XZC - Sent 5,908.0 XZC
a1HwTdCmQV3NspP2QqCGpehoFpi8NY4Zg3 - Received 37,669.7 XZC - Sent 32,537.7 XZC
a1kCCGddf5pMXSipLVD9hBG2MGGVNaJ15U - Received 24,526.5 XZC - Sent 5,094.0 XZC
So, close to block 10000, total dev/investor tax is about 100k XZC, or 20k per address. Of the five dev/investor addresses, one has moved nothing, two have sent 25%, and two have sent 75%, more or less (since some have obviously received funds besides those from the tax.
The founder' rewards is 20% per block, nothing more. If a founder' wallet got more than 20k XZC right now, then it doesn't come from founder' tax but their own money. U can't do the simple analysis by reading only the outgoing tx of a wallet and said they dumped that part. AFAIK, 2 founder's wallets don't dump any. The one with heaviest dumping activity is aLrg41sXbXZc5MyEj7dts8upZKSAtJmRDR and a1HwTdCmQV3NspP2QqCGpehoFpi8NY4Zg3 I'm contacting the team to publish more infos about it. They will *have to* do it otherwise they will lose all the confidence of investors. The market price reflects that fact right now. |
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Jeremy the troll doesn't even know how to use the block explorer properly. Funny FUD while the coin is dirty cheap now. He needs better method to promote his clone Zoin. @jwinterm: please use this explorer for ur research https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xzc/Nice one, thanks Romaro. |
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Du kannst das ja gerne in einem behördlich sanktionierten Dokument detailliert hier darlegen.
Aber bitte in dreifacher Ausführung, doppelt gestempelt und nicht das Formular 137b vergessen! Ich möchte auch anmerken das ich bei solchen Angeboten eher skeptisch bin. Und das er das Szene-Wort "carden" kennt ist auch nicht gerade Vertrauenswürdig. Allerdings gibt es hunderte andere Szenarien in denen er an legale Gutscheincodes gekommen sein kann z.B. durchs auscashen von FPP bei Pokerstars. Von daher möchte ich an die auch unter Trump geltende Unschuldsvermutung erinnern.  Naja so "Szene" ist das Wort ja auch nicht mehr, wenns sogar schon in nem ARD Beitrag vorkommt Aber ich werde nicht müde, immer wieder zu erwähnen, dass Amazon sich nicht von jedem dahergelaufenen Kleinkriminellen abzocken lassen würde. Jeder kann es selber ausprobieren und sich ein Amazon Konto anlegen und dann mit seiner dort neu angelegten Kreditkarte Gutscheine kaufen. Wird ohne aufwendigen Verifizierungsprozess nicht funktionieren.... Zusätzlich, wer von euch würde nicht sofort merken wenn auf seiner Kreditkartenabrechnung Gutscheine abgebucht werden? Die meisten erhalten mittlerweile sofort eine SMS, wenn irgendwo etwas mit ihrer Kreditkarte gekauft wird, als zusätzliche Sicherheit. Kein einziger meiner hier verkauften Gutscheine -- und es ist inzwischen doch schon eine beträchtliche Menge -- wurde jemals gesperrt oder sonst irgendwas in der Richtung. Es kann jeder gerne seine Argumente und Bedenken vorbringen, aber wenn immer noch einige den Schwachsinn mit dem Kreditkarten bla bla schreiben, disqualifizieren sie sich selbst bezüglich einer sachlichen Diskusion. @jeezy das mit Trump...naja...was soll ich sagen Für die Leute die wegen Carding noch verzweifeln, Ich habe beim KC377 in großen Menge Gutscheine bestellt (15k+). Es lief einwandfrei und immer schnell bei ihm. Wer denkt dass man bei Amazon großen Menge gecardet haben kann, der irrt. Amazon ist nicht so blöd. |
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1337leet klingt schon wie ein Teenager LOL. Warum gibt es immer solchen Leute überall ? Soweit ich das jetzt aus den PMs mit KC377 und auch Planidos https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1694016.msg17011090 lese, wird es wohl so sein: Diese beiden User haben ihre Gutscheinquellen, denen sie vertrauen und bisher auch immer alles gut gegangen ist. Dennoch können beide keine 100% tige Garantie geben, dass es niemals zu Problemen kommen wird. Sie gehen aber davon aus, dass es sehr sehr unwahrscheinlich ist, dass es Probleme geben wird. Wie wäre also folgender Deal, damit auch wirklich jeder ganz beruhigt sein kann und die Geschäfte 1A weiterlaufen:- KC377 du gibst deine Identität an einen trusted User weiter, der diese auch korrekt überprüft um auszuschließen, dass es eine gestohlene Identität ist. - Sollte der super unwahrscheinliche Fall eintreten, dass Amazon das Guthaben nach ein paar Wochen streicht oderso, dann kann der Käufer des Gutscheins dies beweisen und du KC377 trägst dann den entstandenen Schaden. Da es ja so super unwahrscheinlich ist, dass ein Schaden entsteht, gibt es keinen Grund nicht drauf einzugehen  Solltest du nicht drauf eingehen, so sollte man sich schon wirklich ernsthaft fragen, ob das ganze wirklich so sicher ist, wenn KC377 nichtmal diese Garantie ausgeben kann. Trotzdem finde ich diesen Vorschlag von Serpens66 nicht schlecht, KC377. Das kann das Vertrauen an deines Geschäft in einen neuen Level betreiben, also eine echte Win-Win Situation. Was denkst du ? LG. |
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So nun müsste alles beantwortet und versendet sein, falls nicht, beschimpft mich und werft Messer nach mir, ich hätte es verdient Vielen Dank und LG Perfekt Seller. Ich schicke erst ohne Escrow (3k+) und Gutscheine sind nach paar Minuten da. Gerne wieder. PS: KC377 Ich hab grad die Verlosung gesehen. Bin zu spät dafür?  Mit meiner Bestellungsgröße sollte ich mindesten ein Los bekommen oder?  Ich bedanke mich Leider sind alle Lose vergeben und eins dazuschummeln wäre nicht fair, sorry LG:) Nicht fair ist das gleiche Person das mehr als ein Los hat Frag ihn doch ob er sie dir verkauft Gute Idee, danke |
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So nun müsste alles beantwortet und versendet sein, falls nicht, beschimpft mich und werft Messer nach mir, ich hätte es verdient Vielen Dank und LG Perfekt Seller. Ich schicke erst ohne Escrow (3k+) und Gutscheine sind nach paar Minuten da. Gerne wieder. PS: KC377 Ich hab grad die Verlosung gesehen. Bin zu spät dafür? Mit meiner Bestellungsgröße sollte ich mindesten ein Los bekommen oder? Ich bedanke mich Leider sind alle Lose vergeben und eins dazuschummeln wäre nicht fair, sorry LG:) Nicht fair ist das gleiche Person das mehr als ein Los hat |
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So nun müsste alles beantwortet und versendet sein, falls nicht, beschimpft mich und werft Messer nach mir, ich hätte es verdient Vielen Dank und LG Perfekt Seller. Ich schicke erst ohne Escrow (3k+) und Gutscheine sind nach paar Minuten da. Gerne wieder. PS: KC377 Ich hab grad die Verlosung gesehen. Bin zu spät dafür? Mit meiner Bestellungsgröße sollte ich mindesten ein Los bekommen oder? |
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Well even the logo is cloned/stolen from Zcoin.
What a shit coin.
You will get serious trouble with copyright from logo creator if u don't change it.
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Devs are currently exploring alternative algorithms instead of this Lyra one which was meant to be a placeholder.
Meanwhile the coin gets nommed by botnets... Yay! Good devs, They could've just used Lyra2v2, but they had to be different. ~_~ Botnets? Proof or u're just an ignorant fool. Why people always screaming botnets when they saw big hashrates in CPU coins? I don't understand. They think everyone in crypto are like them, mining from home with daddy's computer?? |
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Why all the 'anonymous' huge miners are mining on Suprnova...?  Share some hash to pool.mn at least! OC is the man, but it is not good to concentrate all the hash on a single pool. Because pool.mn is so bad. I was the biggest miner on pool.mn for 5 days but it doesn't get better and pool owner doesn't respond. ocminer is always active so the choice is obvious. |
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It's pool.mn's wallet. Not that big, it's okay. U could reach its power with 1000 machines, easy.  |
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