Yes. You can't make this stuff up.

He's asking you to prove that he is the same person who is attached to that bank account. That is essentially impossible for you to prove without a security mistake on WorldWideBTC's part.

Take your ego out of the situation and make the right decision.

Are you aware how easy it is to acquire access to a drop bank account? If the other user covered his tracks, you will never be able to reclaim your money through the legal process. Just reverse the transfer - bitcoin has gone down in price, anyway.

The problem is that he does it in every thread. It may as well be spam.

Ha...no. I sent a code to the confirmed eBay address of the buyer (as explained in the description). They needed to send me that code for me to send them the BTC. This serves two purposes - one which is verifying the person controlling the account controls that address and two, the shipping time creates a waiting period where most unauthorized payment chargebacks occur.

Unauthorized payment chargebacks occurred during this waiting period on basically all of them.

Don't bother selling on eBay. If you're vigilant you won't lose any coins, but you'll experience chargebacks on about 99.9% of payments. I sold fractions of a BTC to 20-30 buyers and every single one charged back. I never sent anyone BTC (because they weren't able to fulfill the requirements), but it was still a massive waste of time and resources.

It's going to be mostly compromised accounts making eBay purchases for bitcoin.

Businesses can be bought and sold in most parts of the world.

An actual chargeback costs the merchant a significant amount of money. The reason PayPal always sides with buyers is because chargebacks cause a loss for them - I'm not sure how much they absorb, considering their status, but most merchants with normal merchant accounts are on the hook for $35 (plus the value of the actual chargeback) whenever a buyer does a credit card chargeback.

Of course, the actual person charging back is not paying a penny. It's the organization receiving the money that's on the hook.

Yeah, that means you're pretty much not going to win that sort of claim.

Amex takes care of their customers. You won't lose with them.

Well, since you sent with a credit card, you're in pretty good shape. First try PayPal - an unauthorized transaction claim or an item not received claim if you can convince them you purchased a physical item. If that doesn't work, just go to your credit card and it's pretty hard to lose, especially with Amex.

Cryogenics is the study of cryonics, which is the deep-freezing of humans. You can't "cryogenically" freeze someone.

Cryogenics: study of the deep-freezing of humans.
Cryonics: the deep-freezing of humans.

Now you too can be the asshole whenever someone uses either incorrectly.  


Funny - I just say no. Handouts and charity only encourage bums to continue being bums. If the choice is either get back on your feet or starve to death, people with anything left in them will get back on their feet. Those with nothing left in them won't, but their existence was futile at that point, anyway.


And there you've said it - the difference between someone with low wealth and a bum. The Mexicans on the corners looking for work are closer to the "wealthy elite" in mindset than they are to the bum on the corner asking for spare change.

Bitfinex style.

200 BTC @ $55.0001 each.

That is more in line with what trolling is.i.e. You're guessing.
Way to go, Sherlock.

In other words, a troll is someone you disagree with?

My post which was deleted:

I love how anyone selling bitcoin is considered a "weak hand".

Maybe sellers are just smart enough to know not to hold something that has been consistently losing value for over a year?

If we have a rally, there's plenty of time to jump on board. Why expose yourself to risk when you can just sit back, short, and accumulate fiat?

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In what way does that constitute trolling? I'm sure if I swapped out "sell" for "buy" you would have thought highly of it.

I think enough of decentralized currency to try to maximize my wealth . Those of us who did not buy thousands of bitcoins for pennies on the dollar back in the day cannot afford to sit on $1,000 bitcoins as they continue to lose value. Since you joined this forum in 2010, I assume you accumulated most of your bitcoins at a price far below today's current value. That is not the case for the majority of forum members, who were sucked into the hype of potential multithousand dollar coins last winter.

If a single bitcoin will one day be the equivalent of one million US dollars, it wouldn't change my current trading view. I'd accumulate as much "worthless" fiat as possible, so that I can maximize my gains when bitcoin takes off to a million. Permahodling doesn't work all that well for newbies today - and newbies are the only people whose opinions are swayed by the Speculation forum, so they're really who we're catering to.

Has nothing really changed since 2013?

I'm confident that at least one (if not all 3, in reality) of OKCoin, 796, or BitVC will be online during a huge rally. That's all you need to get a significant position, even if the average user only keeps a small amount of fiat or cryptocurrencies on exchanges.

Of course, since the people who control the market are the exact same people waiting on their paycheck every month so that they can afford to pay their water bill.

This slow sink in the high $200s feels like how we were sinking in the high $300s. Come to think of it, it feels just like the $400s, the $500s, and the $600s.

Sell pressure breaks through buy walls, drops down another level. Sell pressure breaks through buy walls, drops down another level. Over and over again. When will it stop? Why would it stop at this point?

Physical gift cards can be carded in-store. Less common, but in-store carding is all the rage right now.

I'd feel comfortable buying a $25 one, though. Seems like a waste of time to card something worth $25.

The problem is, there's always a solid chance that it never goes back up.

I've always taken the Bill Gates approach to Bitcoin. It's an amazing and extremely useful technology, but it's still very primitive and may not be the "one". I think cryptography in currency has a bright future, but I'm just not so sure it's going to involve Bitcoin. If you look at what the larger investors are doing, they're investing in the cryptopayment industry, but not bitcoin itself. (Even suckers investors like Tim Draper aren't investing in coins in hopes their price goes up - they're investing in the overall industry.)

Cryptocurrency technology is invaluable and may be a vital component of the future of money. However, I just don't expect a digital play money from 2009 to really be relevant in 2020, even if some of the possible technical advancements do fully fruition (e.g. sidechains).

Just remember how small the market cap of bitcoin itself is compared to the large companies of today. 5-10 billion dollars is absolutely nothing when we're talking about the global financial system. A payment solution based around cryptography that is used heavily by either consumers, businesses, or banks could have a greater value than 5-10 billion in a single year, let alone 6 like bitcoin. People don't view bitcoin as value in the same way they view a literal company as value.....and I don't expect that to ever change.

Open source is great for technological advancements, but makes monetization challenging.

And people were saying the same for the low hundreds, back when it was $1,000. Remember all the people saying "Cheap coins! Cheap coins! Cheap coins!" all the way down? Seems like that term isn't used as often anymore.


Of course, Bitcoin never does anything deemed unlikely.

Right now, the bitcoin price is a sinking ship. There's truly no reason to be the one taking the risk, when you can easily get back in if we start to rally.