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As planned, I've added the following line to the home page for the solo pool:
This is a NOT-FOR-PROFIT pool, all care is taken but no responsibility is taken in the event of an issue with the pool
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Please note, if you are still mining here, I have moved your mining to the solo pool now. If you happen to find a block before you switch away, you will be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams. Otherwise I suggest if you still want to pool mine, please switch now.
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-ck, I suppose the solo.ckpool.org:3333 url will remain the same after the server migration right? I know you won't be renting another server in EU zone, but is there a way to bind the de.ckpool to the new server somehow?
The reason is that I have personally used (stratum+tcp://de.ckpool.org:443) and (stratum+tcp://de.ckpool.org:3333) on hundreds of mining gears as a back up (secondary pool) when I set up mining gears for my clients, I can change the once I have access to, but it will be a pain in the ass to provide support to every other client/friend whom I helped setting up their miners, I am sure many other members who use the de server will face the same issue, please see if you can keep that URL functioning on the same U.S server.
Yes it's fine. It's already doing that as is. I can just leave the DNS entry of all of them pointing to the same pool which is what's currently set up. |
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It seems there was a 6 minute network outage at the pool a short while ago. Looks like we need that new server sooner rather than later. I've placed my order but it will probably take a while from here due to administrative payment confirmation crap in addition to the deployment time.
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Thanks. I can see the transaction appear in my wallet already. Just for grins I prioritised it at the solo pool. If by some miracle we find a block before it gets confirmed, the pool itself will be guaranteed to be the one to mine the transaction 2020-05-12T22:36:24.141916Z PrioritiseTransaction: 6826fc41bd009649a5ac69bc43a266522c496f8802d40ca21418691408a5b5f7 feerate += 1.00 hey do it for this one also https://btc1.trezor.io/tx/39013ededb5ca443dbabcaffaa4f3909976a81fe826cc4367807f3a0063d89b3its in the rainy day fund and fee was too low viabtc won't let me accelerate it. Done, though you know how unlikely it is we find a block any time soon. Anyone else while I'm at it? |
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Thanks. I can see the transaction appear in my wallet already. Just for grins I prioritised it at the solo pool. If by some miracle we find a block before it gets confirmed, the pool itself will be guaranteed to be the one to mine the transaction 2020-05-12T22:36:24.141916Z PrioritiseTransaction: 6826fc41bd009649a5ac69bc43a266522c496f8802d40ca21418691408a5b5f7 feerate += 1.00 |
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So just to be clear, is it ok to mine on CK Pool Solo pre and during the transition to the new server, or will the move cause a disruption? Also, will any of the addresses change?
I would guess there will be some downtime during the switch but i'm sure CK will let us know what will happen once he's ready with the new sever. You can keep mining at all times. Unlike a shared pool there is no share state that matters, so even with downtime and a completely new server and even if you change address, it makes no difference to your chance of finding a block or your reward. There will actually be no downtime either, as I'll make sure the servers overlap in their running and will automatically switch you all to the new server when the time comes. It will probably be 4 or 5 days as it takes a few days to provision the hardware and then I need to get the server up and running, but I'm so touched by the community's donation that I will endeavour to do it as quickly as possible. |
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Thanks guys, I'm really touched by your contributions. This is the community side that got me here in the first place, before the asic era turned everything to shit.
Phil has the correct address above. Just confirming 3GxjTZeFeQ6Yo8hRPpTyYKXs4RAj6x97Bt is where I'd like the funds to go.
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Very generous of you all, thanks for the show of support.
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-ck, what kind of bandwidth is needed for the server
gigabit sustained is fine, but in a well-connected datacentre with some degree of DDoS protection. |
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If you're serious about funding a new server I think I can get the highest performance required of a new server without the need for backups and remote servers that were adding substantial cost for quite an affordable price. I think it would be smart to move to such a server as it would offer slight but demonstrable performance advantages. Backups no longer mean anything with solo since logs are only of historical interest rather than having any effect on future block solves and payouts. In the event of a hardware failure the pool would have no backup but that makes no difference to the reinstatement of another solo pool from scratch. So taking that in consideration, the best value highest performing pool (in the areas that matter) would cost $98 USD setup fee and $112 / mo. That's only $770 USD for 6 months - the older hardware setup with multiple sites and backups cost a lot more than this. The only caveat is that the provider only has one available in Vint Hill in the United states or Hillsboro. I believe the Vint Hill location is a better one as it is well connected from all locations in the USA. I don't have a firm idea of how many blocks the pool will solve and what would be a worthwhile fee at this stage for my personal time, but I don't have a problem with leaving it at 2% to begin with since the pool basically runs itself once it's up and going and needs very little maintenance.
I have no stake in the escrow funds in case of emergency, and in fact would prefer if this was managed completely separately from me, and treat it as a kind of insurance, but it may not be required at all if people are willing to bear the risk. I don't want people to think they'll be paid for orphans or stales.
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I willing donate to the new CKSOLO server. Once we get everything hashed out...  I can also run a server from my office. Maybe if a spare is needed, located in the Northeast of the US. I would cover the electrical costs for it. Just a thought The connectivity a good pool needs is probably beyond what your office offers ^_^ |
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Yes I'd like to upgrade the server. Where in the US is best?
For a single US location Dallas, TX is probably best. Which is where the current pool server is. |
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Alright, well the fee doesn't seem to be a problem. Would people be satisfied with it being advertised as "Not for profit pool, all mining is at miners risk." Just like a car park, all care, no responsibility blah blah.
Yeah absolutely. But still, lets make a server upgrade, if its old... to minimise the chances of a failure. Yes I'd like to upgrade the server. Where in the US is best? |
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Alright, well the fee doesn't seem to be a problem. Would people be satisfied with it being advertised as "Not for profit pool, all mining is at miners risk." Just like a car park, all care, no responsibility blah blah.
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1. I think you should keep the fee.
2. Yes, this sounds about right.
3. Maybe, but if you keep the fees, is it needed?
4. Absolutely. + we will keep donating, once we find those blocks.
5. Profit)
6. Lets upgrade you're server, to the best available hardware, theres absolutely no reason for you to spend your money on this hardware, lets use the best cpu, and a really fast ssd, for swap files and etc.
7.Im ready to donate, who's ready to donate, just send a message here..
If I keep the fee, it no longer is really a not-for-profit pool and with it comes the onus of being paid by it. |
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I've thought of a potential solution that involves moving to a completely different model for running the pool.
1. The pool becomes fee free.
2. The pool is now advertised as a 'not for profit" service and mining is "at own risk"
3. A fund is set up to pay for server fees
4. Donations to the maintainer (me) separately for my time and effort are completely voluntary.
5. Profit
If the server fee fund ever dries up the pool closes. If something goes wrong, bad luck.
Thoughts?
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That said, when major pools fuck things up, they just silently reset things and tell people bad luck.
Yes, that's what im saying, this pool is transparent, as it gets. Theres no other pool like Yours. Fuck ups always happen, but major pools will keep it a secret. Besides, its always better to have a chance, than not to have it at all. P.s. and also if theres anything needed for this pool to keep it going, just tell us. We are ready to donate.. or smthg like this. I'm aware I'm transparent and that's what causes me the issue. Let's say someone decides to dump 300PH on this pool until they find a block, then they have bad luck and it takes them 10x the normal duration and on top of that something goes wrong on the pool and they don't get a block. They are now down 10x6.25BTC's worth of mining and demand at least one block as reward. I have no intention of ever forking out that much money again for an error or problem. I wouldn't expect the community to fund it either; how would you feel about trying to find 6.25BTC amongst the community just to appease them? Should I just tell them "bad luck shit happens" and join the reputation of the big pools? |
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What happens the next time something goes wrong?
But why should it? Your pool worked flawlessly for the past 7 years or so... One of the most stable pools ever. As I understood there was a glitch, because the server was overloaded, now that theres only this pool left, it should continue working flawlessly as it did before. No it did not work flawlessly. I fucked up the transition to segwit myself and had a server overload yesterday. That's three blocks that should never have been lost. Never assume that everything will be flawless all the time. That said, when major pools fuck things up, they just silently reset things and tell people bad luck. |
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