Well, what happened a week ago, when Hamas fighters went to Israeli cities? They killed innocent civilians and caused the whole recent upheaval.
Maybe you should first familiarize yourself with the regions you want to give opinion about then start speculating about what might have happened. Or maybe you are just repeating some random stuff you read on the internet! Maybe Hamas just hates the internet because we can look up the information ourselves like the massacre Hamas did one week ago. It's a shame, that this barbaric Hamas terrorist act gets denied by Hamas pawns like you.  The Palestinians didn't kill any "innocent civilians".
Not Palestinians, but the Hamas killed lots of innocent civilians - no need to deny this barbaric act. Let's just take the Re'im music festival massacre, where Hamas killed at least 250 innocent civilians:     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kumvHVGaetMThese people were there to celebrate and out of nowhere these Hamas parachute terrorists were starting to shoot down everyone they could get. What a disgusting massacre and defending that is as disgusting as it gets. And this is just one location of Hamas terror, Hamas killed much more innocent civilians like children and women that day, the festival were "just" 250 people of the 1400+ killed that day. No doubt, Hamas is a disgusting terrorist organisation. They are a shame for the human species. Downplaying that means to be indirectly complicit in this Hamas murder against innocent civilians. Yes, people celebrating at a rave festival are innocent civilians. Downplaying that means being a horrific shame. And if someone is justifying the Hamas massacre, it's always a big support boost in favor Israel. I don't know if Hamas is realizing that.  |
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Betting wise I would never make a bet for him at the lines the books are giving him for. They have Verstappen at 1.23 to win the US GP. Lol. No thank you...
I wouldn't call this a bad odd because imagine this odd for a Verstappen win at every race we had that season. Bet every race 1 mBTC on Verstappen and we would have made a very big profit. Verstappen is just so extremely dominant, if he doesn't has a mechanical issue, he's extremely likely to win. And RedBull is a reliable car this season. Even in rain, Verstappen is so much faster, like in Zandvoort, where he was 4 seconds faster compared to Perez very early in the race - on the same tires (intermediates). Betting every race on Verstappen this season, even at just 1.23 odds ( see below), would have been a big profit overally. |
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Secondly you can read what I wrote again and see I am very sorry about the civilians killed in Israel since the first day; and am against any civil casualities.
Have a nice day.
That's a goal I can 100% agree to. Any civilian casualties are always very sad, no matter on which side. A world, where we have peace and everyone is friendly is a goal we should always support, so I'm definitely on your side here. Have a nice and peaceful day as well.  |
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He claim Hamas killed thousands of civilians without any proof, but tells that no hospital is bombed; what a twisted mentality.
Well, what happened a week ago, when Hamas fighters went to Israeli cities? They killed innocent civilians and caused the whole recent upheaval. All jokes aside I am actually started getting disturbed by this view; how can someome be so immoral, and calling me out for sharing propoganda while I posted a photo from hospital garden where 1miau claims no casuality occured and is a hoax is beyond me and should be beyond any sane human being even Israelis.
You should stop spreading lies about me. I've told nowhere that "no one died" and that I would have told "civilian casualties are a hoax". I've told that nowhere. Stop these disgusting lies about me, please. It's sad enough, whats happening there, no need to make up things. People like you are eroding support for Palestinians. I've supported Palestine previously here in 2022 on the forum in our German section as well and was accused of being pro Hamas. Now, Im getting attacked wird fake accusations here. If these fake accusations against me will continue here, this will just confirm the one-sided view in this issue, where crimes from Hamas doesnt matter. That's not how you get support for the Palestinian cause. |
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@1miauEine Rückfrage hätte ich hier aber auch zu den Regeln, dort steht: aktive Bitcoin-Adressen aufgelistet werden müssen Was bedeutet hier "aktiv" konkret? Können bspw. Kampagnen-Empfangsadressen angegeben werden? Oder müssen auch Versendungen durchgeführt worden sein? Letzteres wäre für mich bspw. heikel, da hier ggfs. zu viele Informationen (BTC-Stammadressen die Rückschlüsse auf das eigene Kapital ermöglichen, ...) nach aussen gelangen könnten! Es ist völlig ausreichend, wenn eine eingehende oder eine ausgehende Transaktion auf dieser Adresse im laufenden Kalenderjahr dokumentiert ist. Damit soll nachgewiesen werden, dass die Adresse auch wirklich vor dem Beginn des Gewinnspiels erstellt wurde, denn für Schummeleien könnte man einfach jetzt direkt eine neue Bitcoinadresse erstellen. Das wird dadurch ausgeschlossen, dass eine Transaktion vor dem Gewinnspiel auf der Adresse dokumentiert sein muss. So, wie Real-Duke es beschrieben hat, wäre also eine Möglichkeit. Eine Transaktion pro Adresse reicht sogar: Die weiteren Regeln: - Um Schummeleien einzugrenzen, muss auf diesen beiden Bitcoin-Adressen jeweils mindestens eine Bitcoin-Transaktion seit 01.01.2023 durchgeführt worden sein (Transaktion eingegangen oder versendet).
Von mir auch erstmal danke an 1miau für das diesjährige Gewinnspiel.
Ich warte wohl auch noch etwas mit meiner Prognose.
So wie ich das verstehe soll eine Adresse angegeben werden wo auch Coins drüber liefen (egal ob rein oder raus) und an einer dieser wird der potenzielle Gewinn gesendet.
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Yes, and we know that at least sinc last weak, where they went after several thousand Israeli civilians, except from the rocket launches by Hamas. Israel has it's "Iron Dome" for a reason.  That was brutal. I do not support anyone's attacks. Not even from Hamas. Usually, they were attacking Israel as a reaction to Israel's attack except for the attack on 7th October. Peace is very difficult there, yes. Extremists are on both sides and that's why I've also criticized Israeli settlers in the past. Wipe Israel off the map. You and I both know it's impossible. If I am not wrong, they have only 40,000 members in their organization, and they don't have the special weapons that Israel has. It's kinda ant and Elephant fight. Palestine does not want to wipe of Israel off the map. They want freedom from them. Exactly. Would Israel intend to wipe Palestine off the map, it would have happened long ago because Israel would have the capabilities. But there are some right wing parties in Israel, who would like to do that. So, advocating for moderates on both sides is our best bet. And hopefully, the war doesn't escalates further. But your usage of those emojis gives a different message dear 1miau.
I'm sorry if my emojis caused any inconvenience. Sometimes, discussions are heated, I didn't want to cause any harm. Have a nice day, dear Learn Bitcoin |
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I haven't claimed anywhere that New York Post is OSINT community.
You clearly didn't read that article and you also didn't bother to check the OSINT community yourself.
Alas, you cited NYpost article and said "look, they said that OSINT confirmed that Hamas struck the hospital" and I said, there is no such claim, link leads to GeoConfirmed which I followed closely, and read all the analysis, and nothing there that claims what you claimed, and since you failed to quote the source I now have the right to assume that you did not read anything past that NYpost article. Well, all the pictures that I've presented here are drawn by myself or I've copied them from the NYP article. If you even follow GC you would have seen their last thread where it say It rules out a rocket misfire. It means the possibilities are:
1) Israel uses heat-seeking missiles (via cruise missile or airstrike) to destroy the rocket launchers, they fired some here and accidentally also hit the hospital, perhaps locked onto hospital's power generators . There are all sorts of speculations and analyses of what has happened, NONE of them say that Hamas struck the hospital, so again, where is your proof? Yes, perhaps really sounds like we can rule out certain things... I didn't claim anywhere that Hamas targeted their own hospital deliberately. Of course, without giving the link and context, It's always easy to make bold claims. I've just posted one source from all the sources I've read about this. Is it so difficult to look it up or are you afraid to see some Hamas propaganda getting debunked into pieces?  You have not, you just posted a link to NYpost and claim it's solid proof, am asking where is your proof, you expect me to find it for you. Stop deliberately misinterpreting my posts. The link I've given from New York Post is just a summary. Do you think I'm writing here an essay now on this? It's just a waste of time anyway for Hamas asslickers like you, who don't even question what has happened there. We can present the evidence that the hospital is still intact and not destroyed by an israeli airstrike and we can present evidence that these 470 deaths are completely exagerated in this Hamas propaganda lie. Hamas is a terrorist organisation which end goal the annihilation of al Israelis is. They will make shit up, as long as people blindly defend them. Hamas is pure evil and I'm not surprised, considering how they took power in 2006 in Gaza and have destroyed any democracy there. I don't know, you need to ask that official Israeli account where they got the video from, and why they deleted it after being confronted.
Maybe they got it wrong, since everyone except Hamas is safe from being wrong in your opinion. And like you've seen in the picture in that wired article, the hospital seems to be intact, doesn't it? But you said Hamas struck it, so make up your mind, which one is it, the hospital is fine or Hamas did hit it? I've never written "struck" multiple times because striking means deliberately targeting something. It really looks like an accident. Once again, stop claiming I would have written something, which I didn't wrote. Not a really good look to bring such strawmen... Also, you seem to confuse missiles with nukes, the hospital is 27,500 square meters large,
Nukes? What's this strawman now? You know what a nuke would do to the Gaza strip? you could hit one whole block and the rest wouldn't be affected, now whether 500 people were killed or not is up for debate, based on all the evidence I have seen so far, adding that to what I heard from friends in Palestine, I think it's highly exaggerated,
What we can see from the pictures, there's not much damage at all. It proves that Israeli officials posted a video dating back to 2022 to "prove that Hamas did it", and then it was deleted, why did they have to have to do that if they were not responsible? why did they need to make an obvious false claim if they were too sure that they were innocent?
So what? Luckily we have many people to point it out and get to the correct version. When Russia attacked Ukraine, there have been videos from a chemical explosion in China from years ago, normal Twitter users are not the OSINT community. They will re-post anything for clicks. What normal people? the account that posted the video and then deleted it were 1- Michael Herzog (Ambassador of Israel to the United States) 2- Israel state account (State of Israel's official Twitter account) Why do you think they posted the videos and then deleted them? these are not my words, these are Kolina Koltai's words, and the fake video posted by the two accounts can be found online. Because it's proven wrong? So, according to you, they should keep up all the wrong videos (like Hamas does)?
Hamas is a terrorist organization and everyone is suffering from them. so are the IDF and the Israeli settlers, so if Hamas considered a terrorist organization when the the IDF is not? IDF are not advocating to wipe Palestine off the map. Some right wing settlers and right wing israeli parties are, yes. if we were to take the number of civilians killed by both sides, the IDF would win by an order of magnitude, you could call Hamas a terrorist group that's fine, Hamas could disappear after the war but nothing will change, the resistance ideology of Hamas will live forever, until the Israeli's elect a government that would put an end to all the suffering of the Palestinians, ditch the idea of building their Zionist empire that extends beyond the current occupied lands of Palestine to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
That's bullshit and you certainly know this. There are moderates on both sides which would accept each other's country and there could be peace. Unfortunately, these moderates are not very numerous. On Palestinian side, these "moderates" (Fatah) where killed by Hamas in 2006 and Hamas took over the Gaza Strip. Any peaceful efforts were wasted due to a power hungry Hamas. The Palestinians lowered their demands over the decades in order to reach a mutual agreement with the Israelis and put into effect the two-state solution, they are now left with the last bit of land since Israel never honored any of its agreements, when someone has nothing to lose - they would do anything to take revenge, they couldn't care less what you call them or think about them, if you want to help the Israeli people live in peace, then help them get rid of this radical governments, sit on the negation table and have one last serious negotiations to bring peace to the whole region, launching airstrikes, invading Gaza, killing every Hamas member will not end the suffering for both nations.
Over the years, it's on both sides. Let's not forget, that 1948, directly after the British withdrawal, Israel was attacked by all arab countries nearby. But what these Hamas terrorists did there, murdering thousands of israeli civilians in such a brutal way, is not acceptable at all. Killing civilians is unjustified for anyone under any circumstances, fighting for your freedom is a right you were born with. Hamas is NOT fighting for freedom, it's fighing to erase Israel. It was written in their founding charta of Hamas. So now you are going to blame the Palestinians for the new Nazis? the Arabs and the Muslims alike have no problem with Jews (unlike the Nazis), the problem is with the Zionists, very different categories.
Nowhere I've blamed "the Palestinians", I've blamed the radical Hamas and their asslickers. Big difference! Please stop twisting my words. Unfortunately, international law applies and refeugee crisis is a very hot topic in Germany right now. Yes, we need changes but when we make changes there, someone will be unhappy instead. As far as I know, most refugees there come from Syria, a country that was living in peace until (the U.S and its allies EU, Saudi, UAE, etc) decided to destroy the country, American troops are still there, making sure the country stays miserable, I think Germany shouldn't be the only one responsible here, you should divide the refugees between all the countries that helped in destroying Syria, and hopefully, this serves as a good less for Germany not to follow U.S steps in wars that bring nothing but tragedy to everyone except the likes of Lockheed Martin. That's outright bullshit, so you are an dictator Assad asslicker as well, who bombed his own population deliberately to secure his dictatorship. And that disqualifies any advocacy for your alleged "freedom fighting" disguised as Hamas terrorists. Amazing what we have in this Bitcoin forum here, we'd imagine that dictators are getting the red card shown here, but now, they get applauded. Shame. As I've said, the radical folks trying to force Islam onto European countries are very few. But they are existing and they won't refrain from suicide bombing our societey to death. I'm not interested to get an escalation, where more and more people are radicalized due to political islam. We have tons of nice Muslims in Germany, they don't make any issue at all, the problem are the radicalized ones and the past days have shown that we need to take it seriously. Like you, I'm also for a peaceful society. We don't blame the Germans for what Nazi Germans did, but you guys keep labeling those extremists as Muslims, painting the picture that this is what the average Muslim, when in reality the most affected people by those extremists are the Muslims themselves, in your previous post you mentioned "Allah Bullshit" which is a direct insult to every Muslim reading it. Germans were responsible to a large degree allowing Hitler to run amok like he did and right now, these tendencies are growing again. And I've not labelled all Muslims as violent extremists, I've even written most of them are nice people here in Germany. Stop twisting my words - impossible challenge for you? I can recommend some Charlie Hebdo for you. What I know is, that the vast majority of people around the globe want to live in peace,
That's a noble goal but impossible with Hamas or right wing israeli settlers (yes, I critcize both sides). It's also worth mentioning that comments like yours where you tie the word "Islam/Muslim" to every extremist/terrorist will make things only worse when someone in the U.S shoots 10 kids at school, you don't say "A Christian terrorist", so it's only fair that we treat everyone and every religion equally IMO.
There a difference between Extremist/Islamist and normal, friendly Muslims. I don't know how often I should write this, I've written it often enough. We have quite a lot of nice and friendly Muslims in Germany. Anyway, this will be my last post in this thread, I always try my best to stay away from Politcs but my feelings get the best of me, sorry if I offended anyone here.
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Danke für die (potentielle) milde Gabe, habe es unter Vorbehalt in die Liste eingetragen und für den zweiten Platz vorgesehen, wenn das so in Ordnung ist. Dann hoffen wir auf eine rege Teilnahme. So milde finde ich es gar nicht. Ich glaub wir haben uns missverstanden. Also das "milde Gabe" war eher so als Sprichwort gemeint. Das sollte nicht bedeuten, dass es wenig wäre oder so. Die 0,25 mBTC sind gesetzt! Weitere 0,25mBTC - 0,5mBTC folgen bei reger Teilnahme.
Vielleicht ist es so ja besser ausgedrückt.
Danke für die Info, dann nennen wir es "noble Geste" oder wie du magst. Wenn du magst, kannst du es gerne noch tun. Teilnahmefrist ist ja lange genug offen. Ich schau erstmal, wie hoch die Teilnahme sein wird. Ich bin mir sicher, dass alle auf die Frist lauern werden um eine möglichst genaue Angabe machen zu können. Das sowieso, vor allem, um die größtmögliche Lücke zu finden. |
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With due respect, I don't know who did this and who did that. Then, looking up the claims of both sides would be a good idea? But I know that Israel is an illegal country born in 1948 out of nowhere.
Israel is not an illegal country like Palestine is not an illegal country. Both were "created" from british rule in that region. You say Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Yes, and we know that at least sinc last weak, where they went after several thousand Israeli civilians, except from the rocket launches by Hamas. Israel has it's "Iron Dome" for a reason. But do you understand how and why Hamas was born?
To spread their radical ideology. Unfortunately, Hamas took power in Gaza 2006/2007 from democratic Fatah and (no surprise) Hamas banned democratic elections. Since then, no democratic vote was hold in Gaza and Hamas started to ramp up their bullshit. What do they want?
Wipe Israel off the map. If any country builds an armed organization to get freedom, okay, I will support that organization.
The problem is that "fighting for freedom" for Hamas means to bomb Israelis to death. That's not how peace is achieved. Of course, the religious israeli right wants to wipe Palestine off the map. With such folks, peace is impossible. Do you think Mukti Bahini was a terrorist organization?
Different conflict, different issues. All Palestinians want is freedom from Israel and recognition from the world.
That's what I hope for Palestinians as well. But that won't be possible with Hamas because peace is no option for Hamas until Israel is wiped off the map. Still, If you say that organization is a terrorist group, it's up to you. I am supporting them in front of the world.
Hamas is a terrorist group and a very brutal one, like we have seen last week. Palestinians are normal people, they are NOT a terrorist organisation. But Hamas is abusing these Palestinians for their own gain. The headquarters of Hamas are located in Qatar and they don't care the slightest about how many Palestinians are killed, their main goal is to wipe Isreal off the map. No need to lecture me on the issue I'm well aware about this conflict. Supporting Hamas means supporting a new Holocaust: One of Hamas' goals is to destroy the State of Israel by military force and to establish an Islamic state instead. In its founding charter published on August 18, 1988, Hamas referred to the world's most influential anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which had been exposed as a fake as early as 1921.
On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a policy and position paper supplementing the 1988 charter or, according to some commentators, replacing it entirely. Hamas has ruled the Gaza Strip since its election victory in 2006 and the civil war over Gaza in June 2007, which was widely perceived internationally as a coup d'état by Hamas, and since then no elections have been held in the Palestinian territories.
On October 7, 2023, Hamas launched an attack on Israel, in which Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades fighters entered settlements around the Gaza Strip. Hamas committed numerous excesses of violence and murdered over 1,400 Israelis, most notably in the massacre of Reʿim and Kibbutz Kfar Aza. Israel then declared a state of war and began retaliatory strikes and preparations for a ground offensive against the Gaza Strip.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/HamasThe ideology from Hamas has quite a few similarities to that of Adolf Hitler. |
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I am really sorry and see huge flaws in your moral. I don't believe you think this is evil like in your last sentence. I live in lands where we watch war every day, I also watched Russia-Ukraine conflict. Are Ukraniens in open-air prison with no where to run like Palestanians? No, this is why Israel's coward air attacks are killing many civilians; get some lesson from Turkey, man up go to ground attack , pick the aggressors up and jail them; not bomb them with civilians in fighter jets!
Like you, I believe these deaths are evil and brutal. Every death is one death too many, I think we can agree here. That's why peace is so important and an important part of peace is to look up, what really happened there. Gaza President said the official number
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It seems like you don't since you still say Islamic Jihadists or bs.
That certain group is calling themselves like that. Maybe it's different in Arabic language. I'm not making up these names. You have zero proof and even satirical claims that have no back up; and calling real proof with images, a propoganda.
The proof is all there, I've replied to you here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470732.msg63018155#msg63018155Get a grip of reality. The blood of those kids are in the hands of people who stay silent to this Genocide.
I have a grip of reality, rest assured. Once we know how propaganda works, it's easy to spot it and you'll see who's resposible for these unnecessary casualties. You will still learn this, so don't worry. Have a nice day as well sir'
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@mikeywith; the (Islamophobic) person @1miau and I are also talking the same thing in my thread; he claims false allegations and even tell that no hospital was even bombed and the 470 civilians dead is a fake propoganda of Hamas. I don't even know if this is worth discussing anymore.
Yes, such a high number is completely exxagerated according to publicly available evidence. Take this shot from Times of Gaza (Palestinian source):  https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/1714317733410611712Anyone who has followed the Russian invasion against Ukraine can tell you, that such a blast - isn't a normal, guided rocket hit (would have caused a massive crater) - won't cause 470 dead civilians - doesn't destroy a hospital at all As sad as it is, we need to stay calm and review the facts.
@1miau I want you to remember this image every day.
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Because it turned out that the rocket was fired by Hamas itself and it crashed near the hospital, like the OSINT (Open Source Intelligence) community has confirmed:
Since when did NYpost become "Open Source Intelligence" ? where is your OSINT source? I haven't claimed anywhere that New York Post is OSINT community. You clearly didn't read that article and you also didn't bother to check the OSINT community yourself. Even in the NYP article, two names from the OSINT community are mentioned and cited... But no, all you can come up with is a strawman "New York Post is no OSINT source" - LOL. It would be nice to get some facts instead of unproven speculations that. Because it turned out that your claim aged like milk. You used the New York Post as your "fact reference" which is funny, where is your source of all the info you posted above? if you are going to quote another Western legacy media then spare yourself the effort. in fact: I've just posted one source from all the sources I've read about this. Is it so difficult to look it up or are you afraid to see some Hamas propaganda getting debunked into pieces? In the hours after the attack, @Israel, the official Israeli account on X (formerly Twitter), posted a video it claimed was proof that the explosion was the result of a misguided rocket launched by Islamic Jihad militants. But within minutes, Aric Toler, a former Bellingcat researcher who now works for The New York Times, pointed out that the time stamp on the video showed 8 pm local time, a full hour after the explosion took place.
The post on Israel’s official account was subsequently edited to remove the video while maintaining its claim that the attack was not the result of an Israeli strike.
https://www.wired.com/story/al-ahli-baptist-hospital-explosion-disinformation-osint/So, you are saying that there were two explosions happening? From the pictures we know today, that can't be true. And like you've seen in the picture in that wired article, the hospital seems to be intact, doesn't it? She also mentioned in response to some Israeli fake news
Head ups, there is a claim that the hospital bombing in Gaza was by Hamas. If you see the video below, it is actually from at least 2022.
So I ask again, where is your OSINT resource that confirms that the hospital was attacked by Hamas? if your source claims that it wasn't an airstrike conducted by a fighter jet, it doesn't change anything, your source needs to prove that Hamas was indeed the one who launched it, it's common since the attacker bares all responsibility unless proven otherwise.
Your strawmen proves exactly what? I can go to Twitter and pull out fake videos from any side so that's proof enough to debunk a claim? This is proving exactly what? - Nothing! When Russia attacked Ukraine, there have been videos from a chemical explosion in China from years ago, normal Twitter users are not the OSINT community. They will re-post anything for clicks. Even New York Post mentioned the OSINT researchers from GeoConfirmed. There are far more commenting on the incident, like Nathan Ruser or Oliver Alexander commented on this as well. It's like Bitcoin buyer and Bitcoin developer.
Stop getting brainwashed from Hamas propaganda and find out, what really happened, backed up by proof. Hamas is a political movement, I couldn't care less what they say or do, just like Netanyahu's government, they would use everything at their disposal to win, and that includes propaganda, it's perfectly normal to dislike or a hate a political party including this army and leader, but what you doing now is hating on all the civilians who have nothing to do with Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization and everyone is suffering from them. Not just Israelis, people from Palestine as well. Believe me, I have defended the palestinian struggle even in our German section in our forum in 2022, especially criticizing the illegal israeli settler practices. I really hope for peace in that region, which is very difficult unfortunately. I was even accused to be pro Hamas. So, you see, I'm considering both sides here. But what these Hamas terrorists did there, murdering thousands of israeli civilians in such a brutal way, is not acceptable at all. I don't need to elaborate this. The fact, that we now have in Germany antisemitic rallies from "pro Palestine" (pro Hamas) folks, who are shouting "down with Israel" or "gas the jews" in GERMANY, is not acceptable. Houses, where Jews are living, were marked like in Hitler's 3rd reich. This is not acceptable. you keep mentioning Hamas as if they are superpower who control the whole area, you don't seem to know that they don't extend past Gaza
I know this very well. You seem to be pretty misinformed, about the religious aspect in the area, Israel is fighting both Muslims and Christians, it's part of the Zionist doctrine which you don't seem to understand, it's Zionist (God's chosen people according to them) vs everyone.
Your guess couldn't be more uneducated on the matter because as I've said I have defended the cause of Palestine previously in the forum. I know that the extremist far right in Israel will not hesitate to erase Palestine, like the radical Hamas wants to erase Israel. We won't get peace with such folks. Are you aware that ALL human rights organizations state that Israel committed war crimes and has been brutal to the Palestinians for decades? and that includes ALL Israeli human rights organizations.
Looks like you are completely unaware that I've read tons of this, from Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, German outlets and even Alex Gladstein's article about Bitcoin and Palestine. If you are annoyed by a certain group of people regardless of their religion or background, don't let them into your country, it's as simple as that to a superpower country like Germany, unfortunately, it wasn't the case for the weak Palestinians back in 1948 since no matter how hard they tried to stop the Zionist from taking their land -- they couldn't.
Unfortunately, international law applies and refeugee crisis is a very hot topic in Germany right now. Yes, we need changes but when we make changes there, someone will be unhappy instead. Yes, after Israel is wiped off the map, which is the goal by extremist organizations like Hamas or Israel etc., EU and USA will be next. So why does this have to be in the order you mentioned, why can't it be EU, USA, and then Israel for example , I find it hard to believe that a country with 2% the GDP of the U.S, a small population of 10 million with little to no natural resources is standing in the way of the "extremist organizations" who plan to take down the EU and the USA, it's also worth mentioning that Israel as a state only come to existence roughly 70 years ago, so who was protecting the world from the "extremist organizations" back then? we know for sure it wasn't the Jews so who was it? I am not trolling really, I just don't have what it takes to understand arguments with flawed logic. As I've said, the radical folks trying to force Islam onto European countries are very few. But they are existing and they won't refrain from suicide bombing our societey to death. I'm not interested to get an escalation, where more and more people are radicalized due to political islam. We have tons of nice Muslims in Germany, they don't make any issue at all, the problem are the radicalized ones and the past days have shown that we need to take it seriously. Like you, I'm also for a peaceful society. |
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Well I read everything you wrote; keep in mind you are not a professional in terror and security policies; where everyone around the world KNOWS Hamas or another Jihadi Group does not own this type of air missile.
Yes, I'm not a professional in terror and I don't need to be one because it's well visible that the hospital is NOT destroyed. How could 500 people die in the hospital, if the hospital is still intact? You can see, 500 people dead is a lie and propaganda by Hamas (because such bullshit propaganda works for Hamas as you can see how many believe this Hamas lie). It's now debunked but people still parrot the lie. The evidence is all there, hospital still intact. KUDOS to our decentralized OSINT community for calling out Hamas for lying. Keep in mind did I write who did this in my thread ?
Simply, this isn't true what you wrote: Press conferance of a doctor in Gaza after hospital bombing.
The hospital is not damaged at all as you can see in the picures. Secondly, do you even know what 'Sahra Hospital' means? You don't, because you are in your comfy bed watching tv in your European Country where I and many others live in the Middle East; you don't even know how Middle East is right now. This hospital refuged people who ran away from war to be secure; it opened it's gardens to children and women to play and sleep. This is a usual procedure you Westerners don't know that is happening in every bombed Middle Eastern Nation. Children and women sleep on the floor of hospitals to avoid missiles. There is even a video of children playing in the very same day of the night the attack occurred.
Say thanks to Islamic Jihad for this bullshit. You bluntly trying to even prove this attack didn't happen in this first place is inhumane and really disturbing.
You should really watch your words dude because all of your bullshit is a lie! Hamas is the one who's trying to abuse these dead people for their propaganda by falsely accusing israel WITHOUT ANY PROOF. Now, that israel has provided proof that it's not an israeli rocket hit, you still don't admit this but you spread accusations against me. Hamas claimed 500 people dead from israeli rocket bombing in hospital and from what we can see in the picure it's not true at all, it's propaganda. That's exactly how these dipshit Hamas terrorist are trying to fabricate propaganda. They are using their own civilians as a human shield, which is such a disgusting thing but you are defending them. Big shame! Yes, it's sad what happened there and any civilian killed there is a big pity and that's why I'm against lying about that what happened there. We need to tell the truth. Why is Hamas even firing missiles so closely near their own hospital? Lastly; I didn't even said Israel or Hamas did this; you are attacking to me and defensing Israel is out of topic.
I'm just criticizing wrong claims. If you believe, my post is off-topic, report it. So, you claim this photos are from Los Angeles California, in a film stage; staged against Israel? I'm not joking; your logic is a lot ironic than this sentence.
I've claimed that nowhere. Like you, I'm against civilian casualties but I'm also against propaganda because propaganda is inciting hate and makes it difficult to find a peaceful solution for this conflict. And when there's a lie pushed so massively, of course I will point to the truth, backed by proof. Have a nice day and hopefully, this conflict will be settled peacefully. |
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Allerdings hoffe ich noch auf eine höhere Anzahl an Teilnehmern - in dem Fall würde ich mich nämlich gern dazu bereit erklären, den Preispool zu erhöhen und ebenfalls ~ 0.25 m BTC hinzufügen. Und: Sollten wir mehr als 20 Teilnehmer bis zur Frist sein, lasse ich mich gern auf Verhandlungen auf eine weitere Aufstockung ein. Danke für die (potentielle) milde Gabe, habe es unter Vorbehalt in die Liste eingetragen und für den zweiten Platz vorgesehen, wenn das so in Ordnung ist. Dann hoffen wir auf eine rege Teilnahme. Ich möchte bis auf weiteres vorerst nicht teilnehmen.
Wenn du magst, kannst du es gerne noch tun. Teilnahmefrist ist ja lange genug offen. |
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Ich finde es ja echt schade, dass die Beteiligung hier so gering ist. Solche Fäden sind ja doch immer auch mal Anlass in andere Bereiche reinzuschnuppern.
Da hast du recht, das ist sehr schade. Dadurch sieht man immer auch wieder gute Beiträge anderer Leute, die vielleicht ganz informativ sind. Sozusagen die "besten Beiträge des Monats", die man geschrieben hat. Sei es drum, ich nehme auch gerne an der zweiten Staffel teil.
Danke für die Teilnahme. Die Beiträge schaue ich mir dann demnächst an. Aufgrund des Limits der 50 Merit pro 30 Tage muss das allerdings noch ein bisschen warten. Dafür werde ich deine erste Abgabe bald auswerten. Am 20. Oktober werden wieder ein paar Merits aus diesem nervigen Limit frei. Vielleicht kann ich das einmal in Meta vorschlagen, das Limit zumindest auf 75 zu erhöhen. ^^ |
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Press conferance of a doctor in Gaza after hospital bombing. (verified image from Turkish Ministry of Health)
Could we please stop spreading unproven propaganda? First, there is valid proof that the incident wasn't an israeli rocket fired on that hospital but instead a misfired rocket from a group close to Hamas, called Islamic Jihad. See my post here. Second, there is valid proof that the Al Ahli Hospital didn't even got destroyed a tiny bit, just a parking lot nearby:   Destroyed parking lot in the front, intact hospital in the background view from the front |
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Done and it's a good idea to add it but most likely, the result won't be very representative because most votes are already submitted due to one vote for each Bitcointalk account. Maybe we can screenshot the poll, save it, reset it and start it again. We might run it 1 year (or 2 years) and will see how the public opinion has (possibly) shifted. Seeing Woodie's suggestion made me realize that the poll contains 3 websites which were moved to the eliminated ones, therefore I believe they should not be part of the poll anymore: SmartBit, Coinmarketcap Block Explorer and Bitcoin.com. Besides, if I remember well, this poll conatined initially all the explorers listed when OP was created. Since then many other websites were added. Perhaps the poll should contain now also the other explorers added? It's a really difficult decision and maybe, our best solution is, if we do it like that: First step: screenshot the current poll and save it (normal picture or even archive) Second step: reset it and start it again, where we will add all current sites and remove inactive sites. Because changing a bit of it now will invalidate the poll, when old votes are getting removed and some people already submitted their votes but would vote for new Blockexplorers now, instead. |
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Requesting permission as well to translate this to our local board: Pilipinas.Hello Of course, we would be very happy to have a translation from you. I've added an entry in my list and reserved it for you: | Language | translated by | Title | | ___________________________ | _____________________ | _______________________________________________________________________ | | Pilipinas (reserved) | TravelMug | reserved |
No hurry to provide it because translation quality goes over translation speed. Looking forward to it. |
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And even if we do trading "right" (according to technical analysis), it's not a guarantee for any win. Because if we would have a trading program, which is trading exactly a technical analysis trading strategy, to generate profits, it simply doesn't exist. Because no (day) trading strategy is reliable long-term. We can make some profits due to luck but that doesn't mean that it's a reliable strategy.
If there would be a reliable trading strategy, someone would have coded an application already to make it an automated trading strategy - but such a technical analysis trading strategy doesn't exist.
Yes, this is a completely logical thought. But this is not understood by everyone because everyone is concerned about getting something instant. That's why we have a nice, educational article about the topic now. Hopefully, many people will read our topic about the issue and be careful, when it comes to trading. Nice, fast translation. Well done. +1 I've added it to my list and appreciate your effort very much. | Language | translated by | Title | | ___________________________ | _____________________ | _______________________________________________________________________ | | Bengali | Z_MBFM | ট্রেড Vs হোল্ড এর ফাঁদ এড়িয়ে চলুন |
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