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1) ΕΙΣΤΕ ΕΤΑΙΡΙΑ ΜΕ ΑΔΕΙΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
 
2) ΕΙΣΤΕ ΕΤΑΙΡΙΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ Η ΥΠΟΚΑΤΑΣΤΗΜΑ ΑΛΛΟΔΑΠΗΣ

3) ΕΙΣΤΕ ΥΠΟ ΤΗΝ ΕΠΟΠΤΕΙΑ ΤΗΣ ΤΡΑΠΕΖΑΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΟΣ Η ΑΛΛΗΣ ΚΕΝΤΡΙΚΗΣ
     ΤΡΑΠΕΖΑΣ ΤΗΣ ΕΥΡΩΠΑΙΚΗΣ ΕΝΩΣΗΣ

4)Μερικα στοιχεια για τους εταιρους / οικονομικα στοιχεια υπαρχουν καπου δημοσιευμενα

O αγοραστης δεν εμφανιστηκε οποτε παλι ειναι διαθεσιμα 2 τεμ

Bitmain had great success with S1. S2 am not sure but from what I read was not a great success.In a china conference they said its goind to be an S3 with 28nm chips.Not yet released but they will need it

Take them to the garage and have in mind its quiter that other miners
Changing the fans will not do much good as there are not quite and powerfull together.
I have tried quiet computer fans but these suck air very slow its not for miners and specially
in the summer time that you need more cooling
I dont know where you are located
Taking your miners into a data center is a solution but in europe there are not cheep ones.

Hi this picture is a cooling joke as if they are S2 (am not so sure)  they produce LOT of heat depending where they are located(close to the equator or not). I remember a guy had some miners in Alaska but when prompted for the temperatures he had it was -40 to -20 so at this levels I dont know what is needed.Some users have commented that S1 does not like so much extreeme cold but for S2 I dont know.
Running some of my Antminers S1 in the winter time with temps 0-7c did not have any kind of problems with heat as in the room I had them was a window always open.

Please indicate shipping for Greece and if there is any VAT added over there???
I need this info for the Sha256 model gridseed A1

Εχεις δικιο υπαρχει βεβαια διαφορα υπερ του Ghash αλλα ειναι μικρη
σημασια εχει και το pool luck
οταν εχει πολλα blocks το pool luck να βρει περισοττερα βιτς ειναι καλο
η συγκριση ειχε γινει με το ΒΤCGUILD ΓΙΑΤΙ ο slush παραειναι αργος δεν εχει αν δεν κανω λαθος
δεν εχει kai namecoin
εγω μαιναρω και ltc οποτε μπορω να κανω και trade επιτοπου οχι πηγαινε τα στον cryptsy και μετα
αλλου ολα μαζι ghash.
κλεφτες ειναι ολοι βεβαια τελευταιες βδομαδες εκανε πολλα τρελα
αλλα τι να γινει δεν ξερω αν θα ειχε ενδιαφερον σαν ελληνες να εχουμε ελληνικο pool
οπως οι πολωνοι...

With the chinese we are nearly ready to forget our consumer habits
Change the miner product for a car lets say and make your comparison


1) new car is a new never USED car  or a car taking passengers for 3months in China
    New miner is a used 3months hashing for the seller and then when paid off
sold to the new succer with profit

2) When a car does not run you return it immidiatelly request a new car or money back
when a miner does not run you have to be an electric engineer to find out WHERE  is the
problem with the board / PSU or loose cables.YOU can only email them and they will say to you OK
pay post expenses possible export taxes to return it in your expenses and there is no known future
as both money and product on the air....

3)the list can go on and on and on can include guarantee that there is NON existant,  can include customer support that its poor,  can include BTC theft that its common,  can include many criminal activities that they are present but not punished.


I am not strange just fustrated with the chinese customer support
In the United states and Europe the buyer can FCUK the seller if something is wrong with the product
but I see that with Bitcoin miners happens excactly the opposite.
Are there any drugs inside the miners making all of us including me
act like sheeps.



Remember its our money and our electricity making them rich.
I learned from my first work to expect honest payment for a days work and honest spending of this money
so I enjoy them
We must make rules that sellers must follow not what happens now
for instance what is this situation with the preorders......
The Chinese make investments with MY MONEY and if this does not go wrong wow investment failed.....
BTC lost effort hope and electricity.

All these items have very very low WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) due to noise heat expenses
if at least they had a profit it would be different but doing all this and loose
not even river jordan will wash my sins....

I think that the future of Bitcoin is to be spread from miners into others and become and
expand the currency we want.
if the Miners are the first to be screwed what is the future of this currency

I would propose if the operators can do it to be able to vote for the companies with good
overall performance and this voting to be continued with comments kinda ebay feedback system

or demand from all the companies to sell their items directly with ebay.
if this was possible

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names you all know

and possibly others I forget would not be able to trick anyone.
Ebay is not the paradise of good people but its better that here

HEELLOOO you dont have the product available bye bye
No preorder
Put your onw money expenses and effort to produce it then be able to sell it
this way you will honor your product and your buyer.

and others would not be super rich and thieves
I dont know do I only see things this way.
I have collected an amount of BTC with mining and ready to purchase a miner
What to choose is a big question when you have the BTC

SMART REPLIES or COMPANY EMPLOEES / DEFENDERS PLEASE SAVE THEM

I have among others 1 antminer U2 at my work computer and while its open for doing the the casual work its running BFGminer on the backside.Best share i looked today was nearly half of it but when I leave my office i switch it off.
Best share I remember is 9k I dont know if I have found a block with it althoght it will be very strange

εχω στειλει Pm το πηρες

I actually had more problems with USB ports and this was due to hardware errors so gave up on them
I will only buy a rig that has ethernet port.

dust is a big problem for all electronics
they change the values of electronics with dust and heat
so fear of changing values lead into equipment fail
Decent cleaning with presured air is required more often

Who does not want to be smart but cant do it all unless you have a big farm and enjoy big BTC production.

32 S1s
9 S2s
2 Dragons
2 Jupiters
2 SP10s

Total = ~22 TH/s
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Nice Setup there my spaggeti is not to be photographed at all.

Its an interesting project however there are two points that could be on an option decided by the buyer in order
to increase safety.

1) have the option to buy just 2 x-box and not thrue reseller as that will increase the price so it will become less profitable for the simple user.If this the one you try to protect after all.
2) You mention your payments in case of more BTC produced in the 60 days period will have the company reputation as assurance.

My dear I dont question your company reputation but we have seen a number of companies and number of buyers that relied on companies reputation and were pretty much fucked up and lost their money.

Why do not you follow the example of Bitmain and deliver only what is already produced.

Also want to comment its not good to work with other people money OK we are all miners
but being on the safe side its critical after what we have seen.

Make a market research ask your potential buyers and act accordigly
this way my personal opinion your wallet will grow more safelly.

from my point of view is that Antminer S1 has been so far the most successful bitcoin miner
the company that will make use of the thousand power supplies already used from Antminer S1
will have a huge advantage against the others.

I hope you deliver what you say and hope to become your customer one day.
 

What is most important is to make a really low low power High effiency miner
At least my biggest problem is electricity cost
not the multiplugs I have to buy or the rooter cables or the shelves to put them
or the noise that comes out of my garage.
Its electricity !!!

How are you powering 3 SP10's in your home? And cooling them? Is it summer there yet?
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Yup, it is summer with 32° outside. First of all: Open windows in the night, close the shutters at daytime. That keeps the cold in the building. So that does the trick at the moment. Regarding power at home: I'm at the limit with three SP10, 12 Antminers, 2 Dragons and some Scrypt-Rigs. Now for every new miner like an SP10 or 30, I have to get rid of some Ants....
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Its Swiss he is living. Even in the summer its cooler from what I know as its mountainous area and lots of green too

Here is the first one 321424756419 on the bay

In many many cases there are Paypal scum artist so beware not paypal or credit card.
I have lost much money with paypal as their system is buyer oriented.
Lately only they have add a record for the frequent fradulent buyers that works
I had an ebay case with paypal that I lost the case but they did not refund the buyer....
first good thing in 10 years on  ebay