One of his alts that we don't know about will win. What else did you think was going to happen. Trying to build trust and / or merit.

That do it a few times and people see him paying out gets some trust and / or merit then the scamming begins.

Or is that to cynical?

-Dave

I think I get what bitmover was trying to say.
There are 2 answers to the question, depending on how you look at the question.

1 answer, which you can get a reasonably close guess to is how much work of SHA-256 hashes has gone into the blockchain that we can calculate. That you can get a reasonably close answer to.

What we can NEVER know, is how many miners spent how much time hashing away never finding a hash that solved a block. Can't even reasonably guess since we don't know what we don't know. i.e. I could have 1PH sitting here mining to a private solo pool for a year and never found a bock so nobody outside of me would know it existed. And if it DID find a block you would never know if I had a massive farm or 1 USB stick and just got really really lucky.

-Dave

Reddit and a few other places in addition to twitter are also discussing it. Looks like they decided to send out a bunch over the last few days. Wonder if something changed, or they noticed more funds coming form some locations to some peoples accounts. Or, it could just be random BS. With Binance you just never know.

Not your keys, not your coins. If you need to trade, send the funds, exchange them and withdraw them.  

Side note, mailchimp had a data leak the other day, so double check everything.

-Dave

Not sure if it would work for you but with bitcoin itself you can use RPC calls to sign and verify messages.
You can import a private key with the don't rescan the blockchain option and then sign with it.
That or I am totally missing the point of what you are looking for.

-Dave

1) As pointed out this is a bit of an odd way of doing things. If something goes wrong trying to undo it is going to be very difficult. Why generate more work?

2) Also as pointed out any collectable with a self generated key is also fine.
2a) A couple of small collectables each with part of a Shamir’s Secret Sharing would also work and you / trusted others could also keep parts of it.

3) Make sure someone other then you knows how to get to the funds. It's the bus tomorrow morning you could get hit by a bus. If someone comes here or to other places for support there MAY be a chance that if you use a standard method someone could help you mom get the funds out. With your way they are lost forever.

-Dave

Probably NOT the same issue but: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422223
When you say different QR scanners were they all on the same phone?
Would not put it past yogg to put on a bad code but someone I work with just had to deal with not being able to scan a decent sized QR code with an iPhone 13 when everyone else could with no issues; his nothing would not even recognize that it was a code. Same phone scanned every other QR with no issues.

-Dave

And we are full.
Rolling with 772421

tread93 is the winner.
PM me your shipping info and I'll get it out to you tomorrow.

-Dave

In a lot of places gas was going away anyway. That is the part that nobody seems to be talking about. No gas stoves, no gas dryers, no gas water heaters.

One less trade to have to deal with in construction.
One less fire / explosion hazard to deal with in insurance.
One less service that has to be dragged from the street to the home.
One less inspector that has to come in and take a look at the work.
And so on.

My place was built in the mid 2000s so the plans / construction permits and so on were in the early 2000s time.
The NEXT neighborhood that construction started on about a mile or two away was pure electric. No gas service at all. Figure plans and permits were all done in the 2005 to 8 time with construction starting in 2008.
Long before 'getting rid of gas stoves' even existed. It's just pure economics.

You are already running power to appliances for the most part anyway so the electrician is already there doing things.

And the major plus about this. MORE HIGH POWER / HIGH AMP CIRCUITS TO RUN MINERS. :-)

-Dave

I'm going with gimmick.
Over the years McD has a lot of the time had the ability to come up with something a bit different, and they started to and seemed to be going in that direction. And then stopped and did something that was more of a gimmick.

Here in NY they had food trailers. Basically they would drop a take out only restaurant someplace with a limited menu and higher prices BUT have some GOOD give away to go along with it. (beach pass, local water park pass, whatever) and people would line up to pay more for less to get a free thing.
Then they stopped with the 'real' gifts raised the prices even more and gave you contest entries.
And then it died. Think that was late 80s early 90s don't exactly remember the years.

Close to 30 years later when their app came out they were one of the earlier ones, and could have taken the lead. But nope, some perks and you could order the same food.

And decades of the same in between.

So I'm going with gimmick.

Long post about fast food, but I see it as systemic to so many BTC projects. We all look at them and think of the potential, and then see what really comes out and shake our heads.

-Dave

OTOH anything that is using the twitter API can be shut down with no warning and no reason given:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/16/twitters-third-party-client-issue-is-seemingly-a-deliberate-suspension/

So projects like this are now always going to be 1 Elon is having a bad day away of being shut down if they or anything they access relies on any form of API from Twitter.
Keep that in mind, you may have to have a way to do this without ever touching any of their back end calls.

Not saying it will happed just that it can, and if you are going to be charging for the service it's going to be a nightmare as others are finding out now.

-Dave

But as stompix says, it makes good headlines. And more importantly it gets the sheep that do listen to the doomsayers like A--x J---s to buy the gold that the people are advertising on his show for only 20% more then they could probably buy it locally. And lets not forget the canned food and shotgun advertisers that are also popular with that group of people.

OTOH, it does make BTC look better and might even partly responsible in a very small way for the bump in prove over the last few days so can't complain about that.

-Dave

Although I hate responding to the trolls I have to go with everyone above the OP is just trying to cause trouble. At least for those coins people got paid for a campaign.

The other thing is has anyone else noticed that Lutpin is still reading here just not posting. His last active date keeps somewhat current but last time he posted anything was a year and a half ago. I remember him when he was active. A very quick glance and I can't see any real drama, did I miss something or did he just walk away from posting for a while.

-Dave

More or less the same as what happens when you boot any other computer.

The firmware (BIOS) does a quick check of some things same as your PC, then it loads an OS, in the case of miners it's linux.
Then it start running some programs. A web server so you can see whats going on and a mining program so it can mine.

That is it. There will be some slight differences based on manufacturer but not much.

You can go out and buy a USB stick miner and run cgminer yourself on any PC and are doing the exact same thing that a full miner is doing.
Just a lot slower.....

You should move this to the hardware board. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0

-Dave

And this is the important part, once you use it to recover whatever you wanted to recover if you put any key / seed / whatever into a live wallet consider it forever out there in the open.

Once you type something into a live system / hot wallet never think it's safe.

There is where the danger is. Yes, it's a very slight danger, but don;t think it does not exist.
There are many coins with interchangeable private keys....

-Dave

Ballet is closed source: https://walletscrutiny.com/android/com.balletcrypto/ and plenty of people use them.
There is going to have to be an adjustment period here, where things are hashed out and tried and discussed and tested and weak points are found and tried again.

WhyFhy has a good product, for reasons if you agree with them or not his product for now is a is a black box.
How far would he have to open it for everyone to be happy? That is going to have to be part of the discussion.

Fully open? Code reviewed by some trusted people under NDA? Something else? Everything is going to have to be on the table here.

Going to the 'use some form of hardware tag' that I was talking about over the weekend, how far do we go with that in terms of how it's made, who can make it and so on.

These are things that are going to have to be worked on.

Full disclosure I have used WhyFly's service and have some funds on addresses that were generated there. I have bought equipment from him and I sent the funds 1st.
He has had plenty of times he could have ripped me off and did not.

-Dave

Don't forget the other rare reason, bad programming from years ago when BTC was under $100 and transactions were free.

I am probably responsible for a lot of dust being out there in 1000s and 1000s of addresses from me being a crap programmer trying to make things work a decade ago.

It is what it is. This case is different but at times it is legit.

-Dave

AH, but do you really know?
I have met about 6 people from the forum and probably spoken to another 6.
I know what they tell me their name is, but I didn't search for them and make sure Brian is really Brian. Or is Brian his middle name and he still wanted some anonymity.

Makes you think.

Nothing nefarious, just a bit of healthy paranoia.

-Dave

Short answer: Probably not.

Loner answer: It comes down to a number of factors. Once you buy the miner and panels and some form of backup to keep it running at night and when the local power is off and the cost of the internet and so on then you may eventually get past the base RoI and start making some profit. So long as the equipment has no issues, there are no taxes & local regulations that may force a longer time to get to profit and so on.

Add in the fact the difficulty keeps going up and the price may be up or down and you get a long drawn out amount of math that may not be accurate in a week when the price and difficulty change.

-Dave

Been doing some googling today about nfc and many casinos are using them in their chips. With the use / abuse and washing / cleaning cycles that they go through the chips tend to be destroyed before the tags stop working. BUT, there seems to be very little real data on that; just comments and discussions. If there is some public information out there my google skills are lacking in finding it.

The issue that comes to mind is that for casinos, a lot of the time, when it comes to dealing with the money side of it, cost is not an issue.
They don't, but if they replaced them as they are damaged beyond repair, they would probably buy more tomorrow to replace the ones damaged over the weekend then all the coin makers here would buy this year combined.

What would be the upper limit of additional cost people would be willing to pay for coins like that. Could put the lower end ones out of business, which is not the goal here. Nor a desired side effect.

-Dave