In addition to what @LoyceV said I would check permissions. Since you said you copied it from another machine to another can this one read & write to those files & folders.

Also, what does the debug.log file say? Any can't read or writes to anyplace?

And, I know it's stupid but I have done it did you verify the <external_hdd> is the same mount name in both. Spent way too much time diagnosing that one once.

-Dave

You can also then get rid of working on classic cars. Hunting down cool collectables (be it crypto or other) and lots of other things that really have probability to loose you more in time and money they they will ever generate. But, if you enjoy doing it, want to learn how to do it and understand the process then there is no reason not to do it.

The OP asked a question, will it be profitable. The answer is really probably not. The question was not if they should do it or not.

Back in the early 2000s over a few years a neighbor of my parents rebuilt a 1980s Ferrari 308. For the cost of parts and the 1000s of hours of labor he really could have gotten a part time job stocking shelves at minim wage at the local supermarket and BOUGHT a fully restored one AND had more money and free time. But he would not have had nearly as much fun. He sold it at a loss based on money and time invested and went out and started doing another one......


-Dave

Hope you don't mind I replaced the image you had with a slightly different one. Still gives the same information.

This kind of crap is what brought BTC into existence. People moving money that did not exist and loaning money that did not exist so people could invest in things that should not have been invested in.
Then the economy imploded.
<sigh>

I guess in the end people will keep doing what they have been doing. Be it with fiat / crypto or whatever.

-Dave

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Are they converting to fiat / what are they doing with the donations to convert them to things they need?

Who has / controls the private keys do they understand the security implications or are you now executive VP in charge of Crypto handling. Been there, done that on my end and finally had to show someone else the ropes so to speak.

-Dave

I do that and IIRC so do you and a bunch of others. But they are ugly, have wires everywhere and so on.

Thinking you are going to make a profit mining with a device like this is beyond ridiculous.
Thinking that you are going to pay a bit less to run a space heater is an acceptable answer.

If you are a gadget geek, spending a bunch of money on something like this is not out of the realm of what you do.

With all due respect to voltagegoat.com, who has products I love. Does anyone really need a $500 nixie tube bitcoin price ticker? A $20 used amazon echo 5 will do more, use less power and so on.
It's just not as cool. Same with this, it's a stupid expensive, probably difficult to configure space heater. But it mines crypto, so there is a market for it.

-Dave

Because they might need it? If part of your needed income was buying / selling / trading collectables and all of a sudden a lot of it's value was wiped out it might be causing a bit of difficulty.
It's not just the amount of the BTC on the card, it is also the amount that was paid as a premium because it was a collectable. They are not getting the extra back, so getting something back could make a difference.
AND, with FTX along with all the other things that happened in the last few months even people who would not normally need it, may need it now.

And so on.

Or, and this is a respectable answer too, because he offered. Some people may not have gone out and asked for the BTC, but since he offered they will take it.
Fine line, but I can see some people thinking that way.

Just to be open, I took a hit but I have been doing this long enough and knew the risks of getting funded things from people so in my mind it is what it is. Not asking for anything back and just taking my lumps and moving on. But, as I said I can see other people acting differently.

-Dave

Yes and no. They might be worried about another major downturn and want to have cash on hand to ride it out.
NOT saying that this is what is happening here, but more and more you see businesses hoarding more and more cash *just in case*.

There were a lot of viable business out there that could not survive the 2008 market crash and others that went out during Covid. There were profitable and doing well, but needed that cash to keep flowing. Without that they just did not have the liquidity to keep it going. So now they hoard. There are a bunch of downsides to doing that too.

Once again, not saying that is what is happening here, just that it does happen.

-Dave

You are still going to have to get 12V to the hash boards and the control board not 5V. They are hard wired to convert the 12V from a PCIe plug to the voltage they need.
After that you can pull 2 of the boards, like a lot of us do for converting them into silent space heaters.
Then grab one of the custom firmwares that are out there to shut down most of the chips on the board.

You would also need to figure out fan control, and a few other things, probably not worth the time and effort.

-Dave

You did see that this thread has been dead for almost 3 years until you decided to post.

And lets review you your 1st post on this forum was about you loosing a phone with $78000 of crypto on it.
Then you went to blame duckdice because you lost your phone and did not have a way of recovering your account.

Perhaps you should stick to traditional banks and casinos, this way you don't have to worry about protecting your money or your accounts. Since it really looks like you can't do it yourself.

-Dave

And we are full.
Rolling with 772749

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-Dave

https://1ml.com/ tends to be accepted as a generally accurate view of nodes and amounts on it and such.
As for the use question, it's hard to say since more or less due to the way it operates transactions are more or less anonymous.  
So you can't tell if I sent 100 transactions or 100 people sent 1 transaction.

Not to mention the custodial wallets that people may be using so you loose more data there since payments could be from several people all coming from 1 channel.

And yes, the date of the 1st paper with a date works as the birthday.

-Dave

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Because we all walk around with blinders on see the parts of the forum we want to see and reading and responding to posts that are interesting to us.
I even posted in the hardware wallets board to see if a people more interested in that side of BTC so to speak would have any ideas and I got 1 entire reply to the post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434824.0

I see this / have seen it in other parts of the board. Years ago, mining hardware maker scams were barely mentioned, if mentioned at all outside the the mining hardware boards.

Unless you have the time and effort to follow every big thing, even big things now and then are going to be missed.

And, lets face it, compared to the exchange implosions and everything else over the last few months this is a rounding error in terms of money.

-Dave

Surprised at the number of people who are still going to collect without changes.
Everybody has their own level of risk tolerance, I thought after getting burned more people would be risk adverse.

Guess we will have to see how everything plays out in the future.

I am going to keep collecting and selling and trading, but I always knew in the back of my mind that this could happen, so I did things with that in mind.

-Dave

Cool. Are you going to open source it or keep it closed?
I'm not one of those people who are going to scream at you that it should be free and open and out there since you made it, you can do what you want with it.
Also is there place online we can check it out?

-Dave

I would actually go the other way that the main board was with things that people could quickly glance at to see if it matters to them and below that a more open discussion. There would probably be some topic that would stay more or less at the top, and I would worry that others that are important / relevant to some people would gut buried unless they were forced into the date / subject order.

Using what I posted above, a discussion about firewall security could go on for pages and pages with people discussing brands and settings and whatever. A big obvious your old Cisco router is now vulnerable may get a few more eyeballs on it.

Just my view. I also think that if people can give a quick glance for 'Cisco' or 'Asus' or whatever it might help.

But also lets be serious, as a group we still can't get not your keys not your coins pounded thought some peoples heads.

-Dave

Might not be the worst outcome. Given enough time and effort they might be able to make enough money to cover the losses and pay everyone back.
Also, might be able to work on better negotiations with the people they owe. i.e. we give you 75% now and you walk or we can try to pay you back but we can't guaranty how much of it or any particular time frame.
Enough people might take the buyout that it gives them even more time and money to get things done.

I have see things like this work in other financial things and see it implode impressively. Lets see how this one turns out.

-Dave

The next step would have to be what a 'reasonable estimate' is for the hashpower that is out there that we don't know about.
I really think it's a lot more then people think OR can be proven. But, I [wait for it] can't prove it.

We know about the big pools, we know about the small pools, we know about the occasional unknown block that pops up.

Most people think that the number of people solo mining to pools they setup themselves is small as in dozens at most. I think it's way higher then that. But we never see them because the "paranoid tinfoil hat brigade" that does not trust mining pools and thinks they can do better themselves because all the pools are out to get you are a lot more common then we see here.

But, we will never see them get a block or even know they exist because their crap setups could never find a block even with all the hash in the world. But they are doing it themselves because they know better. You see these people pop up in the hardware and pool board now and then.

In terms of BTC itself they really do not matter, but and I guess we will have to disagree here, saying that you can use stats to find them is not a realistic thing because they are hashing to find a block but they never will and cannot and there is no way to even know they exist.

I can take you to a data center in NY where someone is paying probably close to $1k a month to run a bunch of S19 that mine to his super special custom coded pool that is going to get a block real soon now.......

-Dave

Would be good if it was setup like the Bitcoin Discussion > Press section.
This way it could be looked at quickly so people could see if things are going to matter to them.

[2023-01-12] Cisco Warns of Critical Vulnerability in EoL Small Business Routers
[2023-01-11] Dell PowerEdge Server Security Update for AMD Server Vulnerabilities 

And the 1st few lines should have a brief description and links to the appropriate information.

This MIGHT get people to at least scan it to see if there is something about a product that they use.
Otherwise it really does stand a good chance of getting buried on page 7 never to be seen.

-Dave

One of his alts that we don't know about will win. What else did you think was going to happen. Trying to build trust and / or merit.

That do it a few times and people see him paying out gets some trust and / or merit then the scamming begins.

Or is that to cynical?

-Dave