Well thank god the backup server is up i was able to get my coins out in time, quick thinking there!
it sucks the main site is down though it kinda looks bad to the public can I ask what you guys are doing to upgrade your protection?
sounds like cloudflare is not going to cut it for you in the future, I only used moneypot for the fun and not as an investment but I would be quite concerned were it the other way around, but then again I've seen you here walking the community through everything not every dev is so open about whats going on so major props on that man!
don't let them get you down....figuratively anyway! Moneypot is a bad ass idea no matter what they do to your servers. I'm not some awesome server expert guy so i don't know what the deal is buy it sounds like you need to throw some of that bankroll at firewalls LOL
There is no cause for concern for investors, we are still processing bets and the bankroll is still increasing its profits. Of course, volume is much lower than typical due to the frequent outage, and most importantly no funds are at risk. The vast majority of the bankroll is consisted of just a few investors whom we are in frequent talks with, the bankroll isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Thank you for the kind words, its a bit frustrating for the site to be going up/down, but it is what it is. As far as spending on firewalls, we are currently spending a couple hundred bucks a month with CloudFlare, and we are considering more expensive options elsewhere. |
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Everything should be ok. They just have a way of bombarding the site with traffic trying to jam it up so the owners pay a ransom. Monies should be safe.
Again, no demands of ransom. One of our competitors can't handle the competition. |
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Why is moneypot under DDOS attack ?
No one except the DDOSer, probably knows the reason behind the attack. It could be for fun (doubt it), trying to take down a competitor or it is someone who got mad that they lost funds. Could be an extortion attempt as well. Will this effect investments ?
Yes. Since MoneyPot can't be accessed sometimes, the bankroll won't move during that time, and no profit/loss will happen. I'm guessing they will pause till everything is under control. But why is this happening ?
It is happening because someone decided to attack moneypot. Read more here, if your not too busy spamming for YoBit. Maybe after you make your 20 posts? The attack is to complex/resource intensive for it to be someone doing it for fun. We have received no extortion requests, this is almost certainly a competitor. |
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In case anyone is wondering, both the OP and Phoenix1969 are clearly purchased accounts, with Phoenix1969 being purchased less then a week prior to this thread opening. I would say there is a decent chance that the OP and Phoenix1969 are actually the same person, and based on that "Frank" and "Jigar" probably don't exist either.
It also looks like some of the deposits are being funneled to various exchanges that you do not need to share your identity with in order to deposit and withdraw, and as a result I suspect that some of the BTC is either recycled or otherwise belongs to the person behind this project.
There also appears to be a decent number of sockpuppets in this thread. I suspect that siameze, b0art, SeriousInvestor, RollingSeriously, EXmoneypotER and starswper are sockpuppets for this project. I suspect a few others as well, but the evidence is not quite as clear.
If someone were to ask me, then I would say that the chances of this project ending in a scam is somewhere in the 95% range
How can anyone trust you? Look at your feedback from some of the most trusted people on this forum.BayAreaCoins- Reference I would not recommend for escrow. Nor would I trust. I believe this user is using his DT to diddle the system. John (John K.) I have reasons (and evidence) to believe that this user is engaging in self-collusion by the means of using alt accounts in order present a facade of trust in his business dealings. This is a breach of trust instilled by others, and a blatant disregard of the essence of the trust system this forum is operating on. I've seen enough of the unfolding situation here to change this into a negative trust. Vod : Continues to post an address and phone number of a woman who has the same first initial as me and lives in the same city, claiming it is my address. He is inviting harassment on what is probably a very innocent person. jonald_fyookball : Thinks its perfectly ok to use secret alts and be your own escrow. I'm under the impression that he refunded all such escrow fees that were asked for, so I wouldn't go so far as to call him a scammer, but I seriously question this user's judgement. You are also ignoring his feedback from people such as Blazed, TomatoCage and others, thanks for identifying another sockpuppet. The fact of the matter is this is a terrible investment. The sockpuppets of the OP started trolling my business because I called them out on that. Again, even in the slight event they are successful, you are getting a fraction of the return with them as you are with ANY other existing casino site that accepts public investment. Literally ANY other site would bring you a higher return. And the downside is incredibly smaller with other sites. If anyone wants to put their money where their mouth is, I will wager 5 BTC that this either ends in a scam, or that investors do not see a 40% return within the first year of operations (which is comparable to investing on other dice sites). If you are a newbie account, or otherwise lack any signs that you can afford this bet, you need to put 10% down in a mutually agreed upon escrow until the terms of the bet are over. The math on this is literally so simple its just mind boggling. You are essentially getting 15% of the HE here, whereas on other sites you get somewhere between 30-90% of the house edge. They already have an existing userbase, you need to build yours from scratch (meaning with them you for sure get volume. And no, getting actual volume players is not easy). With them, if you want to divest, you can instantly pull your entire invested amount out. With this? Not so much, you bought equity so you no longer "own" the cash you invested and cannot pull out its full value. No! We all know quickseller is not to be trusted. Let's not debate that because that debate can last forever. What we can debate though is your math. By my math as a top 10 investor I'm supposed to get my equal part of 10% of all house profits, on top of that im to share in another 15% of house profits. And on top of that, 10% of house profits will be used to buy back LIR from the market, so if I have my sell orders placed correctly I stand to earn more from selling them back the coins in the first place. I am invested in your project too, and I invested about a week or so after you had bought it. I never had any issues or problems with MP but after seeing you on this thread trying to discredit the team and project with your friends I'm seriously thinking about taking my btc off MP for now until you relax and stop attacking other coins. The devs we're even asked if there was a bonus for people who took their btc from other gambling sites bankrolls and moved them here and the team answered so gracefully, responding to the question and saying something like " we dont want people taking money from other sites to fund our project..." Now if you have an issue with a member on the forums please don't take that issue out on everyone else. Personally if I was you I would be trying to contact that person 1 on 1 and ensure him that MP is the place he should have his funds, and that your sorry that the site went down ect. Not arguing on another projects thread and trying to tear them down because you have an upset investor. Back to the math, the team already stated that they plan on buying back as many of the coins as possible, if im willing to wait some time, which I am, I have no doubt that I'll get over double my investment from selling my LIR back to the team and reaping the rewards from the top 10 investor and the 25% I have little doubt that I wont be able to get a clean double at least on my money , and most probably even more if I hold the LIR for a longer time. For the majority of people, being a top 10 investor doesn't really mean much. I appreciate you invested on our site, if anyone wants to move their funds from MoneyPot to here they are welcome to. You should also note I have not once promoted MoneyPot in this thread, I have always used MoneyPot's competitors (Bet King, SatoshiDice etc) as the examples used, and I am posting from my personal account and not an official moneypot account, my personal beliefs are not necessarily the beliefs of my entire team. I would also like to note that there are several sockpuppets (this is not arguable, they are sockpuppets, one of them is named "exmoneypoter") trolling MoneyPot's thread now. I have now seen not one, not two, but 3 gaming related ICO's in the past couple months. Gamebet.gg - Trading much lower than ICO (we are now 3 months after the fact), has no traction and several investors still haven't received the perks they were promised. I warned people multiple times and I got called a troll, shilling for MoneyPot (even though MoneyPot isn't even in the e-sports betting industry, lol) and how I didn't know what I was talking about and they would all make money hand over fist. Peerplays - Their ICO was going nowhere until they announced they were going to be part of the DAO (lol), now they start getting a ton of money thrown at them. The people building Peerplays are also working on several other projects. When you don't have a single product off the ground, you shouldn't be working on multiple different projects. I will wager a nice amount of money they fail. Let It Ride - If you disagree with the argument I put forward, fine, suit yourself. Good luck with your investment. I don't think people understand how the gambling market works from a operator's perspective, and just how difficult it is to be profitable in the industry. Simply creating a site and giving it a bankroll does not = profit. 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Phewwwwwwwwwwwwww.
At least I got my small amount of btc from the site before all this started.
I still like playing on plinkopot and that's down too. when will it come back up?
"ex moneypoter", nice username troll. Ignored and left negative trust. |
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Why is moneypot under DDOS attack ? Will this effect investments ? I'm guessing they will pause till everything is under control. But why is this happening ?
All funds are secure, the issue is that they are keeping our site down which means players are having a hard time betting. I can say with almost complete certainty that this is a jealous competitor that is simply trying to steal our business. I think its also important to note that even though service has been spotty, the site BR has profited ~10 BTC this week. |
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We will have an event based on our new game C.O.R.E. so letting players know ahead of time you may want to grab some Rubies and send them to your accounts to be ready for it. Moderators will post it probably within 24 hours.
Awesome! |
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Strange how the ddos has continued for weeks no player trolls that long so it should be quite obvious it's one of your competitors. That's so sleazy and low brow of them. Sad that they resort to that stuff.
Likely because BB alone was #2 behind PD for the last 40 days before the DDoS attacks started. Despite the constant attacks, bankroll profit is at an all time high and continues to climb. We are in the process of vetting new defense systems, that while they will cost a very pretty penny, will ensure the attacker won't be able to keep us down. |
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500 BTC added to the bankroll?! All from one investor? And does that total show the house contribution to the bankroll as well as investors'?
At current climate and prices, that investor taking a big risk Why is there a greater risk now? that other investors pulled out opens up new opportunities. The price is good to exchange for fiat and the new owners are not known, and they had slow response to support tickets The owners paid an incredibly high amount for this site, the chances of them running off are very slim. |
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In case anyone is wondering, both the OP and Phoenix1969 are clearly purchased accounts, with Phoenix1969 being purchased less then a week prior to this thread opening. I would say there is a decent chance that the OP and Phoenix1969 are actually the same person, and based on that "Frank" and "Jigar" probably don't exist either.
It also looks like some of the deposits are being funneled to various exchanges that you do not need to share your identity with in order to deposit and withdraw, and as a result I suspect that some of the BTC is either recycled or otherwise belongs to the person behind this project.
There also appears to be a decent number of sockpuppets in this thread. I suspect that siameze, b0art, SeriousInvestor, RollingSeriously, EXmoneypotER and starswper are sockpuppets for this project. I suspect a few others as well, but the evidence is not quite as clear.
If someone were to ask me, then I would say that the chances of this project ending in a scam is somewhere in the 95% range
How can anyone trust you? Look at your feedback from some of the most trusted people on this forum.BayAreaCoins- Reference I would not recommend for escrow. Nor would I trust. I believe this user is using his DT to diddle the system. John (John K.) I have reasons (and evidence) to believe that this user is engaging in self-collusion by the means of using alt accounts in order present a facade of trust in his business dealings. This is a breach of trust instilled by others, and a blatant disregard of the essence of the trust system this forum is operating on. I've seen enough of the unfolding situation here to change this into a negative trust. Vod : Continues to post an address and phone number of a woman who has the same first initial as me and lives in the same city, claiming it is my address. He is inviting harassment on what is probably a very innocent person. jonald_fyookball : Thinks its perfectly ok to use secret alts and be your own escrow. I'm under the impression that he refunded all such escrow fees that were asked for, so I wouldn't go so far as to call him a scammer, but I seriously question this user's judgement. You are also ignoring his feedback from people such as Blazed, TomatoCage and others, thanks for identifying another sockpuppet. The fact of the matter is this is a terrible investment. The sockpuppets of the OP started trolling my business because I called them out on that. Again, even in the slight event they are successful, you are getting a fraction of the return with them as you are with ANY other existing casino site that accepts public investment. Literally ANY other site would bring you a higher return. And the downside is incredibly smaller with other sites. If anyone wants to put their money where their mouth is, I will wager 5 BTC that this either ends in a scam, or that investors do not see a 40% return within the first year of operations (which is comparable to investing on other dice sites). If you are a newbie account, or otherwise lack any signs that you can afford this bet, you need to put 10% down in a mutually agreed upon escrow until the terms of the bet are over. The math on this is literally so simple its just mind boggling. You are essentially getting 15% of the HE here, whereas on other sites you get somewhere between 30-90% of the house edge. They already have an existing userbase, you need to build yours from scratch (meaning with them you for sure get volume. And no, getting actual volume players is not easy). With them, if you want to divest, you can instantly pull your entire invested amount out. With this? Not so much, you bought equity so you no longer "own" the cash you invested and cannot pull out its full value. |
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Is moneypot down? I am facing an 522 cloudfare error.Shows me host is down.Can anyone please verify me that is it me only or it is really that moneypot is down?
The site is currently up, however it goes down sporadically due to the DDoS attack thats currently hitting us. |
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Guys can both of you chill out a bit and forget about it. To me, moneypot and LIR have both it cons and pros. There is no need to slam one another. I believe the success of both projects and i am involved in both project too.
No one is slamming each other here. From what i have seen it seems Acoin is just stating some realistic calculation for the project which the potential investor should know , this will avoid them to invest in it blindly however b0art seems to take it as an attack and try to attack back on this thread I am fine with genuine concern/criticism. I'm just done with the blatant trolling/FUD that is not supported by anything. And yes, he probably came here because I showed the math on LIR's ANN thread on why even if Let It Ride is a success it would still underperform compared to investing in quite literally any other gambling site. And thats assuming its successful. As Uni mentioned, we are under massive DDoS attack currently. We apologize for any delays this causes. If anyone is trying to make a large withdrawal, please message one of us. |
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But due to high traffic volume of bets, the database tends slow down even after the dead row limit is met, making the generation and saving of the next hash is slower than the speed of your next bet. So in short the second bet was sent before the next_hash has been properly saved to the database thus giving you the INVALID_HASH error as it cannot find the hash.
V2 should resolve this issue, but since then, ill try to find time (very busy with v2) to look into finding a fix for this for the mean time.
That actually seems like a serious problem, as it would affect the provably fair. Every time a user gets "INVALID_HASH" that's pretty much the same as the bet not validating. It might slow it down slightly sending the hash *after* the database transaction has been `COMMIT`ed but correctness is far more important than speed. (And if speed is important, you could use a pre-generated pool of hashes I guess) That is why (as stated in the part you quoted) we will be fixing it shortly, either through the launch of v2.0 (which is coming soon) or a patch for it if v2.0 runs into any issues during final testing. |
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I have to say. I was really upset the other day when I tried 4 times to take money out of mp and I could not because the site was down. This is unacceptable. I have since taken most of my btc out and am investing in the let it ride dice project instead.
After years of business for you to go down for dozens of hours is just unacceptable. If this problem ever happens again I'll be forced to withdrawal the rest of my btc and cease to do business with mp going forward.
Nice try troll. Your just upset I called your project out the other day. MoneyPot has not been down for dozens of hours, infact it hasn't been down in a couple days (when it went down for a couple hours because of a DDoS attack). We also haven't been in business for years... Try 6 months. How am I a troll? Im just voicing my opinion and you are attacking me. What kind of community is this? and infact it was down for over 12 hours because i tried 4 times during the day and it was down each time. Bud, give it up. The site was not down for 12 hours, that is fact, I was on the site all yesterday. Looking at your post history, you are either part of the Let It Ride team or seriously invested. Its not my fault you invested in a shitty project and I called that project out. When I called it out, I did with the stats provided by the Let It Ride team. If you want to lie and FUD, I will mark you with negative. It is not lies or fud. The site was down for over 12 hours. It went up I assume at some point but all day when I tried it was down. Others have said the same thing in this thread just a few posts up. I am very invested in LIR, it's true, but I was also invested here. And as an investor I have a right to leave my feedback on a coin or project or item. Now please calm down a bit with your heavy handed abuse of power threats because the road goes both ways.  Just remember that my friend. Its not an abuse of power, you are slandering without any base. Look at the time stamps of the posts you are referring to above, notice how complaints of the site being down are 3+ days old, and once again, the site was down at that point in time due to a series of DDoS attacks. The site was not down yesterday, and our site hasn't been down for 12+ hours since the last heavy maintenance we conducted... which was quite some time ago. You have the right to leave feedback for sure, however only if it is a genuine complaint, we want to provide our users with the best experience possible. Blatant trolling/lies will not be tolerated in the slightest. Maybe you need to read better. I never said the site was down yesterday. I said "THE OTHER DAY" it was down. Which it was, and due to a ddos attack which neither of us are disputing. We are arguing about the time it was down, for me it was all of the waking day, 14hr + or - a few. And I am not fudding or slandering the project. My belief that it is unacceptable for MP to go down is a valid complaint. If you have a bankroll of 1000+ btc like you say then spend some real amount of money to protect your site. Bittrex and poloniex dont go down for many hours at a time, ever! So if you wish to leave me a red trust that will be your decision but im sure anyone who reads this interaction will just see you're abusing your power. Thanks for the laugh (our cold storage is public, we clearly have a BR over 1k+ BTC). Putting you on ignore, I'm done cluttering this thread up. |
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I have to say. I was really upset the other day when I tried 4 times to take money out of mp and I could not because the site was down. This is unacceptable. I have since taken most of my btc out and am investing in the let it ride dice project instead.
After years of business for you to go down for dozens of hours is just unacceptable. If this problem ever happens again I'll be forced to withdrawal the rest of my btc and cease to do business with mp going forward.
Nice try troll. Your just upset I called your project out the other day. MoneyPot has not been down for dozens of hours, infact it hasn't been down in a couple days (when it went down for a couple hours because of a DDoS attack). We also haven't been in business for years... Try 6 months. How am I a troll? Im just voicing my opinion and you are attacking me. What kind of community is this? and infact it was down for over 12 hours because i tried 4 times during the day and it was down each time. Bud, give it up. The site was not down for 12 hours, that is fact, I was on the site all yesterday. Looking at your post history, you are either part of the Let It Ride team or seriously invested. Its not my fault you invested in a shitty project and I called that project out. When I called it out, I did with the stats provided by the Let It Ride team. If you want to lie and FUD, I will mark you with negative. It is not lies or fud. The site was down for over 12 hours. It went up I assume at some point but all day when I tried it was down. Others have said the same thing in this thread just a few posts up. I am very invested in LIR, it's true, but I was also invested here. And as an investor I have a right to leave my feedback on a coin or project or item. Now please calm down a bit with your heavy handed abuse of power threats because the road goes both ways. Just remember that my friend. Its not an abuse of power, you are slandering without any base. Look at the time stamps of the posts you are referring to above, notice how complaints of the site being down are 3+ days old, and once again, the site was down at that point in time due to a series of DDoS attacks. The site was not down yesterday, and our site hasn't been down for 12+ hours since the last heavy maintenance we conducted... which was quite some time ago. You have the right to leave feedback for sure, however only if it is a genuine complaint, we want to provide our users with the best experience possible. Blatant trolling/lies will not be tolerated in the slightest. |
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I have to say. I was really upset the other day when I tried 4 times to take money out of mp and I could not because the site was down. This is unacceptable. I have since taken most of my btc out and am investing in the let it ride dice project instead.
After years of business for you to go down for dozens of hours is just unacceptable. If this problem ever happens again I'll be forced to withdrawal the rest of my btc and cease to do business with mp going forward.
Nice try troll. Your just upset I called your project out the other day. MoneyPot has not been down for dozens of hours, infact it hasn't been down in a couple days (when it went down for a couple hours because of a DDoS attack). We also haven't been in business for years... Try 6 months. How am I a troll? Im just voicing my opinion and you are attacking me. What kind of community is this? and infact it was down for over 12 hours because i tried 4 times during the day and it was down each time. Bud, give it up. The site was not down for 12 hours, that is fact, I was on the site all yesterday. Looking at your post history, you are either part of the Let It Ride team or seriously invested. Its not my fault you invested in a shitty project and I called that project out. When I called it out, I did it with the stats provided by the Let It Ride team. If you want to lie and FUD, I will mark you with negative. |
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I have to say. I was really upset the other day when I tried 4 times to take money out of mp and I could not because the site was down. This is unacceptable. I have since taken most of my btc out and am investing in the let it ride dice project instead.
After years of business for you to go down for dozens of hours is just unacceptable. If this problem ever happens again I'll be forced to withdrawal the rest of my btc and cease to do business with mp going forward.
Nice try troll. You're just upset I called your project out the other day. MoneyPot has not been down for dozens of hours, infact it hasn't been down in a couple days (when it went down for a couple hours because of a DDoS attack). We also haven't been in business for years... Try 6 months. |
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No I'm not setting a Buy it Now, I want everyone to have a fair chance at bidding if they have placed a bid. Starting bid is $1, I started it low to allow users who have previously bid here to be able to bid and have a fair chance. From now on bids will be placed on flippa : https://flippa.com/6530925-pokebits-comYou just set a BIN: 1000$ Stop posting lies and people might start to bid on your auction. When I first created the auction, no buy it now was set, users were notified on the forum of the auction move. All users said they were not going to bid at Flippa, therefore I added a Buy It Now as since no users from the forum said they were going to bid, I have no reason to not add a Buy it Now. After an auction is started and several bids have been placed you cannot just decide to cancel all the bids and move the auction. That is not trustworthy behavior in the slightest. |
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No I'm not setting a Buy it Now, I want everyone to have a fair chance at bidding if they have placed a bid. Starting bid is $1, I started it low to allow users who have previously bid here to be able to bid and have a fair chance. From now on bids will be placed on flippa : https://flippa.com/6530925-pokebits-comYou just set a BIN: 1000$ Stop posting lies and people might start to bid on your auction. I just did that because everyone was complaining. This user is extremely unprofessional, I would highly suggest avoiding his auctions. He sent me this message: Welcome to having negative trust, you want to play that game, I can too bud.
Don't be such a tit because the auction was moved, and furthermore, don't try to form your opinions about why I moved the auction because you're wrong.
Also left me this feedback: "User is a little girl who cries about having to bid on another website and showed his ignorance when trying to formulate his opinionated reason as to why I moved it" |
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