If the Tea Parties near where you live are being funded by tobacco money, I can't speak to that.  Around here; however, I haven't heard anyone talk about corporate 'rights' in any capacity, and there is no evidence that the tobacco industry has any particular interests in the Tea Parties

It suddenly occured to me, while I was trying to get my work clothes washed while at work (mildly hazardous environment means that work clothes never go home to intermingle with family clothes, but company only supplies one washer and dryer per business unit, so I had to find out who left his clothes in the washer for the past four hours) that a laundrymat that uses bitcoins instead of quarters could be lower maintaince and lower initial costs than the current coin operated type.  The coin acceptance devices that are added to the washers and dryers are fairly expensive due to complexity, and subject to mechanical failures.  However, all that it really takes to control the washer or dryer is a set of contacts in line with the start/run circut and perhaps a small display to impart information such as credit and time remaining.  These are simple requirements in line with the smallest of microcontrollers, or a central server could control an entire room full of such machines.

The same could be applied to just about any coin operated automated exchange process, such as a vending machine; but a vending machine is vastly more complex and likely cannot completely replace the coin acceptance with Bitcoin.  Less complicated machines could completely replace the coins with Bitcoin and reduce the overhead in the same way that some large video arcades went to swipe-cards or rfid cards for similar reasons.

If you don’t have at least one twittering appliance in your household, you’re getting behind.

If you don’t have at least one bitcoin appliance in your household, you’re getting behind.

There would be too much of a delay to wait for confirmation from the network.  For speed, the transaction would have to occur much like the IP transaction works, with the receiving node getting a copy of the transaction for itself to check against it's own copy of the blockchain immeditately.

You rock 

Thank you for that quote.

It sounds just ordinarily anti-social until you get to "contribute to a massive increase in collective awareness" then it gets implausible and silly. No offense to your roommate, it's just not my first trip to the enlightenment rodeo.  

'ordinarily anti-social' suggests a complete misunderstanding, and a massive
increase in collective consciousness in no way implies 'enlightenment'.

to begin with, the problems inherent in the system make solutions to those
problems impossible within the framework of the system. therefore, for the
'economy' or anything else to 'get better', the inert baggage of corporatism and
the fractional reserve system must be cleared away somehow. the chaos and panic
that accompanies hyperinflation would do more, at once, to destabilize the
system, than any attempts to reform or curtail or deconstruct it from within.
one of the most significant obstacles to improvement of the status quo is a
pervasive attitude of apathy that the corporate empire entrenches (through
complacency, distractions, and exhausting workforce conditions, among other
things). hyperinflation could potentially "contribute to a massive increase in
collective awareness" in the sense that it would wake massive amounts of people
all at once out of their apathy-trance, presenting them with immediate
situations to address rather than persistent
disappointment/hopelessness/disillusion to try to ignore as they struggle to pay
for food and housing. for example, lonely individuals struggling to pay the rent
month after month, working 40+ hours a week, are not going to challenge the
system or initiate its deconstruction. a whole neighbourhood of people finding
empty grocery shelves, or finding that prices suddenly jumped 600%, are going to
be angry and lash out. "collective awareness" as i used it in my initial
statement refers specifically to BEING AWARE OF THE CURRENT PROBLEMS WE FACE, it
has nothing to do with flimsy fanciful notions of 'enlightenment' or theories of
qualitative states of mind.

@fresno

I totally agree with your argument re liability.  There are many statements on this forum that stick it to TPTB.  If the community were to take your suggested route, it'd be best to nuke this forum, and start one that's heavily moderated to eliminate inappropriate comments.

As I've written here ad nauseam, I'm not interested in Bitcoin as a better PayPal that would be acceptable to TPTB.  I'm interested in Bitcoin as part of net-based monetary systems that could replace government-backed and -controlled fiat currencies.  It could serve as "cryptogold", supplementing physical gold etc.  In order to play such a role, Bitcoin will need to survive attacks by governments and others with massive resources.  It will need allies in the tradecraft communities.

!mapArgs.count("-disablesafemode")

mapArgs.count("-safemode")

// Observe lockdown
throw runtime_error(strWarning);

necrodearia> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/std/stdexcept/runtime_error/ - Does this cause the running process to stop or does it just produce output to the terminal/shell?
<Adrinael> necrodearia, "this"?
<necrodearia> runtime_error
<Adrinael> necrodearia, if you create a runtime_error object, nothing happens. If you throw a runtime_error object, it all depends on if someone catches it, and where.
<Adrinael> { try {  throw runtime_error("Error, halp!");  }  catch (runtime_error& e) { cout << "caught a runtime error: " << e.what(); }   cout << " but still continuing..."; }
<clang> terminated by runtime_error: Error, halp!
<Adrinael> Hmm awesome
<Adrinael> geordi { try {  throw runtime_error("Error, halp!");  }  catch (runtime_error& e) { cout << "caught a runtime error: " << e.what(); }   cout << " but still continuing..."; }
<geordi> caught a runtime error: Error, halp! but still continuing...
<Sausage> How in the hell did it get that wrong?
<Adrinael> Asked Eelis on #geordi, now move along

If classic letter, perhaps it would be interesting if Satoshi were to personally prepare the letter himself and to fancy it with Bitcoin-related art/imagery/symbolism and perhaps even have a Bitcoin sticker to seal the envelope. ^_^  That would be AMAZING! ... and definitely garnish some incentive, motivation and interest for the EFF to consider Bitcoin as a healthy establishment.

hyperinflation, from a political perspective rather than an economic perspective, could destabilize the united states towards decentralization, lead to the collapse of the federal reserve, incite riots against the dollar and fiat currency and capitalism in general, generate necessity-forced dependance on local and sustainable systems, and, as an antidote to apathy, contribute to a massive increase in collective awareness.

If you decide it's a false alarm and want to take your chances, you can use the "-disablesafemode" switch.

Is the letter ready to send to EFF?

hmm. it's very interesting. a global 'micro' currency. i'm happy for it. but at this point in time, i'm more interested in things that increase inflation for the dollar - things that can overburden the current economy - it's nice to know that people are coming up with options, but the status quo needs to change significantly before any solutions can be concretely implemented.

Sorry, slightly of topic, didn't want a whole new thread.

Does ignoring work on this forum? It doesn't for me.

I just realized it was ignore PMs. Is there a general ignore function?

// ==UserScript==
// @name           SMF: Ignore User
// @namespace      n/a
// @description    SMF: Ignore User
// @include        http://bitcointalk.org/*
// @include        https://www.bitcoin.org/smf/*
// @require     http://code.jquery.com/jquery-1.3.2.min.js
// ==/UserScript==

// Path to script for parsing incoming SMS messages

var ignore_ids = [262,381]; // Replace with user ids you want to ignore

function gm_load() {
	if (window.location.href.match(/https?:\/\/(?:www\.)?bitcoin.org\/smf\/(?:index\.php)?\?topic=[0-9.]*/)) {
		$("td.poster_info b a").each(function(index) {
			////http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=683
			for (var i=0; i<ignore_ids.length; i++) {
				var re = new RegExp("https?://(?:www\.)?bitcoin.org/smf/index.php\\?action=profile;u="+ignore_ids[i]);
				if ($(this).attr("href").match(re)) {
					$(this).parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().parent().hide();
				}
			}
		});
	}
}
$(document).ready(function() { gm_load(); });

....and so we begin the system again using bitcoin.Will it go down the same path as the original Tally Stick system?Who can tell.One thing is for sure and that is there are powerful interests out there who would shut it down as soon as they realise its revolutionary value.

<necrodearia> What methods can be pursued to "shut it down" or to cause Bitcoin currency to fail or cease to continue/exist?
<necrodearia> What safeguards exist if any/necessary to prevent such from happening?
<necrodearia> Perhaps it is fairly simple in that someone can create infinite amount of USD and use that to buy all Bitcoins?
<necrodearia> Perhaps allowing the exchange of Bitcoins to other currencies is its weakest link?

I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us started to do the same thing...

Do you accept Bitcoin for products purchased from your store?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10911#msg10911