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21  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 30, 2016, 12:29:03 AM
Done.

Also I just meant that it'd be at risk if you decided to sell it to recover your losses.

I did not mean to imply you would try to infect my community my apologies.

Once you return the account I will be sure to post positive rep from both SwingDev and MurderousKirk.

OK thanks

I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THIS ACCOUNT.

ALSO ONCE YOU GET YOUR ACCOUNT BACK YOU CAN CONTACT THE USERS THAT LEFT MURDEROUSKIRK NEG TRUST TO CONFIRM YOU HAVE GOT YOUR ACCOUNT BACK AND CAN THEY PLEASE REMOVE THEIR NEG TRUST THEY LEFT KIRK.

I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK TO YOU, PLEASE WAIT.

ONCE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE ACCOUNT PLEASE POST HERE AS WELL AS YOUR DEV THREAD CONFIRMING THE ACCOUNT HAS BEEN RETURNED TO YOU SO THAT THE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN YOUR SWINGCOIN WILL KNOW.

Thanks
Altcoin4life
22  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 11:23:00 PM
You'll forgive us if we don't pity you for stressing out over something so inconsequential as a message board account. Your arrogance is not a good trait in this scenario, someone else has lost money because of your incompetence and you want to walk away for free. This is your fault at the end of the day, at the least you did not use a secure password on your account and at the worst you have stolen a loan.

There are two options that I can see: You pay altcoin half of what he lost to have the account returned or have the account returned for free, but receive a tsunami of negative rep making it useless.

Insults aside, the fact that you see a compromised developer account with download links and such being pushed to users of this forum as inconsequential says a lot about you. I don't care about the account this is not why I'm stressed. I'm stressed because I want to be sure the developer account doesn't start passing out infected links in the future.

SwingDev

I can only take you at your word your account was hacked.  If it transpires later on you loaned / sold / gave away / borrowed to another / left your account open at a cyber cafe and walked away / took a dive / or some other thing that wasn't having your account hacked, I won't be very impressed with you.

I wouldn't be very impressed either but I didn't do those things. Somone managed to get my password or recover my account through other means. That's what happened.



Altcoin4Life, I have no power over other people's rep reports. I probably wont be able to get them to remove the rep on either of our accounts.

I will update my rep to positive on your account, I will give you the little BTC I have, and if I manage to get more BTC I will try to send more your way. I would have like to send half immediately upon return but unfortunately I don't have that much BTC atm.

To be frank at this point I'd be just as happy with you helping me link the old thread to a new one and destroying access to the account. My only concern in this matter is the security risk to my holders. If it was "something so inconsequential as a message board account" as fortify over here says I would have given up long ago.

Hi Swing

OK if you do find you can transfer some money that would be good in the future some time.

THERE IS NO SECURITY RISK AT ALL OF ME SENDING MALICIOUS LINKS TO ANY OF YOUR COIN HOLDERS ...0% RISK.... IMPOSSIBLE


DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT I HAVE NOT EVEN LOGGED IN TO MURDEROUSKIRK ACCOUNT  SINCE 14 JANUARY??

MURDEROUSKIRK
Last Active:   14 January 2016, 22:45:01



OK please remove your feedback, i will also remove my negative as well.

Once you have done this let me know.


Let me know

Thanks
Altcoin4life

23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♘♕♔SWING♚ ♛♞ ▬▬▬▬●Programmatically Fluctuating Miners Cost!●▬▬▬▬ Now On Bittrex! on: January 29, 2016, 11:05:56 PM
Well, Altcoin4Life flat out refused to return the account without payment.

Looks like I'm not getting it back. I'm going to work on moving this thread to a less toxic forum. If you want to encourage him to return it still you guys are pretty equipped to leave him rep and make posts at this point. Shame his greed is getting in the way this badly.

It should be noted than any positive rep this account gains will negatively impact Altcoin4Life's loan business and pressure him into returning the account.

So.. I might do some REP farming.

I'm going to look for a more secure forum to make our thread in.

Hi Swingdev

OK i have made a decision. I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG.

THEYMOS WILL PROBABLY TAKE A LONG TIME AS IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS NOT RESPONDING.


I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS

1) WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO PAY SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO ME = YOU MAKE A POST ON THIS FORUM - STATING HOW MUCH YOU PAID - WITH PROOF TO MY ADDRESS 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THIS I WILL REPLY CONFIRMING TO EVERYONE I HAVE RECEIVED SOMETHING

2) YOU PM AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING USERS TO REMOVE THEIR NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, THEY SHOULD CONFIRM THEY WILL REMOVE THEIR FEEDBACK.

Blazed
suchmoon
Lutpin
Timelord2067

SwingDev

THEY SHOULD IDEALLY POST ON THIS THREAD CONFIRMING THEY HAVE DELETED FEEDBACK.

ONLY ONCE HAVE THEY DONE THIS I WILL GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT BACK.

I WILL PM YOU AFTER, IF I DO NOT RETURN IT ASAP THEY CAN AGAIN LEAVE ME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR GOING BACK ON MY WORD.


So then Swingdev, let me know if you agree and hopefully this issue will be solved.

Thanks
Altcoin4life
24  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 06:43:17 PM

Hi Swingdev

OK i have made a decision. I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG.

THEYMOS WILL PROBABLY TAKE A LONG TIME AS IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS NOT RESPONDING.


I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS

1) WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO PAY SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO ME = YOU MAKE A POST ON THIS FORUM - STATING HOW MUCH YOU PAID - WITH PROOF TO MY ADDRESS 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THIS I WILL REPLY CONFIRMING TO EVERYONE I HAVE RECEIVED SOMETHING

2) YOU PM AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING USERS TO REMOVE THEIR NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, THEY SHOULD CONFIRM THEY WILL REMOVE THEIR FEEDBACK.

Blazed
suchmoon
Lutpin
SwingDev

THEY SHOULD IDEALLY POST ON THIS THREAD CONFIRMING THEY HAVE DELETED FEEDBACK.

ONLY ONCE HAVE THEY DONE THIS I WILL GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT BACK.

I WILL PM YOU AFTER, IF I DO NOT RETURN IT ASAP THEY CAN AGAIN LEAVE ME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR GOING BACK ON MY WORD.


So then Swingdev, let me know if you agree and hopefully this issue will be solved.

Thanks
Altcoin4life


Will you stop with CAPS AND RED.

Don't drag me into your shit. My trust feedback is factual and there is no reason to remove it. It's not about your dispute with SwingDev, it's about your unsafe lending practices. Using it for bargaining with SwingDev leads me to trust you even less.



Hi suchmoon

Swingdev was refusing to provide a signed message until a few days ago, this was the main reason for this situation.

Now that he has given a signed message proving he is the owner and we have pmed each other, i have decided to give back the account.

I would please request you remove your feedback as i will now definitely give the account back to swingdev as he has given proof now.

Many Thanks
Altcoin4life
25  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 06:23:19 PM
I have changed my rating for neutral for now and hope you guys work something out then. To me, it sounded like you were unwilling to hand the account back without demanding full payment.

Hi Blazed

We are trying to sort this out now.

The issue was that he was refusing to give a signed message until recently, until whywefight persuaded him to give one.


Thanks
Altcoin4life

Also I want to point out that (as explained in the ann) this was due to my misunderstanding and inexperience with using digital signatures to prove account ownership. I thought both were supposed to be blank messages and saw this as a giant security risk.

Whywefight helped me realize my misunderstanding and I promptly provided a signature on the 27th. Also posted in the ANN.

Now if you'll excuse me for a few hours I'm going to bed stressed and irritated about this for the 12th (13th?) day in a row.

Hi Swingdev

OK i have made a decision. I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FAR TOO LONG.

THEYMOS WILL PROBABLY TAKE A LONG TIME AS IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS NOT RESPONDING.


I WILL GIVE THE ACCOUNT BACK ON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS

1) WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO PAY SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO ME = YOU MAKE A POST ON THIS FORUM - STATING HOW MUCH YOU PAID - WITH PROOF TO MY ADDRESS 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THIS I WILL REPLY CONFIRMING TO EVERYONE I HAVE RECEIVED SOMETHING

2) YOU PM AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING USERS TO REMOVE THEIR NEUTRAL AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, THEY SHOULD CONFIRM THEY WILL REMOVE THEIR FEEDBACK.

Blazed
suchmoon
Lutpin
SwingDev

THEY SHOULD IDEALLY POST ON THIS THREAD CONFIRMING THEY HAVE DELETED FEEDBACK.

ONLY ONCE HAVE THEY DONE THIS I WILL GIVE YOUR ACCOUNT BACK.

I WILL PM YOU AFTER, IF I DO NOT RETURN IT ASAP THEY CAN AGAIN LEAVE ME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR GOING BACK ON MY WORD.


So then Swingdev, let me know if you agree and hopefully this issue will be solved.

Thanks
Altcoin4life


26  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Advice about sweeping or importing private key for specific btc address - How? on: January 29, 2016, 08:47:32 AM
Hi thanks for your reply

So just to be clear the seller can always have access to the address? So a buyer should not use it to store coins and the seller can maybe take these coins?

Yes. You can create a signed message with the old address stating that you bought the account and want a new address to be associated with the account. Post that signed message in the stake thread with the bought account to let someone else quote it. This essentially transfers ownership to a new address over time. Newly staked addresses do not matter much, but they matter more the older they get without incident.

So the best thing to do would be to create a new electrum wallet, but use the restore option........ then put the private key instead of the seed in restore function?

Also electrum 2.5.4 does not have an import button.... only a sweep button? how can you import the private key then?

You just explained it above. Restore, use the private key (not(!) the address) as the seed. It will create a new wallet file only for this key and address.

Hope someone can explain....

Thanks



Edit links:

Stake thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0
Learn to sign a message with electrum -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

ok thanks
27  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Advice about sweeping or importing private key for specific btc address - How? on: January 29, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
Hi thanks for your reply

So just to be clear the seller can always have access to the address? So a buyer should not use it to store coins and the seller can maybe take these coins?


So the best thing to do would be to create a new electrum wallet, but use the restore option........ then put the private key instead of the seed in restore function?

Also electrum 2.5.4 does not have an import button.... only a sweep button? how can you import the private key then?

Hope someone can explain....

Thanks

28  Bitcoin / Electrum / Advice about sweeping or importing private key for specific btc address - How? on: January 29, 2016, 07:14:45 AM
Hi everyone

I just wanted to ask about importing private keys to become new owner of specific btc address.


Let me explain using an example:



Person 1 is buying a btctalk account from person 2 which includes a private key of specific btc address ass part of sale.


Person 2 has digitally signed address 76528y79u7yg8hy87t8y2h9uj and staked and posted 1 year ago.


As part of the sale Person 1 is also buying the private key of address 76528y79u7yg8hy87t8y2h9uj that was staked.


How can Person 1 ensure he becomes the new owner of this btc address? How can they import this btc address in their own electrum client/wallet, so that person 2 has permanently transferred the address over and can not recover it any way including with seed or with a saved backup of their electrum wallet that includes address 76528y79u7yg8hy87t8y2h9uj ?


What are the steps for person 1 to take... do they sweep and put in private key.... or make a brand new wallet with no seed ......



I am not sure how this can be done....

Hope someone can advise the steps involved

Thanks
29  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM
So the conclusion is that both of you failed to compromise. That is sad indeed; it means you both lost fully where you had a change to both reduce your losses.

I suggest locking the relevant topics as this issue seems over.

I offered to work towards helping him cover his loss as I was able to. I actually intented to ask him for a public addy where I could slowly try to cover his loss. I was hoping to try to cover it in full if I was able. Even my community was looking to help in this. I am unable to pay him up front and refusing to return the account unless I do is just greedy.

My offer is still open for now which i feel is generous and fair at this point. Please do not close this thread. A4l still has a chance to change his mind. If he does not within a reasonable amount of time I would like a place to publicly close and end my offer. Admins can lock the other threads If they want.

I'm not looking to have him hang my offer over my head a year from now.

At this point I've accepted the loss and plan to work on building the rep of this account since it seems I won't be able to correct murderouskirk.
Hi

So if Swingdev is reading this, i would ask that you please answer my questions here.

1) Why the delay in reporting this hack? Why not open a scam accusation straight after?

2) When did you realise it was hacked? How do you think they hacked the account? What security where you using? was it phishing/malware/keylogger?

3) Please explain if i give the account back... you say there may be some sort of payment after ? Within what time frame? How much? do you mean if your swing coin increases in price you will give some of this profit to me?

4) How do you respond to abitnut's point that there is no proof that it was hacked? Is it true that you Swingdev and marcos the hacker could be the same person?

Anyway i hope we can FINALLY SORT THIS OUT as it has been dragging on TOO LONG.

Please post a reply on this thread, with your answers

Thanks
Altcoin4life

30  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 05:16:36 AM
I have changed my rating for neutral for now and hope you guys work something out then. To me, it sounded like you were unwilling to hand the account back without demanding full payment.

Hi Blazed

We are trying to sort this out now.

The issue was that he was refusing to give a signed message until recently, until whywefight persuaded him to give one.


Thanks
Altcoin4life
31  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 03:51:16 AM
Hi everyone

YES I AGREE MY DUE DILIGENCE WAS NOT UP TO STANDARD


But does Swingdev have no part to play in this? He did not make a scam accusation until 1 week after? Can Swingdev explain the delay?

Also how was it hacked in the first place? Bad password? Malware downloaded?
I really would like to know how the account got compromised in the first place.

Also i did not say i will NEVER give the account back, i wanted to know about these details first.

Finally can swingdev explain what he means that he will pay something back after i hand over the account?


Let me know swingdev

Thanks
Altcoin4life

32  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 29, 2016, 03:26:44 AM
So the conclusion is that both of you failed to compromise. That is sad indeed; it means you both lost fully where you had a change to both reduce your losses.

I suggest locking the relevant topics as this issue seems over.

I offered to work towards helping him cover his loss as I was able to. I actually intented to ask him for a public addy where I could slowly try to cover his loss. I was hoping to try to cover it in full if I was able. Even my community was looking to help in this. I am unable to pay him up front and refusing to return the account unless I do is just greedy.

My offer is still open for now which i feel is generous and fair at this point. Please do not close this thread. A4l still has a chance to change his mind. If he does not within a reasonable amount of time I would like a place to publicly close and end my offer. Admins can lock the other threads If they want.

I'm not looking to have him hang my offer over my head a year from now.

At this point I've accepted the loss and plan to work on building the rep of this account since it seems I won't be able to correct murderouskirk.

Hi Swingdev

You still have not made it clear what you mean in terms of recovering some of the loss.

IF I DID HAND OVER THE ACCOUNT NOW... how would this loss be recovered?

How much would you actually pay?

How long would it take to pay this figure?

My payment address is 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop if you need it in the future.

You need to explain a bit more about this potential payment after i give the account.... please give details.

Let me know on this thread.

Also have you had any emails from theymos yet?

Thanks
Altcoin4life
33  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: My Swing Developer / Hero account stolen - sold to Altcoin4Life in scam loan on: January 28, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
Well i hope you guys settle this issue by coming up with some terms or something via pm instead of having a ton of threads open here. Theymos will never recover it, so your only option is to speak with Altcoin4Life

I'd prefer to keep things public at this point.

I've made this thread to consolidate his 3 into 1 place and have a clean post to include as reference in rep reports.

If Altcoin4Life is willing to continue discussions he can post here. If not so be it.

Being careless on your end shouldn't cause damages to others. He's only trying to recover what he had lost.

I'd also like to point out that being careless on his end doesn't transfer his lost btc to my debt. I'm only trying to recover what I've lost.

Like I said, I intend to tip him as I can if the account is recovered by his kindness. I do not intend to buy it from him in order to have it returned. A: I can't afford it B: I feel this is not right. I believe this is fair and if he refuses and wants to keep my account that's his choice.

Theymos will never recover it

Side note. It's a shame how little faith everyone has in the account recovery of this forum. I've heard this over and over even before my account got stolen. I'd love to see Theymos start proving everyone wrong. To be frank I find it a bit ridiculous that tracking down the new account holder and paying him off is the most likely method of account recovery on a respectable money forum. Undecided

Hi Swing

Thanks for your comment, let me know if theymos does contact you and give you your account back.

I WILL BE MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS FROM NOW ON.

Cheers
Altcoin4life
34  Economy / Lending / Re: +++ ALTCOIN4LIFE LOANS - ZERO/LOW INTEREST NO COLLATERAL FOR TRUSTED USERS +++ on: January 28, 2016, 08:26:10 PM
Name sharvin
Loan amount: .5 btc
intrest: 20%
Date to repay: 2 months
Collateral: my domain valued at 400 usd it is mercurygaming.com and account if needed
reason: bills
Bitcoin address: 18gKHt93zEy63EGkcegZzqtS4r5Pq5C5oH

​Hi

​Thanks for your request for your loan that you gave via PM or through my lending thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1295650.0;all

​I am ​SORRY but i i will ​NOT be be able to provide you a loan as you ​DO NOT MEET my requirements.

I recommend you ask another lender on the forum for your loan.

Thanks
 
​--------------------------------------------------------
​Altcoin4life
​​​Contact between 2-10 pm UK time only!
​----------------------------------------------------​--​--
35  Economy / Lending / Re: +++ ALTCOIN4LIFE LOANS - ZERO/LOW INTEREST NO COLLATERAL FOR TRUSTED USERS +++ on: January 28, 2016, 05:54:19 PM
Hello,

This will be my last post in this thread. If you want to follow the story of MurderousKirk and Altcoin4Life you can do so here.

I do not believe Altcoin4Life had any malicious intent and this event should not affect his reputation for giving credible loans.

I do think he has already learned to be more cautious with what accounts he accepts as collateral. He will probably be much more strict about enforcing proper digital signatures in the future.

I apologize for cluttering this thread with the resulting drama. This was the result of significant frustration / stress and was unprofessional of me.

Have a nice day.

Hi Swing

Thanks for your comment, let me know if theymos does contact you and give you your account back.

I WILL BE MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS FROM NOW ON.

Cheers
Altcoin4life
36  Economy / Lending / Re: +++ ALTCOIN4LIFE LOANS - ZERO/LOW INTEREST NO COLLATERAL FOR TRUSTED USERS +++ on: January 27, 2016, 05:11:30 PM
Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your reply

I will let you know as i am thinking how i should proceed.

Cheers
Altcoin4life
37  Economy / Lending / Re: Altcoin4life - HACKED ACCOUNT - Collateral 4 Murderouskirk - Swingdev - ADVICE? on: January 27, 2016, 05:11:14 PM
Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your reply

I will let you know as i am thinking how i should proceed.

Cheers
Altcoin4life
38  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Altcoin4life - HACKED ACCOUNT - Collateral 4 Murderouskirk - Swingdev - ADVICE?? on: January 27, 2016, 05:11:00 PM
Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your reply

I will let you know as i am thinking how i should proceed.

Cheers
Altcoin4life
39  Other / Meta / Re: Altcoin4life - HACKED ACCOUNT - Collateral 4 Murderouskirk - Swingdev - ADVICE?? on: January 27, 2016, 05:10:39 PM
Hi Swingdev

Thanks for your reply

I will let you know as i am thinking how i should proceed.

Cheers
Altcoin4life
40  Economy / Lending / Re: +++ ALTCOIN4LIFE LOANS - ZERO/LOW INTEREST NO COLLATERAL FOR TRUSTED USERS +++ on: January 26, 2016, 11:52:14 PM
Hi everyone just to let you know  that swingdev has still not given a signed message from an old staked address.

But he has sent me 0.0001 BTC to my normal repayment address 1HbPkpQiKgq48mCpL5BTxyVsHf4fjM8uop - Proof is below:

https://blockchain.info/tx/ccae00b48dd1d0a7f80897fc063b469f16ee9c45f09ddb6450a0fe153b6dae74


If he has now proven??? that he owns the old staked address 1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71  that was posted here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164721.msg12788990#msg12788990

WHY CAN HE NOT JUST SIGN A MESSAGE FROM THIS ADDRESS? DOES THIS PROVE HE OWNS THE ADDRESS AS HE HAS MADE A PAYMENT FROM IT?

SWINGDEV, PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES NOW.... WHERE IS THE SIGNED MESSAGE ?

Thanks
Altcoin4life
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