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Bitcoin is alive and well. Short term price swings mean little. Adoption and development is all that matters and it continues
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I will be formalizing the proposal for the fixing of blockreward at year end of year 10 of Monero emission; a couple of charts are below:  A is the current projection. B is the fixed subsidy projection. As you can see from the images, there is only slight inflation at this time. Final block subsidy: 0.117061151915 Inflation starting at year 11: 0.335774683775% Inflation starting at year 20: 0.325925311615% import math
M = math.pow(2, 64) - 1
total_supply = 0
YEARS = 20
f = open('monero_calculator.txt', 'w')
f.write('Year\tCoin supply\tInflation\n')
# Unlimited subsidy decreases (ByteCoin code)
for i in range (1,YEARS+1):
beginning_supply = total_supply
for j in range (1,525601): # 525600 blocks/year
block_subsidy = (M - total_supply) / math.pow(2, 20) # Atomic
total_supply += block_subsidy
inflation = 0
if beginning_supply == 0:
pass # Infinite for year 1
else:
inflation = total_supply / beginning_supply
total_supply_in_monero = total_supply / math.pow(10, 12) # Moneros
inflation_in_percent = (inflation * 100) - 100
f.write(str(i) + '\t' + str(total_supply_in_monero) + '\t' + str(inflation_in_percent) + '\n')
f.write('\n')
total_supply = 0
last_block_subsidy = 0 # Usde to get the block_subsidy for year end of year 10
# Subsidy fixing after 10 years
for i in range (1,YEARS+1):
beginning_supply = total_supply
for j in range (1,525601): # 525600 blocks/year
if (i <= 10):
block_subsidy = (M - total_supply) / math.pow(2, 20) # Atomic
last_block_subsidy = block_subsidy
else:
block_subsidy = last_block_subsidy
total_supply += block_subsidy
inflation = 0
if beginning_supply == 0:
pass # Infinite for year 1
else:
inflation = total_supply / beginning_supply
total_supply_in_monero = total_supply / math.pow(10, 12) # Moneros
inflation_in_percent = (inflation * 100) - 100
f.write(str(i) + '\t' + str(total_supply_in_monero) + '\t' + str(inflation_in_percent) + '\n')
f.write('\n')
f.write("Final block subsidy at year 10 end: " + str(last_block_subsidy / math.pow(10, 12)))
f.close() Thank you for the charts! Inflation has been pretty high so far but seems to be slowing down now... |
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Bitcoin is not here to create monopolies, it is here to destroy them. And it brought a friend... Because of the automatic availability of privacy with the opt-in alternative of transparency, everything true about BTC is twice as true for XMR. IE, defection previously impossible or too risky using BTC is now enabled via XMR's radical opacity.  Very interesting analysis. I don't necessarily think the events above will happen soon, but when they do they could happen quickly. I see many hero members make positive and negative comments about Monero. Are they any bitcoin core developers that have a public position on its cryptography one way or the other? Yes, Monero is considered by many legendary/hero members to be the next step in crypto. No other coin even comes close. Peter Todd says XMR's crypto is legitimate: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/622022840330682368gmax has an XMR address on his profile (which can expect a nice Halving Day present from me). Thank you for the Peter Todd and Greg Maxwell citations! Are there any more core developers with a position either positive or negative on Monero? |
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Not going to happen. Really.
$100 Is more likely than $1000 in my opinion.
The future of money isn't bitcoin and the future of bitcoin isn't money.
What do you see as the future of money then? Describe the world 50 years from now and what money will look like |
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Am I right or talking out my ass?
My answer is the later. However if it does hit $100 I agree many on this forum are more likely to buy than panic sell |
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a store-of-value that can't offer anything for the micropayments of the fledgling Knowledge Age, is going no where in terms of network effects.
Bitcoin is going to monopolize network effects in the NWO paradigm that most of the masses will fall into. If you are going to create an alternative, then you must identify the unique network effects of the alternative market.
Micropayments are only feasible given a prunable mini-blockchain like XCN's, or perhaps vaporware such as the Lightening Network. Bitcoin is not here to create monopolies, it is here to destroy them. And it brought a friend... Bitcoin is the good cop; Monero is the bad one. One hand washes the other, like salt and pepper: Monero’s Allure
Furthermore, potential attackers are at a disadvantage for another reason. Monero tends to oppose organizations rather than people. Even someone who stands to lose from Monero by not reacting to it, such as a banker or government agent, stands to gain a great deal by buying now. Only the very wealthiest people might reasonably expect to be worse off attempting to buy up as much as possible now than if it were gone. (This could happen if their attempt to buy caused the price to rise too fast relative to their ability to acquire additional Moneros, to the point that they ultimately had less influence over the future Monero economy than they have over the economy of today.) Thus, the agency problem with Monero affects Monero competitors as well as Monero holders.
Nearly any government agent who begins to see Monero as a potential threat must also simultaneously see it as an opportunity. He, too, can invest in Monero. And why shouldn’t he? Monero may be a threat to his livelihood, but it may well be making him an offer he can’t refuse. How can an organization that stands to lose by the adoption of Monero provide its members with a better opportunity for staying loyal than Monero provides for defection?
Even those who might resist the temptation to defect would have to think about the defection of his fellows. How quickly is adoption happening? Is there time to mount an attack before Monero becomes too powerful? How easily could the resources for such an attack be amassed, given both the ignorance and treachery of the other agents. If such an attack would be unlikely to succeed, then buying now would be the only intelligent action. Regardless of whether he liked Monero, it would be futile to continue pursuing a doomed cause.
Potential Monero attackers are in a Prisoner’s Dilemma. In the same way that the people cannot easily rebel against the king owing to a lack of coordination on their part, governments cannot rebel against Monero for the same reason. The government puts the people in a Prisoner’s Dilemma against one another, and Monero does the same to government agents.
Monero is like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Monero attracts inside men to act as covert saboteurs. There have long been predictions from both Moneroers and naysayers of impending government attacks, but I think there is a possibility that Monero could win without suffering much resistance. Moreover, although I said above only that any legal Monero attack could be perverted, the considerations discussed in this section tend to make such diffusion very likely.
Monero defends itself by being obscure, but once it has attracted someone’s attention, its best interest is for that person to understand the logic presented here. For then he will also understand that his best course is to deny Monero’s threat to his superiors and quietly to become its willing slave. Because of the automatic availability of privacy with the opt-in alternative of transparency, everything true about BTC is twice as true for XMR. IE, defection previously impossible or too risky using BTC is now enabled via XMR's radical opacity. Very interesting analysis. I don't necessarily think the events above will happen soon, but when they do they could happen quickly. I see many hero members make positive and negative comments about Monero. Are they any bitcoin core developers that have a public position on its cryptography one way or the other? Compared to the biased XMR and DASH threads this seemed like a good place to come for an unbiased opinion. I am not a cryptographer so seek opinions from those better informed than myself |
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DSH update is complete on Poloniex
has anyone heard from them about when if they will change from xmr/dsh to btc/dsh? |
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NEW COINS ADDED: *please wait 24hours for the blockchain to sync
primecoin * blackcoin * vertcoin * dash * namecoin * dogecoindark
I will check out this exchange as soon as you add cryptonote coins I saw that there are people in the monero thread who were willing to help you. |
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Bump for BBR.  Boolberry is a good cryptonote coin, with or without Supernet. It had a fair launch and implements some original ideas not used in other cryptonote coins (its not just a clone). Monero clearly has more developers working on their project and more supporting services. However with a market cap less than 1/40th of XMR an official GUI and some original features (related to database size and mixin levels), I like the risk/reward ratio for BBR. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/boolberry/http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/Good choice, makes sense for anyone holding XMR to invest in a bucket load of BBR (given it's clearly under-valued & is the most innovative Cryptonote coin). And vice versa, anyone invested in BBR should hedge with a few XMR also.  Hedging sounds smart to me. Monero community may be far ahead but there are risks (see recent posts about trademark battle with moneero) I wish cryptozoidberg would say "hello folk" and then tell us something new |
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it's guaranteed to go places.
Nothing in life is guaranteed except perhaps more random NEM spamming across this forum including in the threads of other unrelated projects |
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I think it is far too early to ask for donations from strangers on bitcointalk Your objectives seem overly broad. Perhaps you should narrow your focus Aim:Create a libertarian communist cryptocurrency and anarcho-syndicalist counter-economy. How it works:Antok is an open-source platform for anybody to setup local assemblies that can be joined by members and collectives. Serving as an organisational and resource management utility governed through direct-democratic voting procedures and constantly accountable, bottom up hierarchy structures. Participating collectives operate in a non-profit or anarcho-syndicalist manner. Contributing any profits to local assemblies for community control and allocation decisions. Each member is assigned a token granting equal access to goods and services and facilitating trades. Based on Bitcoin's blockchain technology and therefore categorised as a cryptocurrency but I'd like to re-invent genre as a socialist "Crypto-Token". Requirements:- Member and collective registrars
- Property, goods and services registrars
- Direct-democratic and bottom up hierarchy structures and voting platforms
- Resource management and automated distribution allocation tools
- Token system that ensures equal access to essential goods and services and facilitates trades using public ledger
- Transparent anarcho-syndicalist processes and community control of finances
- De-centralised and autonomous management mechanisms through local assemblies
Project status:This is currently a solo project in planning stage. Eagerly welcoming all contributions from experienced developers and any others with useful skill-sets and ideas. Please email me at antok@tuta.io and join the GitHub project page( https://github.com/AntokProject/Antok). I have setup a discussion forum ( https://antok.co/index.php) and will post social network and blog links below and update them with news and promotional content. Also laid some barebone functional requirements - http://antok.co/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3&sid=27d9337ab04dd1cf51e87451271fdddcDonations:Currently running this psuedo-anonymously and it's is my first open-source programming project, so a big learning curve. Any donations will be used to fund running costs ( http://antok.co/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20) and outlined project objectives ( http://antok.co/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24&p=56#p56). Transaction histories will be publicly documented. Should this project take off and other trusted developers come on board full-time, I will de-centralise control of funds using Bitcoin's multi-signature accounts feature. Who's public transparency and autonomy from banks provides a viable mass-scale option for anarcho-syndicalism. The final goal of Antok however is to make all currencies obsolete. BTC address:39r4bNRAMw8wm68T52zLNRxgBKq4pfDAdG Convert other cryptos here: https:///shapeshift.io More info: https://bitcoin.orgIf you require anonymity or government censorship circumvention then use live Linux operating system distribution Tails - https://tails.boum.org/TOR: http://lu56sbidj5drwdux.onionAnarchist Communism Wiki"Anarchist communism[1] (also known as anarcho-communism, free communism, libertarian communism,[2][3][4][5][6] and communist anarchism[7][8]) is a theory of anarchism which advocates the abolition of the state, capitalism, wages and private property (while retaining respect for personal property),[9] and in favor of common ownership of the means of production,[10][11] direct democracy, and a horizontal network of voluntary associations and workers' councils with production and consumption based on the guiding principle: "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need".[12][13]" Heavily influenced by the CNT (Confederacion Nacional del Trabajo) and Anarchist reign during the Spanish civil-war. Solidarity with all left-wing anarchist and communist comrades fighting fascism and imperialism! Links:Project info - https://antok.coForum - https://antok.co/index.phpBlog (UPDATED!) - https://antok.co/blogFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/antokprojectTwitter - https://twitter.com/AntokProjectGoogle+ - https://plus.google.com/104056507392573812486/aboutRSS - https://antok.co/feed.php?mode=topicsYoutube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqCAUg6TUuZmPwDIGfanSsQTOR - http://lu56sbidj5drwdux.onion |
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lol sorry for the old bump. But just want to point out. BitcoinExpress has never worked for or been affiliated with cryptsy. And he certainly never got access to that database.
I dont even have access to the encryption used to store verification docs
Where did that even come from? He has a picture of a passport. Must be from cryptsy.
That document would not be accepted for verification. You need to show you holding it up to the camera with a cryptsy timestamp
Nice necro XMR thread bump. How about a bump of your effort to add Monero to Cryptsy and many months of empty promises? |
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Total time logged in: 36 days, 1 hours and 0 minutes.
Maybe you should spend more time doing your job as a wallet manager! Cryptsy has more wallets down for maintenance than any other exchange that I am aware of. How long have you been trying to add Monero? A year? lol |
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This really should be addressed ASAP. |
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Hello everybody! Here is the draft of emission curve for "Lui" project:  Script with formulas: http://jsfiddle.net/dubqvwje/In first 3.5 year will be emitted significant part of money, and then, after this period of 3.5 year emission will be about 0%-2% of whole money per year. First 4 months will be only PoW blocks(1 block per 4 minutes), and then started PoS bocks (at height > 60000), PoS blocks have also target time 1 block per 4 minutes, so summary will be 1 block in 2 minutes(avrg). 100 000 000 coins reserved for project support ("premine"). Public betta is coming soon! Zoidberg&Co I think I speak for most people when I say this: 1. Your early work with BBR has proven you to be a good developer and your ideas for "Lui" sound interesting! 2. The premine is way too large. With that emission schedule there is no long term incentive to keep working and innovating for years (which would be the only way to justify that premine as a percentage of the early emission schedule). You could just do great work early, sell your coins for a good price and then abandon the project. You started out well with Boolberry but have not done any work for many months (at least according to Github). Perhaps if you become active with Boolberry again people would trust you more with this project. Trust is needed for long term support when you are asking for such a large premine Here is a post you made on Jan 31: "Happy New Year friends! Sorry for long delay with new version, we(me, Bitcrea, Scruffy) still finalizing and fixing bugs in new build. Hope it will come in next week. I want to wish a luck to evey person related with crypto, i hope we are making this world better! Zoidberg" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg9995863#msg9995863We are still waiting. Please come back to the Boolberry thread. I think you will find that most Boolberry supporters will also support this project if you continue to innovate with Boolberry as well. Right now many people feel abandoned |
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I've got a stuck withdrawal on crypsy since may the 29th, are we back to square 1 with wallet issues?
Did they give you a tx ID that you cannot see on the blockchain with any block explorer? exactly that. wrote 3 email to support, still stuck Im also waiting for my withdrawal from cryptsy.. Same problem. I hope that they get it sorted out soon Maybe send a PM to Mullick? They do not seem very tech savvy at Cryptsy but I think they eventually respond to everyone. I am guessing all the errors on the exchange platform overwhelm customer service so it takes a while for tickets to get forwarded to the people who actually are capable of fixing things. |
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Has anyone verified the BBR GUI is free from virus?
Firefox is warning me when I download it. Is there an easy way I can create a cold wallet address to send to without downloading the GUI at all?
Thanks
The file is fine. Firefox doesn't like the .exe file. I'm assuming you're using Windows. If so there are two downloads on the Boolberry downloads page. One is "Full Installer" and the other is "Full Package". The "Full Installer" is an .exe file and that is what's causing Firefox to give you a warning. The "Full Package" is a zip file. I personally don't like using installers if I don't have to so I use the "Full Package" and unzip to a directory of my choosing and run the qt-boolb.exe from there. Maybe use the "Full Package" .zip download and then do a mandatory check of the .exe at virustotal.com before launching. Then just wait for it to download the blockchain which will take some time. You can also use the command line simplewallet which is included in the "Full Package" .zip download. http://boolberry.com/howto.html#walletthank you. If all I want to do is create an address to send BBR to cold storage can I do that with simplewallet even before the blockchain synch is complete? My first thought was to use simple wallet but the guide here said that my password would be created in my command history and I was not sure how to solve that: http://boolberry.com/howto.html#wallet"To generate a new wallet, use this command: simplewallet --generate-new-wallet="path\to\file\want_to_be_reach.bin" You will then be prompted for a password. There is an option to enter the password on the command line, but then the password will be saved in your command history which can be read by others." |
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Can you post an easy ubuntu guide or a link to one?
Specifically setting up ubuntu from start to finish on a flash drive and using it to create a cold storage address with simplewallet.
Thanks!
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Has anyone verified the BBR GUI is free from virus?
Firefox is warning me when I download it. Is there an easy way I can create a cold wallet address to send to without downloading the GUI at all?
Thanks
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Sorry for posting in this thread but XMR holders are smart! I love XMR
However I also have some BBR I want to withdraw from Poloniex. They do not offer a web wallet and I am not sure how long it would take me to set up a paper wallet to withdraw to directly without downloading the GUI first to create one. Can anyone tell me if the official BBR GUI is safe from malware etc?
My malware software cant find a problem but Firefox warns me when I download it. Thanks for any advice!
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