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2081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: No Alternatives to Directbet? on: March 05, 2018, 10:39:06 AM
The closest thing to Directbet is clearly NitrogenSports

Um...Sorry but I don't really think so.
They offer too little live-betting comparing to Directbet,
although Nitrogensports is good (it will be much better if the withdrawn time can be faster), and I still enjoy playing with them.

So if you do not think nitrogensport is yhe closest one then which site that offer good thing for sportbetting game again? There are few of sportbetting site but I think there is no one that can beat nitrogensport for now, although they do not have any issue yet but it seems everyone is complaining the same thing and that is about thwir withdrawal and not enough promotions to make people keep on staying there
2082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which casino site is the best on: March 05, 2018, 05:06:29 AM
bitsler and primedice is on the Curacao licensing scam operators list!

Advantage: You can sue them if you have an issue

Disadvantage: 99,9% of the victims are not willing to spend anything to enforce their claim

Alternative: Register your accounts with any Crypto gambling sites with cost free consumer protection service

There you will also find Crypto Games
Bitsler and primedice is on this list of scam operators?
This is the first I have heard of this.

And crypto-games as well? Embarrassed
I am pretty sure you will have alot of flack from some of those members who are promoting them in their signatures who are of high ranking here.

You should not believe what you see on his posts, so many people already stay out from him because what about his post is only try to earn some money by using someone else false, this is little tricky job that he do here. So just do not believe on what he wrote



Pleasei need to know which of these 4 casino betting sites is the best and the reason why?

freebitco.in
bitsler.com
primedice.com
crypto-games.net

thanks.

out of the latter three,(since as it has been pointed above freebitcoin cannot count as a casino
it does have dice game,but the atrocious HE of 5% makes it a bad place to gamble,but it is very good as a free faucet for beginners)

Actually freebitco.in as many people said, it can't be used as gambling casino because of their house edge but there are many of them winning quite good amount here. I assume that  you can play here but not for longer time due to high house edge. And yet they even give some lottery which has very high payout
2083  Economy / Gambling / Re: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! on: March 05, 2018, 12:22:03 AM
Hey guys
Is it possible to set up bot to place random bets?
Example H L H H L H L L L etc?

I believe all of these gambing things results is always random but more people just believe that if they use bot it will predictable because it will minimize their loss and boost the result. This is what usualy happened but if you said to set up a random bot, first, maybe it is very easy job for coder to make this random bot, second, why do you want to make it random by using bot if you can do it manually?
2084  Economy / Gambling / Re: A New Bitcoin Game ( Blitzmoon.com ) on: March 04, 2018, 11:19:52 PM
I just check your site, and I think it is quite good but for me it is just to confuse to play with this extra ratio. First we need to choose ratio then pick numbers and with extra ratio there is extra numbers too. I think this game is just too complicated. I still prefer dice games or may be even minesweeper game since there is only 3 choices per tier to choose. Your games have too many options to be chosen so the chance to have profit is less. This is what I think of your site, I am sorry no offense here
2085  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitKong - Fun & Addictive, provably fair bitcoin game. on: March 04, 2018, 03:25:24 PM
yeah i have found exactly how they scam people


they just set the client seed to whatever they want if you change it they change it back to what the server generates so theres a losing bet


it will verfiy because they control all parts its like a scam 99dice pulled a while back it only vefies because theres no real player imput and the server genrates whatever results they want

Server do not generates client seed. Client seed generated client side and unknown for server until you click “Play” button.

If you want to change it manually you can choose only from allowed values, 0,1 and 2 for Easy/Hard tickets and 0 or 1 for Medium tickets. Even if by your conspiracy theory we are changing client seed, we still will need to guess which cell you will choose to make you lose.

BTW with our upcoming version, we have new verification scheme where you can easily play/verify multiple games with same server/client seed.
Is there any eta for bitkong version 2 launch? do you have any new game for us to play in the new version? i hope you guys have added more ways to sign up/login, not everyone is fond of facebook login. Roll Eyes

Yeah, I am waiting for their newer version but until now they do not even speak up about the changes that they are going to do. At least they should tell us something good that they are having later. I do not think there is really needed for them to open new ways to login, on site and facebook login will already be good enough. And with facebook many of them can easily take part in case there is event
2086  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: March 04, 2018, 01:42:20 PM
I feel cheated by this site, of all that I have played I had never happened to lose 16 moves in a row playing 45% of luck the game of dice, and also 9 times in a row to 49%, can someone clarify how it is possible this? It is assumed that playing 45% of luck of 100 plays would have 45 won and 55 losses, however I have had 67 losses and 33 won.

I feel robbed and cheated by fortunejack

Cheated or not is depends on your luck as well, 45% is pretty normal odds and you are complaining on 16 losing streak and how about with 2x odds I suffer more than 20 losing streak? How do you feel about that? And I believe they have verifier which you can verify your own bet to check whether they cheated you or not



I find withdrawals wagering requirements ridiculous to be honest,but each site has its own rules,

If you don't read rules before depositing money then it is your fault.

It is similar to Bitler bans accounts when they profited from a faucet because that is their rules.

I agree with you, people always just check the "I agree" box and then get mad when they break or don't understand the rules..

But bitsler banning accounts that profited from faucets, really? Did not know that Cheesy
Well, it's in their ToS. If someone never deposit and play only from faucet they can ban player.
If I recall someone was abusing their faucet with large number of multi accounts gaining positive edge against them.

I believe you're talking about bitselr issue. If someone is always playing with free money means it is not players mistake but it is admin mistake because he doesn't know how to control his faucet claim system. They should limit all faucet users claims and once they allow means then you shouldn't ban accounts. They shouldn't allow faucet claims once a user reaches certain free claims until they deposit money.

Nope, you are wrong, bitsler put their faucet normally of course for betting purpose but to abuse it everyday is not really good way to bet and that is why they limit on how much they should claim everyday. In the mean time if in some period of time they do not make any deposit and keep on abuse it then their account will be banned

I believe FJ have this regulations too right? I do not think any site want their site to be abused on players that do not even put any deposit once to start gambling.

I'm not talking about how much they limit for each player because that is their money and their decision we can't do anything on that part.

But I'm asking after they allow some free claims then why are they banning accounts if players make some profit from that free amount? This is not a good way to control abusers instead they shouldn't allow players to claim free money after certain free claims.

Like I always said, there is nothing wrong for allowing the faucet and it is claimable by everyone but you need at least give something back by depositing money back to their site to play. If you only want to yake some free money then do not abuse their faucet, you can get it from free giveaway. This is just take and give conditions, they do not ask you to deposit so many but at least try to make some small deposit before you can keep on abusing their faucet
2087  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁3 NEW COINS★★★22nd BILLION BETS PROMO★★★🎁 on: March 04, 2018, 09:15:30 AM
I do not think bitsler team can do this thing, the purpose of faucet is for people to test the site and I believe there is tons of players still want to join bitsler community and played so if they do not try the site at first, how are you going to let them come into the house and play? I also see that the one that abuse is mostly have multiple accounts which is probably have the same ip. I would suggest to make some limit on their ip and their account to claim the faucet, if this not to be done, it will just like that forever

For every casinò is always been this way:

(1) Faucet serves to build addiction to gambling too, it gives the newcomer the taste of the hope of a winning. Later on the newcomer will think "what if I start with a bigger balance? Maybe my odds to win will be higher" we can imagine how this process will potentially turn into a profit for the casinò.

(2) On the other hand the user can be satisfied with the small initial balance given by the faucet, his odds to win are very small and he will try hard to keep the addiction at bay. He can't abuse more than the limits per day of the system and the very small quantity of coins received.

Those are two sides of the same medal. There is a saying "you can't have the wife drunk and the cask full at the same time" meaning even if you wanted only (1) you have to keep (2) in the game. In the same way if you wanted only (2) you have to handle (1) too.

I guess in the end the net profit from (1) minus (2) is positive because I've seen pratically all casinò have this faucet feature turned on.

But do you think that any site will let you keep on abusing their site for nothing? At least you should make a deposit once to start claiming the faucet. It is just feel so ridiculous to have someone getting free money. Gambling is an entertainment so if you do not have enough money then do not start it or you will be regret. This is what I do know about thid addictive entertainment
2088  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▰▰▰ LUCKYGAMES.IO ▰▰▰ ✅ 5 Awesome Games ✅ 49 Cryptocurrencies ✅ Daily Contests on: March 04, 2018, 03:34:05 AM
All I can see is the website being pumped multiple times a day with some newbie accounts who aren't posting anything constructive but shilling by bumping posts.Such behaviour is not encouraged on the forum especially if alt accounts are talking to each other.

@OP,please stop it or I'll be obliged to open a accusation for not obeying bumping rules and using newbie accounts to pump the thread.

What's the problem buddy ? If you don't like, don't read but why we should not appreciate a good bet ?


It does not really affect us(gambler), we only tell you that there is rules in this forum and you should obey it. Bumping is not prohibited but you should follow their rules, and it should be once per 24 hours as I remembered. If you keep on bumping it then your thread will be warned and will be end up badly so please be aware of it
2089  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bit-Exo.com - BTC, LTC, Dash & DOGE Casino, Jackpots + BXO COIN! on: March 04, 2018, 12:15:57 AM
that was a surprisingly huge jackpot
when I looked at the bet I didn't get why that particular bet hit JP at all  Huh
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/20933051
well played , PickleRick!

The raw outcome on that bet is high enough to win jackpot 1 with a bet of only 15 bits. You can find more detailed information on the jackpot tab on our site.

First if I not mistaken jackpot is hit equal to the percentage on how much they wagered, 15 bits can hit 0.5 btc, I would assume thst you have got pretty huge amount of jackpot stored on the site. Second, I wondering too how can with 15bits can get 0.5 btc? Usually 0.01 btc can get all the jackpot and with 15 bits, it should be 10-20%. So how is it possible to have this really big payout?

The chance to hit a jackpot depends on the bet amount. For example with a 1000 bits bet the chance is 1/500k, a 1 bits bet has only 1/500m chance. If you hit the jackpot you get 90% of the amount and 10% goes to the player with biggest wagered in the last 24 hours.

So with just 15 bits he can hit really huge amount youa re saying it affect only the chance? Not the amount that he can get? That means he is pretty lucky to hit that huge amount with just such a low money.
Btw are you guys still be part of moneypot? Because it seems that you guys already make your own thread and how about your coin? Is there any progression?

the bigger the wager the bigger is the chance to hit the odds
but sometimes a small bet can hit jackpot , other times the wager should be bigger to hit the jackpot so it's possible to hit jackpot with small wager but bigger wager increases the odds

for example sometimes you can see in chat that  a user rolled a bet that could hit the jackpot if he wagered X amount , but he didn't get it cause the wager was low

What do you mean? You just said that if we wagered any amount it will hit the jackpot yet now you are saying that if the wagered is too small it wont trigger the jackpot so which one is true?

Are you saying that wagered and bet, let me clarify it here, if we bet any amount then it could possibly hit the jackpot but if one player do not have enough wagered amount although he hit the jackpot, ot wont count?
2090  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁3 NEW COINS★★★22nd BILLION BETS PROMO★★★🎁 on: March 03, 2018, 01:24:15 PM

But in other case, if a user without any deposits which mean only trying to use faucet to make money then I think the site reserves the right to block the account/withdrawal. All sites has their own rules about it, so users should follow the rules unless the rules are added after such condition.

I don't agree with this part because the user didn't do anything wrong here because he/she was allowed to claim a faucet and with that money, they played to earn money. As long as they didn't cheat the system they suppose to get their money.

If the owner thinks that that person didn't deposit money for quite some time then why did they allowed them to claim the faucet money?

Don't you think something wrong with their faucet claim system?

Yes, the ability of users to claim faucets even though they are potentially not able to withdraw the winning money earned is a dilemma for both parties. The only way out for this problem in my opinion is to tweak the faucet system. The faucet feature should only appear only on qualified accounts. As for those who do not meet the requirements, the faucet feature should not be displayed. Indeed this would need extra works, but at least this is a solution that I think makes sense.

Btw, the 23th billion bets promotion is coming soon! Good luck to all of us!

I do not think bitsler team can do this thing, the purpose of faucet is for people to test the site and I believe there is tons of players still want to join bitsler community and played so if they do not try the site at first, how are you going to let them come into the house and play? I also see that the one that abuse is mostly have multiple accounts which is probably have the same ip. I would suggest to make some limit on their ip and their account to claim the faucet, if this not to be done, it will just like that forever
2091  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bit-Exo.com - BTC, LTC, Dash & DOGE Casino, Jackpots + BXO COIN! on: March 03, 2018, 11:38:21 AM
that was a surprisingly huge jackpot
when I looked at the bet I didn't get why that particular bet hit JP at all  Huh
https://www.moneypot.com/bets/20933051
well played , PickleRick!

The raw outcome on that bet is high enough to win jackpot 1 with a bet of only 15 bits. You can find more detailed information on the jackpot tab on our site.

First if I not mistaken jackpot is hit equal to the percentage on how much they wagered, 15 bits can hit 0.5 btc, I would assume thst you have got pretty huge amount of jackpot stored on the site. Second, I wondering too how can with 15bits can get 0.5 btc? Usually 0.01 btc can get all the jackpot and with 15 bits, it should be 10-20%. So how is it possible to have this really big payout?

The chance to hit a jackpot depends on the bet amount. For example with a 1000 bits bet the chance is 1/500k, a 1 bits bet has only 1/500m chance. If you hit the jackpot you get 90% of the amount and 10% goes to the player with biggest wagered in the last 24 hours.

So with just 15 bits he can hit really huge amount youa re saying it affect only the chance? Not the amount that he can get? That means he is pretty lucky to hit that huge amount with just such a low money.
Btw are you guys still be part of moneypot? Because it seems that you guys already make your own thread and how about your coin? Is there any progression?
2092  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: March 03, 2018, 05:53:31 AM
I find withdrawals wagering requirements ridiculous to be honest,but each site has its own rules,

If you don't read rules before depositing money then it is your fault.

It is similar to Bitler bans accounts when they profited from a faucet because that is their rules.

I agree with you, people always just check the "I agree" box and then get mad when they break or don't understand the rules..

But bitsler banning accounts that profited from faucets, really? Did not know that Cheesy
Well, it's in their ToS. If someone never deposit and play only from faucet they can ban player.
If I recall someone was abusing their faucet with large number of multi accounts gaining positive edge against them.

I believe you're talking about bitselr issue. If someone is always playing with free money means it is not players mistake but it is admin mistake because he doesn't know how to control his faucet claim system. They should limit all faucet users claims and once they allow means then you shouldn't ban accounts. They shouldn't allow faucet claims once a user reaches certain free claims until they deposit money.

Nope, you are wrong, bitsler put their faucet normally of course for betting purpose but to abuse it everyday is not really good way to bet and that is why they limit on how much they should claim everyday. In the mean time if in some period of time they do not make any deposit and keep on abuse it then their account will be banned

I believe FJ have this regulations too right? I do not think any site want their site to be abused on players that do not even put any deposit once to start gambling.
2093  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▰▰▰ LUCKYGAMES.IO ▰▰▰ ✅ 5 Awesome Games ✅ 49 Cryptocurrencies ✅ Daily Contests on: March 03, 2018, 03:20:46 AM
In the past few days two players hitting a large amount of bitcoin in wins?
Is this site a cash machine all the sudden? Grin

Some good promotional material to get more people to want to join the site to see what all the commotion is all about.

I do not think it will be just as cash machine, some of them find their luck through many of sites and never hit the good one until they found out this site and suddenly hit big. I just hope he wont scatter his money to any other site which is not profitable to him or her. Every site that gives you good money will be really a good site as well Cheesy
2094  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: February 28, 2018, 04:51:08 PM
How can even referrals determined you are going to win or not? This is really ridiculous thing to say, referrals is the only way to support your income, although it is not much and you can't do anything too due to their inactivity. Not many of them are going to play faucet, some of them even try only to buy lottery without claiming their faucet as well

I think he means referrals bring you earnings as passive income. This also applies to lottery tickets: the more referrals you have the more tickets you get, so your chances to win increase. So, I don’t think it is a ridiculous thing to say. Most of them play faucet because it is free.

If you got so many referrals but there is only some that claim their faucet or even played the hi-lo games, what so you expect to get? This will be just wasting time right? But to think higher chances will win you the first prize may be you are really dreaming, this is not that easy to have more tickets and help you win, if you do not have any luck then this must be pointless thing to do
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If players do not lose, how are you going to get profit? Be realistic please, if you want to promote your site do not do this kind of thing, people will think that your site is just some cheap site with hope big whale coming and start to play. You should do some promotions like giveaway or may be event to attract people or may be signature campaign which is the best way to attract people around
2096  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - Dice, sports, poker coming soon - 50 BTC Jackpot, 20 currencies on: February 28, 2018, 10:54:30 AM
I too would like to see sports betting, you raised a ton of money let's see you offer what your customers request.
Also interested to see how poker turns out.


I do not think they are going to add this sportbetting games to the players because they need to improve their poker games, I would like to see more tournament on their poker instead of making another more games. More over they are from dice site to poker site and now you are asking them to get another sportbetting game? I do not say they can't but it seems that to cover too much games will not turn good in result

Take a look at the title of this thread "BetKing.io - Dice, sports, poker coming soon - 50 BTC Jackpot, 20 currencies"
Do you see something related to sports game?  Grin
The title clearly tells us that there will be sports game at Betking, why it will not turn good in result if they add more games? I'm sure Betking knows to handle it.


The title said that of course but it seems that they have so many games coming suddenly, from dice which is their main from the start. But poker, they just start it and it still on developing and they still do not have so much big tournament around. Now they are trying to get sport betting again? It is just little too much for them, dont you think that way? I do not hesitate about their vision in the future but do you think it is just too sudden?
2097  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 20 Billion Bets | 111+ BTC Jackpot! on: February 28, 2018, 06:37:55 AM
Okay, 0.4 ETH per month is also a very good profit and I'm glad for you that you manage to get it combining different betting strategies. It's a rule of thumb for me that no particular strategy can make you profit with gambling on a regular basis, neither any combination of them can do that. But there are always exceptions from any rules and I'm glad that your case is exceptional in a good sense. Keep it up! Good luck in the future!

Of course, there is no strategy that really works that is why you should sometimes push your luck and try to hit big. If you are too scare you wont get no where, some combination will do in some short term profit, it is not really going to work for long term but yes it works for now
And what about this exception about? As long as I do not violate their rules and ToS, I do not think they have any exception to withdraw any balance here

What I meant was that it is a known rule, and as I can see to you also, that no strategy can make you always win in gambling. But as far as you do make 0.4 ETH per month, your case is an exceptional one. I'm glad for you and I wish you good luck in the future, although I don't think we can set an exceptional case as an example for others. I wasn't saying anything about withdrawal conditions on PD, which are: MIN 0.004 and 0.0009 as a fee, applied to everyone without discrimination.

What is the exception on my case? I think everyone is having the same situation as I do as long as they do not violate their rules then they can withdraw every single balance that you have and one more thing, do you even know they do not let you to play from the faucet? And some of them even manage to win a huge of coin with their faucet without making ane single deposit. This is what an you called exception?

I already thought that we we've been Lost in Translation forever here. Smiley YES, that's exactly what I meant. I've never been talking about any exceptions regarding withdrawals, but I'm aware about exceptions regarding winnings. I've even experienced that myself on several dice sites, PrimeDice included. I logged in PD around 3 years ago, it was my Birthday, and I won 0.007 hitting 99.99 in the 24th bet. After giving some tips I withdrew around 0.005 successfully. I know such things happen but they are exceptional. )

Yes, my bad, maybe we should end it here cause promotion is coming, will see you on their event if you have some time. May be you are lucky at that time. I do not think that it is easy again for nowadays but compare to other site I think many of them already hit 99.99 many times

Anyway OP, what about this ping pong game? What does it mean left to right and right to left? Can you get specific explanation? Is it about the number that you roll must high to low and low to high or what?
2098  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitKong - Fun & Addictive, provably fair bitcoin game. on: February 28, 2018, 04:40:19 AM
or you could just say the truth this site is a complete scam

everyday new person for top 2 spots

and complete scam

they change seeds and rig everything they are a scam

Do you have something to prove that bitkong is a scam site? As far as I know that bitkong is very old site that offer minesweeper game in which they already very well known around here for their games, many similar site coming out but they can't hold longer enough to compete with bitkong, so if you have some proof may be you should post it right here
2099  Economy / Gambling / Re: $15 Free on: February 28, 2018, 02:00:57 AM
Quote from: TheLordDSK

I readed the thread you dumbfuck, where is the allowed countries line huh? Good moorning smell some coffee.

Restricted countries:
Spain, Italy, USA, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, China, Japan, Hong Kong, Indonesia, North Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, UAE, Yemen, Turkey, Israel, Singapore, France, Romania, Bulgaria, Netherlands, Norway, Germany, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Great Britain, Denmark, Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Estonia

So I also can not get $ 15 for free. But I would not sell my documents for that amount.

On darknet people can pay around $500 for documents. Maybe this offer is from someone who earn by selling docs there.. Better be careful guys!

Actually I am agree on this, we can't share our identity around here since the main thing of bitcoin is become anonymous so if there is some restricted are around, them KYC will be applied when we gamble and this is not really good for all players here since we might be revealed. Besides of the restricted country I do hope someone know this and consider it when they played

I do not say that it is a bad site but we are trying to become anonymous here, no offense here
2100  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BTCSPIN Casino🎲170+Games And Growing. Register And Grab Your 300% Bonus!🎲 on: February 27, 2018, 05:13:27 PM
Played for a bit during this weekend. Got nice profit so far. Hope that my withdrawal will be easy and fast

Congrats on your winning, I was unlucky with my last 2 deposits few days back. Withdrawal is processed manually IMO so it will take few hours to be approved unless the admin is online when you made the request. Maybe it will take a little bit longer during weekends as it is a common thing in most casinos with no instant withdrawal.

Such big site do not even have instamt withdrawal? How are they going to attract people on playing in their site? It does not matter if player taking slow withdraw but at least it get confirmed quickly but without an intant withdrawal people do not want to risk their money here. Their money stuck for some period on the site, and they can't even do nothing with it.
We process small requests almost instantly, so it cant cause any discomfort to our players. To process bigger requests we need a little bit more time to make things clear to be sure that everything is okay and legal.
We do not freeze your account while processing your withdrawal request, to make things clear =)

If this is for real then you should improve your bankroll or your hard wallet so everyone can enjoy it and you should replenish it regularly so people do not wait that long just to withdraw X amount. Btw how much is the limit before you do it manually? I believe if you opened a slots game you should more consider about the bankroll rather than improving the game, because you get it from developer so it does not really matter to you
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