Hi. I would like to buy a total of 5 D3. If there is someone who wants to sell please contact me Tel. +48883109779 Mail: pawlikowskiego@gpucomputer.plmaybe wait for innosilicon that is releasing a5 dashminer, that is more efficient and hash at 30GH? roi is very fast with that and the preorder is faster too than bitmain which is out of stock at the moment This is question as there is lot of people complaining the innosilicon: 1 - Overestimate their miners (not reaching the announced specs) 2 - Are late with announced delivery time (don't know if true as have no personal experience ) Also have seen accusation this miner is just hurry announced to react on the D3 release. Don't know either, but seems pretty realistic to me. But genereal looking A5 seems too good to be true ... double hashrate then D3 and almost half consumption??? |
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It's correct their house edge is set at 1% because they reduce your chances of winning/lossing from 50% to 49.5%. 49.5 (losing chance)+49.5 ( winning chance) + 1(house edge) = 100 This is applicable only to dice type game where you are able to choose your win chance which is reduced to keep the HE ... instead of regular 50% (would mean 0%HE) it's lowered to 49.5. I understand that. But in OPs game the win chance is fixed (5 even nrs, 5 odd nrs ... so its 50:50) and the only thing he can adjust HE is by amount of winnings. Moreover there is very, very small probability the result hash will not contain any digit ... what happens then? ( I know it's almost imposible to happen but should be clarified as well ). @OP Why are you not reacting to my question? You should be able to easily answer how you come up with 1% HE. I started to feel you don't know. Please show me the applicable formula for HE of your game. |
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@OP Can you explain how did you calculate the house edge? I'm not an expert in this but would expect to receive 1.99*my bet if the HE is 1% ( you offer only 1.98*my bet ).
1.98x is 1% house edge. 1.99x is 0.5% house edge. Google for more... OP, you 1st need to add bitcoin and then may be a wagering contest will be the best way to promote your game. But with escrow of the prize. Otherwise nobody will participate. But it makes no sense. According this logic the 1.5x payout would be 25% HE and 1x payout would be 50% HE ? How come  Theoretical max HE should be 100%. Thats why I asked how it is calculated as I have no experience and just tried to apply common sense. I did some quick googling and found this formula: House edge = 1 - (return / loss) (source) which gives me -98% ( assuming this number reflects the 2% HE). Feel free to educate me. |
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I guess the only contest you can do with such game is related to wagered amount.
User who wager most (maybe the one who win/lost the most) will win some reward or alternatively can win the user with most win/lose streaks.
I think you can take a contest example from some dice gambling sites because this game is almost the same as dice game that only have a slight differences so you do not have many options to made a contest. Ok, but this game without registration. How can I check wager? For begins 0.01 LTC for free https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2038173Thank you. Well you can check all depositing/playing addresses. Then announce/pay the wining one. This would require people to use same address repeatedly which is not convenient. So other way is to ask participants to provide all their addresses and prove owneship (by signing message eg.) and then announce the winners. (thinkinig it twice ... Im affraid this would not be fully transaparent and fair as multiple users can colaborate claiming they are one person ... but thats actually not a big deal for you as your target is to attract users right? ) It would probably be more user-friendly to enable registrations instead of having the user signing all those addresses and then you yourself having to verify all of those.. Ofcourse, let people play without registration! Just set an option for them so they can register and participate in contests  True. It's pretty unhandy and I agree with the idea to register those who want participate in contest. Good point. To take it more into details the entire process could be automated by some script and OP could make interface to ease users proving the ownership ... still not entirely smooth but could work. @OP Can you explain how did you calculate the house edge? I'm not an expert in this but would expect to receive 1.99*my bet if the HE is 1% ( you offer only 1.98*my bet ). |
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I guess the only contest you can do with such game is related to wagered amount.
User who wager most (maybe the one who win/lost the most) will win some reward or alternatively can win the user with most win/lose streaks.
I think you can take a contest example from some dice gambling sites because this game is almost the same as dice game that only have a slight differences so you do not have many options to made a contest. Ok, but this game without registration. How can I check wager? For begins 0.01 LTC for free https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2038173Thank you. Well you can check all depositing/playing addresses. Then announce/pay the wining one. This would require people to use same address repeatedly which is not convenient. So other way is to ask participants to provide all their addresses and prove owneship (by signing message eg.) and then announce the winners. (thinkinig it twice ... Im affraid this would not be fully transaparent and fair as multiple users can colaborate claiming they are one person ... but thats actually not a big deal for you as your target is to attract users right? ) |
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I guess the only contest you can do with such game is related to wagered amount.
User who wager most (maybe the one who win/lost the most) will win some reward or alternatively can win the user with most win/lose streaks.
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" If it seems to good to be true, it is." Folks need to get their feet back on the ground. It's just not realistic to expect to be able to make $80,000.00 per year from these units. Not even 1/10th of that. If you receive these units after October, you will be facing 10 Million in difficulty. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but come on. Think about it. S-9's are netting around $300.00 per month per unit. This is what you can anticipate from these X11 miners. They are "commercial grade" rigs and their effect on the networks will be gargantuan. There will be a lucky few that will get them first but their dreams will be short lived. At least their machines will be paid for in short order.
That's why it's imperative for early adopters of the first batch to mine as soon as they get the miners. During the first few days profits will be very large but will decrease exponentially. Nobody expects to make enough for an early retirement from these but you will still be making good $$$. X11 is currently an arms race and these may possibly become outdated quick, although this may be untrue. Ahhh, reminds me of the good ol' days when I got my first-batch KNCMiner Jupiter. I was mining 1.5btc/day, but the difficulty was jumping 20-40% every adjustment. It was stressful to watch, but I still tripled my investment before selling the device for a profit. Just like the L3+, the D3 will be a HOT commodity with those mining from the first few batches reaping most of the profits. Of course, anyone who looks at how many bitcoins each S9 batch has mined knows that even the batches that were released 6-months after launch have already earned more bitcoin than they originally costed. People were saying similar things back then about how the S9 would never be profitable past the first few batches. Yeah, S9 for sure. Not speaking of S7. Those were also said (time ago) to not be profitable soon but still are. But 15 Ghs X11  ... Damn, what a beast. IMO would be great investment. I'm seriously thinking to buy some once they will be available. |
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LOL There is currently 16 mil. BTC in circulation and if you would find 1000 people to register your site, there would be no bitcoins for others after 160 days. What happens then? You might consider changing it to satoshis. That way you may lure some victims.  Realy funny post |
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Ok, my goal for today is to start from 16k sats and reach an amount closer as possible to 1 BTC, solely with my roulette abilities, will I be able to do it? https://www.twitch.tv/faneagle/ follow me and let's discover it! Get going! Starting in 3 minutes! Hmm ... how do you intend to beat the housedge? I'm not giving you much chances but will check it. Good luck |
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The one above is defintely ponzi. Too good to be true/sustainable ... You should stay away. A good site to identify bad btc sites is badbitcoin.org |
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Just for info. Next few days I'll be away and unable to do the manual update so only API based stats (crypto-games and bitvest) will reflect the reality.
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Sounds interesting but not a job for me. Getting the url is very simple task but the rest seems to be for hackers only.
Would not call it scam as I do not know what these "upload shell" etc. means.
I'm thinking maybe OP is looking to hire some hackers and this is just way how to test them.
Let's wait for skilled guys to explore it.
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You can imagine like auctioning (space for your transaction in blockchain)
So when there is to many senders at time and each one wants to push his transaction as soon as possible then fees are rising.
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Are you serious?
First you made post you offering to provide loan and few days later asking how to fake transaction?
I can clearly say you are a scammer ... very dumb one.
And no, there is no way.
EDIT. Yea, I know about double spends. Just didn't wanted him to know about.
But it's already mentined above so I admit it was pointless.
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... Proč si myslíš že je Arbolet podvod?
To je snad jasný podle slibovanejch úroků. A na základě toho bych bral i další informace s rezervou (neříkám že přímo lžou ale můžou je poupravit ku svému prospěchu). Tak pokud je to jen jeden argument, tak to je dost slabý. Které poupravené informace máš na mysli? O kolik tě obrali, že tomu říkáš podvod? Nebo znáš někoho, koho obrali? Běží to už pár let, ale zmínka tady na fóru o tom není žádná. Nikdo nevaruje před podvodným arboletem. Proč tedy? Ale dost zásadní argument a není nutno nic dodávat. Jestli ti nestačí pak nevim co s tebou. Prostě běž do banky, vem si půjčku, hoď to tam a máš vystaráno. Hlavně pak nechoď nikam brečet páč se ti lidi akorát vysmějou. Žádný konkrétní informace na mysli nemám, je to jen doměnka. Nečetl jsem to (stačil mi pohled na slibované zisky a mám jasno ... pryč odtamtud). Osobně neznám nikoho dost blbýho na to aby tam investoval. Taky si myslim že spousta lidí co tam investovala (jestli vůbec někdo) to ani nepřizná. Nemaj stránky v angličtině tak co by tu dělali. Možná se bojej že anglicky mluvící publikum je chytřejší a jenom chamtivý český jelito se chytí. Fakt nevim. Zkus založit téma v invest sekci že víš o společnosti co slibuje takovej zisk a uvidíš reakce (připrav se že dostaneš red truts). Když to je asi ten největší problém. Já bych chtěl spíše informovat o rozvíjející se komunitě kolem bitcoinu, kterou arbolet je. Je tam aktivní forum v českém jazyce, je to web pro čechy. Ne proto, že jsou lidi anglicky mluvící chytřejší (o čemž já osobně pochybuju) ale pro to, aby i lidé v produktivním věku, kteří se bohužel učili jen rusky, mohli mít nějaké informace o alternativním zůsobu převodu peněz a používání blockchainu. Arbolet rozvíjí spoustu aktivit ve virtuálním světě a v tomto směru se snaží i lidi vzdělat. Nikdo nikoho nenutí, aby vkládal peníze na jejich účet a nechal si je zhodnocovat. To je jen takový bonus a je jen na tobě, jestli ho využiješ, nebo ne. Je to spíše myšleno tak, že tam, kam dáváš svoji energii, tak tomu se budeš věnovat. Možná to mělo být i trochu šokující, aby to přitáhlo pozornost lidí. Odsuzovat něco na základě doměnek a ač víš, že to běží víc než rok a půl (přesněji od prosince 2015) je trochu hloupé, nemyslíš? V podstatě jsem se jen chtěl zeptat, jestli se o Arboletu tady ví a jestli tam někdo odtud je aktivním členem. Ale vidím, že je to tu mrtvé. Komunita budovaná kolem ponzi, no to bude teda kvalita. Jak dlouho ta věc běží je naprosto irelevantní. Byli tu 2, 3 i pětileté ponzi a jak to pak dopadlo .. jenom více škody. Nemám nic proti starším lidem (vyjímky se samozřemě najdou). V mnohém jsou rozumnější něž madší generace ale nemyslim že to platí zrovna v oboru nových technologií. Prostě se snadněji nechají zmanipulovat (což mi bohužel přijde i tento případ). Nevadí, nebudu se v tom dál pitvat. Byl jsi varován a jak s tim naložíš je tvoje věc. Mimochodem s pomocí google překladače (sám ho používám dost často) už dneska není problém vytáhnout informace i z komplexnějších cizojazyčných článků nebo se lámaně domluvit. Dal som si tu namahu a pozrel co to je ten arbolet.. Je to 1000% podvod! Web je zalozeny na scheme ponzi, aby vyzerali doveryhodnejsue, tak to trochu prikraslili blabolmi , to tiez robia ponzi stranky... Ako poznas ponzi stranku? davaju ti 1+% denne NAZVDY , vacsinou je to "registrovana" spolocnost, a web dizajn je krajsi ako priemerne stranky. Co si myslis ako ziskavaju penizae??? Nemaju ziadne prijmy, vyplacaju (na zaciatku) z toho, co ostatni vlozili... Ak sa blizi bod zlomu (vklady <= vybery) tak ten web zanechaju, vytiahnu peniaze a zdrhnu. Ano na zaciatku platia, no len velmi malo ludi dostane naspat aspon to co vlozili (plus fakt, ze platia zvysuje doveryhodnost, takze investori reinvestuju)... v sucasnosti neexistuje biznis ktory bi ti denne priniesol co i len 0.5% tvojich investicii, nie to este 1.5% LOL smejem sa.. Ruky prec od takychto hovien.. Cele bitcoin faucety su plne bannerov co lakaju na takyto hnus, pre majitelov je to ultra rychla cesta ako zbohatnut, ja by som ich strielal... Vsade na mna vyskakuje 6% daily forever, uk registered company a tak... ale je to len cisty podvod... Ja bych střílel i tupce co tam investujou a pak to ještě propagujou. Jenom šířej tu nákazu dál. A když to celý zkolabuje tak maj plný huby svých práv, podávaj žaloby atd. ... Znesvéprávnit a poslat do kriminálu za spoluúčast na podvodu. Kecy typu: "malá částka za ten risk přece stojí" a "chci se jen podělit o dobrou zkušenost" je idiocie nejvyššího kalibru. Akorát tim motivujou podvodníky aby vymejšleli nový a nový sračky takže to nikdy neskončí. Stačí mrknout do místní invest sekce, kdejakej ňouma to zkouší. Veme si free webhosting, free doménu, použije free template přidá pár keců o obchodování a bohužel to vypadá že jim to lidi fakt žerou (teď jen doufám že sem neinspiroval další). To je fakt hrozný jak chamtivost zatmí člověku rozum. |
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So this is what I've figured: - Generate private key, address offline from bitaddress.org. Make paper wallet
- Send btc to this address
- Setup Electrum wallet with a seed on offline and online computer.
- SWEEP the key into OFFLINE Electrum wallet. This will not import the key, but transfer the bitcoins from that address to the electrum wallet address.
- Sign an offline transaction made by Electrum (to send some btc to a exchange)
- Execute the signed transaction on Online computer Electrum
Am I doing anything incorrect? So complicated and so useles. Can't you see the very first step ruins it all? Using online service to generate paperwallet is bad decision. Try it this way. 1- Install electrum to OFFLINE DEVICE, generate address&key pair, print it and DELETE THE WALLET - Now you have created a paper wallet. 2 - Send BTC to this address. - Now you have paper wallet with BTC. 3 - Instead of SWEEP ( which will cost you transaction fee) use the IMPORT to OFFLINE DEVICE with wallet - Now you have offline wallet where you can sign the transaction. 4 - Sign the transaction and DELETE the OFFLINE wallet. - Now you have signed transaction 5 - Copy SIGNED TX to any ONLINE device with and push it (no need to have wallet installed here, use any pushing service e.g blockr.io ) Note that importing address to offline wallet not ruin the paper wallet itself. You can use it again. Step1 - How do you print address and key from Electrum? Right click to given address / private key. |
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So this is what I've figured: - Generate private key, address offline from bitaddress.org. Make paper wallet
- Send btc to this address
- Setup Electrum wallet with a seed on offline and online computer.
- SWEEP the key into OFFLINE Electrum wallet. This will not import the key, but transfer the bitcoins from that address to the electrum wallet address.
- Sign an offline transaction made by Electrum (to send some btc to a exchange)
- Execute the signed transaction on Online computer Electrum
Am I doing anything incorrect? So complicated and so useles. Can't you see the very first step ruins it all? Using online service to generate paperwallet is bad decision. Try it this way. 1- Install electrum to OFFLINE DEVICE, generate address&key pair, print it and DELETE THE WALLET - Now you have created a paper wallet. 2 - Send BTC to this address. - Now you have paper wallet with BTC. 3 - Instead of SWEEP ( which will cost you transaction fee) use the IMPORT to OFFLINE DEVICE with wallet - Now you have offline wallet where you can sign the transaction. 4 - Sign the transaction and DELETE the OFFLINE wallet. - Now you have signed transaction 5 - Copy SIGNED TX to any ONLINE device with and push it (no need to have wallet installed here, use any pushing service e.g blockr.io ) Note that importing address to offline wallet not ruin the paper wallet itself. You can use it again. |
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Looks suspicious to me.
1 - Would you tell me how you distinguis refback for old and new users when there are only 3 options for refback to choose?
Share amount equally among all referrals
Share amount based on total referral activity
Share amount based on referral activity since last payout
2 - You bet strategy may work for short time but not forever. May I remind you thing called house edge.
Honestly, I have strong feeling you just lure refs using your half-lies, in addition giving them false not working strategy to get even more reward for you.
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I would say the best option is to import the address to e.g. electrum. Send out the amount you want to spend/sell (to either exchange or any other wallet you are using regularly) and then delete this wallet file.
Alternatively you can sweep the address to the wallet but this makes a regular transaction (it simply sends all the bitcoins to new address in that wallet ).
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Just notice you have updated the OP.
Yes, thats correct.
Signing offline transaction and pushing it is actually the most secure way. If you sign it using offline device.
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Is this giveaway still alive because I want to register
I haven't get my account credited. So I think it's over. |
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