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1401  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan needed for a HD6990 on: January 29, 2012, 09:14:19 AM
Id strongly recommend you go for a few used 5xx0 cards. 5850s sell for ~$120 (or less with some luck) and will give you ~350 MH (or more with some luck), so you are looking at less than half the payback time.  Check ebay or the buy and sell section of this forum.

If you are worried about gaming, a pair of 5850s will do just fine in any modern game. Or you could look at 5870s which provide about the same MH/$ and better gaming performance.
1402  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ATI Radeon 6950 1GB Vs 2GB GDDR5 RAM on: January 29, 2012, 09:02:29 AM
I was under the impression that underclocking memory is benificial as it lowers temperatures,So the difference between 1GB or 2GB would make little difference

non sequitur
Its not because memory speed makes no difference that capacity wouldnt either. As it happens, this is indeed the case, bitcoin mining requires something like 100Mb vram, anything more is pointless, but you couldnt conclude that from the fact everyone underclocks
1403  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Need few BTC, can pay with PayPal on: January 29, 2012, 08:59:48 AM
You have a website called "buy bitcoin" featured in your sig,  but...
 you cant buy bitcoins?
 Huh
1404  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Why do you mine on deepbit? on: January 29, 2012, 08:50:05 AM

EDIT: So i just went around testing pools. And deepbit has the best latency for me, That alone is reason enough for me to stay.
 

Really? Why? This isnt an FPS competition. See how many stales you get, even with a slightly higher ping. Ill eat my shoe if you get 3% stales on a decent pool.
1405  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 29, 2012, 08:44:14 AM
Maybe stick nails into the foam to weigh it down?
Have you tried plumbers glue?

Good thinking. Would need a lot of nails but something like that should work. Or just rocks or bricks. Create a bottom layer of pu foam , then put whatever weight on it, then apply the next layers so its firmly embedded. Ill try that for V0.2 Smiley Now Ill just make some "bridges" in the PU that stick out above the PVC bowl and press it down with rubbers. Or something.
1406  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 29, 2012, 12:18:47 AM
Consider this, you have intermediate fuels in close proximity to the card, PU foam, plastic wire insulation, plastic moldings etc all nicely heated up by the card. If you lose the oil flow all those materials are now lightly coated in oil and with the splash method you might even have created an air-fuel mixture.

With my setup, a pump failure wont cause the card to run dry. The only real chance of running dry is when the oil leaks out in to my pond. I intend to install a floatswitch of sorts to shut the system off, possibly even close a valve, more to protect my pond than my shed Smiley. Even so, assuming oil cooling could manage to keep these cards around 50C, you could just define a shutdown point at 70C or whatever.  If there isnt a big difference between working oil cooling and no oil or static oil, then the whole exercise would be proven futile.

BTW, I also already have smoke detectors near my rigs. Of course that only helps if Im home. Still not a bad idea to grab one, they cost next to nothing.
1407  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Internet Café: Considering accepting Bitcoins. on: January 29, 2012, 12:10:33 AM
Angel investors.. good luck. Having presented a business case there once, I can say with confidence three key things they look for:
- high potential ROI
- clear exit strategy
- confidence in management (read: preferably experience)

OP can offer none of those.

I wont stop him from trying, but chances of him even being allowed to present his case seem slim to non existent.
1408  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Why do you mine on deepbit? on: January 28, 2012, 11:43:01 PM
Just because DB or any other fee pool tries to calculate the cost of doing business and a profit margin and charges a hard fee for it doesn't make them "evil" or bad or wrong.

Nope. But it begs the question why the miners are mining there. It does no good for their revenue, and it does bitcoin no good to have a few mega pools dominate the scene. The only one benefiting is Tycho.
1409  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 28, 2012, 11:39:24 PM
This is about oil submersion.
1410  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Why do you mine on deepbit? on: January 28, 2012, 11:19:01 PM
I also dont understand why DDoS resistance is an issue. Use a miner with failover capabilities like cgminer. If your pool goes down for whatever reason, it just switches to a backup pool, or p2pool or even solo if all your pools are down.
1411  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Submersing a rig on: January 28, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
Im bumping in to my first problem. PU is lighter than oil. It doesnt stick well enough to the PVC container, so it will float. I guess that can be worked around by mechanically forcing the block down, but its not a good start lol. On the bright side, its a joy to dremel canals and stuff in PU foam. If I didnt have 2 left hands, Id start sculpting!
1412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Count down to Iran invasion on: January 28, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Iran has already called our bluff by stopping oil exports to the EU well before the sanctions were supposed to be activated. Quite clever really, and completely reasonable. Now we will have to buy (Iranian) oil from the Chinese for more money. The Iranians and Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010172771
1413  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Will minning bitcoins kill your card? on: January 28, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
I found that artifacting happens around the time I start changing clocks and applying a load to the cards. It mines fine, and it is NOT a clock I would normally set for gaming. If I reboot and use stock or "gamer" type overclocks and run furmark, it runs fine no artifacts.

This.
1414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Count down to Iran invasion on: January 28, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
I think he is implying its okay to wipe out a democracy because then its the people's fault for believing they have sovereign rights.  When its a dictatorship or theocracy you do the same thing, but you have to call it differently, you call it "liberation".
1415  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Found new(?) Miner, need help! [Mod note: malware] on: January 28, 2012, 09:54:45 AM
Seems like its not only a drop dead stupid script kiddie trying to steal wallets, but possibly a neo nazi too.
The thought he may have lost his paypal account makes me want to cry.
Not.
1416  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [95 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining, Tx Fees Paid Out] on: January 28, 2012, 09:45:21 AM
1% isn't much when you see how the bitcoin markets constantly fluctuate. The price for a bitcoin is very unstable, and if I pay out in dollars then I'm taking a considerable risk. Best bet is probably to look at how volatile the markets have been and try to find some semi-safe markup. Two possible places to collect: require donation to activate paypal payout + use the latest market exchange rate minus a percentage.

FYI, eclipse pool charges 7.5% for paypal payouts.

As for volatility; you could protect yourself by selling the coins before handing out the paypal dollars. Youd give a guestimate how much the miner would get in dollar, but you only know for sure after you sold the bitcoins on mtgox. Since we are talking very small amounts here in all likelihood (no newbie is going to accumulate 100BTC from mining and have them paid with god knows what fee), the estimate shouldnt be far from the actual value.

I wouldnt pair this to donations though. This ought to be a revenue stream for you by itself, it doesnt make sense to limit your potential profit that way. Moreover, someone could just turn on donations when he wants to be paid out (and yeah, you could avoid that by only allowing blocks to be paid out when donations where set, but it would seem a lot of pointless work).

BTW, once you have this working, consider expanding the service to payout any bitcoins. So allow people to send BTCs to their bitminter account and sell them through paypal. Though you will want to look in to potential legal ramifications, Im not sure of those. If its doable, it would be a good way to make money and get traffic to your site.

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I don't think miners would want to pay $5 per SMS. But probably much more than the price I'd have to pay to send one.

This is probably best done not by donation but a feature you activate and it works as long as it can subtract the necessary sum from your balance each time a message is triggered. With a selectable limit for max messages per day.

Id do it slightly differently. I wouldnt make it appear as if the miner is paying for his sms messages himself from a savings account, even though to some extend, he obviously will. Enable it for anyone who donates x%, and do keep track of how many SMS he gets and how much the donation brings in, but give everyone some credit, so that even a smallish miner who activates the option gets a message 20 minutes later if a block is solved; even if he hasnt accumulated enough donations yet to "pay for it". Otherwise it may seem as if he enabled an option that costs him money and he is not getting anything for it.

Set an absolute limit for everyone (no point in sending out dozens of sms to anyone) and after 24 or 48 hours start comparing donations with costs and calculate a max number of daily SMS messages the miner is entitled to depending on his hash rate.
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Instant payment and paying invalid blocks is really the same feature. I was planning to activate that at perhaps 3% donation. Donate enough BTC and you get it on BTC blocks. Donate enough NMC and it works on NMC blocks.

Again, I would do this differently. Many newbies and non newbies havent got a clue what to do with their namecoins. Use that to your advantage. One option could be donating NMCs to the pool. Im pretty sure that would be popular. I got about 100NMC in my bitminter account now, their yours once I have the option to donate them.I dont think Im alone here.

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Interesting. Maybe instead of different perks activating at different donation levels, you would "buy" perks with your donations. Each perk would require X percent donation, and you can freely pick the ones you prefer. And then there is the VIP package that gives you all features and costs less in donation than all the individual features added together.

K.I.S.S.

Id offer no more than 2 or 3 donation levels max. One of them being "donate namecoins".


1417  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [18 GH][0% Fee] A1BITCOINPOOL.COM 20 BTC BONUS PROPORTIONAL POOL on: January 28, 2012, 09:07:02 AM
I understand the psychological need to finish the block, but you need to weigh that against the hard numbers.  You're better off cutting your losses now and not falling into the Gamblers Fallacy

And just screw everyone that produced those 3+M shares?  Im sure that will ensure a loyal following.
1418  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [18 GH][0% Fee] A1BITCOINPOOL.COM 20 BTC BONUS PROPORTIONAL POOL on: January 28, 2012, 12:10:21 AM
Actually, I told you . Although its entirely possible Inaba said the same thing elsewhere, its not exactly new or rocketscience.

And unfortunately your reasoning is still flawed. Its not luck, its math. Someone finding a quick block would be far better off finding it solo. And someone with a low hashrate, who is unlikely to find a block solo, would have to feel incredibly lucky because he will be very likely to get far less than he'd get anywhere else. He too would be better off solo.

Anyway; there isnt much you can do. Only upping the bounty to 35 BTC would make it compelling again. Shows you how much there is to win from pool hopping.
1419  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [18 GH][0% Fee] A1BITCOINPOOL.COM 20 BTC BONUS PROPORTIONAL POOL on: January 27, 2012, 11:53:19 PM
Assume I have 1000GH. If I were to point it to your pool, and have an average block lenght, I would earn 20BTC bounty + my share of the block reward which would be (1.3/ 1.3+ 3.1) = 14.7 BTC. Total reward, 34.7 BTC.

Do you think Id go for it, or mine solo?

1420  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Found new(?) Miner, need help! [Mod note: malware] on: January 27, 2012, 11:21:16 PM
He was stupid enough to create that account from the same IP?
LOL. I nominate him for most stupid hacked of the year award
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