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1041  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU bitforce overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.2.7 on: February 21, 2012, 11:17:35 PM
The plummeting hashrate is partially caused by what I consider a bug I noticed recently. When a pool lags, cgminer sets the clocks back to 157 Mhz. When the pool comes back or cgminer switches to a backup pool, it slowly ramps up the speed from the minimum configured. I see no need for that behavior.  It takes a few minutes before its mining back at full speed for no real reason.
1042  Economy / Services / Re: Mining Space for Rent (Also if a Good Idea / Bad Idea) on: February 21, 2012, 10:50:23 PM

  Oh and for the latest post there, I *could* run a landline (cable) to the router at the front desk but I'd need a good 200+ feet of cable to do so and figure how to run it.  Not impossible but haven't bothered with it yet.  Would be a case then of getting a simple hub to plug everything into then on my end.

If you planned on bridging that 200+ feet with wifi... good luck, particularly if there is like a dozen crappy USB sticks in those mining rigs. There are wireless solutions that work at such distances, but dont expect a typical home router to work reliably.
1043  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU bitforce overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.2.7 on: February 21, 2012, 10:45:59 PM

True, once the attacker gains shell access, you're in deep trouble.
Your trouble can easily get much deeper, however, when the adversary finds clear-text login credentials in some script or config file (e.g. a password for the corporate database...)

Clear text passwords can really make your day when for whatever reason you're unable to grab the elusive root.

But cgminer already stores passwords in clear text and transmits them as such. Of course they are not important passwords (workers), but the same goes for protecting the API. Only an idiot would set the same password as for his email/facebook whatever. But then that idiot might be using that password for his workers already, so nothing changes there.
1044  Economy / Services / Re: Mining Space for Rent (Also if a Good Idea / Bad Idea) on: February 21, 2012, 08:56:14 PM
Wifi ought to be plenty good, I suspect even 3G tethering probably works.
What you will need is remote reboot, so customers can reboot the machines without anyone going there.

Biggest concern would be theft and fire though. So, access control, fire suppression..  Add to that air conditioning, backup power, and hey, you are building a datacenter like everyone else. I hear thats not so cheap Wink.

On a small scale I guess it could work, for a few miners that trust you and that you can trust with not so much equipment that its a true drama when its lost. Anything beyond that, it becomes too risky or much more expensive than it could be worth IMO.
1045  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: A1BitcoinPool Complaint on: February 21, 2012, 08:45:23 PM
Im not going to post it a millionth time. The google cache page shows it pretty well.
Ive also given him my btc address a million times, but here it is again:
15ZPNczbVbmuP5XjnaBGNVVLSAaWRaPF62

Paying out 20BTC when you got 50BTC and owe 100BTC isnt going to do it though.
1046  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU bitforce overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.2.7 on: February 21, 2012, 07:08:35 PM

Adding password access would be more that just a small effort for a few reasons:
1) It's pointless adding password access without data encryption since it defeats the purpose of having a password in the first places
2) If I add data encryption then the protocol used would need to be used by anyone wanting password encryption.


Yeah, that thought crossed my mind, but I dont think its pointless without encryption; its one thing to do a port scan and find vulnerable cgminer instances, its quite another to intercept IP traffic between the miner and its owner. I agree putting a password on it is of course not 100% secure, but far better than nothing (and in my case, better than an IP lockout, since I would be accessing it via 3G on dynamic IP).

A somewhat clumsy alternative perhaps would be one time passwords, but managing that would likely be a nightmare.

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Add/delete/disable is not currently available and is also I doubt a very quick addition.
You cannot delete a pool as such anyway - it would only be 'disable'
Adding a pool: I'd have to have a look at what issues that creates when cgminer is already running
(I've no idea at the moment)

Disable is good enough. As for adding a pool, it works just fine in the CLI while its running, which is why I was slightly surprised the functionality didnt seem to exist in the API. Its about the only thing you cant do through the API (and sadly, one I need lol).
1047  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU bitforce overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.2.7 on: February 21, 2012, 05:41:47 PM
Im not entirely sure this belongs here; a feature requests for the API?

I would like to have password on the API. Its kinda dangerous to leave it open, someone could turn off the fans or whatever, and its extremely useful to have access to the API remotely

I would also like the possibility to manage pools via the API. Add, delete, enabe/disable pools. If thats already possible, then perhaps I misread the documentation.

I someone can make this happen, Ill toss you a coin.
1048  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: A1BitcoinPool Complaint on: February 21, 2012, 05:26:23 PM
129,484 shares according to google cache.
1049  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120 GH/s] BitMinter.com [Zero Fee, Hopper Safe, Merged Mining,Tx Fees Paid Out] on: February 18, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
I rented some GPUmax for bitminter last night..  what a gamble..

What a loss..  Sad

PPLNS, so not all is lost yet. Maybe we find 4 blocks in 4 hours now Smiley

BTW, out of curiosity, how much did you pay per share?
1050  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: February 18, 2012, 05:01:38 PM
If your PSU cables also say 18 AWG someone was clearly dishonest Roll Eyes
The difference is undeniable.

Actually, I never said what was on the PSU cables, and I assumed it to be different since I assumed the labeling on the wires to be correct.
But WTH, you are right, it says AWG 18 on the PSU cables as well, and they are at least 4x as thick!

THis is getting interesting. I can easily see someone cutting corners by using subpar wires, but who else than a producer of wires would actually forge those tiny numbers on the wire that no one ever reads? So it appears some shady supplier of wires ripped off whoever made those adapters, saving a few pennies worth of copper.

Doh!

BTW, I also checked my 2xmolex > PCIe adapters that work fine and it says AWG 20, which is supposedly thinner thatn AWG18. I havent cut them, but I assume they will indeed be thinner than the PSU cables (which are rather massive), but probably at least 2x thicker than the shoddy adapter even if the labeling suggests the opposite.

Im also thinking that whoever made the single molex adapter deliberately bought thicker wires to get away with 1 molex plug, but due to a scam he ended up getting wires that are woefully inadequate.

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If you solder those wires or just go lazy and use wire nuts you should be ok.

I had just finished soldering when the door bell rang and a brand new 850W was delivered. Hadnt expected delivery on saturday Smiley.

But knowing now that those supposed AWG18 cables really are far thinner than they should be, Ill just cut the connector again and throw it away.
1051  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: February 18, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
Indeed, but it does say AWG 18, so you are saying that ought to do?
1052  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: February 18, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
May have found the cause.
The left most 2 wires are from one of those burnt molex>pci-e adapters (and no, I didnt mess up stripping). The right 4 wires are from my PSU's 12V 4+4 pin.



I dont know how to measure the thickness or calculate how many amps those wires can carry, but that looks way too flimsy to me.  Outside diameter is the same though, so no way to tell unless you cut them.

1053  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DIANNA: the IANA Decentralized design concept on: February 18, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
Could you not have some hybrid approach where the dianna data is stored in a separate blockchain, but the blocks are "approved" in the bitcoin blockchain? So you wouldnt store anything in the bitcoin chain, other than a hash of the last known "approved" dianna block.
disclaimer: I have no idea what Im talking about
This will be a big sync problem. Bitcoin chain is quasi-stable and some its part can be rewritten at any time. What to do in this case...

Not sure I understand the problem, but having an external chain (bitcoin in this case) "approve" the dianna chain actually makes it much more flexible. At any point you could decide to switch to another vetting system, say when bitcoin withers away and litecoin becomes the next big thing.

Anyway, like I said, I have no clue what Im talking about, just airing some random thoughts that other people perhaps can turn in to usable ones Wink.
1054  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DIANNA: the IANA Decentralized design concept on: February 18, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Why to overwhelm bitcoin block chain with possible terabytes of domain data? What did Satoshi said about this...

Could you not have some hybrid approach where the dianna data is stored in a separate blockchain, but the blocks are "approved" in the bitcoin blockchain? So you wouldnt store anything in the bitcoin chain, other than a hash of the last known "approved" dianna block.
disclaimer: I have no idea what Im talking about
1055  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: February 18, 2012, 10:36:10 AM
5850 are at 970 and 1.17V

what psu was it?
if the PCIe plug gets hot then there's clearly something wrong, even the best psus can break

Oh its definitely not the best PSU; its an old coolermaster 450W that I salvaged. But it only has to power that 5870 (and a hdd to load the 5v).
Even so, rubbish PSU or not, why would the connector overheat  Huh Voltage appears stable and the 5870 isnt complaining afaict; at least it runs stable, cool and is my best overclocker (does nearly 1.1 GHz at stock voltage). .I could imagine the PSU blowing itself up, but I see no reason for the connector to heat up.

OH well, I changed it so now it only has to power half that 5870 using a double molex adapter and Ill retire it next week.
1056  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU chip degradation on: February 18, 2012, 09:34:56 AM
My ASUS 6950 DCII 1GB seems to be affected at last(1).

The card has been hashing since early September. Since late October the core speed was 942 MHz resulting in 389 MHash/s.
945 MHz would drop the card on its knees in a matter of hours. 942 MHz was stable for months... until this week.
The card hung a few days ago and twice yesterday.
935 MHz has been stable for a day now...

I was fully aware that setting the "cruise speed" so close to unstable clocks left me with no buffer zone - I did that more as an experiment into degradation progression than anything else.

I never liked this particular card much for its forced 125 MHz memdiff and locked core voltage resulting in power use of about 150W and temps in the high 70s.
Still, the degradation rate has been slower than I expected it to be.

Once the card is incapable of pulling 900 MHz I'll give it a second life in some gamer's rig provided no other issues emerge.

Just a data point for anyone interested in the subject.

In a word: electromigration.
You can slow the aging process by trying to reduce your temps. 77C is way above my comfort zone. Getting it down 10C will double your cards life expectancy.
If you have room for a triple slot cooler, I would consider buying one. Most of them are pretty universal, so if the card dies or becomes obsolete, just reuse it for another card.

FWIW, I just installed a Deepcool V6000 on an XFX 5870 @1 GHz with a dead fan.
I bought it for ~$30. Temps dropped from ~70C at deafening noise to 54C and you can not hear the thing with the supplied fans (fixed low speed, they dont connect to the videocard fan header and are therefore not variable, which I do find a problem, but it works well enough it seems).
1057  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci-e connector. Word of warning on: February 18, 2012, 09:23:24 AM

Keep using them at your own peril. At the very least check them.



Yes I did, several times, first time when you created this topic. They did not melt/burn so far and aren't hot.

You are using them on a 5850 right? What clock are you running them at? im running one at 900 the other at 850.

On a sidenote, as I was switching cards on a different rig the other day, I removed a 6pin PCIe plug (no adapter) from one of my older PSUs. It has  a white PCIe connector and it had a brown tint near one of the pins as well. Nothing too serious, but clearly it had gotten hot. This PSU was powering a 5870 @ 1 GHz.

So i began wondering if perhaps underpowered PSUs dropped voltage too much, increasing the amperage, but it measured 11.7V under load.

So Im not sure whats causing it with me  Huh I do know I dont like it one bit.  And that I wish all connectors where white so you can actually see if something is getting too hot or has ever gotten too hot. There is no way to tell with these black connectors until its likely too late.

My new PSU cant arrive soon enough... though Im not sure this really is a PSU problem.
1058  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter.com * Optional Custom Miner, PPLNS, Merged mining, Newbie-Friendly! * on: February 17, 2012, 10:10:04 PM
When GPUmax gets a little bigger maybe I can rent 1000 GH/s for a while to see how it affects the server load. When the pool was doing 320 GH/s I could barely see any load. Gotta love the new server! Cool

Rejection rate with GPUmax still seems a problem though. I briefly saw 18% on the current shift. Ouch. Im assuming its gpumax related since I had 0.0%
1059  Other / Off-topic / Re: [ANN]Legal complaint against bitcoinica.com on: February 17, 2012, 08:36:10 PM
Someone help me understand.


Big difference between
"I demand you make your information public for the safety of all Bitcoin users"

and

"I have submitted a complaint against you to the authorities. Now tell me some information."


As I understood, the OP had made several such requests and got nothing. Maybe I misread that? Even so, fact is even now Zoutoung doesnt even want to say the country his business is registered in (let alone all the other thing his customers ought to know), that should raise red flags and alarm bells all over.

Dont get me wrong, I have no reason to assume he will scam anyone, but I cant see any reason why Zoutoung wouldnt put this information on his website either (AFAIK, he is legally obliged to in several countries, among them Germany). Instead we have a 17 year old wizzkid controlling what most likely is a small fortune in dollars and btc, perhaps more than anyone else in the bitcoin world, and we have no clue who he is, what company is running the show, nothing.

That he says he will say so soon is simply not good enough by any stretch.
1060  Other / Off-topic / Re: [ANN]Legal complaint against bitcoinica.com on: February 17, 2012, 07:41:24 PM
Most jurisdictions allow the public to inspect the physical records (registration/articles of association etc) at the registered address.  There is normally no requirement to provide them free to anyone that asks.  The OP could go to Singapore and view them, if it is a registered business. 

Do we even know where its registered and under what name? I certainly dont.

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