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1101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 13, 2020, 03:30:44 AM
Honestly: How many dead are we supposed to have tomorrow?

it depends ... did the CCP bet on the markets going up or down last night?
1102  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 13, 2020, 03:02:46 AM
Still it's running way behind that original chart we had up here last week.

 Cheesy Cheesy .. still believes CCP data  Roll Eyes
1103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2020, 10:16:32 PM
.... and in the planes department these depreciate 'slowish'. But you need to be a proper pilot ... swings 'n roundabouts.
1104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2020, 09:53:58 PM
I’ll just take a standard Range Rover or something & a huge house Smiley

I would suggest either a truck or an SUV like a Jeep. Something that can run over the nocoiners. Lambos (and most other lowered sports cars) are bad if they don't have any roads or any speed bumps in the way are difficult to avoid.


... i agree, when the corona apocalypse hits you'll need something bigger than a landrover to run over nocoiners

1105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2020, 12:42:25 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cia-secretly-owned-swiss-company-encrypted-over-120-countries-communications
... these spooks are like cockroaches, they're everywhere. Do we need a bioweapon that targets spooks before we can live free again?
The Washington Post has a very well done article on it. I find it hilarious, wonder what backdoors are in all the "cloud" providers....

... or how many spooks got involved in bitcoin?

This guy used to work at Crypto AG (the company in the WaPo article)

https://twitter.com/lucas_lclc President Bitcoin Association Switzerland ... lols  Cheesy
1106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2020, 11:31:12 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cia-secretly-owned-swiss-company-encrypted-over-120-countries-communications
... these spooks are like cockroaches, they're everywhere. Do we need a bioweapon that targets spooks before we can live free again?

1107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2020, 11:15:30 PM
1108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 06:06:45 AM
Big dump..
WTF just happened?

probably just a little profit taking. We're up 25% in 30 days.
1109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 05:59:51 AM
^^^ I agree with much of what you say, it's not clear that bitcoin or gold really benefit in a shtf situation, it depends on the severity. A medium-level hit that upsets the economic apple cart sees safe haven assets do well, in a high severity event that has you scrounging for scraps against your neighbour 'asset' and 'values' become nebulous concepts.

However, in the early stages of exogenous shocks like this coronavirus there is a lot of uncertainty so safe haven assets tend to do well in the short-medium term until things become clearer. Also take note here that there is a subtle difference between a 'flight to safety' and 'flight capital' although they may have overlap.

If you are genuinely fleeing from a effed-up situation, e.g. war, plague, riots, revolution, capital controls, etc and you want to liquidate your assets and take your liquidity with you, or send it on ahead, that is flight capital, bitcoin excels at this function btw, gold is good but heavy and modern border controls (KYC/AML) make it much less useful.

A widespread shift of capital into safe haven assets due to some event or crises in the markets can be called a flight to safety and a range of assets can be useful in those situations.

Bitcoin, imho, is the premiere asset for flight capital today and can also serve somewhat as a safe haven asset, but that is much less proven as it still carries too much risk and volatility to be considered a flight to safety.
1110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 03:31:37 AM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12307276

... airborne confirmed in MSM, because they never run fake news  Roll Eyes
1111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 01:20:38 AM
The SEC doesn’t give a fuck about what happens on the Chinese stock markets. It’s laughable that they would investigate. 

yeah, a lot of stuff on that site seemed off

... but super-entertaining and it's always good to hear all the fringe stuff ... it's how you get to become an early adopter Wink
1112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 01:14:33 AM
They are being supercautious because they don’t know what they are dealing with.

Doesn’t prove or disprove anything.  

Am watching the cases in Western jurisdictions closely.  So far no explosions of infection from the French or German cases.  

Given the amount of air travel from Hong Kong and Singapore, cases currently are surprisingly low.

I agree. Western cases are way lower than what you would expect from airborne transmissions, unless none of the Western cases contracted outside of China and we haven't had our true Western "Typhoid Mary" yet. Those cruise ships are like petri dishes so I don't know how much you can draw from that, but it's spreading like wildfire on there, whatta nightmare cruise.
1113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 12:57:26 AM
https://twitter.com/IsChinar/status/1225642223506579457

... wow, the US health workers on the evacuation flight are wearing fully recirculating (independent oxygen) biohazard suits. Definitely not Just the Flu Bruh.

edit: and backs up the airborne claim.
1114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 12:21:37 AM
https://gnews.org/107513/

Unusual activities before the epidemic
The U.S. government will investigate the stock market manipulations took place before the Wuhan epidemic including (but not limited to):

“Exists” from Stock Exchanges in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Hong Kong.
short-selling
People with knowledge of the viral attack sold a large number of stocks to American, European and Saudis investors. Many people who sold their stocks include Jiang Zhicheng (the grandson of Jiang Zeming, the former president of China), Meng Haijin (the daughter of Meng Jianzhu), and Gao Yanyan, etc.
Li Ka-shing, a pro-CCP tycoon in Hong Kong, unloaded a significant portion of his stock holding after Nov 12, a move he did not take during the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests.
Many Chinese business tycoons have been shorting stocks and selling stock holdings to foreigners while keeping their mouths shut since Nov 12, 2019.


I don't know about the veracity of Miles Guo's theories but we do know that Li Ka-Shing has been heavily involved in bitcoin in the past. If he was exiting Chinese stocks as Miles says then it is possible he was entering bitcoin/gold flight capital assets. There was a good pump in bitcoin mid-late Oct. .... hmmm was that another Li Ka-shing and co. pump?.
1115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 09:47:55 AM
https://gnews.org/miles-guo/

Miles Guo is saying 100% it is a bioweapon that was released by some faction or another inside the Chinese Communist Party. It was meant to be used as false flag to cover for a crackdown on Hong Kong but got out of control almost immediately and the plan backfired, they have opened Pandora's Box. Either the technology was immature, misunderstood (scientist fraudulently boasting they knew how to control it) or a vengeful act by the person on-the-ground releasing it to screw the instigating commanders. The earliest victims were actually 6 CCP staff of the Central Commission of Discipline Inspection who were interrogating the spouse of a suspect and she was infected, they all died and since then the CCP has been in panic mode. Factions within the CCP are in-fighting and vying for power, Shanghai versus Beijing and things are spiralling out of control!

https://gnews.org/107610/

There is evidence that many rich, connected people inside CCP had fore-knowledge of the event as they were selling and shorting stocks massively as early as Nov. 12 2019, including Li Ka-Shing.
1116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 05:07:07 AM

... yes, this is new ... up to now the narrative was spreads in droplets like the flu. wash hands, cover your mouth when coughing and nose when sneezing keep 6 feet separation, etc, etc. If true every droplet can essentially vapourize and spread in a fine dust-like plume wherever the wind takes it, ie. it's far more contagious than the flu, not just a little bit more.

It also explains why they lock-downed Wuhan on relatively low numbers of cases. And the other cities/regions.

Could be BS though, hope it is.

Wouldn't this imply that their was specific foreknowledge of the virus back when iirc the official narrative was they weren't even sure it was human-human transmissible?

I hope it is BS too, and am leaning towards it being BS, because I have never heard of any other contagion that can be contracted at "hundreds of meters"..

No, it's not unheard of this is why measles is so contagious ... it has R_o ~ 14

It's due to specific property of diameter of the virus, it's survival time outside the body, droplet size it is in solution with (type of fluids and coughing induced), air temperature, humidity, air turbulence, etc, i.e. much physics. Measles can spread from one end of a football stadium to another or linger in the air in a room for up 2 hours after being exhaled by the carrier.

edit: and yes would imply foreknowledge.
1117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 04:21:07 AM
I'm not trying to spread fear and panic but forewarned is forearmed ... if this report can be confirmed we're in for a rougher ride than I was imagining.

https://twitter.com/RolandBakerIII/status/1226149513653411840
Quote
Shanghai Municipal Gov. press conforance: #coronavirus aerosol transmission via droplets 0.1mm and below exhaled in a few seconds evaporate in 10ms into droplet cores micrometers in size and can travel hundreds of meters and can can cause infection.

tl;dr airborne contam.
Is this new? How else could it spread so fast.

... yes, this is new ... up to now the narrative was spreads in droplets like the flu. wash hands, cover your mouth when coughing and nose when sneezing keep 6 feet separation, etc, etc. If true every droplet can essentially vapourize and spread in a fine dust-like plume wherever the wind takes it, ie. it's far more contagious than the flu, not just a little bit more.

It also explains why they lock-downed Wuhan on relatively low numbers of cases. And the other cities/regions.

Could be BS though, hope it is.
1118  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 03:54:08 AM
I'm not trying to spread fear and panic but forewarned is forearmed ... if this report can be confirmed we're in for a rougher ride than I was imagining.

https://twitter.com/RolandBakerIII/status/1226149513653411840
Quote
Shanghai Municipal Gov. press conforance: #coronavirus aerosol transmission via droplets 0.1mm and below exhaled in a few seconds evaporate in 10ms into droplet cores micrometers in size and can travel hundreds of meters and can can cause infection.

tl;dr airborne contam.
1119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 01:57:45 AM
... we can't trust the CCP virus numbers. Approx. 500 million chinese are living in something that is looking more and more like a P4 laboratory.

The numbers for rest of the world are following the doubling time given by epidemiologists in mid January, 6~7 days. However, still relatively small; 365 confirmed as at 08-02-2020.
1120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 01:48:46 AM
Link to Harvard prof in sewer? Sounds somewhat odd

... 'sewer' was an embellishment of my own, he was receiving at least US$50k per month (plus other generous bonuses) to set-up a lab in Wuhan identical to his Harvard lab ... and transferring students (and IP) back and forth. And not revealing the monies as required by US/Harvard grants procedures. Chair of Harvard's Chemistry department.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/us-hails-success-lieber-arrest-chilling-china-ties#survey-answer
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/us/charles-lieber-harvard.html
google harvard scientist arrested

Perhaps pointing towards a virus of US/Canadian origin bio-engineered for vaccine research purposes or bioweapon and then sloppily handed to the Chinese labs who've let it get out.

I can imagine them not disposing of animals used for testing in Wuhan fastidiously. Some cleaner on cents per day fishes a bat, rat, rabbit, monkey, chicken, pig or pangolin carcass out of the dead lab animal bin at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and pedals off on his bike to sell it at the Hunan Seafood market in the wild animals section.


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