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421  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 16, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
it really is easy to move gold around. that is one of the whole points of my it has been worth so much for so long.

clearly im not a btc hater at all, but im just here saying that gold is not going away any time soon.

the us dollar and other fiat however might Smiley
422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 16, 2014, 02:33:10 PM

not holding 5% of your net wealth in gold is just foolish if you ask me. im about the 10% mark and think thats a healthy place to be.


There's one big flaw in your reasoning: I'm pretty sure most people don't have a safe and secure way to hold physical gold (especially 5% of their net worth). People cry about the security of crypto but to me it's a hell better to hold when looking at storage costs and costs of theft or loss. I'm sure we agree holding paper gold is no substitute.

Where am I (or most other people for that matter) going to safely store physical bullion?


gold is small and dense. you can hide in in a flower pot, in the water storage area of your toilet, you can wear it around your neck.

most people do not have $100,000 worth of gold they need to store, and if that really is your problem, you have a good problem to have. pretty sure you can come up with something.
 
423  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 16, 2014, 12:05:33 PM
there is no way in the world nigeria will take btc for their oil or ukrain will take btc for their wheat. they will not want govt debt but something real over the last 6000 years, they will want gold!

The problem with gold is you know where it is. If say the BRICs start a new trading block and have a new version of the IMF backed by gold, managing gold reserves becomes a problem if you settle trade deficits in gold and need to transport it by ship the opposing PTB can just sink that ship and destabilize the banking in the trading block. Crypto solves this problem.

The other solution is you keep it with the equivalent of the FED, and over time risk that they lease it out and you are back at the distinction manipulated banking system you tried to escape. So why not just stick with the existing system.

Hello there is this new system! as you say it may break, but if it doesn't, wow it's going to be big.
Unfortunately the benefactors are rather distrusting of it.

my point is, there is no way in the near future nation states will use crypto coins for international trade. since they will not use crypto what will they use?

yes gold is not perfect but it has worked pretty damn well for 6000 years.

what will happen in 50 years? well that is a whole different game... but in 50 years im pretty sure im going to be dead...
424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 16, 2014, 05:50:21 AM
Gold is supremely impractical in the modern world.  Bitcoin solves every problem that gold solves and even some that gold can't solve.

fiat is dead as they have printed up too much and people will lose faith in it. people will then go back to something else, will nations use some new crypto coin to do large international trade? fuck no, they will use oil or gold. gold is a perfect for this, everyone knows where it is, what it is and how much it is worth.


there is no way in the world nigeria will take btc for their oil or ukrain will take btc for their wheat. they will not want govt debt but something real over the last 6000 years, they will want gold!

btc can break or fork or get cracked at anytime. btc is way too new to be the new world standard, in 100 years? or 50 years? maybe... in 5 years? no fucking way.

if we have a 2008 again and cant fix it by printing up money they will just keep printing until they either do buy some more time or print forever.



i love crypto, its is great but Gold is not worthless like some people keep wanting it to be.


its crazy that gold is worth anything at all, but where there is nothing else for international trade, it is what we will have to use.

not holding 5% of your net wealth in gold is just foolish if you ask me. im about the 10% mark and think thats a healthy place to be.


anyway gold will far outlive any fiat around the world today.... and keep in mind btc could break and become worthless at any second... dont keep all your money in one basket... you need some gold in case the massive massive fail that we know will happen happens...  (get some silver too)


goat out...
425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 16, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
I do not understand why you are not long term long gold. You see the money supply going way up and it is only the velocity that is going down. Once velocity even gets back near to normal inflation levels will be insane.

Sure gold could lose 70% of it's value before then, but fiat is dead....


 
426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
CCMF!
427  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 09, 2014, 01:47:05 AM
Well it looks like after all there will be some effort to go after Garr. I honestly thought he had got away with it. Tip of the hat to the guys going after him. Traveling right now but will forward the requested documents ASAP.



Cryptic and unhelpful as usual.

Just wanted Garr to know he is going to go to jail but did not give away the guys personal information as I don't have permission. Going to see if he will post in the thread to get help.
428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 09, 2014, 01:44:51 AM
Gold obvously doesnt have such big dips like bitcoin but in the long run bitcoin will win

I agree with this as well, but there is no point in saying gold is down and btc is up when clearly that is not the case.

I have been trading gold/silver since 2002 and btc since 2010. the thing i noticed in that time is that some times it is good to use btc to buy gold, and some times to use gold to buy btc.

btc does not always go up and gold does not always go down. to say that it does every week, esp in 2014 is just Huh well i dont know what it is. i 100% do not understand why it is being done. anyone with access to a 6 month chart of both btc and gold will know that it is just not true.

429  Economy / Securities / Re: WTS 500 plus shares of AsicMiner on: May 08, 2014, 01:32:46 PM
Gen 3 is shipped and dividends are about to start rolling and he wants to sell now!? lawlz...

did not know that, but then again, not my business.

anyway i know he has the shares and we can use escrow if it is really needed.
430  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-05-07] Silk Road 2.0 Now Larger Than Silk Road Ever Was on: May 08, 2014, 12:54:07 PM
What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

seems reasonable.

tor right now just seems like a govt honey pot.
431  Economy / Securities / WTS 500 plus shares of AsicMiner on: May 08, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
I know a trusted guy who wants to sell 500 plus shares. He is not interested in selling a few at a time so if you want to buy a large amount with out having to move the market let me know and I can hook you up.

Thanks
432  Economy / Securities / Re: Looking to invest on GLBSE. What do I buy? on: May 08, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
AsicMiner is the only GLBSE stock still around?
433  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: May 08, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
oops further:



Gold was 1300 and BTC was 600 the last time you said gold was crashing.

Now gold is still at 1300 and BTC is at 450.


Why do you make these silly claims? Looking at a 3 day chart is just silly when everyone can see a 6 month chart.


I just don't get the point of this.
434  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 08, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Well it looks like after all there will be some effort to go after Garr. I honestly thought he had got away with it. Tip of the hat to the guys going after him. Traveling right now but will forward the requested documents ASAP.

435  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 05, 2014, 05:11:26 AM
scam and scam ,f**k. so many scamers ,why  these jackass not in jail?Huh

It seems no one has the balls to press charges and Garr was smart enough to buy off the people who do.

I will give any lawyer $10,000 in BTC to press charges against Garr for his crimes. If we need to go more than $10,000 I am very open minded and am willing to pay more if that is what is needed.
436  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 05, 2014, 12:29:14 AM
According to garret


lol, like he is a source of truth and honesty here.

well i tried to warn you as soon as i realized this scammers game. clearly since i was in it for so long i still lost a huge amount not only on this scam but a few others Garret was involved with.

anyway his actions will follow him for life.
437  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 05, 2014, 12:24:53 AM
When will cointerra deliver the full contracted amount?

Several questions have just gone ignored.

They did. Garr just kept the units he did not sell to himself at crazy low prices. The market for these is an easy $4,500

438  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 04, 2014, 06:41:49 AM
Quote
The Terraminers have been sold. Part of the payment is clearing escrow right now, another part is waiting for completion.

MP needs to confirm if this was only the first part or the whole thing, but why would I rely on any sort of competence from this new custodian.

His first post here was attacking us so I'm not 100% sure MP is not one of the several 100 socks Garr has.

Anyway as far as I can tell no one is taking legal action against Garr so it looks like he got away clean.

If anyone changes their mind I still will offer $10,000 in BTC to help and also my information about him and what he has done.

Peace
439  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: May 02, 2014, 10:39:28 PM


I think you need to sort out the Goat/Garr discrepancies before anything else happens. It sounds like alot of money is being disputed.

I have proved Garr has lied and stolen money. The share price reflect this.
440  Economy / Securities / Re: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock] on: April 29, 2014, 03:55:56 AM
Quote from: Garr
One Terraminer is being sold back to CT for the purchase price (which is greater than their current retail price so it would be impossible to sell it for more) to pay them for the shipping costs which totaled over $6,000 USD
What does this mean?  Does it mean one Terraminer is being given back to CT to cover previously unpaid shipping costs? Huh

This is illegal. If he is in liquidation he can not just give away our stuff to pay back some selective debts.  

Edit: Also I see you are in a far away place. That is good for you as the law will odds are not bother to get you (assuming you do not come to the USA) but that makes you not exactly ideal to manage our stuff. Garr clearly is the one doing things like giving away our assets. You are just a new tool he is using to communicate.

If you do have control of anything, like BTC please prove it to us. I'm going to assume Garr still has everything.
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