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141  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to trade efficiently? on: December 22, 2017, 03:25:55 AM
The best ways is to learn the movement of bitcoins and altcoins. Usually when bitcoins are pumping the alts are dumping. Right now the alts are pumping but I think it is about to end and we'll likely see another pump on bitcoins. This could potentially lead to a 20k usd price pump since we didn't reach that last time it pumped.
Cryptocurrency has no pattern , it move wild and nearly unpredictable.
Yeaaa it is a consequence of decentralization , everything actually up to us who use the coins.
Just trade with scalping , and set a realistic target. Do it everyday and see the result later.
142  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin dumps down 25% from 20k to 15k whatsup on: December 22, 2017, 03:00:37 AM
It's this sudden ups and downs that shakes off weak hands. Prepare for a thriling ride, I can sense a wild shakeup coming soon.
Yeaaa what i believe is that people mostly withdraw their bitcoin into fiat becsuse of in needs shopping for christmas.
After the new year it might get recovered ( not sure actually ) as if before the new year bitcoin get dropped too much.
People will feel have nothing to do but wait until it reach the lowest.
143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you save money while playing gambling games? on: December 22, 2017, 02:49:34 AM
Yeaa people become crazy when it comes to looking for greater profit in gambling.
There is no ends point when you talk about human satisfaction , be wise to use gamble as an entertainment way.
Take your profit as an extra , entertainment should be your primary target.
All of us want to have great profit but when it comes to gambling I admit the fact that I'm not that intact and doesn't have a stable profit with it. My standing when it comes to making gambling as a profit tool is like a wave, it goes up and sometimes goes down. Saving some profit that you will not intend to use in gambling again is a better way of saving so that it can't go back at the house.
You shouldn't expect to have a steady income from gambling , it will only makes you look dumb.
Yeaaa since everyone know that gambling will never provide you good things , nothing you can expect about making profit.
Save it or not will remain the same , you will get busted and in loss.
Being a gambler yes it will make you dumb but if you are one of those investors on a casino's bankroll you can hope on that one day. And also excluding those gambling site/casino owners as it's sure that if their casino is very popular they can do whatever they want, save money, earn that much and spend in almost everything they want to purchase. There's a difference if you'll save them, you will have something to pull in the future.
Yeaaa when you pull what you have saved , guess what would you do with that money?
Gamble again and of course suffering lost in the end , people vs long term gambling is a sure winning for casino.
Don't know if people dumb enough to get fooled , or simply just the matter of how crazy gambling addiction it is ;( , people keep coming back to gamble .
144  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to overcome the fear of holding? on: December 21, 2017, 03:02:58 PM
I think one way to overcome the fear of holding is to not look at your holdings all the time and just set yourself a limit on when you check your holdings within a week or within the day. And remember always that it is all in your mind, you can control yourself but you just have to set yourself also some limitation.
Yeaaa that's really true , when you look at your investment and it get dropped.
You will have a desire to sell it immediately because of the panic attack , don't do that i suggest about that too.
Just set a goal and stick on it , believe me holding with full of patience won't let you down.
145  Economy / Speculation / Re: John McAfee Predicts a Bitcoin Price of $1M by Late 2020!! Is it feasible? on: December 21, 2017, 02:49:03 PM
Damn even the imagination of Bitcoin touching $1M is pretty scary as just about 100 satoshis would be worth a dollar. With Bitcoin's growth during the course of the current year, it zoomed past all expectations and speculations, hitting $20k even before Christmas and stabilising around that mark. Come 2020, although hard to figure out if we're in the reality, the million dollar mark might be reached if current scalability issues are resolved.
Yeaaa i won't deny about his statement nor support it , everything is so wild in crypto market.
Also mcafee looks so crazy thesedays talking about bitcoin , he is full of energy but also overconfident.
$1M isn't something impossible , bitcoin can make it happen , i just not sure if there soemthing unexpected happened in the future and changes what we have predicted.
146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: December 21, 2017, 02:30:53 PM
Just like everybody else everyone is just so excited to bet on gambling. We always hope to win and when we can win we feel positive to win again. We are sometimes overwhelmed with our emotions that we tend to forget our limits. As for your case I know you leave it in the meantime but as you've said you still get bored sometimes and gambling is your outlet get rid of it. Just remember to have self control and limits in every bet you make.
Yeaaa that is human nature to feel that way , overconfident and still you lost it in the end.
Gambling isn't something that you can expect could bring you a steady income.
So leave gamble when you feel that something wrong happened to you since you do gamble.
147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: December 21, 2017, 01:13:43 PM
I think playing with your profit is a good plan because you will not in the fear mood losing your money so it's helping you get a great mind to make great predictions.
I once won a lot of money gambling and i decided to withdraw the principal i initially started gambling with so that i know that i haven't made any lose, at a period of time i realized that all the money i won previously has been lost back to the casino again had i not done that i would have lost the money i started gambling with all again.
Yeaa sometimes even you are gambling with nothing to lose , it did not has a good result.
The solution is to not expext something big , just do gamble and consider your winning as an extra.
Play with your profit or not actually doesn't matter , what the matter is how your reaction.
148  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How To Make Money From The Bitcoin Crash on: December 21, 2017, 12:29:49 PM
Out of some inevitable corrections (where you can gain a lot, if you know the job), I don't see any crash in the next future.
You can bet that in january a lot of new people will try to jump on the bitcoin wagon, so the price will rise and rise.
Then, we'll see.
Based on my point of view bitcoin cash has no future , it won't grow as high as the real bitcoin.
Indeed for now people frustated on how the transaction processed very slow , it won't last forever.
Sooner or later bitcoin network will get recovered , and those people who switched to bitcoin cash now will get back to the real bitcoin later for sure.
149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do we need to gamble? on: December 20, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
Actually there are many people find their joy and happiness in gambling. So maybe gamble was made to sastified them and people who want to earn easy money.
Actually of course It's no weird anymore till nowadays, it's more giving an impression to eliminate boredom's feel and it seems the longer it has become a tradition for people who have a lot of money in the pocket or who have a balances (some btc,altcs) for gamble in the site or gambling based land.
It is rare really to find someone that get into gambling for fun and no other reason.
Indeed they must have a lot of money to spend and gambling become their choice to get some challenge to push the adrenaline .
That is not something normal but they did it with style.
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in 2018, how much will it worth? on: December 20, 2017, 08:45:14 PM
We are approaching the end if 2017 and many of us wonders on will we see a major rise or fall on the cryptocurrency. By the middle part of 2018 and its last two months how much do you think will bitcoin worth? Thank you very much
Anything at this moment is uncertain because the market is witnessing the situation of increase and decrease in prices simultaneously but the speculations can be made that prices will surge to $40-$50k in the mid of the next year quarter and end of 2018 but one thing is sure it will recover from these obstacles and grow to huge points so just relax and witness the histories to made.
I do believe people expectation is on $100k since bitcoin has shown that from $1,000 to $20,000 isn't hard to reach.
2017 is a golden year , could 2018 become shining as the previous one?
I don't know exactly , noone actually. But if you look at how massive the demands on bitcoin , i will remain confident.
151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Real Casino or Digital Casino. Whats is your Poison? on: December 20, 2017, 08:38:36 PM
Digital/online casino is the best option for me as I can play anywhere anytime without needed to worry to see other people. I also able to play many games in one site only which is not time consuming compared to real casino where I cant find it easily here. There are also sites offers live games which is actually similar to real casino even though I'm not really sure whether they are truly live or not. Smiley
There's a pros and cons , you do gamble digitally then you won't get an awesome atmosphere as satisfying as real casino.
But yeaa you have a benefit with its flexibility when you do gamble digitally , you just need a couple clicks in your phone and your money get doubled.
I will say to gamble in an online casino is more addictive , you can spend a lot of time to gamble .
152  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: i want to double my 1 Bitcoin in 2 days where to invest. on: December 20, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
it's quite impossible. 1 Bitcoin trading is not like trading 0.001 Bitcoin that you can all in your money and gain much profit. But with 1 BTC, it's a big money to all in. and you can lose more money if you all in.
Sometimes if you lucky enough when you invested on certain altcoins , instead having a target of 20% profit within 2 days.
You received 200% profit in just a couple of hours because of the pumping happened massively.
So there's luck factor here , otherwise yeaaa you have to be realistic that it is impossible.
153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 20, 2017, 08:17:07 PM
Sometimes if you gamble and win, you can have extra money for the things you want because for me all my needs, i dont rely source from gambling, it should be prepared from your regular means of living, therefore if i win in gambling its all extras, all for luxury or either i can put to investmemt😃
Sometimes , but when you look at people around they are suffering huge loss mostly.
So your winning might only for temporary and the rest of it always become a nightmare , you get back to zero or even worse.
That is the clear circle in gambling , you do won 1 btc but then lost it in the next day worth 1.5 bitcoin and so on, you guys should wake up .

No one can judge gambling is a good or bad thing because in sometimes it is very useful for our urgent needs but in sometime it gives only loss and tension for us,so gambling with intelligence and experience is a good thing for a gambler.
Just look at the bigger picture , what effect mostly you received by the end of your gambling days.
As i said when you get a good moment it won't last forever , bad things always come after it.
Your life will even better when there is no gambling experience at all.
154  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: December 19, 2017, 11:43:07 PM
I don't think there is a fixed income with bitcoin daily or monthly because bitcoin fluctuates erratically, you can have a lot of profit but you can also lose. My advice if you are a long-term investor is to invest in Bitcoin as the best option because Bitcoin prices are fluctuating over time and difficult to predict.
There is of course! If you can set certain limit on making profit through trading you can make it happen.
Rather than force yourself to make more profit and should ended with greedy.
So just set the target and you might will get a fixed income , pretty simple isn't it?
155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you save money while playing gambling games? on: December 19, 2017, 11:31:29 PM
Yeaa people become crazy when it comes to looking for greater profit in gambling.
There is no ends point when you talk about human satisfaction , be wise to use gamble as an entertainment way.
Take your profit as an extra , entertainment should be your primary target.
All of us want to have great profit but when it comes to gambling I admit the fact that I'm not that intact and doesn't have a stable profit with it. My standing when it comes to making gambling as a profit tool is like a wave, it goes up and sometimes goes down. Saving some profit that you will not intend to use in gambling again is a better way of saving so that it can't go back at the house.
You shouldn't expect to have a steady income from gambling , it will only makes you look dumb.
Yeaaa since everyone know that gambling will never provide you good things , nothing you can expect about making profit.
Save it or not will remain the same , you will get busted and in loss.
156  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Turning crypto into fiat or is that even nessesary anymore! on: December 19, 2017, 11:12:51 PM
I think it's still needed cause there are very few place that everyone can use Bitcoin directly for payment cause Bitcoin is not legalized worldwide so for almost people all over the world they still need to exchange Bitcoin into fiat if they want to use it to buy anything or pay for bill.
Yea, most especially now that the usage of bitcoin is not widespread and hardly will you walk up to 10 stores before you even get the chances of seeing anyone accepting bitcoin for now. Except for countries like Japan so far that has been able to legalize and regulate bitcoin, I really want to believe it must have given some merchants more chance to play around its usage than in places where it is not.
We have the same thought, bitcoin is still not fully accepted world wide so that we still must convert our bitcoin into fiat in order to spend it. Yeah there are some online and offline store that accept bitcoin as payment but ony few. Though in some country like Japan, you were able to use it but it will takes a lot of time for a world to accept it and use it in any kind of transaction.
yeaa it should become a consideration , we cannot spend our bitcoin to get lunch , dinner etc
We still need it at least for now as the merchant is limited , people cannot do much with bitcoin in their daily lives.
Or just simply you should become the pioneer who adopt bitcoin as the payment tool in your own store.
so I always say that bitcoin this currency only for a certain range of people. in the first place there is no infrastructure for use bitcoin as payment tools, and the second it will be rarely, because most of the human will not be able to use bitcoin.
That's not true , bitcoin is for everyone. Just the matter of time bitcoin get developed well.
The potential of bitcoin to grow its utility still far from what satoshi as an inventor expected for sure.
We just need a little bit more time to make people can really take a look into bitcoin usage how important it is in the future.
157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will surpass $500,000 by the end of 2018 on: December 19, 2017, 11:04:17 PM
Bitcoin can't reach $1 million per coin for sure within next few decades but if it will remain alive or in limelight than it can surpass that level after all bitcoin will be mined.

Also $500,000 by end of 2018 is just a over speculation. I think $50k around will be new ATH price for 2018.
Delusional! $500k within few weeks is of course not realistic with that random data.
Even $50k i will say it is hard , bitcoin even struggle to comeback to $17,500 and $18,000 how you can say something like that.
Let's be realistic , close this year with $19,000 is a gift , close this year with $50,000 it is miracle!
Yesterday, the eth began to fall. It may be that the reason that people sell their coins and buy bitcoin. If this happens we will see a short-term surge in prices. This may be 19-20K dollars. But then I agree that the end of the year we will meet with about 18-19K$. Bitcoin champion of the year. I hope that the next year will be even better.
Your speculation seems wrong , the price of ethereum tend to stable in bitcoin rates.
And even increased in usd rates , people still have a faith in ethereum equal a faith to bitcoin maybe ....
So it wasn't the reason why bitcoin can still go up to 20k$ by the end of this year to fall or corrected later in the new year?
158  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Features Do You Desire In A Trading Platform on: December 19, 2017, 10:53:38 PM
People can withdraw their money with a large amount even if they are not verified, nice and understandable graphics and also friendly user interface and has support system which is very fast to response in the users query.
An exchange usually under certain regulation and it is a must o do KYC , you will never find the one who can proccess a large amount of money with full anonymity.
Really a hard feature to be realized , if someone can make this happen , criminals will come there for the sake of money laundering.
Keep dreaming about that , i am sure noone can really create such feature in a trading platform.
159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: December 19, 2017, 10:45:09 PM
Gambling hasn't anything wrong about it if you aren't doing no good for anyone  , since you are gambling in YOUR free time with YOUR money and enjoying YOUR self so there isn't anything wrong about that . Same money can go to drugs/alcohol or other notorious things for the health and the society so i'd rather it goes to gambling than those things .
Yeaaa since gambling isn't considered as a criminal action , at least even you get addicted it won't as bad as drugs addiction.
In that case gambling might could be a better thing but sure more better when you gamble occasionally.
Actually it always depends on each of us , different circumstances could defines gambling different too.
160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 19, 2017, 03:09:26 PM
In my opinion, there's no way to control greed. It's a normal in human nature, you only need to have moderation of being greedy. All of us are greedy when it comes to money or bitcoin but we should not show it to others so that it will not make us look that we are truly greedy. Just don't be showy to others you are fine to become greedy.


Indeed greed is a part of human nature but we for sure can control it. What we can't do with greed is when we want to rid it from our mind.

I don't think it is that simple.. It's easy to say that you can control when you are rarely put in a position where it is really tested. It's hard to get rid of it completely as well, that much is true but yeah, controlling it is more or less impossible if you are really stuck in it.
Noone can control the greed when it comes to gambling i guess.
The feeling that make money in easy way also so quick always push you to play more and more until you get lost.
People know already about that risk unfortunately hard to avoid that kind addiction , it is a sickness i can say.

I beg to disagree, there are people who can control themselves when it comes to gambling, from betting, and quitting.  Though I can say there is only few but at least not all who play gamble cannot control themselves.  I have seen people who stop whenever time for their break is up and continue with their work.  Other can quit when they are winning and can left the table anytime they wanted.  It really needs a lot of discipline but when mind is determined there i no one can stop it.
The 'noone cannot control bla bla bla' is just part of my affirmation that mostly won't resist to deal with the greedy.
Not all of course ! You do understand now? Gambling is so attractive with its huge winning offered ahead.
But the reality always far from the expectation , you get it wrong about gambling. You will always losing control here.
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