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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet?
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on: November 03, 2017, 04:30:06 AM
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Tricks are not exist, cause the house already fix all the ways to those tricks. So i guess your question is unanswernable. Cause it's not worked at all unless you're cheating. But the house won't pay if you're cheating.
It is exist , just the matter how effective it is make you always win? I don't think there is a legitimate trick that could really give you win by win everytime you play. I won't pay for even a cent to get any paid tricks , a suggestion from other people to do some tricks just a random pattern that they have found and nothing to do to make you win. If there's even a trick that would always guarantee a win, it's probably illegal or you're going to be stepping on other players which would be unfair. Simple "tricks" by regular people probably works only for then and not all the time That is what i mean , there might a lot of non-legitimate tricks could always make you win. But yeaa it is make you a cheater such as a trick to exploit the bugs instead report them to the casino operator. Don't fall into it , you prefer to gamble without any tricks and get your winning unexpectedly as always. |
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games?
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on: November 03, 2017, 04:18:02 AM
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No, but it does get to be a lot of fun when the money starts hitting. There is nothing like that first big hit, when you turned pretty much nothing into a nice little return. If it wasn't fun at some points you might just do something else, well, not really, lol. But, the fact is that it is something far removed from what would be considered work.
In my opinion, trading as a game uses our money to pay the loss. Of course, when you see trading as a game, you can not focus and disregard your capital. It is bad and you should not see it only a game normal, because it is important and your money can lose at here. Yeaa it feel like we are gambling sometimes with the market volatile and move almost randomly. More than just a fun game , trading gives you a huge responsibility . I take trading as a legit way to make profit , and that goal for me is not a game at all nor fun. |
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin?
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on: November 02, 2017, 04:31:14 PM
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nope I actually put it up on wide variety of altcoins that I personally think has a potential , placing all of it on bitcoins was not a good idea for me I could actually triple or double my money within a week on a certain altcoins. I suppose it was not applicable to bitcoins so I tried it on altcoins some works and on some I lost . It was very risky but I think it was worth it considering how big the returns I could probably get from there.
I even think that it is always better to put my money in bitcoin rather than into other coin. Simply bitcoin much more promising, has more potential and stronger in every aspect . Let's see in the next |
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Economy / Marketplace / Re: Turning crypto into fiat or is that even nessesary anymore!
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on: November 02, 2017, 04:18:13 PM
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exchange cryptocurrency into fiat is no needed if your country legalized cryptocurrency already. But in countries that cryptocurrency is not legalized yet, people still have to exchange it into fiat and it's the only way to use in here. Beside there are few countries banned cryptocurrency that mean nobody can be able to use currency or even exchange it into fiat  ) The point is on how we can live with bitcoin or not and the answer nowadays you cannot do that. You need fiat in order to buy stuff and your daily needs , we are having big problem on adoption growth . Once there is a lot of store accept bitcoin to fulfill our daily needs, i will never exchange my bitcoin and just keep and spend it. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong?
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on: November 02, 2017, 04:07:53 PM
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Gambling with bitcoin is not wrong and it is a good choise Than should gambling with fiat i am prefet ro gambling with bitcoin It is anonymous and easy to purchase Why do you think that gambling using bitcoin is not wrong with both bitcoin and fiat is money and if you are abusing the use of bitcoin or lets say you've wasted a lot of bitcoin just because of gambling then that's a wrong move for you because instead of keeping it as investment to gain profit you waste it with gambling. Okay we might have different perception about how to gamble no matter it is use bitcoin or not as wrong. Let's talk about gamble in general , did you heard good things about gambling more than the bad things in our daily live? It could be a parameter to consider whether gambling is wrong or not. That's my opinion. It's simple to know whether gambling is wrong or true. I think because gambling gives more negatives than positive things means gambling is useless for us, and doing useless things is wrong. So gambling is wrong with me, because more things are useless than useful. In the end people will always look at gambling as a wrong thing mostly i am sure. And yeaa nothing good when it comes to gambling based on public opinion . If then gambling considered as a fine thing i guess a lot of people will come there and making money easily without have to feel shameful. For me, gambling could only be bad when we try to gamble more as we need to and we gamble money that we can't afford to lose. But as long as we are only spending a little money and just play for fun and entertainment after a hard days work, then that is fine. I just not sure if you can survive avoiding gamble addiction , as the more often you play the more vulnerable you are. But yeaaa it is worth to try to do that , rather than consider gambling as a source of income. The worst idea indeed , however you will always recognized as a useless citizen when it comes to gambling in general , that is the law of public opinion. |
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading?
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on: November 02, 2017, 03:51:12 PM
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I tried my level best to be successful in trading but some thing is lagging so most of the trading end with disappointment only. I should not blame trading it is purely my mistake only for sure but I am not able to find it once I find it might be I will be more successful in trading and that time might I make good profit.
Hmm, you need to know also that trading requires energy and mind focus 100%. because if you don't focus just a few seeds of sand then the results obtained would be different. Because trading is showing live data and will never be at play in some time. Main weapon is in fact trading analysis and control yourself, if you can do that then it's certainly brings is a great advantage. Because the analysis can give us the possibility the best thing Always easy to talk theorically , but not practically . Do this , do that , avoid this and avoid that etc , the real situation always ignore everything that you have learned before. The plan went messed up and you do disappointed eventually , people mostly struggling to get profit in trading and that is the fact based on the data available everywhere. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way?
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on: November 02, 2017, 03:40:48 PM
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Just set limits you should follow and don't bypass them otherwise you may have serious problems
This is some serious and efficient way for playing. But for gambling even if you limit yourself, still in that limit portion too, you will fall and losses will be in your account. Gambling is not good even if you are doing nothing in casino, it will make you addict when you saw more money coming for one time. So better is, limit yourself from gambling and go for some other sources of income. There is no way for you to gamble in smart way but to quit gambling right after your winning. That is what i consider as smart way , because whenever you get a winning you will lost it again sooner or later. So just think again about how you can be smart if you continuously gamble such as an addict. You will lose if you don't quit for good, even if you temporarily quit with a profit you will still gonna come back again the next day to play. That's how we think, we always aim for more and if we have a good winning streak we think we have figured out how to win consistently until we get greedy. As long as you have a strong will , i don't think you will come back to gamble again. I mean when you really have cashed out a big amount of money from your previous winning , why you have to risk your money again? You need to have a self control and a careful decision , that is the key . |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I try to win back my loss?
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on: November 02, 2017, 03:13:17 PM
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Just to update you guys, as I have stated in the thread previously I broke even with the sports bet, I also won on FJ I have hit their jackpot yesterday  So, considering I lost on 1: 60 000 and 1 : 120 000 in a span of 10 minutes, I also hit a 1 in a 10 million jackpot with a total of 600k bets, so I guess the tables have turned and the lack of fortune initially has been credited to me with interest That's what people call as a real luck , and a lot of people come to casino for that right? Good for you , you have achieved something that not much people can get it , don't make us jealous please  . In the end it is up to you to make a decision to go for this chasing your loss back mission or not , i just think the percentage of those people who do this successfully is really low. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good?
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on: November 02, 2017, 02:54:11 PM
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Try to find things which is much more important than gambling. Its very hard to stop if you really prioritize gamble. Try to slowly erase it and fill it with your new discovered things and make it your hobby. Be persistent and patience, as time goes by, you will be slowly not craving for it and will be much more into your new hobby. I hope that the one you choose to replace the gambling should produce good result and not harm your self so that you can have a much more better life.
It is even hard to find something that you like and change it with gambling. If we keep gambling that means we like to gamble that is why it will be hard for us to get out of this. If we cant get out of it then dont strain at all but better to take it slowly like me. I dont really play alot anymore but I am still playing although with only small amount for fun It is a mental problem for sure , you need help from an expert in that field, that is my opinion. As no matter how many times you try to avoid and looking for a distraction , an addiction is a real big problem that you cannot handle it by yourself. Go to an expert if you feel keep repeating the same mistake to get back to gamble again and again. |
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what do you think about pump and dump?
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on: November 02, 2017, 02:29:40 PM
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I apologize for repeating myself, but it is clear that many people don't understand what "pump and dump" means. I am concerned that they don't know it is a scam and they are likely to fall for it. "Pump and dump" (P&D) is a form of microcap stock fraud that involves artificially inflating the price of an owned stock through false and misleading positive statements, in order to sell the cheaply purchased stock at a higher price. Once the operators of the scheme "dump" sell their overvalued shares, the price falls and investors lose their money. ...
While fraudsters in the past relied on cold calls, the Internet now offers a cheaper and easier way of reaching large numbers of potential investors through spam email, bad data, memes, and fake news.
A pump group is a pump-and-dump scam.
An alert service or channel is a pump-and-dump scam.
Don't be a victim. Let me help to bump this information. Yeaa people got trapped on a misconception about the pump and dump , the real definition is exactly like what you stated above quoting wikipedia explanation. Pump and dump is a tricks of trade where some group spread the false info expecting people believe on it and drive them to buy or sell without thinking clearly. It is completely a trick that basically considered as a "scam" attempt , but people fall into a wrong direction about this p&d. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling??
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on: November 02, 2017, 02:16:01 PM
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Obviously not. If trading was gambling, then all the wall street offices would shut down after being in loss, because no one will invest money into them if it is considered as trading. There is just risk, which is true for a lot of things in life. Its just not a pure gamble.
I agree with you, maybe gambling and trading has money involve but the result is different. Gambling result in the end is zero, unlike in trading that has sure profit. And if we become addicted in gambling we always want to play even we have no money, we always want to come back for chances of winning or back some lose money. And if we become addicted in trading the result is good, because if we stop from the failures/mistakes we did not reach our aim especially in bitcoin that gives huge profit to the trader. I don't agree with you about trading is a sure profit , there's a lot of people who suffering huge loss in trading. And even for some people trading are still not profitable especially when you do it without preparation . I mean there is a big difference when you trade with a proper analysis and when you trade on picking a buy/sell positiin based on nothing but your feeling in hope to get a luck. That time you do gamble on the market. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
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on: November 02, 2017, 06:53:57 AM
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I am often late from work due to gambling. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
Yeah I did experience to late from schoo due to gambling especially on my newbie days. I used to gamble to earn profit however, instead of winning I always lose yet late from my school. Hence, decided to stay away from it and find another way to earn income and then I found out this forum. And so far my current life is much better compared before. I do not think that there will be a single person who play gambling regularly and still he can claim that he never lost time from work or school due to gambling, for me in very early days it was a routine but latger one when become mature then i understand the situation and start gambling in a limit, which in fact prevent me from losing more money and also time. Yeaaa considering gambling it is harmful and really hard for anyone to stop. people mostly will sacriface everything for gamble. It is an addiction , makes you looks like not a normal person , i mean to let things turn messed up even you know already about that. Don't know what could make people avoid that addiction , i personally just gamble for once or twice in a month and so far so good , i did not feel lost too much time. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ?
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on: November 02, 2017, 06:42:54 AM
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Nope I really don't play slot games on online casino since the probability to win is low ,Unlike some dice games which you can adjust your probability to win slot games does not give me that option . It was really a waste of time and I only do it if they offer me some free spins but more often than not I don't really play slots.
Same here, I don't play slots games because they are too risky compared to other gambling games. I think it's a waste of money and time. In gambling i just like to play real games, which my chance is very high there and i can predicit very well using my experience. I don't think any experience could really influence your winning chance to become higher. It is gambling you know , where everything so random no matter what game you are playing . Slot itself riskier more than any games because of its huge prize offered , your $10 could become $10,000 ! And people looking for that kind luck in slit. I agree with you that not any experience can influence winning chances.. but how do you reckon that Slot games are more risky than other games? If you compare what you bet and what you can win I'm not so sure that's the case.. I'd love to see some statistics on it though. Just look at the odds for you to win the game there , how much the house edge there? It is around 20%. Now compare it to the house edge of games such as dice , it is 1% . Blackjack below 1% , craps below 0.9% and video poker around 5%. You can see that information everywhere as it is based on legitimate researches , the bigger prize then it must has high odds and house edge , in this case slot games offering you a jackpot! |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop?
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on: November 01, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
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We all know gambling is addicted, and it's dangerous too.But if we don't want to be empty hand then we should control doing gambling.I always start gambling with low amount which I can afford to lose.I stop gambling when my balance is over.Another thing is, I use alarm clock.Became it's helps me to stop gambling after 30-40 minutes.Also we can seek help from our patents or sis-brother.
1st time I am hearing that someone is putting an alarm to stop playing gambling great idea mate. That means you will fully involve in playing games. I think it is not a good way to stop your game, you chances to lose everything before your alarm ring. So limit your amount, load the amount to your wallet how much you can afford this will stop you at the right time. I think it could not work , as you might lost your whole bankroll before the time up. Not a good way to know the time to stop , really a weird idea for me personally. You will always stop to play randomly , no matter how you make a plan , gambling will force you to keep playing at some point. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting?
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on: November 01, 2017, 10:23:56 AM
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Because, no more fun activities other than gambling. Activities of people who have alot money for wasted. Especially if lullaby will get jackpot, then addicted that happened. Unless, no money is risked then gambling becomes a good fun.
Your not making sense here. There are lots of much fun activity aside from gambling. If you go out play ball, drink in a bar, kiss a girl. Those are better if you would ask me. Gambling is not a healthy activity at all. There are many other ways of killing your time besides gambling. Gambling is not a healthy activity at all, it is just good in the beginning when you’re re winning some money. If you keep playing it, you are going to become an addict within no time and without any warning. Obviously there are many other games and activities which are healthier than gambling and examples you have given are correct. I think gamling isn't about fun but about excitement , people always overexcited when it comes imagine a huge prize. Instead they get achieved what they have expected before. It is always give them a bad things no doubt , but because of gambling addiction they are keep chasing that non sense goal to keep get a winnning. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which Sport Do u Like to Bet?
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on: November 01, 2017, 09:58:28 AM
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Usually the sport we use for betting is the sport we understand most and most we follow the development. And that kind of sport for me is football. Until now soccer is the most exciting sport for me to witness, so it's my answer to soccer.
I totally agree with your stance on the issue at hand that's why I am always into betting with soccer, I sometimes bet on tennis as well because I know a lot about the players and it's easy to research their past games and who would win in the end. Yeah, that is reasonable though I remember last year that there is a shocking game when an underdog won a match. That kind of winnings will be affecting our bets. Though it just happens sometimes. I bet on Dota 2 teams, it is considered sport now. It is good and cool because if you know much of that team, you don't even need to analyze it. The edge are there in sportsbetting , an odds @1.01 lost against an odds @100 or even more. And time people will think that there is no difference in the end when it comes to gambling no matter it is sports or whatever game it is. Luck should be there otherwise things will always gone wild unexpectedly. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet?
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on: November 01, 2017, 09:43:30 AM
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Tricks are not exist, cause the house already fix all the ways to those tricks. So i guess your question is unanswernable. Cause it's not worked at all unless you're cheating. But the house won't pay if you're cheating.
It is exist , just the matter how effective it is make you always win? I don't think there is a legitimate trick that could really give you win by win everytime you play. I won't pay for even a cent to get any paid tricks , a suggestion from other people to do some tricks just a random pattern that they have found and nothing to do to make you win. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins
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on: October 31, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
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Mostly people can have more loses than wins but some have more wins than loses. But the problem is even they're having wins more than loses but after all their balance is still minus . Why ? Because they won small bet and lose big bet. That's the problem .
THere are more people who lost more than those who have won. Probably because those people who won more are those who can limit themselves properly better than those who lost more. Why they lost more then what they earn in gambling means they all are addicted gamblers and also they can't control their greediness in gambling because of this reason i thin they lost their money. Greed is curse, we all read in our school and that is only the reason for all gamblers. Whatever they told you about why they got into it and why they became addict, still everything comes toward the only sole reason, the greed of money. They win once, there amount is tripled and even more, greed just showed up and they play again. They loss and they play again to get more. People who gamble will never accept loses , they only want to win right? . And that is a wrong thought really , the thought like that come from your greedy indeed . No wonder there's a lot of people keep playing even though you have achieved more loses. It is not normal in general but really normal in gambling. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong?
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on: October 31, 2017, 06:56:58 AM
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Gambling with bitcoin is not wrong and it is a good choise Than should gambling with fiat i am prefet ro gambling with bitcoin It is anonymous and easy to purchase Why do you think that gambling using bitcoin is not wrong with both bitcoin and fiat is money and if you are abusing the use of bitcoin or lets say you've wasted a lot of bitcoin just because of gambling then that's a wrong move for you because instead of keeping it as investment to gain profit you waste it with gambling. Okay we might have different perception about how to gamble no matter it is use bitcoin or not as wrong. Let's talk about gamble in general , did you heard good things about gambling more than the bad things in our daily live? It could be a parameter to consider whether gambling is wrong or not. That's my opinion. It's simple to know whether gambling is wrong or true. I think because gambling gives more negatives than positive things means gambling is useless for us, and doing useless things is wrong. So gambling is wrong with me, because more things are useless than useful. In the end people will always look at gambling as a wrong thing mostly i am sure. And yeaa nothing good when it comes to gambling based on public opinion . If then gambling considered as a fine thing i guess a lot of people will come there and making money easily without have to feel shameful. |
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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: lost and struggle of trading.
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on: October 31, 2017, 06:43:20 AM
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Yeah it can be be very difficult, sitting in front of the computer for hours is boring, a bot might help, but you need to keep checking to make sure it is doing its job properly.
Also getting out of a trade with a loss is always hard on the mind and is the biggest challenge for all traders, you find yourself telling yourself to wait a but, the price will soon change in your favour, then it gets worse, you dump, only for it to swing back towards the direction you waited forever for.
You don't have to monitor it all day long , just set your buy position and sell position . The rest of it is just about your patience and just take a look to the market for once or twice sometimes. Don't put the money that you cannot afford to lose , tradings sometimes have a high risk. |
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