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361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: October 31, 2017, 05:50:47 AM
Gambling and investing are two different things so it's hard to compare. Gambling is a game that usually depends on luck and most people do it for fun. Invest is business. It needs planning and budget. For me investing is my choice.

It is not that different to compare if we are comparing on which is the better investment tool to grow your wealth. As for gambling, it is definitely not cause the exchanged profit is always negative. As for investment, if you do the basic, the change of your investment can grow with a chance of 90%.
Though both have the capacity to make you rich, with gambling there is a huge risk involved because if care s not taken, you may end up losing everything and quickly if i may add, But with investing though you also stand the chance of losing everything, if you diligently invest, you may make more than you even anticipate.
In gambling rich shouldn't be your primary purpose as it won't profitable but only give you an unexpected big winning.
So just gamble only the extra amount of money you have for the sake of  looking for your luck.
Pretty different with trading where you can always expect to get profit in the long run just depends on how good your skill analyze the market.
362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: October 31, 2017, 05:38:19 AM
There are people who are studying well and doing their strategy to win gambling one is studying math, For me math is one of my strategy to win the gamble and its true it helps, but not at all time, Because of the gamble  
when something bad comes from you even good and lots of strategy you will be defeated. because gambling is just always the loser, you will win this game when you are lucky. Do not rely on luck to win just make you strategy.

If you are a professional gambler you can use that strategy that you are saying. It is hard to use strategy using Math, Math most of the time is problem solving, but Math is all around, we can see it every day of our Life. Math can help us when playing gambling, depend on your strategy, sometimes it is helpful, sometimes it’s not.
I think yes but not in all the games, because some games are just by chance. Maths can help only in the games of numbers like lottery tickets. I also play the same game. I buy a ticket and the number is selected by me and all is about a routine formula. If I make a good game according to the previous result I can win a lottery otherwise in ten thousands numbers I have just one chance to win.
Lol i even assume if you do the math you will avoid to gamble at all.
You know it is because of its -EV , in the long run gambling mathematically will burn you down slowly.
Nothing can help you to win in gambling but luck , believe that math is so accurate with its probability , wake up from your dream!
363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: October 31, 2017, 05:17:09 AM
I always staked the lottery but never won, then i decided to do sports gambling because most of my friends were into it and they were actually winning so i decided to get involved as well. In my first bet i placed a small amount and made some good money and that got me hooked up very well. Since then its been a series of losses with some wins in between them.
Since people around me love to watching sports they mostly start to gamble on sportsbetting.
And i think people anywhere favorited to gamble on sports , after that you will know another games such as card games poker etc.
At first time you might always feel so lucky , win the game here and there.
If we do win on our earliest days on playing gambling it would really make us feel that we are lucky but those are just normal chances but later on you would really got frustrated because you will break your expectations on making money.As a gambler you would eventually discover gradually new games on the field but well this would really still vary on your interest either on casino games or sports betting or card games.
Yeaa it is just based on my experience around my environment here.
I have seen a lot of people get started to gambke because they are a big fan of certain sports and decide to place a bet on them for fun.
But then as time goes by they are mostle hooked to do that continuously.
364  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What to do when the market is full of red on: October 29, 2017, 11:21:18 PM
Depends on the type of the altcoin. Some altcoins which have a proper purpose can still be traded every when they're red but shitty altcoins is the tough luck here. I prefer selling at a small profit or no profit and other half should be hodling.
Actually red doesn't mean it is bearish and just make the market going down.
Sometimes that dump is a tricky one before the price to bounce back.
Just make sure you do your own research , and maybe ask for some experts help around you for an advice deal with the market ciuld be a good idea.
365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can gambling give you lessons in life? on: October 29, 2017, 10:44:00 PM
Yes, by the time I realize that it won't make me a 10btc holder in anytime. I've realize that I've wasted so much time, funds and effort. I should have 5btc or more if not because of gambling. If only, I valued the btc i'm receiving and didn't  take a risk in any gambling games. Gambling isn't the only answer in having decent amount of btc. Don't get excited in having big amount, getting rich takes time.
Regret is not a lesson by the way , do a real action such as stop gamble forever?
When you think gambling has affected you much in bad way , just stop it and don't come back.
Not sure there's a lesson for real when it comes to gamble , all is just about regretful.
366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: October 29, 2017, 10:31:45 PM
I have never been ashamed of being a gambler because i don't care what people think or say about me and it was not their money i am using to gamble. this is the way that i enjoy and to sometimes release my stress even sometimes gambling is a stressful game especially when you lose.

That's a good mindset you have there, being a gambler is a personal choice and there is nothing wrong about it. Many people who gamble just for fun and entertainment as long as you are a responsible gambler who has self control and not greedy.

It is okay if we are not embarrassed by gambling, but if the image that formed because of our gambling activity can harm or give bad impact to ourselves, it would be better if we do not show it to everyone. We must consider the opinions of most people especially that comes from people around us.
It is indeed gambling harmful in general , and that is what makes people around you did not like anything involve gambling.
And usually with that kind situation you will feel so shameful because of an environment around that not gambling friendly.
So just get used to it , if you can survive to feel that way then no problem go ahead.
367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 29, 2017, 10:13:05 PM
Just set limits you should follow and don't bypass them otherwise you may have serious problems
This is some serious and efficient way for playing. But for gambling even if you limit yourself, still in that limit portion too, you will fall and losses will be in your account. Gambling is not good even if you are doing nothing in casino, it will make you addict when you saw more money coming for one time. So better is, limit yourself from gambling and go for some other sources of income.
There is no way for you to gamble in smart way but to quit gambling right after your winning.
That is what i consider as smart way , because whenever you get a winning you will lost it again sooner or later.
So just think again about how you can be smart if you continuously gamble such as an addict.
368  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 27, 2017, 06:19:21 AM
For me this is true. Trading is really unpredictable in some ways. Many traders are somehow having a hard time when the market is somewhat unstable. And that makes it so unpredictable. But some trader are just relying on news and such so that their coin will pump. This is why in trading TA is reliable but sometimes not becuase of the instability of the market.
Unpredictable for those people who don't have knowledge enough.
So yeaa they just make a random prediction and the result they feel trading is so hard annd unpredictable most of the times.
Learn more about how to read the charts and another technical strategy to reach the goal making trading predictable just like an expert.
369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 27, 2017, 06:07:35 AM
If someone is really addicted, the only way to quit to go to a psychiatrist that will give him a plan that keeps him away from gambling. If you're still new in gambling you should learn to control yourself and set limits for yourself to avoud getting addicted because it dangerous and may affect your job and social life.

I agree with you, anything that can be very addicting is so hard to quit may it be alcohol,drugs or gambling. A person with this kind of addiction needs a professional help like a psychiatrist, because I believe it will help them control their self and its also important that they can get a support from their significant others. Maybe quitting is hard but you have to try harder and practice self control and discipline.

Yeaa all of them influence through mental and physical , except gambling that causing a serious mental illness.
You cannot consider gambling addiction as an usual issue , it could affect your whole personal life , change it into the world that you never imagine.
The last choice is to get a professional help indeed , they have been proven working.
370  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the risk of holding Bitcoin? on: October 27, 2017, 05:55:49 AM
Risk is you can lose much money, but if no risk you no earn more money. Sure!

And you maybe look and earn more about bitcoin and politics all about them.
Absolutely, if you don’t take risk, believe me there will not be any profits for you. Or even if you somehow get lucky and you get your profit that will not last for long time. So better is to take risks but take them with much care.

You must have known the basics of that business, keep calculating the whole scenario and then take wise decisions. Risks are ultimately turned to profits.
I don’t think so there is any risk in holding bitcoin in your offline wallet for a long time.
Bitcoin keeps on increasing in value and I have seen many people becoming rich in short time just by holding bitcoin. We should not listen to those who are against holding bitcoin for long time. In the crypto market, holding of bitcoin is the most successful method of making money without any risk at all.
Mostly those people who become rich through holding bitcoin is those who forgot they have bitcoin stored in the old wallet.
And the amount is hundreds/thousands bitcoin , once they realized the price has skyrocketed they dig it and found it worth millions of dollars .
Basically those kinds people did not take a risk , but more to an accidental investment , yeaaa a lot of good story come from early adopters , you might can follow the way they make an investment.
371  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Patience and Holding on: October 26, 2017, 01:57:55 PM
The past few days are the times when your patience and holding is being tested. If you can withstand the pressure to Sell below Buying price. What I did was not look at Blockfolio app, I was even tempted to remove it from my smart phone so that I will not worry about my investments. Its actually one of the reason why we keep worrying about our investments, its because we have easy access to know how much they are currently worth. Unlike your investments in traditional banks where a lock-in period is followed. 
Always feel so proud when you successfully make a correct prediction to hold when the market crash.
And then the price back up to the highest makes you be able to sell in expected value.
A careful analysis required here to make sure you are not in trap pump/dump.
372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 26, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
In both cases we have to risk our money and at the end we get profit or lose. So the input and outputs are same.But Gambling is totally depend on the luck factor whereas trading is based on the knowledge. The main problem is we do trade without analysing the market or on based of our limited knowledge and that is nothing but gambling.
Things make people consider trading as gambling is because of sometimes you feel everything there is about money game.
I mean you stake your money to predict the price and you stake your money to guess what color appear in roulette for example.
Both staking money and both predicting future right? The difference is only on the process making these predictions.
That is only one aspect which you have mentioned here. Prediction and risk are involved in both activities but that does not make them alike. Trading is a respected profession and it has really produced more rich people than poor ones while gambling is the cause of majority’s suffering.

The success rate of gambling is very low because it is all about luck whereas trading involves skills also. Traders make profits by not wild guessing.
That is true , people will look at you fine when you tell them you are a trader.
But guess what their reaction when you tell them that you are a professional gambler? The impression for them will of course so bad.
Just choose you want to take a less risk with good impression or high risk and bad impression both similar but doesn't mean is same.
373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: October 26, 2017, 01:25:12 PM
Its really hard to give up gambling specially when you are gambling for so long and gambling has been part of your daily life.
I think you need you need to seek some help or sent your mind on some other activity to in order for you to really let go of your gambling habits.

then i think that person is addicting in gambling games because no matter he's try to stop from gambling, he always come back to the gambling place. and if this is the problem, then i think he will need other people to help him so this person can solve his problem in gambling. but there is not many people that want to share their bad habit to other people because they can feel its not good or they are just afraid that other people can judge him and will stay away from him.

Yes, it is very hard to stop gambling while we already addicted. Other's help, from close friends or family members, may work better for some people. If you have a friend or relative who needs help to stop gambling, try to force him to do other stuffs outside gambling as often as possible. Although this method will take times, but gradually this could help.
Yeaa a pressure to heal your gambling addiction from someone you fear such as your girlfriend or parents maybe can accelerate your exit way from gambling.
And close every access into your money directly could be a good idea too.
So you cannot do anything except asking for permission and with that way your intensity to gamble will get decreased.
374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 26, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
Gambling with bitcoin is not wrong and it is a good choise
Than should gambling with fiat i am prefet ro gambling with bitcoin
It is anonymous and easy to purchase Smiley
Why do you think that gambling using bitcoin is not wrong with both bitcoin and fiat is money and if you are abusing the use of bitcoin or lets say you've wasted a lot of bitcoin just because of gambling then that's a wrong move for you because instead of keeping it as investment to gain profit you waste it with gambling.
Okay we might have different perception  about how to gamble no matter it is use bitcoin or not as wrong.
Let's talk about gamble in general , did you heard good things about gambling more than the bad things in our daily live?
It could be a parameter to consider whether gambling is wrong or not. That's my opinion.
375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Game Bankroll Question on: October 26, 2017, 11:56:39 AM
Hello community, I am thinking to buy a dice game script and it up. I was wondering, what is a reasonable bankroll I need to have to pay out the initial winnings. Thank you!

A dice game script? Thats sounds risky to me. Because there a lot of malware out in the internet which make claims like "use this script and earn such btc everyday" and those are mostly scams. Scammers sell those scripts to get money from newbies who become greedy and also infect their devices with malware.

However Seuntjies DiceBot is a free software to automate your dice games. You can preprogram your rolls and strategy into the bot and it will run it using the API. It is the only legitimate dicebot out there.

However using a bot will not guarantee profits. In fact nothing can guarantee profits in EV- games. In the end the house edge will wipe away all your balance because the casino always wins.
Yeaa you have to consider about a script that might contain malware to steal every information you have in your computer.
I always prefer to bet on dice without any automated bet , the result in the end feel the same.
No matter how much bankroll you set , in the long term your whole money will get busted.
376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 26, 2017, 11:35:29 AM
I have to be honest, but I mean both. Profit is always a reason for gambling, but in that gag and I'm having a good time, I know a lot of people who have the same opinion.
Ha-ha. I really appreciate the honesty you have showed in this matter my friend. Indeed it is good to speak the truth. In my opinion, even a fun seeker gambler cares about his money and will love to win the extra amount. In that sense, it will become real fun for him. Everybody wants to have a full pocket. Gambling is fun but I have long since stopped placing bets because this was not my taste. It bred me after some time.
They care about money in general , but doesn't really care when it comes to gamble.
They are aware when they step in the casino , they will have to let the money gone and just make it really fun.
Indeed not much people with that typical , usually those people who have a lot of money and looking for different way to having fun.
377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: October 26, 2017, 01:19:38 AM
Nope I really don't play slot games on online casino since the probability to win is low ,Unlike some dice games which you can adjust your probability to win slot games does not give me that option  . It was really a waste of time and I only do it if they offer me some free spins but more often than not I don't really play slots.
Same here, I don't play slots games because they are too risky compared to other gambling games. I think it's a waste of money and time. In gambling i just like to play real games, which my chance is very high there and i can predicit very well using my experience.
I don't think any experience could really influence your winning chance to become higher.
It is gambling you know , where everything so random no matter what game you are playing .
Slot itself riskier more than any games because of its huge prize offered , your $10 could become $10,000 ! And people looking for that kind luck in slit.
378  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: October 25, 2017, 06:28:58 PM

When I analyze my results, I realize that I have done more by buying and holding. Are you going to be out of the market during the biggest run
 Many people are bored and upset if their investments do not show profits in less than a few days.

buying and holding more on that too cause youre right if i see that no profits yet for some few days i felt so upset on it maybe because im not a good trader so thats why i feel that.
Hold some cryptocurrencies in a long term without calculation or any plan will make you try on your luck.
Or exact more, I can call you are gambling, not is trader like other traders on the market.
Traders need to spend their time to analysic careful, even they can spend one year or few years to prepare all things needed.
There is a lot of thing to be considered in trading to make it not looks like gambling.
There is a fundamental analysis , technical , volume importance , charts , moving average , trends , support/ressistance and many more!
All of them should be done carefully and then you are good to go to get started to do a real trading.
379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I try to win back my loss? on: October 25, 2017, 06:22:51 PM
There you go! Right in the face of everyone telling you to cut your losses and move on.. Agreed martingale can be incredibly scary and cause you to tilt but if you got enough of a bankroll it's usually fine Cheesy.

You stopping with gambling all together or just restarting from here on?

I'm not stopping, I'll be gambling, just not Martingale
A sweet innocent 0.00001BTC bet turns into a 1BTC bet in a matter of seconds


Haha yeah Martingale is a real bitch and I've only ever tried it once or twice, did not like it and it swallowed my entire balance within minutes.. I believe there are a few other systems you could place but for me, I prefer just doing random shit and having fun.. if I win that's just a bonus Cheesy
Better to do so , you have extra money and just go to casino make a random bet and go away.
You win it then just collect , and when  you lost it don't get heated to place another bet with bigger amount.
You will never find the real end in gambling , accept your lost and you should not think to have profit over and over again.
380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why YOU should really care about Provably Fair... on: October 25, 2017, 05:52:25 PM
Provably fair is important as it makes sure you are not being cheated by the site's admin by making the results appear a sthey want to. They can make easy profit by doing so and players get looted.
You are right! Provably fair, it's an important thing which it should added in a gambling site, to show people that this site is fair enough to play on it. I knew few gambling sites that allow people to see the algorithm with proof to trust the site.
Yeaa you can take a look to 999dice where they did not put any proof about the provably fairness.
They are manipulating every single outcome there and for sure they are not legitimate at all , pretty obvious scam.
Provably fair is a technology that makes everyone be able to verify your own bet whether everything generated randomly or not.
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