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281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do we still have no good bitcoin poker on: November 16, 2017, 02:55:04 PM
so I have asked myself this question a thousand time , some bitcoin gambling sites are having great success but yet we fail to see a single good poker room after seals with clubs stopped ( wasn't that good but comparing it with these times it was great )

we see thousands of bitcoins being gambled daily on sites like primedice , betkings , nitrogen ...etc but yet we don't have a single succeful poker site ( nitrogen room isn't good especially with that software they are using )

why the sites admins here aren't going for that ?? bitcoin poker can destroy all the big sites

I see a lot of poker pros like Dougpolk , Kevin Martin , Mike McDonald ...etc are investing in bitcoin and other crypto  so even big players will tend to play more bitcoin poker if there are some active sites

I hope to hear from the admins of the big sites as well , like stunna and dooglus
is it hard to launch a poker site ??

I agree.
I know that Americas card room support cryptocurrencies, but I also know that they convert it right after to fiat, so I won't consider themself as crypto friendly site.
We need a site that offers Only bitcoin poker, with low house edge, good system, and blinds are being paid with mbtc( not with usd as america
s card room do).

I think that cryptocurrencies could bring poker into countries where gambling is prohibited, it could open a new gate for new users.

We have low active player , the whole fiat poker player itself might much more than the whole bitcoin community.
So no wonder whenever there is a bitcoin poker player push hard their promotion to attract more players , it is always failed.
Look at nitrogen poker , first month , second month they have a lot of active player but now? After long time enough i cannot see there is a lot of people enough play actively .
282  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: November 16, 2017, 02:28:01 PM
Why should someone offer a bot if he can use it by himself?
Makes no sense.
Every strategy will fail, if there are to many users. 
Your best bot is between your ears and calls brain.
I won't say that is doesn't makes any sense , but it is not effective espevially if you did not know things such as coding . The market won't stay the same move up and down if you set a simple bot.
But it might have different story when you use a complicated bot such as the gunbot that made by gunthar , it has quite a lot people use it .
Don't know how the bot generates you profit but so far there is no overreaction on how the bot did not work nor how it gives them profit . Just make your own conclusion about that.
283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 16, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin
I think 70% for loss and 30% for profit, than to follow gambling better you invest it in my opinion unless you are good at gambling.
The only thing wrong about gambling is when you keep on losing and still keep on playing and losing your money but as long as you are winning, there is nothing wrong with it.
Still in the end gambling always make things turn wrong no matter you win it or even the worst you get more losses.
Some people think that if you successfully make gambling profitable then it is good but that was not something easily achieved.
I can say it is impossible due its edge in gambling will always make players negative and only casino who get the profit in the long run.
Gambling was starting in the game, it was turn only into gambling when people takes greediness and persons were started to become addicted. In reality gambling was used only for fun, but some peoples can't control their self to bet that's why they lost high amount or high numbers of bitcoin. After that, they wanted to recover their losses immediately, that gives to people much reasons to keep playing gambling.
In reality a lot of people become broke because of gambling , not have fun and full of smile!
I bet below 1% only those people who feel happy because of gambling , mostly a temporary feel that happy way.
Believe me , gambling isn't a good place to looking for fun , it is full of pain and risk. Stay away if you don't want to take that high risk.
There is a lot of fun in gambling, but we will not play for fun we will play for money that is the problem. Many people will play gambling to come out from there work stress. I also play when my brain heats up for my workload.
Yeaaa that is not a secret anymore , they might think that they are playing so far for the sake of fun.
But actually deep inside their heart it is fun bullsh*t everything run so quickly in gambling you feel happy for a moment and then suffering again.
All i can say is that generally gambling always considered as wrong because of its bad influence in all aspects.
284  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games? on: November 16, 2017, 01:06:24 PM
My personal opinion is I don't trading as a game because it's my capital or my money, but it depends on how my mood and most I trading with seriously, I feel fun if I make a profit not because trading is fun game.
There is no way that we can treat trading just like playing games and having fun. It is because of the reason that trading is quite a serious sort of thing and you cannot take it lightly. You actually need to pay lot of attention into this field if you really want to have something profitable in return. Moreover, all your investments will be greatly in danger if you are going to take trading as fun and games.
You can always take it easy , trade like you know everything just pick certain coin to trade wait and see.
The problem is on how you did it? By a random thought/guts? Or by your high experience that could makes you so looks easy making decision.
Actually everything back to you , when you still learning to trade properly then there is no way you can make it fun and consider it such a game.
285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: November 16, 2017, 12:57:17 PM
if I think learning from the mistake of gambling is I want to stop gambling because I am now aware that gambling is not a shortcut to get good money if in my country / religion.soalnya there are still many shortcuts to earn money not by gambling.

If you can stop gambling then that is a good thing to do but also remember that all shortcuts to make money come with high-risk of losing your investments. So think many times before choosing any short-cuts. All good investments need time to do a business and to give you profits so don't put all your hard earned money into short-cut methods.
Yeaaa but when you ready to accept the whole risk available in gambling i think there is no big deal isn't it?
Just keep playing responsibly as long as it did not harmful into your daily life.
Learn from Gambling mistakes won't make you become a better player , it will only make you suffering to remember what you have done in the past.

Well its really hard to learn my your experiences if you are going to ask me. Specially if you are addicted into it. That's why you became addicted in the first place, you keep on repeating the same mistakes over and over again. I'm talking about personal experience here. Lately, about a few months ago,

I went into gambling again after so many years of being in and out of it. Initially, I was able to control everything and learn from my mistakes, however I think I'm diving with gambling again and I'm having a hard time to control and learn from my past mistakes. I hope I will not get addicted this time again because its really difficult.
It should be taken care properly , i mean it was not something you can deal with easily alone.
You might stop and stay away from gambling for a while , but no doubt sooner or later things back to normal to your bad habit and that is gambling.
Why ? In gambling addiction you will never learn something and apply it  last forever , all of them works temporarily , it is really complicated.
286  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: November 16, 2017, 12:08:48 PM
Truly, Don't do it. You have to place only like 5% of your capital and consider this money as "lost" If you don't want to make a nervous breakdown.
Furthermore, the recent revelation about the energy consumption of bitcoin (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/ywbbpm/bitcoin-mining-electricity-consumption-ethereum-energy-climate-change) may slow down the global adoption since it can have a serious impact on climate changes. So you have to diversify your investments in many different crypto.

Yeaaa never be a good idea to place the whole fund you have in bitcoin , too risky even has high potential rewards.
No matter if you do know that circumstances that when you do allin you might get better profit , still wasn't good idea.
Why ? If it was your first time investment you will get hurt because i believe you cannot afford to lose that.
287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people still play dice? on: November 16, 2017, 11:35:52 AM
I think it is because dice is an easy and fast game to play with instant gratification if you win. Some sites like Yolodice offer a social aspect which draws people in and allows you to make friends and gamble with other people. Level up systems are great too because it will give you something additional to work towards.

Even I asked myself the same question few days back  Grin I realized I love it while I play it and I feel entertained as many other peoples here.
Sometimes I do want to try my luck, so I play Dice. No way it was for money, because I am in overall loss in it. But still love to play sometimes.
A dice game is the most excited game few years ago , especially in bitcoin gambling sites it is so popular.
But i don't think nowadays people still play it as much as back in few years ago.
They have no huge interest anymore because some reasons include how boring the game actually.

Try out Yolodice and see if you change your mind.
I just clicked your sig and visit yolodice , nothing special and make it different with other dice sites  Roll Eyes .
A chat box and any other social features has been exist for long time , still boring and those people who still gamble at a game like dice just an addict one.
I personally have no reason to like such game , no fun factor to make me have to stay there.
288  Economy / Services / Re: FORTUNEJACK - Earn up to 0.2BTC - NEW Signature Campaign - Weekly Payments on: November 15, 2017, 01:54:44 PM
Hi natalie ,
I have read the new rules and i believe any change is for the better.
I won't say discomfort with the new campaign , just count me in Smiley .
289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet? on: November 15, 2017, 01:39:38 PM
Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet?
You won't get any tricks or formulas are not there to win the gambling, gambling itself says that it is dependent on luck.

That is the truth in gambling. There is really no consistent and reliable way to profit continuously in gambling. Because in gambling you rely on probabilities, and there is always a chance that the roll will not be favorable to the gambler, and that is completely normal. The only trick you can rely on is that you withdraw when you profit and stop chasing losses, that's the best tip for any gambler out there.
Just a delusion those people who think they have a winning strategy , it will only work for once or twice.
Just do it repeatedly and see the result will always make you lost more than what you can imagine.
The trick to make you always win is by exploit the game system , that is the only way and it is a bad idea of course.
290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 15, 2017, 01:13:13 PM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin
I think 70% for loss and 30% for profit, than to follow gambling better you invest it in my opinion unless you are good at gambling.
The only thing wrong about gambling is when you keep on losing and still keep on playing and losing your money but as long as you are winning, there is nothing wrong with it.
Still in the end gambling always make things turn wrong no matter you win it or even the worst you get more losses.
Some people think that if you successfully make gambling profitable then it is good but that was not something easily achieved.
I can say it is impossible due its edge in gambling will always make players negative and only casino who get the profit in the long run.
Gambling was starting in the game, it was turn only into gambling when people takes greediness and persons were started to become addicted. In reality gambling was used only for fun, but some peoples can't control their self to bet that's why they lost high amount or high numbers of bitcoin. After that, they wanted to recover their losses immediately, that gives to people much reasons to keep playing gambling.
In reality a lot of people become broke because of gambling , not have fun and full of smile!
I bet below 1% only those people who feel happy because of gambling , mostly a temporary feel that happy way.
Believe me , gambling isn't a good place to looking for fun , it is full of pain and risk. Stay away if you don't want to take that high risk.
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what makes you trust a new altcoin? on: November 15, 2017, 12:59:21 PM
I don't just trust new altcoins immediately. I find it more convenient if I hear a lot of good feedbacks from other people who already risked using it. A good altcoin will definitely be the content of a lot of threads in here. I read a lot to know.
Yeaa not much we can do to verify things technically , just do your own research by reading isn't a bad way.
Rather than make a baseless speculation picking altcoins randomly etc. Know the core developer , are they have a lot of supports since the announcement and what the mission behind altcoin invention could be a little example to take it as a serious consideration.
292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 15, 2017, 12:52:38 PM
The hope that I can one day win some huge and maybe possibly the jackpot is the one and only reason why I return to gamble even though I keep losing money and everytime I come back but I have limits on how I do it so that I don't lose more than I can afford.

Let's remove the jackpot thing, everyone is hoping that we can even take some amount of winning back to our pockets so we keep on coming back. And if someone tells us on how lucky they are, we think that we can be like them so flashing back the memories of lost amount is starting to trigger us to come back. That's the possibility why is that everyone is getting back even with worst gambling experiences.
Winning back all the loss is the reason why gamblers keeps on coming back even though we already know that we will never win back all of those money we wasted still we try our luck maybe this is just a human behavior and only few people who can control their selves with this kind of emotion.
Not only about that factor , sometimes you back to gamble because of it is so attractive in term how easy doubling your money.
But then they always losing mind when it comes to getting profit in the first impression.
Forgot that actually there is a big risk waiting for you at the end of the game whether you will win big or lost a lot.

I do agree with you, aside from the fact that gambling often times is entertaining, the idea of doubling money in case we win is alluring sometimes.  Or if we have thought of a new method of at least winning for a temporary span of time makes us to sit and play gambling games.  Another stuff is when we have met another person in a casino and we enjoyed the company, bond builds up and frienship started to grow.  That will make us come back again and again on that casino.
Yeaa there's a lot factor makes people think that they have to come back gambling .
They think in the next session it is impossible to get a losing streaks , they will find their luck but all of them always turn wrong.
Instead get what they expect , whenever they make a come back they get hurt by getting more losses , more than what they have achieved begore and so on the irony continue.
293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Relationships! on: November 15, 2017, 12:36:36 PM
I don't think its weird although I am not in favor of gambling but if that's what they want like a family member or even close friend of mine is addicted to gambling of course I will advice them to not really get into that kind of hobby. I do have a friend who was close to being addicted to gambling but he decided not to go through that phase because he realized he lost a lot from gambling and have to save a lot of money for his family of 5.
Nothing wrong with that kind situation , unless if you live at the environment where noone gamble and consider it as a very bad thing.
Gamble together along with your family member , brothers, sisters and friends at some places is a common thing.
There is a reason why mostly consider gambling as a bad habit , and that because most of the times gambling always ends so bad no matter what.
294  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how control my emotion?? on: November 15, 2017, 12:20:43 PM
I had invested into some altcoins when bitcoin were at 6000 dollars, and since those period almost all altcoins went down, i had resisted to cut my losses and i had hold it for a while, i had ignored altcoin value and follow bitcoin, since i knew altcoins would recover once price fall a bit. But i know is very hard to control emotion when you are playing with money and you are loosing as well winning, because our greedy make us take a risk we wouldnt take if were into similiar value into loss.
That's true we always fear about taking risk to get some lost for a while and did not patient enough to wait.
People only want to have a good winning without consider about how the feeling get a huge loss.
If there is a rewards , there is a risk . Everyone should completely aware about this when it comes to investment and trade.
295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: November 15, 2017, 12:08:34 PM
Find a new hobby to replace gambling. Try working out, learning to code, video games or something like that. I wouldn't recommend gambling with play money, the best thing to do is do some new hobby whenever you feel the urge to gamble. Just keep it up and the urge will eventually go away.
I agree , making a new hobby out of your gambling habit would be a great help to get away from it. Gambling is really an addiciting issue. Once you have experienced it, there will be hard way in stopping it. Making some friends and speaking more with your loved ones would also help for you will devote more of your time in them and not in thinking about gambling.
Yeaaa keep making your day in bustle , i mean don't let your space time filled by gambling but looking for another way to fill it.
Such as spend your time after work to get some rest by sleep early .
And spend your time in the weekend with your friends or family go somewhere to play sports such as tennis , billiard and share your problem with them.
296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble,boredom,loneliness, grief or lose on: November 15, 2017, 11:50:10 AM
I gamble most of the time when I am alone.
I gamble when i have nothing to do and want to relieve from stress usually after work. I think its not right to turn on to gambling if the reasons are what you have mentioned.

If i felt those feeling, i prefer to bond with my friends and have someone to talk to or unwind in a nice place. If you gamble because of that it might turn bad for yourselves.
Not surprising at all to see people who have a lot of spare time and immediately to think about give a try to gamble.
Actually by gamble you are dealing your problem with a new problem , there's no real benefit doing this.
You feel angry and distract it to gamble , get lost and guess what will happened? You get more anger !
297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: November 15, 2017, 11:37:02 AM
if I think learning from the mistake of gambling is I want to stop gambling because I am now aware that gambling is not a shortcut to get good money if in my country / religion.soalnya there are still many shortcuts to earn money not by gambling.

If you can stop gambling then that is a good thing to do but also remember that all shortcuts to make money come with high-risk of losing your investments. So think many times before choosing any short-cuts. All good investments need time to do a business and to give you profits so don't put all your hard earned money into short-cut methods.
Yeaaa but when you ready to accept the whole risk available in gambling i think there is no big deal isn't it?
Just keep playing responsibly as long as it did not harmful into your daily life.
Learn from Gambling mistakes won't make you become a better player , it will only make you suffering to remember what you have done in the past.
298  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: November 14, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
I deal with loss by going out and having some fun to relieve some stress. I don't stress myself more when i get a lot of losses in trading because that will make the situation worse and i will just keep blaming myself so i just go out and eat some delicious food to relax because that is how i calm myself, by delicious food. lol

Take a deep breath go hangout for a while and get the fresh air .
Get back when you think you have a new spirit and brilliant brain recovered , it is really hurt to accept any kind losses.
But it could be worse when you make a decision with messed up situation , neutralize it first!
299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports Betting Recomendation on: November 14, 2017, 03:28:46 PM
I like directbet because the site is fast response and did not require account registration so I can use it everywhere and anytime
Well after directbet stop their operation, I think there are no website like them anymore or I'm mistaken if there is any site like it ?
Kindly give me the site if possible
Jetwin is one of the best for now , unfortunately they have not ethereum deposit or withdrawal option.
So do with cloudbet but as far as i know it is not required any kyc , not like jetwin who ask for it sometimes.
Nitrogensports also has not ethereum currency for deposit/withdrawal , really hard to find the full criteria that op mentioned above. We all missed directbet.
300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: November 14, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
People always have a mentality to believe in luck. This when goes beyond certain limit becomes a superstitious belief and the same has changed the mentality of users to go on superstition based selection upon each and every activity done by them. I completely opposed such activities, if superstition is really effective why can't a particular user couldn't win continuously.
Noone force you to believe in it , and noone think superstition should make you win right?
It is up to you whether you want to have another game besides gambling such as to do some ritual before playing.
Really it is fun factor not to win certain game , it is for sure doesn't makes any sense , just for fun.
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