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881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: June 19, 2017, 03:26:33 PM
I think it's better to invest it, rather than to gamble it. If invested it, it's clear our balance is safer from lost, and can benefit even little by little, obviously it's safer than gamble it, gambling is more at risk.

I will side with you that investment is safer than gambling because it is less risky If you've researched and know what you're putting your money into. Gambling can also be profitable but very risky that's why I consider investment as the lesser of two evils because you can loose your money in wrong investments too but it takes time and not instant.
I think it depends on how much money you have and you are willing to risk. If you can afford to lose few bucks then choose gambling or betting, if you are willing to risk more money then invest in something.
Gamble your little money only if you can not resist your gambling addiction.
It is part of the way to quit gambling slowly too , as for me nothing really good in gambling.
Invest your money on crypto project of course more reliable but you need do some research to make sure everything okay.
882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: June 19, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
It is all bad luck for me because I seldom win. I am addicted not because I win but because I have been playing alot and that makes me addicted however I play for other reason now, I play for fun and Im happy. It might not be my way of getting rich from it but atleast it is a way for me to be happy when I play with it
If you are not winning any money through gambling then playing for fun is a good way to distract things hoping that you could become lucky one day  Wink it is all fun if you are not loosing big money but once you start loosing bit then the fun part goes away.

One of the reason he should play like this if you are focus on fun more you could win more. NO matter if you lose or not if you play just to win then in most cases you will lose everything, but fun gambling is better you have 5 dollars for example and play if you win great if you you lose great again. You will not have so much adrenaline rush for this cuz it will be I play just to play.
It is hard to avoid gambling addiction , no matter you gamble for fun since beginning.
Sooner or later things in gambling always make you lured to gamble again and again.
Simply , gambling is addictive because it is promising you to earn money easily and fast.
883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 19, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
Gambling can sure be profitable in the long run. Profit always accompanies the lucky people, so in the long run the one who has the willingness to learn and make new strategies will make a bigger and better profit. Hope to make a lucky day in the long run.

Gambling is not about strategy to win, in EV- games every strategy is a fail and you cant ever beat the house - because the odds are against you. In EV+ games the picture is a bit different because you skills and knowledge come into play and you might gain an edge over the other players. Though luck is always important which is why strategies always fail in EV- games.
Then people should know first wheter the game they played is EV+ or not right?
And you might could expect to get profit even in the long run.
But honestly for me personally there's no big difference no matter it is EV- or EV+ when it comes to gambling , you won't able to get profit.
884  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will up. dont worrry on: June 17, 2017, 10:34:40 PM
I've seen to much bitcoin price shifts over last 4 years that I this current dip is not even surprise for me.
If you haven't been here when bitcoin spiked to $1200 in 2013 and then in 2015  price crashed to $230 then you might be scared by recent dip.
A piece of advice - every price crash is a great opportunity to buy cheaper coins. Go for it.

Not always a crash ended up with a bounce back , it could be a real disaster.
I mean when the market in downtrend and then the price continue get drops until reach the lowest price.
That time nothing you can do but suffering huge lost , be careful and don't be greedy, take your profit even it is just a little bit. There's no harm to keep believing on something like this , the price will go up but noone can guarantee it.
885  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • 2 BTC Blackjack Tournament! (new) on: June 17, 2017, 10:19:16 PM
63 confirmations, still unconfirmed on coinroyale, and still no answer from support.... What should i do Huh
Start scam accusation if they don't respond.

Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Using this format:

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There is no need for scam accusation. I am pretty sure that they are not going to scam anybody for their respected deposits.
Their support sometimes can be slow and its the only problem.
You know ,they know and everyone know that was a classic problem for them and they did not even want to fix it?
Quite ironic to see a casino like this , sometimes have a superb promo and onfire but then gone without any update.
For me looks like victor is lack of operational management , it makes the business won't run smoothly.
886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: June 17, 2017, 10:11:56 PM
it's not easy at all, gambling is like an addiction more than people think and it creates a type of psychological dependence, unlike drugs, you don't vomit etc... but you feel the same degree of irritation and discomfort, to leave gambling for a strong willed person, allot of effort is needed, otherwise going to a help group for gamblers and the like could be useful.
I think with sharing group it won't help you much to get out of gambling addiction.
It is feel like wasting time you know , doesn't makes any sense , that is my opinion okay.
Generally gambling is equal to any other addiction , it is required more than just a willing but a real action to realize it even slowly.
887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is happening ? = all coins down by 20 to 35 % on: June 16, 2017, 09:00:40 AM
lol , it means = best buying opportunity , VERY cheap coins , i'm buying ETC and ETH
It is simple just like that , but still really hard to put a buy position while you are in fear.
Fear to see the price and the market free fall deeper than the current down price.
It could be keep dropping more than 50% or even more noone know right? Just always make a backup funds when you want to do this.
888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin ever replace conventional money? on: June 16, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Yes, I think so, As I said on the previous topic, with the grown of e-currencies, some of them is customized for micro payments so that e-currencies will rules the world but not that soon
I cannot find any reason how necessary e-currencies have to used in our daily lives.
At least so far so good when to see cryptocurrency and fiat present side by side.
There's nothing wrong that leading to how urgent bitcoin replce conventional money as for now we still need both right?
889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: June 16, 2017, 08:34:25 AM
I tried diffirent strategy.
experience show me that martingale strategy is not good for dice..
long term = loss.
need use low coefficient of winnings and big amount of bets..
Low coefficient? You might means about low multiplier right? Such as x1.1 x1.2 etc.
I don't think it can be worth to you to try , as you said it won't work in the lo g run.
Dice really good when you do it for the short time profit when you want it in the long run , the winning feel like temporarily.
After having personal experience, only people got to know that no strategy will work in a dice game. This is purely luck base game. Martingale strategy and other plans are just one time it will work not every time. To implement this method we need big bankroll, and there is no confidence that we will get back our lost money. So this dice game is only for time pass just invest a small amount and play for some time and enjoy the game. Don't waste your money to using any strategies.
I am not saying that use any strategy in gambling is just wasting your time really.
But more to how dice game is so dangerous could make you easy to get heated to make a hurry decision.
And noone can make it profitable without any exceptional , get to used to it , dice is the bad way to gamble your money.
890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 16, 2017, 08:22:51 AM
When I win a single bet I feel very little but when I get a hot streak I suddenly feel excited like I'm top of the world and invincible.

This is one of the reasons I don't gamble often, I quickly find out that I'm actually vulnerable when I then lose all my winnings.
It's a very often thing that happens in the gambling world, and that's where you will know that you manage to win and get away with it, very often when they feel invulnerable, they will suddenly realize that they are not and they are just going to lose everything that you've won. I've experienced that also.
Yeaaa it was a common thing for those people who gamble in regular time.
They will never stop to gamble until they found the climax satisfaction.
Which actually it is rare happened , mostly keep looking for and suffering huge lost in the end.

That's the first steps to getting an addiction in gambling. The feel of winning gives us a taste of getting rich and everybody wants to get rich. The problem is, in gambling that feeling is temporary. There is no way we can beat the house anyway and we just all lose in the end but we all do keep on trying.
Yeaaa you're right the feeling that you are so rich that time in gambling always make you greed.
No other way to prevent you from gambling addiction but with your attitude.
I mean when you treat gambling properly not consider it as a money making way , you might won't get addicted that easy.
891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you convince people into you using Bitcoin? on: June 15, 2017, 07:38:30 AM
Many people need big proof to satisfy that this site is legit ..whats the best way to convince your relatives or friends

Show them some proof of having an income in this site so that they will really convince to use bitcoin. Tell them and teach them on how things works here in butcointalk so that they have some background here in bitcointalk. Tell them the advantages and how you earn in bitcointalk. Things will be easy if you accomplished that things.
That sounds like arrogant when you show the way you make money through bitcoin.
I suggest to show them how bitcoin very similar to cash where you can spend it for anything in your daily needs.
Rather than show yourself as a selfish person , show them something extraordinary.
892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: June 15, 2017, 07:11:02 AM
What keeps me back lately is greed for money. I earn some money and than i want more and more and i lose it of course.
Or if i see someone is winning big I want to win big too.
I think i need a break for a while from gambling, it's not fun to me anymore.
That could be one, what keeps us from coming back is because of that certain thing. We become greedy on gambling. We want to earn what we already lose, we want to top among others we want to get what others earning , sometimes that could be one of the reason why we keeps on coming back the greediness inside of ours.
When you think have no reason to gamble but just keep doing it over and over again.
It is clearly you are an addict already , and no wonder why you coming back even know you will lost in the end.
The facts like that even cannot stop you to comeback , it was a serious problem actually.
893  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: June 15, 2017, 06:38:50 AM
Trading is fairly predictable.  No business is 100% predictable even big companies like Google or App cannot precisely say what their annual profits would be. Lots of people have accurately predicted how much Bitcoin would last year and this year.
Yeaaa there will always something called human error.
And it is causing your prediction a little bit missed than you thought before.
Noone should expect trading get predictable unless you cheating.
The big question is how can you cheat other trader in order for you to make money, I think no one can cheat.
It is only the whales who can make money easily but they never cheat, they are just taking advantage of their power to dictate
the price movement.
What i mean about cheat is when you see there's is a bug in an exchange and you exploit it to get ptofit.
Or when you as a trader also coin developer creates a shit scam coin to trade by yourself and run when you think it is enough to scam people.
Nothing predictable or accurately predicted as we are a human where an error is the place.
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think ETC will follow ETH and crosses 100$ ? on: June 15, 2017, 06:08:33 AM
ETC is undervalued . we've seen in the past a lot of shitcoins making 10x its value in less than a week , so the answer is yes : ETC can cross 100$ in few weeks Smiley
I'll mark your words and lets see what will happened later.
Considering the market cap , supply and volume i don't think etc can do that in the near future.
Ethereum far more established , stronger support and a lot of people interested in it rather than in eth.
895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 15, 2017, 06:00:54 AM
That's all trye,we should only play the amount we can afford to lose to have no regrets for its hard to tell whether we can earn or not.

The amount that we can lose and make sure that it is only small amount. I dont think it is good to spend alot even if we can afford it. Alot of people have lose alot from gambling so I dont think that it is good to waste money. The money that we dont waste could be use somewhere else when we need it for sure
Even if we do have lots of money to spent its not really a wise thing to lose it all on just playing gambling and as you said there are lots of things that we should make prioritize rather than on playing gambling alone.Smart way is that we do know how to set our limitations on playing gambling,not playing on longer time and and dont spend on the amount that you cant afford to lose.

I could not agree more to this. We should always have that limitation and have the discipline to stop when we reach that limitation no matter what. This is how to combat great loses in gambling.
Have a limitation and hold yourself to not gamble in hurry.
Take a break when you think you are losing your mind , cool it down and restart again later.
Don't do gamble too often to avoid the number of losing control .

Good advice! One of my mentor before, who is a making a living just with gambling (professional gambler), he always told me to stop, breath, relax, and let others bet in a few minutes before making your next bet.
It works only when you have someone beside you to remind such as "hey you have got a lot profit, it is enough"
When there is someone who can stop you to play and asking for several minutes to take a break and just cash it out in the end rather than continue playing.
I think you can always gamble with cold head , clear mind to decide a smart move.
896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: June 15, 2017, 05:48:18 AM
You have to have or look for more activity than usual with a plan to get rid of the gamble in your brain, so maybe you will slowly not think about gambling and the thought of gambling may disappear over time.
Yes, just focus on the other things and take away your thoughts in gambling , you may quit gambling littlt by little, dont rush it because you will be failed to quit it. Focus on other things and stop minding gamblin too much. Just take it easy.

It's not easy to quit in the beginning when you are too much addicted to it. You will have a hard time Skipping gambling. Just not think of gambling and focus on other things like you said. Keep away from the things that will remind you of gambling instead you focus yourself creating different scenario for yourself. Just try first and you will see the progress of your quitting gambling.
Actually every proccess is very important more than the result itself.
So yeaaa better to give a shot whether are you really want to quit and willing to sacriface certain thing.
If then your attempts did not produce something good , at least in the proccess you will learn something precious.
897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How you pick your bets? on: June 15, 2017, 05:37:56 AM
Depending on feelings + thoughts on ourselves i think  Cheesy
but i mostly using my feeling.. And i think in bettings we have to use a very calm brain and a goodly heart condition and we can control the emotions when betting.
When you lost you might automatically get angry and want to recover it very soon.
No such things calm when you are gambling , it is only in rare case where the person really have a patience attitude.
I belive everyone pick the bet based on supertition and the other just use their guts.
898  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: June 14, 2017, 01:06:27 PM
I did not place all my funds into bitcoin. Half of my savings is in bitcoin and half of it is in bank. Some of my investment is in bitcoin because  I believe bitcoin price will increase. Also ofcourse it is risks if I put all my funds in bitcoin, theres a need to invest in other legit investment in fiat currency.
No matter how fanatic you are supporting bitcoin there is a little bit insecure feeling.
As noone know what will be the future of bitcoin , and that's a normal feeling i guess .
But when you decide to take that high risk to go allin in bitcoin you might could get a very big rewards , worth it actually.
899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 14, 2017, 12:54:48 PM
Nope not unless you get addicted to it. Though when people hear about gambling it sounds negative already because in the past our great grandparents have taught us that it can waste our money. But others consider only for fun or a sort of entertainment to satisfy their boredom or whatever reasons they have. It isn't wrong when you think only for fun and not so much spending a lot of money. There must be discipline when you gamble. So it isn't wrong at all.
Then how you can make sure that you are really gambling for fun?
As time goes by you will think that it is better to keep looking for profit as any losses never be fun.
Gambling for people out there is pure wrong without any exception.
900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: June 14, 2017, 12:16:24 PM
When I win a single bet I feel very little but when I get a hot streak I suddenly feel excited like I'm top of the world and invincible.

This is one of the reasons I don't gamble often, I quickly find out that I'm actually vulnerable when I then lose all my winnings.
It's a very often thing that happens in the gambling world, and that's where you will know that you manage to win and get away with it, very often when they feel invulnerable, they will suddenly realize that they are not and they are just going to lose everything that you've won. I've experienced that also.
Yeaaa it was a common thing for those people who gamble in regular time.
They will never stop to gamble until they found the climax satisfaction.
Which actually it is rare happened , mostly keep looking for and suffering huge lost in the end.
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