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1021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 16, 2017, 04:07:53 PM
I'm not sure about that. Maybe gambling can give profit but few days only. For long time seems difficult to happen. Winning isn't always in our hands.
If you are able to know to get out at the right time then you can make some profit gambling in the long run and i am wagging bet in sports for a very long time and with experience i do know what to do and what to expect in it and i am having a good profit with it. So it is possible to be profitable in the long run.

With sports betting, you can do that.. However, with other gambling games like slots, you definitely cannot do that because short or long term play doesn't matter at all because it is purely founded with luck!
Yes that is only the sports betting in which experience work and for experience if you will remain in the field for longer then you will earn more in that field. So according to my views you are right that in sports betting we can rely on long term planning.
Honestly i think the only gambling game that could really give you a profit is sportsbetting.
As when you know well about certain event and you have a lot of confidence , your bet usually shows a winning.
A lot of factor indeed things make the outcome to win , but confidence and skills take a big role here.
1022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: May 16, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
I don't keep any money which I have won through gambling. I rarely win big and whatever I have won, I used that money to buy necessary things for my home at that point like furniture, some interior decoration, garden necessaries etc.
I spent all the winnings on my house to make it look lovely.
It needs to be very successful in gambling to be able to buy expensive things after the game. Personally, I was lucky enough to make another bet for the money I won and after that the game came to an end.
Really better to collect and enjoy your winning even for a while.
Rather than to gamble it again , there will never a good end when you keep playing .
Treat yourself as comfort as possible , as the goal in gambling itself to make you have fun.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: May 12, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
Both can be utilized. If want to have fun, gambling may be an option. But if you love money you have earned from hard work, investing is the best choice.
Few people only who able to make gambling as a way to having fun.
Mostly hooked by the high winning potential that actually always leading to addiction in the end get lost instead get entertained.
Comparing both gamble and to invest is pretty contrast , people know which one better right?
I don't think so, I believe there are plenty of people who are having fun with gambling despite the fact that they are losing, it's not a problem if they can afford what they lose and it's just normal for anyone to aim for profit every time he gambles.

We play to have fun and to make money at the same time and if we cannot do that then there is always next time.
Well maybe you're right , each people has different point of view and taste on doing something.
But i did not deny about there's some people who gamble for entertainment , i just say there's few people only.
Sooner or later when at the beginning you think you can afford to lose , in the end you force yourself to keep playing no matter how much debt you have.
1024  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does speculation affect bitcoin trading on: May 12, 2017, 10:45:00 AM
Although the way of trading forex and crypto currency is almost the same but there are differences between trading forex and crypto currencies, in forex speculation is very important the speculation for forex is coming from a lot of sectors can be economic or political or other sectors, but in crypto the price is based on the market demands so speculation is only guide the users
Since bitcoin already used globally around the world i think i disagree with your opinion.
Bitcoin could be affected by a lot of sectors too , including global economy.
Last time we have seen japan have a massive progress by adopting bitcoin .

This can be applied only for Bitcoin and some of the altcoin markets which are most popular. Speculation doesnt change anything in the new altcoins. BTC is worldwide now and speculation can affect BTC trading.
Then what factor do you think could affected altcoin huhhh?
The topic also says and discussing about bitcoin market btw , but you bring altcoin Sad .
Also when there is an issue about how terrorist funded through bitcoin few years ago make the market really poor , that's a conclusive evidence.
1025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think bitcoin price will crash again in 2017? on: May 12, 2017, 10:32:40 AM
price will come down at some point but that is not called "crash" it will be a correction and it will not be big.

but nobody can tell you when that time will be! or what the final price is going to be.

look at the history of what has happened and try finding reasons for each of them. that can give you a pretty good picture of what you are dealing with.

and here is the iconic 1 in a million price topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790863.0

this is a simple picture I made 3 months ago from the past 2 and a half years of price rise.





My guts tell me in 2015 ago when the flash crash happened down to below $300 to buy bitcoin as much as i can.
Unfortunately i did not breve enough to buy a lot of bitcoin , just spend a couple dollar to get around 6 bitcoin.
And sell it as soon as hit $700 , as really afraid the real crash could really coming. I was really wrong and regret on what i have did Sad
1026  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which is better: Trading Forex, Stock, Metal or Crypto? on: May 12, 2017, 10:18:45 AM
Am considering going into trading Stock or Gold/Silver but don't know how it's done. Am into Altcoin Trading, so far so good except that it fluctuates dangerously. I need to try other...
 Is stock as profitable?  I need your opinion.

Hey amigo, I strongly advise you to focus on cryptos. Stocks are good but they are easily manipulated by politics, media, etc... y'know what am sayin?
In crypto you only have to fear dumps if your hands are weak... also, you may wanna try to operate a trading bot which is a huge help since it would run a "buy low sell high" 24/7.

I was trading stocks for quite a while but when I realized that cryptos are much funkier than stocks I decided to trade crypto full time.

Also, why would you trade gold and silver commos when you already have cryptos in front of you. Let us forget the Ice Age, this is the Binary Age, man.  Grin Grin Grin
Yeaaa it should be a common reason why most people should prefer to trade on crypto rather than stock exchange.
But don't forget on a new altcoin it is vulnerable and even some altcoin invented for the sake of the developer profit.
And run scam in the end , behind there a lot of benefit , you will face some problem like that.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: May 11, 2017, 05:06:19 PM
I will give you a ''smart'' way and a fast way to gamble. Bet everything on 5% and if you win stop and never gamble again in your life, you are probably going to lose but if you win there you go, you can stop gambling now. The other only real possibility is to gamble with money given by the casino or promotions, same ''strategy'' bet everything on 5% or lower or higher, doesn't really matter and if you win, stop and never gamble with that money again.

Not a good idea, because I'm sure if lost they will never stop. But will keep trying because it has an addiction.
All the strategies are the same. A good strategy is to play on the kind of game that you think it's easy to get an advantage compared to other types of games.
Like me who can get more profit in sports betting, than poker, dice, or another casino.

Agree. Sportsbetting, especially if you know the games, the teams, and the lineup of players well, then you have more chances of winning than lossing. Just make sure that you keep an eye on the odd of each team.

Mate come on, stop with the bullshit, only a tiny amount of people are able to make money constantly on sports betting, you need much more than just knowing the teams well, everyone would be making money if it was that easy, how many people do you think are making real money here with sports betting?
Yeaaa i believe even it was sportsbetting where data play bigger role here.
It is still gambling and when you staking huge amount you will bet underpressure and it has an impact to your analysis.
Nothing smart way , it is just you! And your luck! End of words.
1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: May 11, 2017, 04:50:34 PM
The one way that gambling can help you with your life is that you are going to be part of a gambling site team.
By being employed and working for them, you will be able to have decent salary.
And if they are stable enough, that is going to give you a lot of help.

You know that casino employees have a very good salary and why?
Simply because how good a casino making money rather than you as a player there.
You cannot expect much as player but yiu can when act as the owner!
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: May 11, 2017, 04:32:46 PM
gambling was a pretty devastating discovery of human race. we can say its a perfect strategic game where a person starts a casino with a huge investment and under that casino other users risk their money so basically a casino owner has not to worry about losing everything because a casino is build in such a way that nobody can beat the house roll only if someone comes with extreme high wealth

Casinos can definitely lose
Their wins don't state as much on house edge as much as they do on a bigger bank
Even if the stakes were 60% on your side, no matter how much you win, you'd keep playing more&more until eventually you lose everything
So, casinos can definitely lose if someone with a bigger bank comes to bet
But by setting a maximum bet, they shouldn't

Well, by the laws of the free market
Let them build and let them play Smiley
At first day gambling introduced , people stake the money for the sake of fun and they think it feels good.
And then it keeps developing until there is a place where a lot of gambler gather around called casino.
Those casino who did not set the macimum bet is really making a clear blunder.
1030  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: May 10, 2017, 11:35:39 PM
Hm affiliate earnings can go negative?  Shocked
Id like to say the same thing too that even affiliate earnings can be reduced or been lessen when your referral do win some amounts? Please do make things clear up  Grin

Both of you are promoting fortunejack but do not know how their affiliate earning works? The answer is yes, affiliate earning on Fortunejack can go negative if your referalls win. Afaik it is because affiliate earning on FJ is not counted from how much btc wagered made by referrals but it is from casinos profit. If referrals win means FJ is in a lost, so the affiliates. In other words, you have to wish that all your referrals lose many btc everyday if you want to earn from the affiliate program Grin

The fj affiliate system actually well built .
To avoid some user who referring themselves i guess the affiliate counting system based on casino profit sharing really fair.
Those people who complaining about how their affiliate earning went negative might not yet read fully the affiliate terms.
1031  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade shitcoins? on: May 10, 2017, 11:26:12 PM
Nope i do not trade shitcoins. But as per i know, shitcoins is an altcoin that becomes worthless day by day and also it turns out to be a scam operation. If you ask me, then i would suggest you not to trade with shitcoins. Because, it has a great risk to trade with this coin. Altcoins are the best to choose as trading.

If you check this link, you can see that there is no place for shitcoins. There are another coin with which you can go with long term investments.
https://coinmarketcap.com/

So, if you want to trade, do not trade shitcoins.
Yeaaa trade shitcoins is such as joining a MLM or ponzi scheme.
You might get profit if you do it in early days but it is never end with a good story .
Just think with that mindset and you will always try to avoid deal with shitcoins at all.

Shitcoins are no good at all in this industry actually, we all knew that, right? most of the shit was a ponzi scheme, but you will astonish why still shitcoins stand in the market, maybe because the greed people who are here in this community too I think.
That's why it called as shitcoin , as sooner or later the coin will get disappeared.
And even considered as a scam attempt behind since first day , people should be careful on placing huge amount.
Yeaaa mostly get greed when see there's a high daily volatile and they choose to get in the train, what a mistake!
1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have found a long term and strong dice strategy. on: May 10, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
Ya ya and we are totally going to believe you. Dice games are gambling and they are based on pure luck so any strategy like this won't help any of us.
You also mentioned in long run , in order to get this strategy working we will have to spend so much that even if this workd we will still be in loss.
Dice game is the quickest way to burn your money no matter what strategy you used.
No one will believe on this kind strategy , it will only make your time wasted .
Always better to gamble blindly in dice and walkaway no matter what the outcome it is , don't push yourself.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: May 10, 2017, 10:56:31 PM
Both can be utilized. If want to have fun, gambling may be an option. But if you love money you have earned from hard work, investing is the best choice.
Few people only who able to make gambling as a way to having fun.
Mostly hooked by the high winning potential that actually always leading to addiction in the end get lost instead get entertained.
Comparing both gamble and to invest is pretty contrast , people know which one better right?
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: May 10, 2017, 10:37:09 PM
For me gambling is not really a sin. It is how a person or the reason for people to play gambling makes it sinful. Any one who would play just for fun as long as you have not done anything wrong just to be able to gamble. Example is stealing money just to be able to play.


I wonder how many ignorant people will like to contribute to this thread. No matter what you think, it is a sin. Deal with it and just because you are saying that it is not, it doesnt mean it is not. At the end,everyone will be judge accordingly to what they have done. Im not saying that Im not a gambler, in fact I am and Im aware it is a sin

Yes. Sin is sin. Sin will not turn into "not sin" just because you say no. Even though you did not do the wrong thing during the play, for example as you already said, stealing in order to gamble. Gambling has gone wrong from the start, so even though you did not do anything wrong during the gamble, your mistakes are already in the beginning. Religion does forbid us to gamble, but can not hold someone from gambling. Options remain in each other.
actually most of the people do not have any sense of playing gambling they do not play according to strategy or planing, but in fact they play gambling for everything they have. and when they lose everything then they start thinking about how to get money and then they even do not refuse the bad idea like stealing, snatching and any other illegal way of earning money. so i think that is the reason that most of the religions state consider gambling illegal way of earning money.
Gambling is an easy way to earn money , no wonder it is much more easier too to waste that money at same time.
This is one of many reason gambling considered as a sin yeaaa causing a wasteful attitude.
And i a little bit agree with you , an effect that might happened due gambling addiction really harmful.

Addition is a sin and gambling is based in addiction, this means most gamblers can't run from the sin, as they are addicted in game. Another reason to be a sin is the greedy this game causes, greedy is a serious sin.
But you can gamble without sin, just don't be greedy and control yourself and you will be fine, balance, equilibrium is the key.
Seems like you are talking slurred here and there Huh
What i mean about gambling is a sin or maybe part of the process to produce a sin where it is usually causing bad things.
Break your realationship , take a loan and did not pay it and even leading into suicide in some cases.
If youre a type of person who doesnt strong enough to face the consequences that have been experiencing then for sure you will end up on doing suicide.Gambling too much will surely create this things later if you arent aware it will slowly destroy your life thats why we should really be careful on engaging to it,never ever believe that gambling could really make you rich.Sin will come out if you do already made things go wrong.
At the very beginning a lot of group / religion have considered gambling as a pure sin.
If you are one of the dutiful religous you might don't need to make this as a tough debate.
Too much negative things caused rather than the positive one , am i right?
1035  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: need best suggestion for trading on: May 10, 2017, 10:28:19 PM
i have known that trading is better than investment.
so for betterment, i want to make my btc executive in trading. plz suggest my the best way of trading.
I believe you need to understand that investment in bitcoin will be better than trading bitcoins as per I have experienced. But I'm not sure where you have learned that trading is better than investment. Maybe you are stating it more specific to altcoin investment and trading.

If you are planning to get into altcoin trading, I'm having few suggestions for better way of trading :
- investing in ICO in earlier days might ensure some definite profits as higher discounts are usually available on early days.
- most of the new coins perform well so you need to book profits as early as possible before first dump will happen.
- to avoid above problem, you can choose only high reputed altcoins like litecoin/eth/monero (just examples not exact suggestions).

Actually i heard much sound about ICO. Honestly saying, I don't have clear idea about ICO. please someone give a basic description about ICO.Then it will be much helpful to me. Anyway thanks all.
Usually ico held to develop a new crypto business such as to build a new altcoin .
Initial Coin Offerings (ICO) is another version of crowdfunding , basically it is almost same.
ICO shows how decentralized cryptocurrency it is , a hot business right now . You might want to grow your capital first on an ICO program before go trading.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC getting too expensive to gamble with on: May 10, 2017, 10:16:18 PM
indeed currently we have to spend more money for our capital because not only bitcoin and majority altcoin price also has been rise up but yes if we gamble use bitcoin the cost will more high than use altcoin but if you won it the profit also pretty much high and the real gamblers would not thinking too much for bitcoin price because their aim is how to satisfied their hobbies to gambling for everyday
That is right, compared to beginning days of this year, all the cryptocurrencies are trading almost double the value hence it is not appropriate to call bitcoin alone as too expensive to gamble. If people start avoiding bitcoins from their gambling, they must leave entire crypto based gambling industry as all the cryptocurrencies are tooo expensive right now to risk.
I really cannot see the reason why we have to switch to altcoin to gamble .
As altcoin itself adjusting with bitcoin price , in the end all of them will have same value just before bitcoin skyrocketed.
You might will feel gamble too much with bitcoin , but seriously simply you can use fiat counting when you do gamble with bitcoin.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: where it easier to win bitsler or pocket dice ? on: May 10, 2017, 10:03:08 PM
The lower the house edge, the easier is it to win! How much is the house edge at Pocket Dice?

1.9% house edge Pocket Dice.

Best option I found is 0.5% house edge, Safe Dice.
That's true , pocket dice has higher house edge and also not adjustable betting.
Quite boring when you cannot change the winning chance percentage just like dice sites in general.
Bitsler also called as the fastest roll but yeaaa safe dice looks like the lowest house and of course trustworthy.
1038  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: May 09, 2017, 11:48:33 PM
when i see that i am getting emotional, i want a short break from this world so most of the time i slumber.Sometimes i do not take care about this, do not think what is happening with me just with a big smile again start to run to my destination.

Taking a short break is one of the best way to manage your emotion. Because if you will not do something with your emotion that lead into frustration and if you started to trigger yourself with it, that is going to be a hard thing for you to recover. But if you know that you can cope up with it, just relax and take a break.
Yeaaa i think it will effective to hold yourself to become greedy to chase the lost .
Make yourself as comfortable as possible , don't put yourself underpressure otherwise things could go worse.
You need to think for future, not just temporarily , trading required a lot of patience as it is the key.
1039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: May 09, 2017, 11:41:17 PM
Gambling is a thing to do when I am bored at home and when I just feel relaxed wanting to do whatever I want. So I don't really want to have any negative feelings where I second guess if the results that I pick is right or not, it's all fun. The whole gambling experience is really fun to me and I can notice why I play it every so often because I have a calmer mood when doing so. I don't usually have a calm mood setting when playing other things.

But this is not true for every gambler. Some of them do really believe they are doing it for profit and this is their way of making a living. They don't realize this and they try to chase their losses and in the end they just lose more money than they ever before they entered into gambling. I guess it's a matter of perspective that is why we still gamble.
Gambling for a living is just a dream for most of the gamblers because it can never happen to all of us, what we read and see in the internet that there are people who are doing such might not be true so be careful with going to that direction.
Yeaaa in gambling you only given a temporary winning , you can not treat it as a source of income.
As in the next games you will recieve a random outcome which means you might lost or get another winning , noone will knows.
And that causing a lot of people put their expectation to chase the winning , it was fun but deadly too.

As quoted it's fun with deadly risk, because the winning hope keep the user in an vibrant mode to keep moving forward to win even if loss happens in between. We the users need to realize the reality and play accordingly without much greed and taking big risks by placing entire earning on single game.
Yeaaa i prefer to stake the entire balance i have on a single bet to see the real 50/50 chance.
Rather than have to wasting time to chase uncertain thing regularly .
Gamble only for once a week but with a huge amount then you will feel what the real gambling it is.
1040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: May 09, 2017, 04:42:42 PM
Most users have stated that experience doesn't matter while taking part into dice and other related events. This is fair, because most of the time luck overcomes the strategy developed by the user hoping for a win. With sports betting the scenario is different that based on the experience gained the winning chance can be increased.

And in sports betting the more experienced you've got, the more chance of winning. Because you know how to play with odds, you know how to do analysis for the teams that are going to play.
Not really true , sometimes the lucky one could beat those people who experienced one.
About the winning chance, a suggestion in your mind  always force you to keep believing that with experience you will have less chance to lost.
And that kind mindset actually wrong , gambling is gambling there will always an unexpected outcome which  it is a house edge for them.
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