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281  Economy / Securities / Re: MOORE: Mining Bond Beating the Moore's Law (Collecting Shareholder Data) on: January 03, 2013, 06:53:46 AM
Update

Sorry for a long period before last update but the ASICMINER project has taken most of the time and energy. The confirmations are nearly all-collected. The weekly payment of coupons will resume in 16th, Jan. 2013 in forum time.

As planned, the second time of rising the hashrate in each share will start at some time after the ASICMINER project succeeds its first deploying of hashpower.

In the long run, MOORE will be used either a mechanism of selling hashrates of ASICMINER, or stay as my personal contract to shareholders. Both are possible, but the decision is not at a highest priority in our short-term plan.
282  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: January 03, 2013, 06:31:33 AM
Update

The samples passed all functionality tests. The power consumption is also within the expected range. And as our overclocking tests had shown, they still have a lot of potentials compared to our original spec. This means that the biggest risk of our project is gone and our NRE is a fruitful spend.

The first production batch of chips will be out of the packaging service tomorrow. Our deploying is on its way.

+1 for fast migration to a trading platform.
+1 for faster sending of confirmation email that I own my shares


-1 for migration to a trading platform.

If it is not done in block chain with colored coins, or similar manner, please do not. It just will get busted, and create another mess like GLBSE. If we can trade it by using block chain +1.

Except friedcat was just going to run his own just for asicminer.
Briefly yes. But the new platform is not owned by us. We have more control to it than other third-party platforms. It's also more secure and easier to audit/monitor than others. We couldn't give an exact timeline but also as said before it will be before our first dividend payment, which is in the very near future since the first mining farm using self-designed ICs in the world is about to be born.
283  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 28, 2012, 02:17:07 AM
Update

Here is the good news:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91173.msg1422891#msg1422891

And sorry for the delay of confirming the rest shareholder information caused by the
job of testing, troubleshooting and deploying, but we will do it very soon.
284  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter: Dedicated Mining ASIC Project (Open for Discussion) on: December 28, 2012, 02:13:43 AM
Update

After a long and anxious waiting, we have finally got our packaged chip samples at hand. Everyone would be busy in the following 2-3 weeks.

The following pics are taken from my cellphone.

30GHash/s of computing power on one table:


Top and bottom side of the chips:


A closer look at our baby:



285  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 22, 2012, 06:25:48 AM
Update

This is again a quick update.

We received (again) the revised version of shareholders' information from GLBSE.
The difference is that this time the whole number finally adds up. So if its data is
indeed correct, it should contain all shareholders' information, including those who
refused to share their information with the asset issuers. Therefore we will base the
shareholder data on the new version.

Update
1. Our wafers are already in the slicing and packaging service. Whether we could beat everyone else in early delivering, or we have to revise and redo the wafers, will be known within the next two weeks.

An encouraging update! It means the chips at least passed the QC at the fab, and that slicing+packaging+testing is already under way. I'm hungry for more info, please return soon and fill in more blanks:
1) Recovered the ~5000 BTC from GLBSE yet? (I would like to just stop worrying about it...)
2) Did the fab really process 12 layers in 7 days, or was it simply information delay?? [Dec 05: "There are 12 layers left", Dec 12: "we are now in QC"]
3) What is the reason for deploying the second half of the chips later than the first? [Genuine question, I'm simply not smart enough that the reasons are obvious to me!]

I think I can say on behalf of all (at least many/most) stakeholders: Thanks, congrats, and keep up the great work!
1) GLBSE still owes us money, but the total debt is much less than 5000BTC. As I promised before, the rest debt is restructured as: GLBSE owes me, and I owe the company. If we fail to get the rest debts back I would be responsible for paying back to the company.
2) As far as we know it's not information delay. It's because the foundry sped up in the later stage (called "bullet" in their jargon) and the last 12 layers are way different.
3) It's for fail-tolerance. The second half of the chips stayed at the stage that has 14 layers left, to allow further modifications if the first batch of chips fail to work due to design or manufacturing flaws that are fixable without re-doing the whole mask.
286  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 19, 2012, 06:07:25 AM
Update

This is a quick update. Please expect more details soon.

1. Our wafers are already in the slicing and packaging service. Whether we could beat everyone else in early delivering, or we have to revise and redo the wafers, will be known within the next two weeks.

2. All shareholders who have ambiguous Bitcoin addresses will receive the confirmation mails within this week.

3. We will make ASICMINER re-hosted after the confirmations, as well as the platform decided. It will not be later
than our first deploying and the first payment to shareholders.
287  Economy / Securities / Re: MOORE: Mining Bond Beating the Moore's Law (Collecting Shareholder Data) on: December 19, 2012, 05:53:41 AM
Update

This is a quick update indicating that:

1. Confirmation mails have been sent to all shareholders who have different Bitcoin addresses claimed to GLBSE and to us.
2. All newly generated coupons are still accumulated into the first big payment when 2 is done.

More updates will be given soon.
288  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 12, 2012, 11:49:02 AM
Update

There are several news:

1. The process of our rest layers are significantly faster, we are now in QC and expecting to have the wafer arrived at our packaging service next week. Then the slicing, packaging, and testing will start immediately.

2. The shares are under processing. Shareholders (determined per e-mail address) offering different addresses to GLBSE and to us will receive a confirmation mail asking which to use or whether changing to a newer one. And we also hope to identify the shareholders who claim both different e-mail addresses and different addresses as many as possible. The principle would basically be:
  1) If the shareholder has both claimed to GLBSE and to us, we will use the share number provided from GLBSE.
  2) If during analysis, the shareholder hasn't claimed to GLBSE but claimed to us, we will keep a separate list and see if it should be merged.
  3) If the shareholder hasn't claimed to us but claimed to GLBSE, we will of course use the GLBSE data.

Only important and relevant parts are:

1) When those chips are ready, is it guaranteed they actually work or will there be a random testing?

2) Will this happen before or after the shipping to ASICMINER team?

3) How many chips (%) to you think will be lemons?

Do not get too exited about the rest Smiley
1) There will be QC guaranteeing offering basic qualification, but the testing(functional, electronic, thermo) will be first done by us. After that, part of the testing (functional) will be done by the same company that does packaging for us.

2) After the shipping.

3) They would consider a 2/3 yield rate a non-failed one. However in most circumstances the rates are much higher than this bottom line. Made-in-China of course are connected with the impression of lower quality, but calculating with a whole project should put the overall cost into consideration. TSMC has higher threshold for newcomer clients and is less affordable.

As far as I remember, friedcat considered building a proprietary ASICMINER platform for listing and trading shares. As listing on all the alternitve centralized exchanges with their ponzis comes with risk, I think a proprietary platform is the best solution. We don't even know the exact reasons why glbse went down! Do you really want to ride the same horse again?

A proprietary exchange sounds great.

I think it's going to be important to get shares listed and actively available to trade before anything is produced by the company.

Right now it's in a state of limbo and no shareholders have any proof of ownership at all. This will change once it's listed somewhere. I think it's important to fully establish share ownership prior to the production of any ASIC devices / mining activity.
Yes. And we are working towards it. First we need to sort the actual data out from what we have now. We have a close partner working on a new platform that is considerably safer than GLBSE due to its more secure structure. And of course existing platforms like btc.co are also sound options. It is also optional for each shareholder to join the platform or to lock the shares in with us.
289  Economy / Securities / Re: MOORE: Mining Bond Beating the Moore's Law (Collecting Shareholder Data) on: December 10, 2012, 05:43:14 AM
Could you set this up again on btct.co ?

+1
We will set it up on another platform, but not necessarily btct.co.

And before that, I will first make the accumulated payment as soon as I finish comparing and confirming the
GLBSE data with the user claims, of which both are incomplete.
290  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 07, 2012, 06:04:33 AM
http://blog.glbse.com/

According to Nefario, ASICMINER list has been sent!
We confirm it. They are sent as two different .yml files. We will merge them and compare them with our older claims, then make them online in another platform.
291  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 07, 2012, 06:02:55 AM
I assume this second batch of 50TH/s be distributed amongst the shareholders? What is the status with Nefario?
They are either directly distributed to shareholders, or sold as physical devices/bonds. In the latter case, we would
pay all of the net profits to shareholders, or some of them if the shareholders agree to keep a portion as growing funds.

to put simply, to create the physical ASIC goes something like this.

sign contract -> submit GDS for review -> mask making -> wafer making -> ship to packaging company -> packaging -> shipping.
Only then can the chips be in your hands or placed on PCB for finalization.
This description is also very accurate for our case, except that we located the PCB assembly in the same city as the packaging service's. It would keep us away from some shipping time via inter-city third-party expresses.

This whole process will take 30-50 days depending on the processor node technology used, mainly due to the increasing in layer number as you go down in processor size. for example, we have 29 layers, and since TSMC is one of the big companies in fabrication, each layer take 1.2 ( normal lot ) day per layer. in addition, accordingly to friedcat, their fab is producing 4 layers every week [odd, but I guess it is possible if fab is small].
Our fab describes 1.4-1.5 day per layer as "hot-run" and 1.1-1.2 as "super hot-run" or "bullet". We guess the difference comes mainly from the usage rate of the production lines older than 90nm. Since there are still many orders from mainland China that are 90-130nm, the lines are busy, as said by the foundry. TSMC on the other side, deals with more orders more state-of-the-art, would be capable of process 90-130nm orders faster since the corresponding lines are less busy. Of course this is also only a conjecture.

There is no such thing as a fabrication company giving a "fuzzy" date when it comes to when the chips will come from the assembly line. The only number that can vary is the shipping time from the fabrication company to the packaging company, but even that is no more than a few days of difference, depending on the shipping method.
They indeed give an projected date accurate to a certain day, but this does not mean that the date is not "fuzzy". For example, the date estimation was adjusted to a earlier one after our progress had sped up.

What has to be done after the foundry process (packaging etc)? How long till the chips can start mining? Any idea?

This is an important question. Once we have the chips, we need a fully-working PCB to put them on, correct? What's the status on this, along with whatever else we need to get up and hashing?
The PCB's out and tested using artificial signals (using a software-controlled source of signal to simulate the chips). The place for our first batch's deploying is also located. The first chip starting mining will be very early if the chips are correct (no more than a week after we get the chips), but the whole 12TH/s of our first batch would be online incrementally. So the process if our chips are successfully tested would be:
testing boards running &
samples sent to community &
(more than) 50TH/s more orders to the fab &
Next-gen design started
(~2-3 weeks)
First 6TH/s online
(~2-3 weeks)
Second 6TH/s online
(~0-4 weeks)
50TH/s of chips out
(~2-3 weeks, ~2-5 weeks if location changes)
Part or all of the 50TH/s online
(~uncertain yet time)
Part or none of the 50TH/s productionized and for sale &
Third batch of mass production done &
Next-gen chips' order sent to the fab
292  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 05, 2012, 06:19:02 AM
Update

By the way... when asicminer has ordered 29 layers, that means 29 asics at the end right? So you run 29 asics shortly after you received it. But how many asics does bfl get with their first batch?
We will run about 6TH/s after we received them, and another 6TH/s about 2-4 weeks later. The accurate hashrate depends on the yield rate and how well we push our chips to their limits.

And is another batch already ordered at the foundry or do you wait until you tested the previous? I only mean when it takes months for one order to fulfill it would mean a long waiting time until more asics will come.
We would wait the testing of the previous batch to order the second. The second batch would be 50TH/s or more, depending on the status of their production line in the first season of 2013.

I wonder... with over thousand shares... can one become a member in the board? The next assetlists are overdue so it shouldnt take long until my claims are proven.
As decided at the IPO time, one 5,000 shares to be a board member.

I apologize if this has been answered; what steps will be taking place in China, and what will be done elsewhere after shipping and customs clearance? Specifically, I would like to know about packaging, assembly, and self-mining.
For the first generation of products, all steps have been taking place and will happen in China. This including chips production, PCB production, slicing & packaging, assembly, and deploying, in different places though. For example, while the production is in where the foundries are, we have more freedom to choose a place with very inexpensive power source to do self-mining.

Friedcat, any updates? What does "had become quicker" mean? I know, you can also just rely on info provided by the foundry, but is "had become quicker" really it?? Seems similar to Nefario's schedule of providing share holder lists Smiley
There are 12 layers left, which means that the last financial week we progressed for 4 layers.
293  Economy / Securities / Re: MOORE: Mining Bond Beating the Moore's Law (Collecting Shareholder Data) on: November 28, 2012, 07:28:48 AM
Update

Could you set this up again on btct.co ?
We will set MOORE up again with MU and ASICMINER. We will decide which one to switch when the shareholder data
is more or less fixed. With our own collection of shareholder information, we have only collected 1,295 shares out of the
total 3,958 shares in circulation. So we would like to wait for the information from GLBSE and come up with a more complete
set.

Here is the recent update from GLBSE:
Quote
Nov 25 / 12:00pm
More lists coming out tomorrow
by James McCarthy

I'll be sending out updated lists by tomorrow afternoon.

Ther will also be some new lists sent out for some issuers.

Got a lot of email over the weekend, if I've not replied please bear with me, I'm a bit snowed under.

He already gave out a couple of lists worth some days. Taking out the last weekend he isnt way too behind his plans. I hope its this way... at least he is still in contact.
Nefario is not in contact as usual, but one of his friends is. We got the information of "I think he has released most of the major stock classes funds" today, but haven't received anything in our mailbox. We have checked again with our account name provided and are waiting for responses.

The upgrade plan still holds. The shares will be upgraded no matter our ASICMINER succeeds soon or not. But the upgraded hash/share will depend on whether we use our own hardware or other vendors.
294  Economy / Securities / Re: MOORE: Mining Bond Beating the Moore's Law (Collecting Shareholder Data) on: November 28, 2012, 07:06:46 AM
24th and 25th Week's Coupon Pre-Calculation

Calculation time: November 28, 06:57:22 forum time

Number of difficulty change: 1
Number of block reward change: 0

Time interval:

  Starting from: November 15, 04:57:47
  Ending at: November 26, 11:08:37
  Total time: 972650s
  Difficulty: 3,368,767.14

  Starting from: November 26, 11:08:37
  Ending at: November 28, 06:57:22
  Total time: 157725s
  Difficulty: 3,438,908.96

Hashrate of this week: 1.43805

coupon/share = (1.43805*10^6)/(2^32)*(972650*50/3,368,767.14+157725*50/3,438,908.96)=0.0056014

Number of Shares: 3958

Total Payment: 75.3694234 (last accumulated) + 22.1703412 (recent two weeks) = 97.5397646

(The payment will be linearly accumulated till we are able to pay)
295  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: November 28, 2012, 06:52:51 AM
Update

Quote
Nov 25 / 12:00pm
More lists coming out tomorrow
by James McCarthy

I'll be sending out updated lists by tomorrow afternoon.

Ther will also be some new lists sent out for some issuers.

Got a lot of email over the weekend, if I've not replied please bear with me, I'm a bit snowed under.

He already gave out a couple of lists worth some days. Taking out the last weekend he isnt way too behind his plans. I hope its this way... at least he is still in contact.
Nefario is not in contact as usual, but one of his friends is. We got the information of "I think he has released most of the major stock classes funds" today, but haven't received anything in our mailbox. We have checked again with our account name provided and are waiting for responses.

@friedcat: you mentioned that the foundry provides a detailed status update on the processing of the chips. At which stage are the chips right now?
They are at the stage of wafer-process, which is the last one before slicing and packaging, and is the most time-consuming. They have finished 13 layers out of the total 29, and there are 16 layers to go. The speed was originally very low (1-2 layers a week), and had become quicker in recent weeks.

Good news for the ASICMINER project. Another one of the main competitors experiences significant delays.
https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=125.0

That - and given the reputation of BFL for underestimating the delay times - gives ASICMINER the whole month of december to get the operation started and still be the first with ASICs on the network.

@friedcat: you mentioned that the foundry provides a detailed status update on the processing of the chips. At which stage are the chips right now?

Unless we suffer from similar issues, which is not unlikely. I am sure our engineering team did their best, but so did the competitors - and yet mistakes happen. Building ASICs is a complex project for small entities.
Yes. An IC project needs many factors to be successful. As the technology improves, the interconnection between the design and the manufacturing becomes subtler, causing many projects not able to succeed in their first try. We picked the very conservative and mature 130nm as our choice, reducing unexpected factors to the least.

I would like to hear the newest estimated times for shipping from foundry too.
While the foundry haven't not give out the estimated time, our foundry agent did. The person in charge gave us the oral promise of December, but not as an extra formal deadline in the contract.

A mail to the board has also been sent to reply and discuss the revising of the business plan. Board members please post your advices if you have some time. Thanks.
296  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: November 21, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
... software? ... Smiley
So to repeat this question with, I guess, more info, coz it wasn't obvious what I meant (and no one replied) Smiley

What software are you using?
We are very sorry for our misunderstanding. We are using an older version of TheSeven's Bitcoin miner written in Python as the code base to run our test boards. It had been also used for testing when we were in the FPGA verification phase. However, since the chips are not out yet, we are running with artificial unreal signals without the actual chips producing them. So "our part" of specialization/optimization couldn't be done without real chips providing real statistics.

We chose it because we wanted to focus on the hardware and spend less time on fixing the code. It may be totally abandoned and switched to a C-written miner if we couldn't push the number of mining boards each controller board could handle high enough with the overhead of the Python interpreter.

...

Edited with the right quote marks, as it was Friedcat who said it, not me
I completely forgot about that post.
Oops. Sorry.

But yeah I guess I asked again coz things are getting close to deadlines and I've actually not heard from any of the ASIC developers yet.
I'd have thought at least one of them would have sorted out their firmware by now, but not even a whisper yet.

BFL will be sending me to their factory when things are ready, and Tom will be sending me a a bASIC once they have the dev devices ready.
Like most everyone else, I'm getting a little agitated waiting Smiley and will not be surprised if we're given zero time to get the software ready Tongue
We are very sorry but it is now hard to achieve the projected date given by the time we were doing the design, because of the delay from our chip manufacturer.

With respect to the firmware, that is, software running on each mining board's controller MCU, there are no reason why we couldn't make them public except that they are not final. What we would like to keep secret is the RTL design, which contains a lot of optimizations. Everything else will be open since they are almost straightforward.

So the community will get the firmware immediately after we get a really running version with real chips. We are sorry again for the original estimated date and the current slower progress.

(though I've almost completed the new internal libraries to use direct USB rather than Serial-USB to help with performance and to hopefully simplify ASIC implementations)
Would you mind if you could PM us for some more details please? We are doing everything we could to make sure we are not the cause of the critical path of the whole project and reduce the whole deploying time. So we will be very glad if we could get any help and idea from you. Smiley
297  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: November 21, 2012, 05:49:27 AM
Update

It might bee too much work to keep the first post constantly up to date, but perhaps it would be good to remove obviously outdated information, such as the dates when mining will start?

Thanks
We are very sorry for the delay of chips delivery. The OP was initially created to raise funds. Now it should used for other purposes like general information. However, the current OP also serves as a detailed version of the contract. With GLBSE unable to recover the contract text, we ask for people to first quote it several times before we make a significant change to it.

any progress on the project itself? I'm just wondering why the foundry ia not giving any reliable estimates of when this will be done - even if there are magnitudes larger orders.
Yes. The wafer process is done layer by layer and we could see the progress on track. We began receiving software generated excel updates from the foundry bypassed through our foundry agent showing the production status almost every workday.

Nefario is supplying the asset info starting with the largest assets in descending order

So I guess Friedcat should get a userlist pretty soon

http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists

This is very good news!!!
Nice. We will keep people updated whenever we receive them.

It's rather close to the total shares in circulation before GLBSE was shut down. If there are no significant refusal or missing of claims, we truly admire the honesty of claimers as a whole.

If you are actually sent the GLBSE data you can even shame those who falsely made claims.
And you should. I hope all asset issuers publicly name all people who made false claims.

I second that... would be a really low person when someone tried to scam you even when you went so far to solve this issue...
It is in principle not able to 100% distinguish false claims with wrong claims caused by dynamic open orders and inaccurate memory. So we would rather not to make them open, especially that we don't have the right to publicize information with the owners want them be private.
298  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: November 19, 2012, 04:44:17 AM
friedcat... could you tell whats the result of all the claimed shares summarized? How honest were the claimer? Are way more claimed than sold or maybe even less for some reason?

I have to say... i tried the last days to contact nefario and to find his new address. Email, phone, different other phonenumbers from phonebook, messenger and so on. I wasnt successful. He didnt react in any way which i think is poor because stopping communication can only make things worse. I could understand if nefario dont want to read or hear anything anymore because all the hate he gets but giving up shouldnt be an option.

Anyway... im very glad that at last i had invested in asicminer. It seems to be the only issuer that tries to solve the problems even without nefario acting. Too bad that nefario is acting this way... i mean its not hard to give daily updates on the things he does. And its not cool to hear that some people that got a double payment even now didnt get an email with an address where to pay back the double payment.
The total sum is a little over 150k, with some claims are ranges instead of accurate numbers. It's rather close to the total shares in circulation before GLBSE was shut down. If there are no significant refusal or missing of claims, we truly admire the honesty of claimers as a whole.

This data will be used if GLBSE fails to deliver us their version before we start to mine and pay our dividends. Of course, it is still much better that we could get the GLBSE data and we will never have to use it.
299  Economy / Securities / Re: MOORE: Mining Bond Beating the Moore's Law (Collecting Shareholder Data) on: November 15, 2012, 05:51:00 AM
23rd Week's Coupon Pre-Calculation

Calculation time: November 15, 04:57:47 forum time

Number of difficulty change: 1
Number of block reward change: 0

Time interval:

  Starting from: November 7, 10:40:22
  Ending at: November 12, 17:51:11
  Total time: 457849s
  Difficulty: 3,304,356.39

  Starting from: November 12, 17:51:11
  Ending at: November 15, 04:57:47
  Total time: 212796s
  Difficulty: 3,368,767.14

Hashrate of this week: 1.42536

coupon/share = (1.42536*10^6)/(2^32)*(457849*50/3,304,356.39+212796*50/3,368,767.14)=0.0033473

Number of Shares: 3958

Total Payment: 62.12081 (last accumulated) + 13.2486134 (this week) = 75.3694234

(The payment will be linearly accumulated till we are able to pay)
300  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: November 14, 2012, 12:10:18 PM
Update

GLBSE

nefario still is not complying with requests for shareholder information and, independently, he may or may not be facing prison time for violating financial laws in the UK. Everyone wants his head on a stick, next to pirate's and zhoutong's.
Our newest knowledge tells us that the law-violating risk for him is not as critical as this. However, it is still true that we haven't got the
timeline for the shareholder information.

It'll next be ... I got a virus and it deleted my spread sheet/database/text file ...
If the subject is us, we have more backups: we have printed version of the spreadsheet and we are also keeping it on our mailbox. If it's GLBSE, while we also believe the probability is low, our collection of claims deals with exactly this kind of scenario.

It might be a good idea to send confirmation e-mail to claimants a few days before the deadline. What if the e-mail was lost somewhere in the pipes? I wouldn't want to lose my shares because of a typo I made.
+100
Yes it is. We will send confirmation e-mail to claimants we haven't sent confirmation mails to.

AFAIK friedcat plans to setup a new way for automatically trading ASICMINER shares. At that point, small investments (<100) should be possible again.
Yes. Besides, larger investors could still choose to lock your shares in and let us manually maintain them if you don't trust the new platform.

The Project
The in-foundry production is still going on and the status shown from the foundry updates is active. As explained here before:

The foundry processes many orders that are magnitudes larger than that of ASICMINER or any other ASIC mining device projects. If companies at our size are allowed to fight dirty against each other within their production house, big players like cellphone microprocessor producers will make much more serious mess. So we don't think it's possible.

And also, as far as we know, there are no competitors using the same foundry as ours.

As far as we know, there are no conspiracy against our project from any competitors or interest groups. What we are experiencing is a busier pipeline from the production house.
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