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521  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BetFury.io Scam on: November 19, 2020, 02:54:13 PM

Let them show any evidence such as connection via IP on your referral that they are claiming that done manipulation. There are other casino that do this before on user that has tons of referral in there account. I will support you on this accusation once they don't have evidence to support their claims about your referral.

GL

Absolutely fine. The question is if they are even going to bother to respond here?
They don't seem to care at all about their business practice.

Can't believe we fell into that.
522  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 19, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
does this include faucets? if it is. as far as I know, there is some really good gambling site that has a faucet feature that doesn't need you to wager, deposit or become a VIP etc.. in order to start claiming. I would not mention names since it would be for the best to see it on your own without any suggestion what gambling site has it or has the best.

Yes, faucets can be included, many of them have gambling games as well.

PM Sent. Thanks a lot.
523  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BetFury.io Scam on: November 19, 2020, 02:44:06 PM
So BetFury replied in their official thread and not here - this is what they said:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.msg55631179#msg55631179
"BetFury's anti-fraud system deleted the data of accounts that were seen in manipulating with the referral system and withdrawing from Free Box."

This is what we replied to them:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.msg55631691#msg55631691

They are absolutely a scam, what kind of practice is it?!
If you give away something for free then stand behind it, and if you want to stop it then stop it but you shouldn't ERASE REFERRALS.

BetFury has now officially admitted they DELETE REFERRALS if they want to!!
524  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|⚡️Free BTC|⚡️$3mln Divs paid|⚡️$200K Jackpots|⚡️$1mln Cashback on: November 19, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
BetFury's anti-fraud system deleted the data of accounts that were seen in manipulating with the referral system and withdrawing from Free Box.

We sent you genuine users from our faucets and you delete them as if they are worthless just because they chose to collect Bitcoin from the Free Box. What kind of practice is it?
If you don't want to give away free money then make the Free Box for users who are Level 2 and higher, or find ways to protect the "quality" of users who use your Free Box - what you did is a blatant scam and fraud yourself.

And FYI:



We worked with FreeBitco.in for years now, accumulating over 90k referrals - they never deleted any of these referrals or came up with an excuse saying "your referrals are withdrawing money from our site so we are going to delete them".

They have a good business practice.
You absolutely don't.

I'm sorry but your practices are immoral, unscrupulous and dishonest, this is not the right way to handle your business!

525  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 19, 2020, 11:06:13 AM
i am always open to hear some picks for games or bonus money or promotions but the only condition for me is that i do not have to make any deposits

Sure, we are on the lookout for No Deposit Bonus schemes.
526  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|⚡️Free BTC|⚡️$3mln Divs paid|⚡️$200K Jackpots|⚡️$1mln Cashback on: November 19, 2020, 09:33:50 AM
BetFury has erased over 3,400 referrals from our account - I have no idea why and I'd like to hope this is a technical issue and not something else, but adding an insult to our injury, the Free Box Ref commissions is now terrible, something with our account got completely messed up and their support don't seem to care.

I'm sorry but I had to open a scam accusation against this - and would appreciate if someone from BetFury will care to reply and explain what happened.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291087.0

527  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 19, 2020, 09:31:25 AM
Congratulations, I really like the information you give on your site, actually I could do it in my favorites, it is a great initiative that you carry out, there were a couple of things that I was not aware of.

Thanks for your feedback!  Smiley


I think a more appropriate headline on the site would be "Get Free Money FOR GAMBLING From Gambling Websites", in the end the only thing you can do with that "free money" is to try to gamble it and only if you win something you will be able to withdraw (if there's not "you need to deposit before withdrawing in ToS)!

I will reply to both of you because you repeat more or the less the same thing:

What I'd like to see on this website is clarity around the 'terms and conditions' of these money claims, as most of these are probably only available to members who can spend all of that money on the respective platforms rather than just being able to withdraw and move on.

No, no.
This is exactly the misunderstanding you have here.

The sites we promote do not force you to gamble the money, they don't force you to risk the money, you are free to take it and it's yours, use it for whatever purposes you want. We made some nice income from these sites and we haven't felt the need to gamble that money away.

I will mention this again - we only promote sites that give away free money without hassles.

It does look like we might want to focus on some more faucets and other ways of getting extra income, simply because there aren't many gambling websites that do this - but it's a decision we would have to make later on as we've already decided to focus on gambling sites - but let's see how things would move along.



Brandon Nakashima to win vs Roberto Cid Subervi at 1.18 is the only pick that's settled so far, which closed at 1.25 (vig included) or 1.31 (vig removed). You claimed that your pick had value, but .... it's definitely a poor start.

For now we would just leave it the way it is, in reference to your question.

Now I am not sure why a winning bet has no value, if the pick was a losing pick then it would have no value but Brandon Nakashima won and he won comfortably in 2 sets just like was mentioned in the article as well.

It's quite also impossible to predict all the sporting outcomes correctly, if I was able to do this myself I would have simply left all my jobs and just do this for living but we can't read the future - the goal is to provide as many good predictions as possible, to cherry pick them - the value is in the eyes of the bettor...

e.g. you could have picked Zverev yesterday who was a 1.35 favorite to win against Schwartzman .... now if someone had a pick and said pick Zverev to win - would you criticize that someone how come Zverev was worth 2.00 in live betting during the 3rd set and you should have taken these 2.00 odds instead of the 1.35 prematch? (during the 2nd set Zverev already was 1.005 in Bet365 by the way). There is no way to tell what kind of fluctuations are going to be made during a match, you should judge a pick by the final score.

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One more thing I'd like to mention as a personal note.

We worked hard to promote BetFury in the past few weeks, we had over 3,600 referrals with them, and even with this very site we already prepared videos recorded from BetFury and much more.

The fact they erased our referrals today is a huge slap in our face, we won't post about this in the blog yet but at the moment you can see all the details here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291087.0

This hurts very much to be hit by a website like this, let's hope they can fix the issue and explain what happened, but I am not sure if we could have our hopes for this to be done, but it really hurts in all aspects, not only financially.
528  Economy / Scam Accusations / BetFury.io RESOLVED - With Thanks! on: November 19, 2020, 03:30:42 AM
What happened::

We run many faucets where we send mailings to our users to inform them about new sites. We dedicated lots of time, energy and more to promote BetFury.io and we had over 3,600 referrals. I never took a screenshot to show we had over 3,600 referrals (and never thought I'd need to do so) but I do have a screenshot showing I asked support why the referral commissions from the box is showing 0.0000000 BTC before this incident occurred:



And:



And:



As you can see in the screenshots provided above we did have over 3,600 referrals (I'm Sure BetFury can and should admit this is true!), and yes, our main niche was telling users in our faucets that this specific site (BetFury) is giving away Free 25 Satoshi every 20 minutes ... you can see here what we got from those referrals:



But some of these players also played in BetFury, after all BetFury is giving away this free money in order to entice the users to play in their site, and we did tell the users "The more you play - the more dividends you get for life" (those BFG tokens) - we had some nice activity there likewise:



The issue is as you can see in the last screenshot - all of a sudden, yesterday, 18-NOV-2020, BetFury has changed, without notice - the number of referrals linked to our account - so instead of having 3,600 referrals it shows we have only 283 referrals! (it was 269 when we first noticed it but as you can see we got 14 more, now we have completely stopped the promotion of BetFury)

Scammers Profile Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2848599

Reference Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276159.0

Amount Scammed:

It's hard to tell how much was scammed, it's more like "how much we will be scammed of in the future" because future commissions they owe us will be far lowered in comparison to what they should be.

These are not only "Free Box" commissions, we had 360 pages of referrals and many users they "deleted" could have made us referral commissions by playing more in their site and now these won't be counted!



Users like the ones shown in this screenshot - their wagers won't be counted towards our legit and valid profits. BetFury has simply wiped out over 3,400 accounts that signed up under us!!!!


Payment Method:

Usually Bitcoin but we had some TRX/BTT due to us as well. In Tether we made fractions and I can admit they owe us almost nothing in Tether. (although who knows if some of these users in the future would deposit via Tether and play)

Proof of Payment:

I am copy-pasting the format from the "Scam Report" page, I don't think this is relevant to this case.

PM/Chat Logs:

Provided above as part of the "What happened" section.
This is the last conversation I had with them about 1-2 hours ago:



They promised to contact me via email, I don't mind they do but in the meantime I am not going to remain silent about this blatant scam of theirs, wiping out so much hard work!

Additional Notes:

I would also like to mention just 2 days ago we created GamblingFreebies.com and we announced it here as well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290334.0

This site doesn't have a lot of traffic but as you can see we did reserve a nice spot for BetFury and had plans to promote them long term. What they did to us is simply a slap in the face. It's totally unacceptable.

One more thing you need to take into consideration - specifically yesterday (18.11.2020) they also changed the amount they give out from their "Free Box" so instead of paying out 25 Satoshi every 20 minutes they now pay out 10 Satoshi every 20 minutes. Suffice to say the referral commissions we now get from this box with less than 300 referrals and only 10 sats is so small:



I noticed yesterday something was wrong with it but seems to me they paid too much Free Money so they now punish the referrer which in this case is ourselves - which is completely unfair and unscrupulous.

I personally never planned or imagined to have a scam accusation myself against a gambling site, I did participate in the past in this forum in other people's threads but personally I never imagined I would have a claim against a website, I am trying to avoid getting into a clash with another site and mind my own business, but this is absolutely a slap in the face and this is why I'm posting it here.

We've also just now posted this in our Twitter with over 75k followers:
https://twitter.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1329266545651048448?s=20
529  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 18, 2020, 07:42:38 PM
May I know if your strategies are guaranteed that can surely help the gamblers to earn a profit or have you tested it already? How much is the winning percentage of your strategies?

We've uploaded videos where we play these strategies. Keep in mind no strategy in the world would help you make a casino go bankrupt (well, except for lawsuits). The strategies provided in the site are provided in order to help you get more bonuses.

When you get bonuses you can get an edge. For example if you use a certain website and you need to roll over $1,000 in order to get a bonus then instead of risking $1,000 on one single bet which is risky - you can risk $100 and play the strategy on a super fast mode with $0.0001 per bet.

Is it guaranteed to win? No, but you are very likely going to cross that $1,000 wagering requirement before you lose your $100 balance. That is perhaps a "safe" thing to assume but in gambling nothing is 100% safe, there is always some element of luck or of some randomness and you can't avoid it. (In this given example only a result of 20 straight losses would cause you to lose your balance).

530  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|⚡️Free BTC|⚡️$3mln Divs paid|⚡️$200K Jackpots|⚡️$1mln Cashback on: November 18, 2020, 06:17:44 PM
This is bitconnect with games.

Are you saying BetFury = BitConnect?
531  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 18, 2020, 12:07:14 PM
We've posted a new prediction for the upcoming NFL game - Thursday Night Football (TNF) - Seattle Seahawks vs Arizona Cardinals:

https://gamblingfreebies.com/2020/11/18/seahawks-vs-cardinals-19-nov-2020/

Good luck!  Wink
532  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 18, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
For many people it is especially important that a bookmaker also gives away things for free, without having to do anything in return. You often see promotions and bonuses when a user has lost a lot.
Most are not waiting for that.

Are you referring to that user who won 0.3 BTC from SportsBet.io?

Yes, it's our intention to look for websites that are giving freebies, things for free - for now all the sites we found are listed there. If there more sites we haven't listed which you know about please do let us know as we would be happy to expand the current portfolio.
533  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 18, 2020, 09:31:27 AM
That's a good thing as clearly it will be a disaster as people still traumatized from them. Thanks for hearing the suggestion and maybe everyday posting some new promotions will make your site more popular and it will even more popular because people do love free. By the way, is this the only site you promoting that's related to gambling or there are more?

Thanks for your feedback.
Yes, for now that is the only we're promoting in relation to gambling.
534  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 18, 2020, 09:05:28 AM
hoping they just list trusted ones because if ever a gambling site that is untrusted here example 1xbit for sure the site will be criticized

Absolutely. We are totally aware who 1XBit are, and we will never promote them or any shady site that is unreliable. Only trusted ones will be added to the site.


the most important thing is that suggestions from other people must be accepted a lot.

Sure.


Sportsbet.io has the most bonuses of any sportsbook I played on. I won a big prize there a few weeks ago (0.3 BTC) for only playing with 0.1 MBTC,,, plus get many freebets from promotions. I see no competition in terms of bookies.

How did you get from spending a few dollars to winning over $5,000 ? Was it pure luck you won this 0.3 BTC or is there more to it? How is Stake.com in comparison to SportsBet.io in your view?
535  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 18, 2020, 03:44:21 AM
The intention of the site is not bad, it has a lot of gambling information and strategies, but it's necessary to diversify the number of sites.
In the fact, I believe that your site wins more in REF than the user himself earns from the bonuses disclosed there, but it is a fair service.

Now just increase your portfolio and add a dark theme to the site.

Thanks for your feedback.  Smiley
Of course, more will be added and you will be informed whenever new stuff is up.

Regarding the design - do you not like the current theme? (White background)
536  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 17, 2020, 04:01:35 PM
I read article on your website ans you state that martingale is the best strategy to beat the house once you find the real provably fair casino.
It's totally wrong!

Please see this:

https://gamblingfreebies.com/game/dice/

Quote from the page:
It is impossible of course to guarantee you won’t hit a streak of 40+ losses, but as long as the game is provably fair then the operator has no way to do that to you intentionally i.e. it just won’t happen. So if you use your bankroll wisely like this you would accumulate more winnings as well as more points or bonuses.

There is a clear emphasis the system is not meant to break the house, you can't break the house unless perhaps you have millions and would play it super safe and then you might grab a lot from the house, but the point of the site is not to tell you that you can't beat the house, but instead - it's providing tools and ideas how to maximize profits.

For instance, in FreeBitco you can grab a bonus but you need to wager the bonus 25x times before it's yours - so with the martingale system you can do it in a safer way than you taking a few shots in the dark and either win or lose the whole lot.



Wouldn't it have been wiser to create another account with the new domain name?
Maybe this is a bit confusing for users when they read this.

That is the only user we have, and this user has been in the forum for years now ... why start a thread as a newbie that makes things more suspicious? If the username could be changed that would have been the best but it's probably a complex procedure?

I checked the site, It is a good alternative to start a site, but I can speak from experience when I say that nothing in the gambling world is free.

Some sites give away money for free, no strings attached, you can grab it and take it, there are no strings attached ... as much as it sounds unlikely that is exactly the goal of this website - to bring you to these places where you do get money for free. 100% free with no strings attached.

Just a couple of days ago I place a bet which cost me a bit more than a dollar, won 7x out of it plus a free bet! I then had to wager the free bet just once on 1.5+ odds, which I did, and now I have 1.3 mbtc of totally free money in my account. I think such opportunities are also interesting and so such websites should be listed.

Do you constantly get bonuses from SportsBet.io?
We do suggest users to use some sites where we post a pick, and we back it with some credible reasoning.
537  Economy / Gambling / Re: 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 17, 2020, 01:49:28 PM
I think it's much better to add more gambling sites on your website since I've only seen 4, do you mind if I ask what's the criteria on choosing those gambling platforms?

Sure,
The criteria is having the listed site paying out free money such as free Satoshi every 20 minutes or every hour - or like BC who provides a free lucky spin every day.

If a website provides only a 100% deposit bonus or free 30 spins - then for now we won't add it because we are looking for websites that give the users a substantial bonus, something with high intrinsic value - and not just a one off bonus that expires once you use it.


Get-Paid.com
Where did I see that name before?
Are you here to promote Get-Paid.com or to promote GamblingFreebies.com ?

Ugh, that is the username here. I wish I could change it but it seems like Bitcointalk doesn't let you change your username any longer, correct?
538  Economy / Gambling / 💰 GamblingFreebies.com - How to Get Free $$$ + Strategies + Picks 💰 on: November 17, 2020, 01:06:26 PM
We are delighted to present GamblingFreebies.com

What the site is about:

  • Learn how to get FREE MONEY from Gambling Websites - Only websites that provide free money or exciting incentives are listed!
  • Learn the Best Strategies how to maximize your revenues in gambling websites
  • In addition - there is a PICKS section - get FREE PICKS with the finest sports selections

We tried to keep the site as interesting and as simple as possible, without shoving too many links that make it uncomfortable for the reader to follow up with.
We placed an emphasis on helping the reader understand and learn how to maximize and make profits from gambling websites.
Even those who don't want to make a deposit can benefit from the site!

The site is brand new, so we would appreciate any feedback you have for improvement.  Grin

Visit GamblingFreebies.com
539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: lets imagine world without fiat currency on: November 07, 2020, 06:45:32 PM
Fiat currencies will always exist as long as there are governments.

And in another words they would continue to exist no matter what, even in the history of our world there were currencies in use.
540  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin is doing Pump & Dump before the US Election results are finalized on: November 06, 2020, 06:26:44 AM
There is no reasonable explanation as to why Bitcoin is flying high to $15,600 without referring to the US Elections.

Once Biden will be declared a winner via winning PA or GA or NV and AZ - this would change everything.

Probably Saturday, November 7 - is the day to sell your BTC.

If you hold BTC - best if you convert it to Tether (USDT) now and HODL coz BTC is going to dive so deep into the $9k territory once the US Election results are clear.
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