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2301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 13, 2019, 07:17:09 AM
So for few bucks you earn from your signature campaign, you are ready to personally attack members to defend your campaign so would you ready to even take the blame if they turn out to be criminals?

Personal attacks ? Where ?

The whole thinking of dirty and clean coins simply does not work. There are no 'coins'. That's the point.

And i would defend any reputable business which is being attacked by people who don't know the technical details of bitcoin and therefore making wrong accusations.



Your website (as you now talk like you own it) is involved in a criminal activity so don't defend it blindly. What I do is none of your concern as I don't support criminals nor will go to the extent you went. You want to launder money, you do it but when you get caught, you can't blame the Government because you want to PROTECT YOUR PRIVACY.

No, i do not own that business.

So, in your eyes.. everyone who cares about his privacy is a criminal ? That's some weird logic.



I thought you were a decent member to talk to but sorry to say you can't even talk properly.

I am able to argue properly.
All i see in this section of the forum is some heavy misunderstanding on how bitcoin works. And this leads to wrong conclusions.
Whether it is how BTC technically works or how everyone caring about his privacy is a criminal. That's just plain stupid.



Earlier it was said here that there are some efforts to increase the anonimity of Bitcoin. But I'm not sure it's possible.
At the begininig we had bigger anonimity and that didn't last. With high pressure for regulation I don't think that turning back at the starting point is actually possible. And wouldn't be very good for reputation of Bitcoin either.

That's definitely possible.
Bitcoin never had any anonymity. Bitcoin was (and is) pseudonymous.

But with future improvements, BTC can definitely be a more private coin. I am not talking about full anonymity, but about enough anonymity to not get spied on by your neighbor or the store next block.



Silly argument, most money even in fiat is not physical and there can be dirty money that has never left anything but a representation in accounts, this is not something new to the crypto world and not something we should think will require its own unique answer, this has already happened.

My point is still valid.
It is simply not possible to distinguish between clean and dirty 'coins' (coins do not exist in BTC) after mixing.

Instead of simply stating 'silly argument', what about explaining how you would distinguish between them in the example i gave earlier ?
2302  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: BC Vault hardware wallet - is this a reasonable answer to a question? on: August 12, 2019, 01:39:28 PM
It's worth pointing out that Trezor is vulnerable to seed extraction which is dangerous if one doesn't use a long passphrase.

One of those "only in the movies" attack.

I wouldn't regard THIS as a 'only in the movie' attack.


The recent extraction of sensitive information via sidechannel attack on the power consumption on the screen seems like a very improbable ('move'-) attack.
But stealing a hardware wallet and simply extracting the seed with a tool isn't too 'movie-like'.

When in possession of the tool, that's even more easy to accomplish than a 5$ wrench attack. All you need is physical access to the hardware wallet.
2303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 12, 2019, 01:31:39 PM
Those who are overly cautious need to have the crypto they spend for goods and services in a coin like monero then and just keep their investments in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not a privacy based coin and trying to force it relies upon a lot of trust which goes against the system.

Not necessarily. There are proposals to increase the anonymity of bitcoin.

While coinjoin is fine, there are better solutions available, such as payjoin.



If you follow where the outputs are being spent, and if the hackers aren't smart enough about how they sell or spend the bitcoins, or if too many of Chipmixers' users spend the mixed coins through services with KYC (or by buying physical products or services in their name), then eventually it might be possible to state with increasing likelihood which outputs are clean and which have a higher probability of being dirty.

Not really.

By combining 2 'dirty' and 'clean' outputs, creating 4 new outputs, it is not possible to call any one of them 'clean' or 'dirty' anymore.
The whole concept of 'dirty' coins simply does not work. Coins do not exist. Only UTXO do. And UTXOs are being 'destroyed' in each transaction.
2304  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: BC Vault hardware wallet - is this a reasonable answer to a question? on: August 12, 2019, 11:34:51 AM
I think the key thing for me was the anonymity/privacy of non-deterministic wallets.

You don't gain any advantage in anonymity/privacy when using non-deterministic wallets compared to deterministic ones.



My understanding of the other typical wallets is that they're deterministic meaning that it is possible to relate the wallets held on the physical hardware back to one another somehow.

You'd either need the device itself or the master public key to do that.
If you never enter your xpub into a software or post it online, the only way would be to have access to the device.

And if you have access to the device, it doesn't matter whether it is a deterministic or non-deterministic wallet. All private keys stored can be linked to one identity.



The other thing I liked was that you can have multiple accounts (vaults?)

That should be possible with all hardware wallets (thanks to bip32 / bip44).



I think of the other two viable (large companies, well known) options to my knowledge, are Ledger and Trezor, I think the option I'll likely opt for is Trezor, I get a warmer feeling from its open source nature than I do from Ledger.

While trezor definitely is a good choice, i'd personally prefer a ledger device. Ledger's software is open-source.
The only part which is not open source is the firmware of the secure element due to NDA's.
2305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 12, 2019, 11:14:51 AM
Good - I wish u good luck.

Original BitCoin was designed to work with ANY counterparty - and sorry - does include banks

It is called Bitcoin, not BitCoin.

And it works with any counterparty. Feel free to let a 3rd party control your coins - and therefore your money.
But this definitely won't be the future for the majority, and there is zero sense in that.

Counterparty - by the way - implies that you can transact with anyone, which is always the case. Even without giving full control away.
Letting someone else manage your funds, does not fall under 'work with any counterparty'.


Why would i need luck ?
I am using BTC as it is supposed to be. You'd be the one who needs luck if you are going to let a 3rd party control your funds. You are giving away all the benefits bitcoin offers.



If this laundering of money is proved, then like bestmixer now chipmixer will be seized to shut down.

I heavily doubt that.

The operator behind Bestmixer obviously didn't know how to run such a business.
The people behind ChipMixer are way more competent than those of any other mixer around (past and present).



It was this year when I learnt about mixers and felt they operate with a license but the main purpose of using these mixers i just to launder money else why would anyone use them and how can they be called legal?

Maybe because there are people around who care about their privacy ?

I mean.. sure.. there a lot of people like you who give their whole privacy away just for a few bucks (e.g. KYC for shitty tokens worth nothing).
Or by browsing with tracking cookies, or by installing the amazon browser plugin basically giving away your privacy for 10$.

Not everyone is like that.
2306  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 12, 2019, 09:44:28 AM
i don't get one important thing about this whole article. how do they even figure out that the transactions belong to ChipMixer mixing services? it is not like they brand their transactions with their name! they can very well belong to any other exchange services out there.
they never explain this important part.

That's actually not that hard.
ChipMixer splits those coins into chips having fixed sizes.

You can determine whether they went to ChipMixer by looking at the outputs created. If you see X BTC being split into 0.1, 0.2, 0.4, etc.. UTXO's you can be pretty sure that they sent their coins to ChipMixer.

However, whether the coins were sent to a mixing service is not a privacy implication at all.
It would be problematic if you could trace which coins were sent back in exchange. But fortunately that's not the case with ChipMixer.
2307  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 12, 2019, 09:40:52 AM
Sorry - talk with ur (potential) bank or finance Institute that should hanlde ur coins in any future

 Huh
I won't let anyone handle / control my coins. Ever.

If you believe that banks are going to control and manage your BTC in the future, you didn't understand the philosophy of bitcoin yet.
Be your own bank implies to not let a bank manage your coins.


Bitcoin is a mean of payment, and not a speculative object. While quite a lot people see it as such, the utility behind it is what will change the world we live in.
Decoupling from banks does not work if you let them manage your coins.



Physical cash is different. 

I think there are quite some things regarding the technical aspects of bitcoin you don't understand.

My argument is valid.

2308  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 12, 2019, 09:26:27 AM
Give me some realistic calc for how much % u ll end up holding tainted coins after the  mix pls - I'd never ever put clean coins to risk !

That's not how bitcoin works.
There are no 'clean' and 'dirty' coins.

There can be UTXO with an illegal source, but after the next transaction they are not traceable anymore.


Image, you have 1 'dirty' bitcoin (input A) and 1 'clean' bitcoin (input B).
Now you create a transaction consuming both inputs and creating 4 outputs (0.5 BTC each; output W, X, Y, Z).

Which 2 outputs are 'clean' and which are 'dirty' ?
That question can not be answered.

Same applies to cash:
1 'dirty' 10$ bill and 1 'clean' 10$ bill. Now you exchange them to 4 5$ bills. You can't say which of them are 'clean' and which are 'dirty'.
2309  Economy / Reputation / Re: Possiblity of hacked account now requesting to sell account. on: August 12, 2019, 09:03:08 AM
How could I? I have already lost access to the account, which means that I won't be able to do that anymore.


You don't need access to your account to sign a message using an addresses which has been used by this account earlier.



I don't also think that I can provide the requirement you are talking about (signed address or whatsoever) because I already forgot the wallet that I used during my campaign (I change wallet from time to time for security reason).

What kind of 'security measurement' is this ?
This is the worst thing you could possibly do.

There is not a single reason to delete private keys - at all.

Without a signed message, you unfortunately can't get your account back and no one can verify that you really are the original owner of this account. You could just be anyone claiming it.
2310  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Where is exe in Electrum Windows Installer package on: August 12, 2019, 08:28:45 AM
I have seen vulnerability in paper wallets

For example ?

The only thing i can imagine is a vulnerability in the software creating those paper wallets.
But a paper wallet itself can not be vulnerable because it is no electronic interface. How can it be vulnerable to anything other than loss or theft (which applies to everything; hard drive, hardware wallet, etc..) ?

Wrong usage can lead to loss of funds. But then not paper wallets are to blame, but the person using them.
2311  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [WARNING] RAT(Remote Access Trojan) - The New Malware! on: August 12, 2019, 07:37:11 AM
The important factor that should be noted here is RAT will be a threat to Bitcointalk forum also. It scans for few websites in the browser history where "bitcointalk.org" is one among them.
In the crypto category, it scans "coindesk.com", "coinbase.com", "binance.com" etc.

Actually, if it is a RAT, you are in trouble anyway.

A RAT (Remote Administration Tool) gives the attacker full access (under installed permissions) to your system.
It doesn't really matter what it is searching for upon infection.

An attacker can always simply download additional payload onto your system to do additional stuff (e.g. looking for wallet files, passwords, mnemonic codes in text files, etc..).


The point is.. if you are infected with a RAT-like kind of malware, your system is owned by the attacker. And he can do whatever he wishes.

So, any RAT is extremely dangerous. The one you mentioned would not be different at all.
2312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Checking Address Balance with Bitcoin Core on: August 12, 2019, 07:20:50 AM
From a privacy standpoint, is that the best thing to do? If it were my business I'd keep my cold storage out of the public eye and perhaps only reveal it to authorities for taxation requirements.

The xpub would be stored on the web server handling the payment requests.
It wouldn't be publicly available to customer / visitors of the site.

You'd be generating a new receiving address for each customer using this xpub. While the private keys are in cold storage.

This does not have any implications on the privacy compared to receiving coins to a hot wallet and afterwards sending it to the cold storage.


Or what exactly was your concern ? Maybe i misunderstood it ?



Otherwise, there can be phishing attempts on the admin email with the cold storage address included in an official-looking email. People have fallen victim to much simpler fraud attempts than this.

The xpub is not an address, but is used to derive public keys (and therefore addresses).
However, i doubt the admint of a shop which accepts crypto could even fall for such a phishing attempt. I mean.. who would be the sender ?
There is no 'official authority' who could request anything. If you are the admin, you are the admin. No one else should ask you for anything.
2313  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger Live Problem on Windows on: August 12, 2019, 07:16:30 AM
Electrum is open-source and a free wallet which is why it can be manipulated more easily than Ledger that's hardware.

Open source does not mean that anyone can change the code. It means everyone can view the code.

Anyone can make requests to change the code, but it will still be audited by multiple people managing the repository.
And only if it passes the code audits, it will be merged into the repository.



Even the best of people can be fooled if they follow the pop-ups in the wallet and even Ledger has the same option of updating the version.

It has been mentioned numerous times here around this forum that one should only download electrum from the official website.
And verifying the signature is mandatory.

Just because most people don't follow those pretty simple tips to stay safe, it by far doesn't mean that everyone would get fooled by such a cheap phishing attempt.
2314  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: how to confirm bitcoin tx with my antminers s9 on: August 11, 2019, 04:34:28 PM
This only works if you are solo-mining.
If you are mining in a pool, the pool-operator is constructing the block.

However, if you are solo-mining simply include the transaction into your block when calculating it.
2315  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Honeybeeapp - ponzi scam and fake credential on: August 11, 2019, 03:59:21 PM

This link is not working for me.

Archived it here: https://archive.fo/ywFnx
2316  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Wie Bekomme ich Armory Online (Bitcoin Core u. Blockchain auf Externer platte) on: August 11, 2019, 03:47:21 PM
Also du hast zwei möglichkeiten:

1)
Um einfach nur schnell an deine Coins zu kommen: Private keys exportieren und in ein anderes Wallet importieren (z.B. electrum).
Der root-key funktioniert nur in armory, aber die private keys können in jedes Wallet importiert werden.

Dazu einfach den zitierten Schritten von Lakai01 folgen


2)
Du fixt die armory settings.
Dazu müsstest du uns die Logs hochladen, damit wir sehen wie wo was nicht passt.

Aber generell, musst du einfach das "satoshi-dir" korrekt einstellen. Das kannst du in der Datei armoryqt.conf machen.
Dazu einfach folgendes eintragen:
Code:
satoshi-datadir="C:\Pfad\zur\Blockchain\blocks"


Wenn du armory zum laufen kriegen möchtest, wäre das einfachste wenn du uns deine Logs posten könntest.
Die kannst du am einfachsten exportieren, wenn du auf "File" -> "Export Log File" klickst, dann einfach auf https://pastebin.com/ oder ähnlichem hosten und hier den Link posten.
2317  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: When will they fix Ledger Nano S firmware? on: August 11, 2019, 03:36:11 PM
You can't do it with just Ledger Live and you need the device too.

Same applies to when you want to send coins.
If you don't want to send / access your coins, you don't need to install a different application.

When you want to send coins uninstalling and installing a different application literally takes less than 30 seconds.



I have installed BTC and ETH apps via Ledger Live and it was not so easy as it was the first time and checking the computer and the device was a pain but now I am used to it.

It really isn't hard at all.

Open ledger live -> ledger manager -> Click on 'install' -> accept it on the nano -> Done.



Also, while doing it I got logged out due to inactivity from Ledger Live and then again entering the PIN, password etc.... It also took a long time to sync for the first time and I got errors while doing it which I had to fix (updating the old firmware 3 hours and 30 minutes for adding bitcoin wallet).

Well, you should keep your firmware updated all the time. That is not related to uninstalling/installing apps at all.

And you don't get logged out after a minute of inactivity.



As I did not uninstall any apps/update any apps, I have no clue but it's certainly not so easy as installing apps on my mobile and laptop.

No, it is way easier.
3 Clicks and 30 seconds.

I really don't see any issue at all.
2318  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ⚠️ How Scammer tried to Hack my Bitcointalk and how to Protect yourself?⚠️ on: August 11, 2019, 03:30:28 PM
For instance, some versions of wallets like Electrum had vulnerabilities.

Just like any other wallet.

Each wallet had vulnerabilities in the past. There is not a single one which didn't.
And some do even still have vulnerabilities which will never be fixed (e.g. jaxx).



Also, don't click on any links you receive via pm or email unless you really know the sender.

Even if you know the sender you shouldn't click on links without verifying it.
If the original sender is compromised, malware could send emails to all contacts. While you'd believe the sender is a well known friend, in reality it is just some attacker who compromised the system of your friend.

Do not trust, verify.
2319  Economy / Reputation / Re: This game-protect fuck is the best annoying character on: August 11, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
One does not have to use a service to know it is scam.

You can continue to claim that everyone here is braindead and mentally ill.
But if i were you, i'd reconsider this statement. Everyone is mentally ill and you are the only one who is legit and trustworthy here?  Roll Eyes Are you sure?  Wink

It has been proven that you are a scammer, and still you are denying that like a little child who doesn't want to admit he ate the lollipop.

Anyone who is not schizophrenic will realize that those 50 trustworthy people here on the forum are right and that you are the scammer here.
Not you are the only one right here, while the whole world is wrong. Not the whole forum is the problem. You are the problem.
2320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Messy Private Keys Dump on: August 11, 2019, 11:55:57 AM
I get that it wouldn't include the imported keys, but if the software can't figure out those other details from the xpriv then how can it be used to. migrate to another wallet today? Is it because the new wallet makes some educated guesses that are probably correct, but might not be, but you still have the old wallet software in that edge case?

It is because there are standards on how to derive private keys (i.e. which derivation path to use for which address type).
This data is stored in wallet files. The xpriv itself is only used to derive the private keys.

BIP32 and BIP44 define the standard to derive private keys for different 'accounts' or coins. Following the standardization you will be able to derive your needed keys using your xpriv.
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