Starting in the next few days, I will write an automation script to collect your posts and post them in a thread called:
"Inabas/BFL_Josh Words of the Day".
Every 24 hours your publicly released posts will show up in sequential order for everyone to read. Any Vitrol you wish to commit will be collected there indiscriminately.
People will have a fine opportunity to skim your fine posts of the day in one place. What I hope to achieve is a fact of behavior trending. If the majority of your posts are kind and amiable with your prospective users, customers, and people in general....people will see that. If they are unkind and extremely unproductive (and even financially destructive to your company) they will see that as well.
I hope you do this as I'm pretty sure he edited a post earlier in this thread, although I have no proof. Apparently he has issues with this in the past... |
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They don't even know when they will ship. Their own website says 3 different things depending on what page your reading. http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/Performance: 4.5, 60 & 1,500 GH/s The BitForce SC chip is now in final stage development. Initial product delivery is scheduled for November.
See the SC FAQ and release Notes for policy information. Read the Press Release. http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/So will the BitForce SC product line REALLY come out in October? This is a fair question. Let's review our track record. If you're not aware, our initial product, the BitForce Single had a slow delivery cycle. This was initially due to a last minute design change before initial product release. When we did release it, we weren't quite prepared for the explosive success we had. After several rounds of scaling, single delivery is in sufficient volume to catch up quickly. The Mini Rig product release has followed it's development and release timeline pretty well. Initial deliveries aren't far from estimates and the speed of production is on pace to ensure most customers will get their Mini Rigs ahead of schedule. The SC product line has been under development for quite some time and is not the result of an expedited development process. Although there are always issues during development, our team is highly experienced in exactly this field and we're currently ahead of our original timeline. Honest Abe, we're scheduling shipments for October of 2012. http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/We plan on shipping the ASIC versions of our products by the end of October or early November, depending on quantity of units available. Please see the FAQ with regards to 1/3 shipping plan.
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With the T-shirt idea, make it say "Back in my day, a block was 50BTC!"
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Absolutely.. Running a lease on hashpower is still a risk. I ran a short one a few days ago and solved a longish block for the pool while it ran, but I had not completed a shift with that power yet so ended up not earning anything on that block. After that we had a rather unlucky streak, so my investment in the lease was pretty much a total loss.
Ive tried a few small leases so far (never had a GPUMax account) and dont understand how anyone can come out ahead. I understand its a type of gamble but I dont understand the idea I guess. |
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I did not decline the bet. We'll see if Tom has enough confidence in his hardware to make the bet. My guess is he'll chicken out and take the excuse of "You won't stay out of my thread" to back out of the bet. But maybe he'll surprise me. You are wrong! The bet was not about bASIC power requirement, ONLY about BFL's claim. Don't mix things... I agree. Take the damn bet for 1000BTC about whether BFL can deliver their claimed efficiency. If you're so confident, then it should be easy money for you! However, you're antagonizing him with all this nit-picking of dictionary terminology, which is just going to screw you (by not getting the 1000BTC bet). He's calling you out on your claims. Take the bet, and prove him wrong. Then, if you want to nitpick about his terms and "competitiveness", make a separate bet in another thread. ^This. So much this. Tom doesn't want to provide a specific power figure on the possibility that it'll be wrong. Surely after claiming that the FPGA single would draw 20W, BFL understands that simulation figures have a habit of getting revised one way or another? We know the thing can be powered by Molex, so surely that gives you some idea. Besides, you're really going to turn down what should be an easy twelve grand because Tom won't pull some wattage numbers out of thin air? I'm not asking him to give wattage numbers or a power estimate, I am asking him to define competitive. What the hell, are you completely incapable of reading? Again, here's the bet I'm willing to make: 1. BFL products will ship with a power usage at 1.1w per GH or less. 2. Tom defines "competitive." 3. Tom does not require that I stay out of his thread as a condition of the bet. That's it. Tom has already declined because he knows if he defines competitive one of two things happen:
A) People realize his definition of "competitive" and their definition are grossly different.
B) He has to admit that his power usage is not going to be competitive.
That's really the only reason he is declining the bet at this point, because it forces him into a position of admitting something he doesn't want to admit yet, because his precious pre-orders will dry up like a bone in a desert. Just incase you are incapable of reading here is the bet Tom is willing to make... 1) When BFL's line of ASIC's hit the wild they must not consume more than 1.1 watt of electricity per 1Gh/s of Bitcoin mining speed, and according to everything you are telling us 1.1 watts per 1Gh/s is the most electricity they will use.
2) You will no longer post in my thread, if you post in my thread again you automatically lose the bet.
Its simple, 2 things... but you cant handle it. Every word you type here does two things. It shows how much of a douche you really are and puts another strike against BFL. I never spole a bad word about them and I was not around for the issues in the past but after the way you act around here I will never buy from them! You may remember this quote... BFL is the clear technical leader in the FPGA and upcoming ASIC mining space. As a direct result, the company has grown very quickly over the past year. Unfortunately, its customer service, which was initially very good, did not scale fast enough, which caused customer relations and transparency to suffer. BFL is eager to improve and one of my top responsibilities in this new position is to focus on that specific issue. I am, have always been and will always be committed to good customer service and transparency when it comes to bitcoin in general and the daily operations of related activities. This is where I will be focusing much of my initial attention, specifically to take the pressure off of everyone involved so that they can focus on the other important factors, such as getting the hardware delivered on time! Might I just say you are one hell of an employee! I hope you get a raise for all you have done, infact is it possible for your boss to see this thread? has he/she been watching? |
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It still gets hot... Think of it like a deep fryer, the heat you put in the oil doesn't magically vanish, you need to cool the oil. It may not be true with a low power computer but with a mining rig, cooling the oil would be needed.
Also consider that because of the oil everything in it will heat up to whatever temp it is at. Even things that are normally cool, like USB controllers, capacitors, etc which could cause problems if heated up too high.
There was a guy who did this however, I think it was in the "pics of your mining rigs" thread.
That's why you cool the oil, there are many different ways you can do it, and off the top of my head.. Hook a heatsink to frigerator coils. Hook a heatsink that's buried into the ground. Hook a heatsink thats connected to a pool. Where I live, you dig 2 feet down and you're at water. A free source of heat dispersion. You did not mention that in your first post, it looks like you assume the heat just goes away. A big heat sink would work well but wouldn't it just be easier, cleaner and probably cheaper to water cool the GPUs? |
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It still gets hot... Think of it like a deep fryer, the heat you put in the oil doesn't magically vanish, you need to cool the oil. It may not be true with a low power computer but with a mining rig, cooling the oil would be needed.
Also consider that because of the oil everything in it will heat up to whatever temp it is at. Even things that are normally cool, like USB controllers, capacitors, etc which could cause problems if heated up too high.
There was a guy who did this however, I think it was in the "pics of your mining rigs" thread.
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Uhmm, what's up with shift #9888:
No. Completed Duration Pool Ghps Difficulty Your score Total score Your proofs Total proofs
9888 2012-10-17 06:36 12h 00m 1,534.524 3,072,321 0.00469612 5.03679107 14,394 15,441,821
There was a problem with shift updates last night. A rather large shift is now making its way down the list. All work is registered and will be paid when we find blocks. This will have the effect that the N in PPLNS is much higher until this huge shift is out of the last 10 list. So if you have work in this shift it will take longer than usual before it is fully paid.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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It's a leased run from Hashpower.com I sure wish I had 300GH in my own hardware.. but alas, only 4.5GH of that is actually my own gear I did the same thing the other day but no one noticed. It was nice to see my name at the top of the list for once (or even on the top 50 for once lol) Ive only got 4Gh/s on my own  |
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I consider myself a small-time miner, 4GH/s in total. Ive got my miners setup with 2 backup pools...
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There will still be a need for miners to verify transactions. You will still be able to send/receive coins even if there are no more to be mined.
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2 MMQ's running BFGMiner 2.8.1 on Windows 7.  |
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I had problems with my rpi and 1 ModMiner Quad. it would mine for a few hours then just stop... On the other hand I didnt play with it very long to find a solution or even what the problem was. Could have been the way I set it up... Need to dig it back out and try again.
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The heat question has been asked in several ways, but as of yet, there is no answer even on their own forum. Do you have a specific link to the answer I might have missed? Or when they might ship. Their own website says 3 different things depending on what page your looking at. |
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I noticed it was down this morning as well.
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What did you have hooked up to USB? Fpgas?
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Third times a charm... I'm in
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Took 12 or more hours (I stopped watching it after 12 hrs) on a 50mb Internet connection a few weeks ago. I can just imagine what it will be like in a year or two...
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Jesus... I don't have many people ignored on this forum, but subSTRATA immediately made the list. Perma-mute this guy.
I second that! Goodbye! |
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Thinking of trying this, does anyone have a WeExchange invite they can PM me?
Sent a PM with invite Thank ya!  |
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