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5201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do I hedge my bets? For example inside. on: February 04, 2017, 10:55:48 PM
But I do not understand these statistics you have mentioned.  Undecided
I usually bet on a final out come and the odds are for example: 1.7 or 1.35 when i place a bet (these are american odds). I do not know about what these units are all about.
But I noticed that I placed a bet on a team that I think will not win now so I want to bet on the other team if they do manage to win but by 2 or more goals. So what i am saying is that I do not want to lose on both tickets.
This is the reason why I am wanting to place this second bet but to cover both outcomes.
-2.5 is what is offered on the other team but i do not think the winning team is powerful enough to win by more than 2 goals.
So this is not hedging your bets so to cover your own bets from losing on either of them?

Hedging needs better than -100(2.00) odds to cover.

1.7 or 1.35 are decimal odds.
+358, -158 format are moneyline.

Moneyline works on the basis of 100. A + is the amount you will receive if you bet 100 and win. +358 means if you bet 100, you will win 358.

A - is the amount you must bet to win 100. -158 means you must bet 158 to win 100.

The idea with hedging is to have better than 2.00 decimal odds on both outcomes so that if you bet $1 on both, you will still win.

There are different ways to approach this, prop betting, parlays, etc.

Alexa Grasso via KO/TKO (+360)
Felice Herrig via Submission (+925)

+360 means $100 bet will win $360.
+925 means $100 bet will win $925.

A person could bet $100 on both outcomes and their winnings would be greater than their losses.

Of course this doesn't cover other outcomes like a draw, or wins or losses by decision.

That's a drawback with hedging. It offers less coverage for greater risk.
5202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do I hedge my bets? For example inside. on: February 04, 2017, 08:18:45 PM
Most use prop bets or odds over -100 to hedge.

Example from tonight's UFC card.

Alexa Grasso via KO/TKO (+360)
Felice Herrig via Submission (+925)

If those were the two most likely outcomes 1 unit on each play could hedge for either athlete winning.

Hedging with odds lower than -100 doesn't work afaik.
5203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: February 04, 2017, 08:08:42 PM
If Trump succeeds in his plan to reduce taxation on the poor to middle class, while shifting the tax burden onto the wealthy, the value of fiat will probably increase on top of the economic and job market booms Trump's economic policies would create.

That could limit bitcoin interest & growth in the united states.

But in EU countries where banks are seeking to outlaw paper currency to give themselves a bigger monopoly over currency exchange, bitcoin could grow significantly as people seek ways to get out from under the banker monopoly.
5204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Frustrates You Most When Using Bitcoin? on: February 04, 2017, 08:03:56 PM
Traders who want to devalue the worth of bitcoin thinking if the price declines, it'll immediately shoot back up again despite the loss of confidence in bitcoin's stability that comes with devaluation.

They make it hard to hold btc over the long term.
5205  Economy / Services / Re: ★★★ [12 SPOTS AVAILABLE] NITROGENSPORTS.EU Signature Campaign ★★★ on: February 04, 2017, 01:40:58 AM
Hi. I would like to sign up for this.  Smiley

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5206  Other / Off-topic / Re: [2017-01-31] The other ban that was quietly announced last week on: February 02, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
i reported your topic so it would get moved.. for your benefit.

What does this mean?

 Huh
5207  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Amish are taking over Bitcoin! on: February 02, 2017, 08:06:28 PM
In a few years, the amish will look like this.

5208  Other / Off-topic / Re: [2017-01-31] The other ban that was quietly announced last week on: February 02, 2017, 01:47:10 AM
If cash is eliminated, banks have a monopoly over currency exchange.

It has nothing to do with security, terrorism, convenience or any of those marketing ploys.

Its about control.

Also

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HSBC Bank Helped Terrorists, Iran, Mexican Drug Cartels Launder Money, Senate Report Says

A Senate report released ahead of the embargo time revealed that HSBC’s lax anti-money laundering policies allowed Mexican drug money, Iranian terrorist money, and even suspicious Russian money to enter the U.S. and gain access to U.S. dollar liquidity over the last couple of years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/07/16/hsbc-helped-terrorists-iran-mexican-drug-cartels-launder-money-senate-report-says/
5209  Economy / Services / Re: Let's Think About the Future | Signature Campaign | (All Ranks Welcome) on: January 31, 2017, 01:03:40 AM
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5210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Marketing company leaks thousands of credit card numbers on: January 30, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
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More than 400,000 phone call recordings that include names, addresses, phone numbers and credit card information have been leaked online by Florida marketing company VICI Marketing following suspected security blunders.

The 28GB database was publicly-accessible and included recordings of inbound and outbound phone calls.

While most of the audio appears to be linked clearly to VICI Marketing, some do not mention the company's name in the recordings.

Researchers at Cologne-based MacKeeper found and reported the breach, then lambasted the Florida firm for the gaffe.

"There is enough information in each call to provide cyber criminals with all they need to steal the credit card information or commit a wide range of crimes," researchers says in a disclosure post.

"There is no suspected wrongdoing at this time other than leaking as many as 17,649 audio recordings with credit card numbers and private customer files."

More than 17,000 of the calls contained financial information.

The database was secured on Thursday but it is not known how long the data has been exposed.


MacKeeper notes some of the recordings do not warn customers that the calls are being recorded or stored, which could be a breach of law should the calls have involved people based in 11 US states where laws mandate consent before recordings can be captured.

The security flub follows a 2008 ruling against the company after it was discovered it had used stolen customer data. The company was found to have failed to validate the provenance of its data sources.

MacKeeper too has had security failings. In December 2015 it exposed a database of 13 million users including their names, email addresses, and weakly-protected passwords.

The software has long-since been regarded an unnecessary irritant for its deliberately confusing pop-up advertising. ®

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/30/firm_that_leaked_13m_records_laughs_at_firm_that_leaked_400k_records/

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Some ask what advantages bitcoin and crypto have over credit cards, paypal & traditional payment services.

Here's one example.

As far as I know, this would never happen with bitcoin.
5211  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think of Comunism? on: January 30, 2017, 05:42:35 AM
Communism is a sinister form of control and slavery.

Lenin/Stalin, Mao Zedong and Fidel Castro were all funded by international bankers to overthrow the established regimes in russia, china and cuba.

Communism is advertised as being a "revolution by the people" but in reality the only reason it exists is because globalist bankers back it with large sums of money.

South korea and north korea used to be the same country.

South korea has modern conveniences and a decently high standard of living under capitalism.

North korean's do not have electricity or a modern standard of living due to the oppression and regressiveness of communism/socialism.

The divide between north korea and south korea is possibly the best illustration of how capitalism is superior to socialism/communism.

In the final analysis, communism is a form of slavery instituted by elitist bankers to control entire countries, stagnate innovation/progress and maintain extreme low levels of status quo.

Fat cat, wealthy, elites at the top of the food chain fear hungry talent climbing the ladder and dethroning them. Someone starting a business in their garage and becoming the next google or apple is what bankers fear.

Under capitalism anyone can start a business and become the next apple or google if they work hard enough. This is the reason for bankers supporting communism/socialism and critizing capitalism as under those systems people lack the freedom to start a business.

Communism/socialism are regressive systems that cripple individual innovation and progress.

Both communism and socialism are designed to keep the poor--poor and the rich--rich.

The only reason people support socialism/communism is because bankers also throw money and influence behind schools misleading young people in order to indoctrinate them into having pro socialist/pro communist worldviews.

If it wasn't for bankers supporting communism with their big money, it wouldn't exist and no one would support it.
5212  Other / Off-topic / Re: Metalic hydrogen on: January 30, 2017, 01:46:51 AM
Quantum Computers are already up and working so next gen is already here but obviously not available to us more human folk

For it to be true quantum would mean the CPU doesn't run on binary 0 or 1 states.

True quantum behavior would be where a CPU has a single bit which can represent a wide array of values.

I think what people are calling "quantum computers" are normal CPU's emulating quantum bits.
5213  Other / Off-topic / Re: Medical first,children had cancer cured with genetically engineered T-cells from on: January 30, 2017, 01:40:17 AM
That is cool.

I wonder why this method of treating cancer with viruses, currently in trials with good success, doesn't receive more exposure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-z22u2003k

 Huh
5214  Other / Off-topic / Re: TOR update promises better anonymity on: January 30, 2017, 01:23:55 AM
Is the update more secure?

I know awhile ago the FBI were seeking interviews with TOR developers.

Perhaps to persuade them to built backdoors into TOR for the FBI to use.

The same way the FBI pressured apple to decrypt iphones in investigations.

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Developer of anonymous Tor software dodges FBI, leaves US

In its mission to hunt criminals, the FBI has been keen to hack Tor, the Internet browser that hides your true location.
The FBI's attempts to break into Tor are starting to manifest in strange ways.


FBI agents are currently trying to subpoena one of Tor's core software developers to testify in a criminal hacking investigation, CNNMoney has learned.
But the developer, who goes by the name Isis Agora Lovecruft, fears that federal agents will coerce her to undermine the Tor system -- and expose Tor users around the world to potential spying.

That's why, when FBI agents approached her and her family over Thanksgiving break last year, she immediately packed her suitcase and left the United States for Germany.
"I was worried they'd ask me to do something that hurts innocent people -- and prevent me from telling people it's happening," she said in an exclusive interview with CNNMoney.

The FBI declined to comment on the matter, citing a policy to neither confirm nor deny the existence of ongoing investigations.
However, according to an FBI agent familiar with the case, FBI agents in Atlanta and Los Angeles are seeking Lovecruft's help to investigate a hacking case in which she, in their eyes, is "connected."

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which advocates for Internet freedom, has now taken up her cause.
"Her primary goal is to make sure she can come back to the United States when she wants to do that," said Nate Cardozo, a senior staff attorney at EFF. "And to have threats of subpoenas explained or go away."

"Please call me"

It started when FBI Special Agent Mark W. Burnett stopped by Lovecruft's parents' home in Los Angeles while the family was on vacation in Hawaii. He left his card, on which he wrote, "Please call me."

Her mother immediately called Ben Rosenfeld, an attorney in San Francisco who specializes in technology and surveillance law.
On Dec. 2, he called Agent Burnett and presented himself as Lovecruft's lawyer. Lovecruft told CNNMoney she had been willing to meet the FBI with her attorney present. But Rosenfeld was told by agents that they would circumvent him and approach Lovecruft directly. At the time, the FBI wouldn't say why it sought her.
There were clues, though.

In late 2015, it was becoming apparent that the FBI was aggressively trying to pierce Tor's veil of anonymity.
Tor hides someone's physical location by bouncing computer signals throughout its worldwide network. And while it's run by a U.S. government-backed nonprofit to protect free speech, Tor is also a preferred tool for hackers, drug traffickers, and child pornographers.

The FBI has managed to hack Tor users in the past. To pull this off, the FBI has also compelled institutions, like Carnegie Mellon University, to pitch in.
Lovecruft, one of the few people intimately familiar with Tor's inner workings, feared she would be pressured to assist as well.

"That would undermine all the work that we do to protect human rights activists, women researching birth control... all these people need privacy. They need what Tor provides," she said. "I would not undermine that."

Lovecruft thought she'd get caught up in the FBI's perceived war on hackers. The Department of Justice has come down hard on digital dissidents like Aaron Swartz, who committed suicide when facing federal charges in 2013. Fearing a similar fight, Lovecruft refused to leave her San Francisco apartment for a week.
"There was this feeling the air had changed, and that I couldn't breathe," she said. "I'd look at my bike and think, I'm not supposed to go outside. Maybe some agents will pick me up off the street if I ride my bike. I'm just going to stay here, and not respond to anyone when they knock."

Flight to Berlin

Lovecruft had intended to move to Germany someday, but she put those plans on overdrive. She booked a flight to Berlin that weekend, including a return flight she had no intention of taking -- just to avoid raising suspicions.

On Dec. 7, without seeing family or friends, she took a taxi to San Francisco International Airport. She nervously made her way past TSA agents wearing a $1 pair of blue-green aviator sunglasses, unsure if she was breaking any laws by leaving the country.

When the plane lifted from the tarmac, Lovecruft sent a message on Twitter, letting loved ones know she slipped away.

But it's not over. In April, FBI Special Agent Kelvin Porter in Atlanta called her lawyer. This time, he wanted to know where to send a subpoena for Lovecruft to help testify in a criminal hacking case.

Cardozo at the EFF is adamant that Lovecruft hasn't violated the law by dodging the FBI. He and Lovecruft acknowledge that the FBI might have a legitimate reason to seek her help. But they just want to figure out what that is.

Lovecruft, speaking from Berlin by phone on an encrypted app, still sounds worried: "I don't know what they want. I don't know what happens to me if I go back."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
5215  Other / Off-topic / Re: WRITING MY OWN OBITUARY on: January 28, 2017, 03:55:00 AM
Because medical treatments aren't computers? That point is so obvious that only a complete moron would need it pointed out. Old treatments are still useful. I've used drugs developed in the 1840s. New treatments are less useful, as there has been less time to assess their efficacy and safety. Again, at the risk of stating the obvious, medical science progresses at a slower rate than consumer electronics.

What drug was developed in the 1840's?

Opium as a painkiller?

Opium wasn't developed, it comes from a plant that grew naturally.

At a bare minimum, it is safe to say people changing their diet, eating healthier food and having better lifestyles is a more effective cancer treatment than chemotherapy.

If you're a little more knowledgeable, you know that cannabis is proven to have anti tumor(and thus anti cancer) properties as early as the 1960's and is more effective than chemo.

Chemo is obsolete, ineffective and if you look at the statistics, is shown to kill as many people as those killed by cancer.

Why would you defend chemo and the decades of false knowledge and lies which causes some to support it?



5216  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The most interesting Bitcoin topic articles you ever had read? on: January 28, 2017, 03:13:49 AM
Ones I remember(don't have links, sorry)

#1  Cubans in the united states using bitcoin to send money to their families in cuba to avoid the high fees imposed on wire transfers.

#2  Europeans buying TV's and electronic equipment -- they thought its value would hold better than their local currency.

#3  Gold bullion bars being found with tungsten inserts to decrease their value.

#4  MtGox and how it transformed from a Magic The Gathering Online eXchange to becoming the largest bitcoin exchange.

#5  Dread Pirate Roberts (Ross Ulbricht) the original silk road head. Seems like a very interesting person.

#6  Things Bram Cohen (bittorrent creator) has said about bitcoin and crypto currencies on twitter & elsewhere is very smart.

#7  Banks attempting to patent blockchain technology.
5217  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president on: January 28, 2017, 02:57:58 AM
I think the way things are now.

American goods exported into mexico pay a tariff.

Mexican goods imported into the america pay NO tariff.

Trump is simply making things fair.

5218  Other / Off-topic / Re: WRITING MY OWN OBITUARY on: January 28, 2017, 02:52:31 AM
It's not the cancer that bothers me,I have went thru the the stages of denial to acceptance.It's the lowlife on here that would take advantage of my condition and steal from me and never bat an eyelid.How can they look at themselves in the mirror.

Maybe someday it will come back to them.

Something bad will happen and they will think to themselves: "I don't deserve this, I'm a good person".

Then maybe they'll remember you & realize they're not good.

And maybe they deserve it.

If by "us" you mean people who believe in that quackery, then you're right. Nobody will be surprised by your passing, and nothing of value will be lost.

OP, don't believe the snake-oil salesmen who tell you you've got "nothing to lose". That's a lie. Only your body is lost. You've still got your possessions and soul to lose. Don't destroy your family's inheritance by wasting money on this nonsense, and don't destroy your soul by giving these quacks more resources with which to kill someone else.

The number of cancer cases is always rising steadily. Even if we don't have it now, chances are high many of us will get it sooner or later.

If someone today used a computer made in the 1940's, people might call them a quack.

Chemo was developed in the 1940's.

If you wouldn't use a computer made in 1940, why would you use an obsolete, outdated and scammy cancer treatment like chemo?

This has nothing to do with money.

Its about people having the right to knowledge and facts, despite lies told by many in the medical industry and elsewhere.
5219  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MARS colonization or MINING in cosmos on: January 28, 2017, 02:26:50 AM
Colonizing mars would be a scientific mission.

Developing the technology necessary to visit and colonize mars would produce many scientific advancements which would benefit everyone.

Asteroid mining is a mission to use taxpayer revenues to explore profitability of mining asteroids for the private sector & has little to do with science.
5220  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the difference between clever and genius? on: January 28, 2017, 02:04:48 AM
Clever changes the way people live in very small ways.

Genius completely revolutionizes the way we do things.

IQ is neither clever nor genius. Its a measure of pattern matching and how well a person performs a collection of algorithms.

Cleverness and genius encompass areas other than simple algorithmic processing.
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