guess Obama failed then like usual

Characterizing certain uses of these services as abuse doesn't make sense.  Bad people use legitimate channels for their activities all the time.  That doesn't make the channels bad, nor does it mandate that they "police" things.

The point of BTC and these anonymized shipping services is to promote free commerce.  Period.  If you want policing, charge-backs etc, then buy things on Amazon with USD and ship via UPS.  Even better, use PayPal which restricts whole categories of otherwise legitimate goods from buyers and sellers.

Hi twgreens! I’d like to add you on Skype. Derek fountain
[11/9/2012 7:55:52 PM] Derek fountain: hey AnonX here from btc forum.. you still selling gdmp?
[11/9/2012 8:55:10 PM] twgreens: twgreens has shared contact details with Derek fountain.
[11/9/2012 8:55:30 PM] twgreens: yes sir.
[11/9/2012 8:55:45 PM] twgreens: What amount are you looking for?
[11/9/2012 9:00:32 PM] Derek fountain: i am looking for at least 400 ish i can take it in parts since i've seen your OP says you have various amounts
[11/9/2012 9:01:01 PM] twgreens: Awesome, let me see what I can do.
[11/9/2012 9:01:15 PM] twgreens: Do you have otc, or anything?
[11/9/2012 9:01:23 PM] Derek fountain: OTC
[11/9/2012 9:01:53 PM] Derek fountain: yes
[11/9/2012 9:01:54 PM] twgreens: cool, I'm willing to go first. can you pm me on forums.
[11/9/2012 9:01:56 PM] twgreens: and link otc
[11/9/2012 9:02:17 PM] Derek fountain: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=AnonX
[11/9/2012 9:02:24 PM] Derek fountain: ill pm you when i get home
[11/9/2012 9:03:24 PM] twgreens: Ok cool, I should be around, let me know when you're able to send coins.
[11/9/2012 9:03:48 PM] Derek fountain: okay
[11/9/2012 9:04:17 PM] Derek fountain: i can send coins anytime, its just i dont log in my acct from my laptop... i do it from my desktop since hhackers are out there
[11/9/2012 9:04:23 PM] Derek fountain: lol i know you understand
[11/9/2012 9:05:51 PM] twgreens: Are you going to cash these with paypal?
[11/9/2012 9:06:03 PM] Derek fountain: most likely, or just use prepaid card
[11/9/2012 9:06:27 PM] Derek fountain: sometimes paypal doesnt take them, so if it says i cant i will use card
[11/9/2012 9:06:32 PM] twgreens: Ok, tip, don't cash to fast. They will close your accounts if you cash 4 of them in 30 seconds.
[11/9/2012 9:06:40 PM] Derek fountain: of course
[11/9/2012 9:06:57 PM] Derek fountain: theres another guy on btc forum selling, but he has very bad service.
[11/9/2012 9:07:08 PM] Derek fountain: not into the scam or winlock thing either.
[11/9/2012 9:07:35 PM] twgreens: Awesome, so you're familiar with the gdmp works. I'll go ahead and send one to you for now this way we can get it rolling.
[11/9/2012 9:07:50 PM] Derek fountain: yeah pretty much
[11/9/2012 9:07:54 PM] Derek fountain: how much do you have?
[11/9/2012 9:08:12 PM] Derek fountain: and you are still doing 1=1 right?
[11/9/2012 9:08:16 PM] twgreens: yes
[11/9/2012 9:08:20 PM] twgreens: mtgox value
[11/9/2012 9:08:23 PM] Derek fountain: which is
[11/9/2012 9:08:24 PM] Derek fountain: ok
[11/9/2012 9:08:25 PM] Derek fountain: cool
[11/9/2012 9:08:29 PM] Derek fountain: good
[11/9/2012 9:08:34 PM] Derek fountain: how much do you have
[11/9/2012 9:09:11 PM] twgreens: I should be able to make your $400 quota
[11/9/2012 9:09:20 PM] twgreens: right now I have around 9 cards
[11/9/2012 9:09:33 PM] Derek fountain: okay i mean i can buy more but for right now thats all i need
[11/9/2012 9:09:41 PM] twgreens: yes you can
[11/9/2012 9:09:53 PM] twgreens: I have 10 cards I cash them with, but its only 21 a month per card
[11/9/2012 9:10:12 PM] Derek fountain: oh okay i do understand that
[11/9/2012 9:10:21 PM] Derek fountain: okay lets talk totals of btc
[11/9/2012 9:10:27 PM] Derek fountain: for the 400 gdmp
[11/9/2012 9:10:32 PM] Derek fountain: can you price it out for me?
[11/9/2012 9:11:10 PM] twgreens: I don't have a $400, but $400 total

$400 @ 10.9 = 36.69 btc
[11/9/2012 9:11:39 PM] Derek fountain: thats what i got from my total too
[11/9/2012 9:11:44 PM] Derek fountain: okay i'll buy then
[11/9/2012 9:11:56 PM] Derek fountain: just codes? any receipts?
[11/9/2012 9:12:12 PM] twgreens: They're 3rd party from customers, no reciepts.
[11/9/2012 9:12:53 PM] Derek fountain: okay
[11/9/2012 9:13:00 PM] Derek fountain: i mean if they chargeback i know its on my own
[11/9/2012 9:13:18 PM] twgreens: Well, technically they cant  but if they do let me know i'll refund it.
[11/9/2012 9:13:27 PM] Derek fountain: okay but shouldnt be a problem
[11/9/2012 9:13:36 PM] Derek fountain: with it
[11/9/2012 9:14:45 PM] twgreens: Right, I've never had a problem.
[11/9/2012 9:14:53 PM] Derek fountain: okayy then no problem then!
[11/9/2012 9:15:47 PM] Derek fountain: We can exchange, and i think there is one other member who wants to deal with you also, if mines go good
[11/9/2012 9:16:42 PM] twgreens: 6299-0757-8806-01 $117
1QJo3FKytPVdBjaNxXr3o4neWr3o8PAXEs
10.67 bitcoin
[11/9/2012 9:16:53 PM] Derek fountain: okay
[11/9/2012 9:16:57 PM] Derek fountain: you wnt to do one by one?
[11/9/2012 9:17:02 PM] Derek fountain: want*
[11/9/2012 9:17:20 PM] twgreens: for now id prefer since I'm going first,
[11/9/2012 9:17:25 PM] Derek fountain: no problem
[11/9/2012 9:18:17 PM] Derek fountain: okay just a sec
[11/9/2012 9:20:57 PM] Derek fountain: dude
[11/9/2012 9:21:05 PM] Derek fountain: its asking me for a refund??
what that means?
[11/9/2012 9:21:17 PM] twgreens: whats asking you for a refund?
[11/9/2012 9:21:52 PM] Derek fountain: greendot site
[11/9/2012 9:22:02 PM] Derek fountain: paypal wont take it so i went to green dots site
[11/9/2012 9:22:33 PM] Derek fountain: and it gaveme a page with a refund'
[11/9/2012 9:23:24 PM] twgreens: screenshot? never seen before?
[11/9/2012 9:23:28 PM] Derek fountain: sure just a sec
[11/9/2012 9:24:03 PM] *** Derek fountain sent IMG_09112012_212359.png ***
[11/9/2012 9:24:50 PM] Derek fountain: see it?
[11/9/2012 9:24:54 PM] Derek fountain: it took me to that
[11/9/2012 9:25:36 PM] twgreens: sorry have 900 things open still loading it lol
[11/9/2012 9:25:42 PM] Derek fountain: its okay
[11/9/2012 9:26:10 PM] Derek fountain: now it says this
[11/9/2012 9:26:12 PM] twgreens: uh, how did you enter the numbers lol?
[11/9/2012 9:26:15 PM] twgreens: ive never seen it say that
[11/9/2012 9:26:19 PM] *** Derek fountain sent IMG_09112012_212615.png ***
[11/9/2012 9:26:24 PM] Derek fountain: what is going on?
[11/9/2012 9:26:33 PM] Derek fountain: i entered them in like normal
[11/9/2012 9:26:38 PM] Derek fountain: like i always do
[11/9/2012 9:27:08 PM] Derek fountain: u did nt add it somewhere did you??
[11/9/2012 9:27:15 PM] twgreens: no
[11/9/2012 9:27:27 PM] Derek fountain: it gave me refund screen first
[11/9/2012 9:27:42 PM] Derek fountain: then when i tried to redeem it again it says it had a zero balance
[11/9/2012 9:27:59 PM] Derek fountain: might have been blocked but i can still pay u for it if need be
[11/9/2012 9:28:54 PM] Derek fountain: ?
[11/9/2012 9:31:14 PM] twgreens: sorry trying to see what is going on
[11/9/2012 9:31:19 PM] Derek fountain: oh okay i figured
[11/9/2012 9:31:34 PM] Derek fountain: it definitely didnt go on my card and i can show proof of that also
[11/9/2012 9:32:19 PM] twgreens: just a sec, i checked the balance before i sent so looking into it
[11/9/2012 9:32:25 PM] Derek fountain: thank you
[11/9/2012 9:32:38 PM] Derek fountain: u didnt accidentally use the balance did you?
[11/9/2012 9:33:22 PM] twgreens: no
[11/9/2012 9:33:48 PM] Derek fountain: yeah im on my card acct and its not there and i can screen cap that too if need be
[11/9/2012 9:34:57 PM] twgreens: I just called it said it was cashed. Lets wait a bit before we figure out what to do. I never had this problem before, and I've cashed a few thousand and sold a few dozen
[11/9/2012 9:35:11 PM] Derek fountain: if i accidentally got it blocked i can pay for it but i def didnt use it at all
[11/9/2012 9:35:54 PM] twgreens: Yeah just wait a bit, jumping from PP to a debit might have flagged maybe, but I don't want you to send funds just yet.
[11/9/2012 9:36:03 PM] Derek fountain: okay
[11/9/2012 9:36:15 PM] Derek fountain: do u want me to try another card smaller or just wait in total
[11/9/2012 9:36:37 PM] twgreens: 6539-9374-5021-04 $35 on this one.
[11/9/2012 9:37:37 PM] Derek fountain: illl try this one
[11/9/2012 9:38:27 PM] Derek fountain: okay this one was fine it worked.
[11/9/2012 9:38:37 PM] *** Derek fountain sent IMG_09112012_213833.png ***
[11/9/2012 9:39:15 PM] twgreens: Awesome, and I cant prove or not if you got the card blocked, it sucks to lose the $117, but I cant force you to pay for something you were not able to cash, so I guess thats your call.
[11/9/2012 9:39:56 PM] Derek fountain: well i understand how business is. and things like gdmp gets blocked sometimes.. the other guy i dealt with, one of his got blocked. idk why they do that but it does happen
[11/9/2012 9:40:05 PM] Derek fountain: its really ur call because i do understand
[11/9/2012 9:40:32 PM] Derek fountain: i want to check the rest before i pay so this doesnt happen again if you don't mind its up to ypu on that one
[11/9/2012 9:40:35 PM] Derek fountain: you*
[11/9/2012 9:41:05 PM] twgreens: What do you mean check the rest? www.betamerica.com has a gdmp checker.
[11/9/2012 9:41:10 PM] Derek fountain: yes
[11/9/2012 9:41:14 PM] Derek fountain: u use it?
[11/9/2012 9:41:16 PM] Derek fountain: be careful
[11/9/2012 9:41:25 PM] Derek fountain: u can always check by
[11/9/2012 9:41:29 PM] Derek fountain: going to green dot site
[11/9/2012 9:41:35 PM] Derek fountain: enter ur card number and dont redeem
[11/9/2012 9:41:38 PM] Derek fountain: also a great way
[11/9/2012 9:41:54 PM] Derek fountain: but if its valid that fine then the 35 one was valid
[11/9/2012 9:42:16 PM] twgreens: Well I know about the gd site, but I don't want them to flag my card number to that card, then another card cash it.
[11/9/2012 9:42:26 PM] Derek fountain: nah they dont
[11/9/2012 9:42:32 PM] Derek fountain: nnever happened to me
[11/9/2012 9:43:55 PM] twgreens: Ok well, as for the first card, its just bad business for the first trade to not go so well. So leave it at a loss for me, but if you want just send $50 for it if you're wanting to pay lol.
[11/9/2012 9:44:10 PM] Derek fountain: haha i understand
[11/9/2012 9:44:40 PM] twgreens: Just never had that issue, so I don't know how to handle it lol
[11/9/2012 9:45:18 PM] Derek fountain: right i understand
[11/9/2012 9:45:47 PM] Derek fountain: well after we deal we can figure out compensation for that
[11/9/2012 9:45:59 PM] Derek fountain: u want me to pa for the 35 or keep going with the dealing?
[11/9/2012 9:46:04 PM] Derek fountain: pay*
[11/9/2012 9:46:38 PM] twgreens: Pay please. just 3.5 is fine.
[11/9/2012 9:46:46 PM] Derek fountain: okay
[11/9/2012 9:46:52 PM] Derek fountain: give me address again
[11/9/2012 9:48:07 PM] twgreens: [Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 PM] twgreens:

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[11/9/2012 9:48:10 PM] Derek fountain: [Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 PM] twgreens:

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[11/9/2012 9:48:13 PM] Derek fountain: ok
[11/9/2012 9:48:16 PM] Derek fountain: hold on
[11/9/2012 9:49:36 PM] twgreens: ok, I have to go get my other half from work, I'll be back in a bit.
[11/9/2012 10:21:56 PM] twgreens: .hello
[4:58:16 PM] twgreens: Thanks for not logging back in, its not like my 2 year old needed to eat this week or anything.

Please explain or use [sarc] tags where applicable.

As a non-American who took a passing interest in the elections because of the hype, I had a look at 2 of the debates, and thought Romney to be generally more articulate, better prepared, more knowledgeable than Obama. As for Obama, I expected Gitmo to be closed by now, all troops removed from AfghanisNam, no threatening rhetoric or sanctions against Iran, no stealth war against Pakistan, and Bradley Manning to get away with a warning or a small fine.

But still... better the devil you know?

The first site I found was WeUseCoins actually. Then I found Mt. Gox, then Bitcoin.org. Then after that I found blockchain.info, and it was kind of dominoes from then on out. (Damn, now I want Pizza. Papa John's, Domino's sucks around me [Free pizza's will be graciously received])

They develop A Bitcoin client, not THE Bitcoin client.

I don't think it's very healthy for the decentralized, free, independent, and open reputation of Bitcoin to present Bitcoin-Qt as "THE" client (or even "the standard client"). The protocol is what's standard, not some particular client implementation (regardless if was the first around, or has the most users).

Also, bitcoin.org is just one of many random websites related to Bitcoin. Not "the official Bitcoin site".

BFL have them for sure, they used to have a farm before going into the production business, the guy up the road repairs Arcade machines and has the skills to build this stuff.  

It's called an exchange rate, if you are unhappy stop buying moneypaks and put your cash into another payment processor.

It means I don't want to buy your moneypak at 1:1. Bye.

Out of my price range.