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1261  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Submerge your rigs in liquid on: October 18, 2012, 11:45:32 AM
Yes, someone on here is running their rig in mineral oil and mining.  They made their own setup and it is working with I think five cards.  There are pics of it under the pic of my rig thread.  The only issue I can think of that would be a real pain is that the oil can get contaminated once things like dust and other forign items enter the mix.  The would then cause you to have to shutdown and drain, clean and reload as needed which could be a real pain.  I have thought about this and I would say that if your going to attempt it that you basically plan that the gear you put in will be tossed after two or three years if you get that far.  Otherwise it is really interesting idea for us heat and noise producers.

Before I posted this I was doing a bit of searching, and YT videos, the one said after 3 years, everything is still going well without switching oil, the only thing is the oil is a little darker.


Even if this did happen, I would think a siphon technique going into a filter, and just keep adding the clean oil back into the mix would take care of that. Possibly saving a few hundred a month on 10 minutes of work if needbe is a good trade.
1262  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Submerge your rigs in liquid on: October 18, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
It still gets hot... Think of it like a deep fryer, the heat you put in the oil doesn't magically vanish, you need to cool the oil. It may not be true with a low power computer but with a mining rig, cooling the oil would be needed.

Also consider that because of the oil everything in it will heat up to whatever temp it is at. Even things that are normally cool, like USB controllers, capacitors, etc which could cause problems if heated up too high.

There was a guy who did this however, I think it was in the "pics of your mining rigs" thread.

That's why you cool the oil, there are many different ways you can do it, and off the top of my head..

Hook a heatsink to frigerator coils.
Hook a heatsink that's buried into the ground.
Hook a heatsink thats connected to a pool.


Where I live, you dig 2 feet down and you're at water. A free source of heat dispersion.

You did not mention that in your first post, it looks like you assume the heat just goes away.
A big heat sink would work well but wouldn't it just be easier, cleaner and probably cheaper to water cool the GPUs?

Well I gave a suggestion, not the solution in the first post lol. Probably would not be cheaper to water cool, I'm not to familiar with watercooling, but looking online, each is $100+, if you need 25 of them, you're spending a lot of money.

You will still have to buy the mineral oil, but at a bulk purchase, you can get a lot of oil, relatively cheap, and you can put a bunch of rigs in 1 tank with oil.
1263  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Submerge your rigs in liquid on: October 18, 2012, 11:23:39 AM
It still gets hot... Think of it like a deep fryer, the heat you put in the oil doesn't magically vanish, you need to cool the oil. It may not be true with a low power computer but with a mining rig, cooling the oil would be needed.

Also consider that because of the oil everything in it will heat up to whatever temp it is at. Even things that are normally cool, like USB controllers, capacitors, etc which could cause problems if heated up too high.

There was a guy who did this however, I think it was in the "pics of your mining rigs" thread.

That's why you cool the oil, there are many different ways you can do it, and off the top of my head..

Hook a heatsink to frigerator coils.
Hook a heatsink that's buried into the ground.
Hook a heatsink thats connected to a pool.


Where I live, you dig 2 feet down and you're at water. A free source of heat dispersion.
1264  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Submerge your rigs in liquid on: October 18, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
It's probably fine except when you want to work with the hardware i.e. adding/replacing boards etc.
Everything will be slick with mineral oil which sounds yucky.

I've seen people on here who have 10-20+ rigs, all maxed already, so adding wont be an issue, and replacing wont either, as no dust gets to your components. I've been seeing online 3+ years with 0 problems.


The energy cost savings alone would make it worth while of having a sticky part if you needed to access it. You could get creative of ways to make eco-heatsinks to zero your heat energy bill.
1265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Iran can't print paper, guy tells them to use BitCoin on: October 18, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
To bad they cant download the software easily.

Solution


Nice solution, then the SS will show up at your door, and arrest you, hold you for months until they discover the coins you sent are not being used to support their nuclear plant.
1266  Bitcoin / Mining support / Submerge your rigs in liquid on: October 18, 2012, 10:30:10 AM
Has anyone tried this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuNkB_8fJeY&feature=related

I would have to assume it would save power not having to run fans, + air conditioner to cool down rooms.
1267  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] FastCash4Bitcoins 100,000th Bitcoin Promotion on: October 18, 2012, 09:45:26 AM
5. How to Enter

Does this mean previous orders to this posting?

No.  We have been advised that including entries prior to the announcement of the contest would not make this a lawful Contest in the United States.

Quote
The Contest begins on 10/17/2012 at 23:59:59 and ends once cumulative sales totaling one hundred thousand bitcoins (100,000 BTC) have been properly funded and confirmed on the FastCash4Bitcoin website (http://fastcash4bitcoins.com).


Awesome, this is a great thing you're offering. Hopefully I can get some more coins, and enter Smiley
1268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Most Bitcoins generated are immobile on: October 18, 2012, 09:40:18 AM
That's the most rational way to use them: I learned that at my expense.
Just because 90%+ of "investing" opportunities are scams or losing propositions, and anything on sale for BTC is overpriced.
It's just due to the black market that a BTC economy exists at all.

Uh, you're wrong on that. I'm new to bitcoins, and I can see an outside perspective on why the BTC economy is still here.

And that reason is...

Faith

Faith that prices will go up and not down
Faith that people will keep going
Faith that they will get rich because more and more people pick it up


Things are not that overpriced, they're a bit more expensive, but the loops to convert back to usd is a killer. Worse than PP fees, lol..
1269  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] FastCash4Bitcoins 100,000th Bitcoin Promotion on: October 18, 2012, 08:59:29 AM
5. How to Enter

Does this mean previous orders to this posting?
1270  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 18, 2012, 08:55:06 AM
They want your zip code, not the zip where it was bought.
1271  Economy / Lending / Re: LOAN 1BTC TO SHOW YOU CAN TRUST AN ANONYMOUS PERSON! on: October 17, 2012, 09:15:12 PM
FYI, most people look at post count. 1700 posts is not anonymous to most people, most people see 1700 and say "Hey I bet I can trust that guy!"...

click my name...well he's only been online since june this year...

haha Smiley

Either way, no one looks at that. I bet even lower numbers people trust, 200-300 etc.
1272  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: CRYPTOXCHANGE ARE CROOKS, WITHDRAW YOUR MONEY NOW on: October 17, 2012, 09:11:26 PM
Crypt_Current

I'm really sorry to hear about your situation but you need to take responsibility for your actions.  CryptoxChange did not come to your house and deposit your rent money for you.  You chose to do that.  It's an unfortunate situation but as with any investment or speculation you should only be putting at risk money that you can afford to lose. 

As events went down the way stated:

So you're putting him to blame for depositing money, into a network that's proven successful, and now that its been seized its his fault? You my friend have some thinking flaws.
1273  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 17, 2012, 09:06:35 PM
I don't ask for the receipt, nor a picture of the card. Sorry it would be to much of a burden for my customers to upload that, especially since some of these cards are 3+ weeks old, I doubt they even have it.
1274  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 17, 2012, 08:23:30 PM
I've done a few trades with one member, went smooth, lets see if he will post.
1275  Other / Off-topic / Re: why not pump and dump those jerks? on: October 16, 2012, 04:00:28 PM
Why do people care what the BTC are used for.. Seriously? I read SR is doing 1.4m in transactions or something monthly. Do you want BTC to stay afloat? Yeah screw the 2m monthly trades of BTC, and drop the price of your BTC.
1276  Economy / Securities / Re: Possible sale of LTC-GLOBAL site code to someone who wants to run a BTC exchange on: October 16, 2012, 03:57:24 PM


(And don't bounty hunters just go kidnap people instead of extradition being used in those no extradition places? Since U.S. courts do not care whether kidnapping was used to cause the accused to appear in court?)

-MarkM-


Dog the bounty hunger went to jail for hopping over to Mexico to grab someone. So no.
1277  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Trading Greendot Moneypaks for BTC on: October 16, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
upup
1278  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Exchange | Sell | Buy Bitcoin, Liberty Reserve, OKpay, WMZ, PM with WU, MG, Bank on: October 16, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
http://www.wmxchange.net/sell-e-currency.php

The form isn't showing up on firefox. It shows up on IE
1279  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: FastCash4Bitcoins Support Thread (over 80,000 bitcoins purchased) on: October 15, 2012, 11:39:13 PM
Hi, all your funding options say zero funds.

Funds available now.

Awesome, giving a test run!  order # 14238

Thank you!
1280  Economy / Lending / Re: LOAN 1BTC TO SHOW YOU CAN TRUST AN ANONYMOUS PERSON! on: October 15, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
FYI, most people look at post count. 1700 posts is not anonymous to most people, most people see 1700 and say "Hey I bet I can trust that guy!"...
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