When the KMD dev sees a flaw in our code and chooses to exploit it, it's a problem. Do you think we intended for Komodo genesis notaries to be able to mine free coins? Was that our mistake, hell yes it was and it was a damn bad one because it turns out the KMD devs are not to be trusted.
Why do you so sure that was KMD dev team members mined your coin? Believe me, i wish your project only bright future and if you will implement in it something new and useful to the community, for example, new tech or another interest solution - it will be great. But, unfortunatelly, currently SAFE coin looks like scam. Why i think so? Let's look: 1. If it was serious long time project - devs never release this code with KMD notaries public keys inside. Have you heard anything about the stages of the software development life cycle? Before release every software should going through many checks, tests and this is months of hard work. 2. Unfortunatelly, we don't see any work here. SAFE coin devs just forked (i wish to call it "copy & paste", like in middle school) KMD sources, changed KMD strings on SAFE and tried to introduce it as new project. Do you think it's seriously? Will you deny that no one of devs has even tried to understand the essence of how this works? From side look like "devs" of SAFE don't tried to clarify for itselfs too much moments inside a code. Otherwise, they would have created their own notary. 3. Ok. Let's explain that SAFE is not one-day project, not scam ... what we have? Only copy & pasted sources and few screenshots in SAFE thread, which can be drawn in maximum per hour. Whitepaper? No. Official site - doesn't work. Explorer? Haven't. What SAFE have you may asked? Only topic on this forum with a few screenshots, copy & pasted code, and ambitious statements and charges. Nothing more (currently). p.s. About mining. Everybody could start safe coin daemon with one of notaries public key and mine SAFE. Also, everybody could start mining with all notaries_elected pubkeys. Why? For example, to show people this project is not serious, even if its developers do not understand how it works. Of course, if somebody mined SAFE with komodo's notaries pubkeys - he can't spent it without privkeys, but in order to show the incompetence of developers - this is enough. 1. Notaries were planned for a later stage, and yes the harmfulness of leaving those in the code, was overseen and your dev gladly used this error to snatch some coins - however he screwed that up and for the SAFE community it looked like a deliberate attack first (until clarification that is was meant to be 'only' a little coin grabbing activity) 2. SAFE is about 2 month old, how much new feastures do you expect in that short time frame from a small group of part-time devs? Please be realistic 3. There is a website (safecoin.org) , please check it out, there were two block explorers (before the fork) and overall the community was quite happy with the progress until your Dev fucked it all up during his lil' raid. Safecoin is a scam coin. Created only for pump and dump. What kind of delusional brain deaded people blame others for their own mistake. What kind of idiot copy and paste source code and release without checking? Safecoin says it's dPOW, where is the proof? Just go away you mean ill-minded trolls. So, how they scammed anyone? There was not even one offer to buy or sell coins. Please inform yourself before making any accusations. Thanks. They are frauds, if they dont have notaries and are not notarizing yet claim to be using DPoW Actually who gives a Sh.. about this dPoW stuff for a coin that is not even listed on any market? Maybe our dev thought it KMD is a well advanced tech and did not expect this to be buggy as fuck. Thas was his mistake in the first please, but does not shed a good light to KMD as well. The code isnt buggy, your devs didnt implement it correctly. DPoW is actually a service, and you say that you are providing it but you are not. That is fraud. |
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When the KMD dev sees a flaw in our code and chooses to exploit it, it's a problem. Do you think we intended for Komodo genesis notaries to be able to mine free coins? Was that our mistake, hell yes it was and it was a damn bad one because it turns out the KMD devs are not to be trusted.
Why do you so sure that was KMD dev team members mined your coin? Believe me, i wish your project only bright future and if you will implement in it something new and useful to the community, for example, new tech or another interest solution - it will be great. But, unfortunatelly, currently SAFE coin looks like scam. Why i think so? Let's look: 1. If it was serious long time project - devs never release this code with KMD notaries public keys inside. Have you heard anything about the stages of the software development life cycle? Before release every software should going through many checks, tests and this is months of hard work. 2. Unfortunatelly, we don't see any work here. SAFE coin devs just forked (i wish to call it "copy & paste", like in middle school) KMD sources, changed KMD strings on SAFE and tried to introduce it as new project. Do you think it's seriously? Will you deny that no one of devs has even tried to understand the essence of how this works? From side look like "devs" of SAFE don't tried to clarify for itselfs too much moments inside a code. Otherwise, they would have created their own notary. 3. Ok. Let's explain that SAFE is not one-day project, not scam ... what we have? Only copy & pasted sources and few screenshots in SAFE thread, which can be drawn in maximum per hour. Whitepaper? No. Official site - doesn't work. Explorer? Haven't. What SAFE have you may asked? Only topic on this forum with a few screenshots, copy & pasted code, and ambitious statements and charges. Nothing more (currently). p.s. About mining. Everybody could start safe coin daemon with one of notaries public key and mine SAFE. Also, everybody could start mining with all notaries_elected pubkeys. Why? For example, to show people this project is not serious, even if its developers do not understand how it works. Of course, if somebody mined SAFE with komodo's notaries pubkeys - he can't spent it without privkeys, but in order to show the incompetence of developers - this is enough. 1. Notaries were planned for a later stage, and yes the harmfulness of leaving those in the code, was overseen and your dev gladly used this error to snatch some coins - however he screwed that up and for the SAFE community it looked like a deliberate attack first (until clarification that is was meant to be 'only' a little coin grabbing activity) 2. SAFE is about 2 month old, how much new feastures do you expect in that short time frame from a small group of part-time devs? Please be realistic 3. There is a website (safecoin.org) , please check it out, there were two block explorers (before the fork) and overall the community was quite happy with the progress until your Dev fucked it all up during his lil' raid. Safecoin is a scam coin. Created only for pump and dump. What kind of delusional brain deaded people blame others for their own mistake. What kind of idiot copy and paste source code and release without checking? Safecoin says it's dPOW, where is the proof? Just go away you mean ill-minded trolls. So, how they scammed anyone? There was not even one offer to buy or sell coins. Please inform yourself before making any accusations. Thanks. They are frauds, if they dont have notaries and are not notarizing yet claim to be using DPoW |
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Safecoin is not a fork of Komode. It's a clone of Komodo and removed some of their features. Is there a whitepaper I can look it to see what make safecoin different from KMD?
They have a nice 4 million (of 36 million total) premine and frontloaded lots of coins with 128 coins per minute block rewards. They also will rollback the chain if you mine coins in a way they dont like. I guess you need to be part of some inner circle in order to get low cost coins. I would have donated the coins if they just asked for them, but instead they go on a rampage against me. for less than $1000 worth of coins no matter how you count it. SAFE will centrally rollback to steal 60,000 coins if the wrong person (like the creator of the original they cloned) gets them. So, I dont feel much problems with announcing that the new update is indeed still vulnerable to attack vectors. I dont like when banks just freeze your account and you cant get your own money. This is the same thing. my coins are being stolen, that doesnt make me happy. To all the miners who mined after 57980 and are also having your coins stolen, I guess you are ok with that? Or maybe nobody is really mining this other than insiders. Anyway the original chain is still alive and maybe we can keep it alive. "difficulty": 137847.9401183311, Don't worry. We left a few blocks in for posterity's sake. You can have those. Please fork us to Safecoin Classic lmao you already forgot you are the first to fork, to rollback SAFE the original chain is not forked We are the real chain. We were forced into drastic measures by your scheming and incompetence. Call it what you will. You are delusional, your own incompetence led you to this. |
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...All coins go through a development phase where certain features are not yet activated...
The larger problem is that you still don't understand your own issues. It was activated and you don't like that you activated it. I have a word for you that, perhaps, you should goggle and would solve many of your problems: testnetHere's one that would be even better: ETHICAL KMD DEVSSad part is we would have loved to work with KMD on testnet. Even James acknowledged the benefit to KMD of having a full fork to test KMD only features with on testnet. He's blown that now as I don't see how we can trust him again in any way. All for a few coins he calls worthless. Nice job. You have no grounds to talk about ethics. You claim to be doing delayed proof of work, yet have no notaries or btc funds to do such. |
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Sure, we admit we like free coins. who doesnt. Isnt that why you made a 4 million premine? and stealth mining 6 million more.
If liking free/cheap coins is a crime, we are all criminals.
There is no mess, the network diff is where it was before the other day, GPU miners are getting blocks. Though I guess having someone outside the inner circle having coins is messing up your pump and dump plans? Now I understand why the reaction to the $1000 in lost mining is provoking such a loud reaction. This really does mess up your pump and dump plan, doesnt it?
I think having some external party with enough coins to prevent a pump and dump scheme is not such a bad idea and I am proud to do so.
Is this who you want leading your team KMD investors?
Yes, I want jl777, one of the most talented and proven developers in crypto, leading the Komodo project. |
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Hello, I am Polycryptoblog, I am a Komodo Team Member, Admin at Crypto Warriors and candidate in the 2018 Notary Node Elections. I am currently a Notary Node Operator for the North America quadrant and am looking to seek election in the Southern Hemisphere and Asia/Russia quadrants to further real world integration and developments in Komodo ecosystem. As a notary node operator I have used funds derived from Notary mining to pay for: Komodo Integration with Coinpayments.net - allowing merchants to accept Komodo in their stores. Conference Materials for the Bitcoin SuperConference in Texas as well as some materials for a conference in Barcelona Have a Komodo History Book written: https://www.amazon.com/Komodo-Fuel-SuperNET-C…/…/ref=sr_1_1… Advertising Bounties. Additionally I have pledged to use the remaining notary node funds to set up masternodes to help fund BarterDEX liquidity, after the election has concluded, in lieu of running a Komodo sweepstakes website. However, not being one to leave a good idea unfinished this year I would like to work with the CryptoWarriors group in getting a official legal giveaway/sweepstakes site up and running to further acquaint newcomers into crypto. 2018 Notary Node Election Proposal: If I were to win additional notary node spots I propose to use the income for: Helping CryptoWarriors get their coin established and integrated into Agama wallet and sweepstakes site running Creating a business in the Komodo ecosystem that helps bridge the gap between the digital and real world. Creating generators of liquidity for BarterDEX Advertising and Bounties. Snapshot has been taken and votes will distributed in the next few days. To Vote for polycryptoblog in the 2018 Notary Node election, send your votes : T-address: Southern Hemisphere RVT59tWiDcoictAidpoPKbSGw9j2XSiEhN Z:address: Southern Hemisphere zcbPXi9beLZxrBttAnZL2VYUQaM66fH3rsubLLoEgyUpHM4YHtTckG5W3WU5SVHNv3mLMi5shbsJzQH 68ByVsZKUMUxFZKq T-address: Asia RQraGEYih94XREUZyvLGmxw1J7dwaNsd8D Z-address: Asia zcZcu6aPvVijn84s45Gp38rBWvi6eecoNyJjQt1tVLC3ENJgSJ1US5WzViywubMX4hEzFunC4wYr2Te WZMF3Gz796FY1Xs3 |
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Is this project still alive? Zero movement of price since the last few months.
At beginning: sorry for my english. Good question, I hold my KMDs half year but now I want to sell this shitcoin. I was all in, around 8k KMD coins on bittrex. People here exciting so much bcuz "KMD GROW IS GOOD/YEAR" - no, its not, price just follow BTC. Check other "SHITCOINS" and u will see same % of growth/year as KMD. They are doing "DOING" much work like they say in this project, they bla bla atomic swaps and many more but they forgot about PPL. Nobody using KMD, many ppl needs it maybe, admins dont care about adverts, they are living in this project by themselves, some friends around and little ppl from tweet/fb/this forum. I can make 10 tons of GOLDEN shit in my garden at home, but who cares? Whats the point? Is it good? Its nice? Who cares if nobody comes to my garden? This is KOMODO. I dont want tell u that price will never moon, maybe it cauld, maybe not. Time for QQ defenders who will say: THEY ARE DOING GOOD THEY WORKING HARD WE DID BLA BLA ATOMIC SWAP WE HAVE MORE PPL !!! WE BLA BLA, YOU KNOW NOTHING * Price is moving bcuz of btc, they did milion things 2017 and it was maybe 20 % of price influence. Bye KOMODO team, I hope you will atomic swap your ass with mouth. Price went from .12 cents to 4.25 in a year thats a 35.4x gain 100x if you sold when btc mooned. BTC 1 year ago was 1100 and peaked at 18k now is at 9k. so 9x now 17x if you sold at peak. Quit talking out of your ass. |
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I am one of the notaries who pays to have his node maintained. My rationale behind this is, my service provider has much more experience in network adminstration and infosec than i do and has demonstrated that he can keep up with updates, notarizations and respond in an attack scenario, which he did during the coin creation attack early in komodo's history. The Notary Node funds that have been produced by my node have been used for many different Komodo related things including: -Coinpayments.net integration -Having a Komodo Book written for us: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Komodo-Fuel-SuperNET-Concise-History/dp/1981831452-Conference materials -Advertising -Giveaways Additionally, due to my inability to get a sweepstakes website up and running ( legal issues not technical ), I am planning to use the remaining funds of the notary year to establish masternodes in various BarterDEX enabled coins, the proceeds of which will be sold at discount on BarterDEX to encourage use of our DEX to many communities. I wanted to point this out, as there is there are misconceptions about some of us notaries that aren't tech gurus, that we just leech the funds for solely personal profit. It's good that your using some of your notary profit to help komodo, but I think there are many guys with no tech skills who would like to take your place, I'm one of them! 1500 KMD @ 3.90 = 5850 USD at todays prices, and this is AFTER recent crash .... and another guy does the work. Even if you paid that guy 2K USD a month, you're making ~1000 USD a week - who reading wouldn't want this deal? No risk, no stake, no (compulsory) work. Don't misunderstand me, I'm jealous as hell, and think guys like you have a target on your back in this election ... I want what you have bro  Fortunately I was in the top half of notaries this cycle, so my single node is safe for another year. Erroneous to assume that I havent taken risk or have stake. I do have significant stake in KMD , and take the same risk with my votes as everyone else does. I follow the notarynode channel and participate in the discussions on scaling komodo, and was a testnet operator and do know how to keep my node updated ( Just not that proficient ). Having someone more experienced manage my node, doesn't mean that I can slack on knowing what is going on. From my perspective, a few veteran network admins / cybersecurity experts can maintain all the notary nodes if necessary. Having a decent variety of node operators distributed across the world, with unique perspectives and skillsets is necessary, however its easier ensure that all the nodes are updated and maintained when you have to wrangle up a number of operators that is less than the maximum. A happy middle I think can be obtained, if it appears to be too centralized for peoples taste then they will vote for unique operators. The issue with security that concerns me is from political bickerings rather than on the tech side. Currently this is not an issue with Komodo, but as we have seen in other coins ( Bitcoin/Ethereum) politics can make even simple solutions arduous tasks. @BigNaturals Good Luck next election if you decide to run! |
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...All 64 notary nodes combined are less than 15% of the coin production...
The whitepaper seems to disagree: ...Since the rest of the miners have an adjustable difficulty ratio, it does not matter how many more miners attempt to mine Komodo. Most of the valid blocks will always be found by the sixty-four democratically elected notary nodes... You seem to forget that most of the coin generation is done through the 5% APR and not mining. Mining Rewards per Year = 3x1440x365 = 1576800 coins Estimated APR Rewards = 5 million. So a little under 6.6 million coins produced a year. Notary Node Approximate Year Income = 15000 KMD (15000x64)/6600000 = 14.5 % |
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...If a notary receives roughly 1500 KMD per month, then 80-90% of that for running a complicated masternode without needing any skin in the game is a pretty good deal imo... Skin can be measured in many ways. The long and short of what I'm getting out of the last couple of pages is that instead of reinvesting my KMD into buying $35,000 worth of GPUs and hardware to mine KMD, I should have been saving my hard earned KMD and concentrated on buying votes.  It is doubtful any small scale vote buying will have much success and for this year the only vote buying is by buying KMD That $35,000 USD is considered "small scale" just kinda brings us back full circle to what I said before: So, in short, the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor.
Of the approximately 6.7 million Komodo created a year, you are complaining about a notary which makes like 15k KMD a year before expenses. That is 0.2% of the coin generation. Even if a notary controlled 4 nodes, it is still less than 1% of coin production in a year. All 64 notary nodes combined are less than 15% of the coin production. Thats not a monopoly. I am one of the notaries who pays to have his node maintained. My rationale behind this is, my service provider has much more experience in network adminstration and infosec than i do and has demonstrated that he can keep up with updates, notarizations and respond in an attack scenario, which he did during the coin creation attack early in komodo's history. The Notary Node funds that have been produced by my node have been used for many different Komodo related things including: -Coinpayments.net integration -Having a Komodo Book written for us: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Komodo-Fuel-SuperNET-Concise-History/dp/1981831452-Conference materials -Advertising -Giveaways Additionally, due to my inability to get a sweepstakes website up and running ( legal issues not technical ), I am planning to use the remaining funds of the notary year to establish masternodes in various BarterDEX enabled coins, the proceeds of which will be sold at discount on BarterDEX to encourage use of our DEX to many communities. I wanted to point this out, as there is there are misconceptions about some of us notaries that aren't tech gurus, that we just leech the funds for solely personal profit. |
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Any chance FIBRE bag holders might receive an “immaculate merge fork” assetchain airdrop one day like HUSH? Such a shame FIBRE died, could have gone full zombie blockchain and lived on  That would actually be a good application for hush's new utxo lodger development. goto btch channel and ask! |
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Hi..I have over 400 Bridge coins and my wallet isn't syncing for i don't know how long. Can anybody tell me how to fix this? Or at least put some Addnode so i can start the syncing so i can stake. Thank you
The Devs are maintaining the blockchain however it may be tough to synch up depending how long you have to go. Anyone have a bootstrap of the latest Chain for him? Leave it open let it catch what it can when it can. then move to DEX and you wont have a problem. It is just not moving and i have had my computer on for days on end now. I tried installing the new client from the site and get my wallet.dat file and put it in there, but nothing happens. Maybe i have a really old wallet? or maybe someone could add some addnode..........add files/nodes. Thanks for all the help. i really feel like i am missing out on staking rewards It's syncing fine, have 5 peers... and just did some transfers. 104.237.2.189:6333 178.63.104.7:6333 45.79.151.135:6333 95.85.50.70:6333 176.9.24.230:6333 The explorer says 1.5 Mh... Which is like a $50 scrypt gridseed mini pushing the chain... if that is correct = zero security. As discussed numerous times the BCO blockchain served its purpose of distributing BCO fairly via public minning from July - December 2017. This has nothing to do with security, good fud effort however. It is only maintained to allow anyone that might need to transfer BCO to the DEX to do so and nothing else. So what is preventing an attacker from creating mischievious forks? The purpose of having a high hashrate is so that an attacker cant just come on the chain and approve transactions that arent valid, or changes to how the blockchain operates. There are mitigating solutions for this like DPoW, but you still need a decent bit of hashrate. I have just stumbled on this coin today as I saw that it was listed in our BarterDEX, I am just curious about it because that hashrate is rather low for a PoW coin as pointed out. This guy does not leave the BridgeCoin thread, it's amazing that they still debate with it! He wants attention and most likely get BCO at cheap prices because he knows he will hardly have a great opportunity, well he is doing his part. I think you have confused me with someone else. I have done some more looking in depth into the project and saw that it is a PoS coin. Which explains the "low" hashrate. I like the idea of it, decoupling rewards from the platform that the exchange is running on. So its a Bitshares proxy token exchange that rewards staking users with a portion of the transaction fees. |
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Hi..I have over 400 Bridge coins and my wallet isn't syncing for i don't know how long. Can anybody tell me how to fix this? Or at least put some Addnode so i can start the syncing so i can stake. Thank you
The Devs are maintaining the blockchain however it may be tough to synch up depending how long you have to go. Anyone have a bootstrap of the latest Chain for him? Leave it open let it catch what it can when it can. then move to DEX and you wont have a problem. It is just not moving and i have had my computer on for days on end now. I tried installing the new client from the site and get my wallet.dat file and put it in there, but nothing happens. Maybe i have a really old wallet? or maybe someone could add some addnode..........add files/nodes. Thanks for all the help. i really feel like i am missing out on staking rewards It's syncing fine, have 5 peers... and just did some transfers. 104.237.2.189:6333 178.63.104.7:6333 45.79.151.135:6333 95.85.50.70:6333 176.9.24.230:6333 The explorer says 1.5 Mh... Which is like a $50 scrypt gridseed mini pushing the chain... if that is correct = zero security. As discussed numerous times the BCO blockchain served its purpose of distributing BCO fairly via public minning from July - December 2017. This has nothing to do with security, good fud effort however. It is only maintained to allow anyone that might need to transfer BCO to the DEX to do so and nothing else. So what is preventing an attacker from creating mischievious forks? The purpose of having a high hashrate is so that an attacker cant just come on the chain and approve transactions that arent valid, or changes to how the blockchain operates. There are mitigating solutions for this like DPoW, but you still need a decent bit of hashrate. I have just stumbled on this coin today as I saw that it was listed in our BarterDEX, I am just curious about it because that hashrate is rather low for a PoW coin as pointed out. |
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I deposited some BTC to BarterDex....later found out the tx fees were to high....so now I'm trying to withdraw but it doesn't seem like BarterDex is doing anything. Anyone else see this issue?
If it is a problem load up Agama, and BTC SPV wallet, with the same passphrase as you used in barterdex. |
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Given the fact that the BTCD blockchain seems stuck, it appears to me that the only solution is to sell your BTCD (, transfer your BTC to an exchange that's trading KMD if necessary) and buy KMD. There might be a slight loss (or gain) if the prices of BTCD and KMD do not match the current conversion rate (which I don't know) or if KMD shoots up (or down) between the time you sell BTCD and the time you buy KMD. Or you can just wait til it is unstuck and swaps are enabled again. |
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Hoping that someone can help clarify here regarding JUMBLR drop (and maybe others?)
Are there any directions or a guide on how to claim JUMBLR (and maybe CRYPTO or REVS)?
I participated in the KMD ico and have my KMD in the swing wallet. How do I claim these other assets I may be eligible for?
Or am I misunderstanding how it works?
If you had any assets to claim just login to the assetchains wallet ( activate coin button on top right corner of Agama) In SPV mode using same passphrase as Komodo wallet |
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jl777B,
Is it possible to connect BarterDEX API into CMC?
It would add to brand recognition and might spur interest from those looking to trade without KYC, IMO.
BTW, is BarterDEX a trustless setup?
Depends on the context of trustless . The BarterDEX protocol itself is trustless in the sense there is no middleman between traders such as a central exchange or central blockchain. However it is possible for a side to back out of a trade. They are greatly discouraged from doing so through deposit, which is awarded to the injured party when in the rare circumstance a trade would go awry. It would be a Pyrrhic victory for the backing out party. Yes they could thwart your trade, but it would cost them well beyond any gain they would have and you would come out with even more coin. This is just my understanding of the system. |
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What brings income for investors in this coin? I don't see there are no POS or Masternode. For example, one DMD Masternode, I have a daily income of $ 100. What can you offer here?
Now I see only speculative interest and earnings on the pump and dump.
At the moment, only 2 cryptos are accepted by merchants around the world. BTC and MONA. So the interest in the coin is legitimate and it's no P&D at all. That is such a load of crap. |
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What do you think is holding KMD back from having as big of a market cap as other similar projects like NEO and EOS?
IMHO all this wallet BS is the main thing.......this project launched on 01/09/2016......461 days and virtually every page on this thread has people struggling with wallets. Cheers Jon  Agreed. Ive been sitting on 600 KMD's' which I cannot open in any wallet, which means Ive been missing out on rewards for 4 months now. Pathetic that I can't use swing or agama. Have you tried the newest version, SPV mode works very well. artifacts.supernet.org/latest So after trying the newest version over and over again I've finally been able to open Agama in "Lite" mode. Can I still earn interest in Lite mode? Of course, no need to sync the blockchain to earn 5%APR. Just Remember the rules for earning reward are: 1) UTXO older than 1 hour 2) UTXO must be larger than 10 3) Locktime must be set ( you can check this on an explorer, you shouldnt have any issue using lite mode ) Best way to redeem interest is to send your entire balance to yourself, that way you spend all the UTXO's and redeem their interest. Just make sure the Sender and Receiver Addresses are the same. |
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What do you think is holding KMD back from having as big of a market cap as other similar projects like NEO and EOS?
IMHO all this wallet BS is the main thing.......this project launched on 01/09/2016......461 days and virtually every page on this thread has people struggling with wallets. Cheers Jon Agreed. Ive been sitting on 600 KMD's' which I cannot open in any wallet, which means Ive been missing out on rewards for 4 months now. Pathetic that I can't use swing or agama. Have you tried the newest version, SPV mode works very well. artifacts.supernet.org/latest Mine doesn't only displays white splash screen when starting . I have brought this up before but nobody has yet to give me some solutions. So I just stick with swing wallet anyway to collect my interest. Well before upgrading agama was working but now it is just a blank page upon running on MAC with 32-bit processor. 32bit is the problem, need 64bit |
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